1 00:00:00,666 --> 00:00:03,546 >> Hi, I'm Dr. Mike Evans and I think quitting smoking is a journey. 2 00:00:04,106 --> 00:00:06,736 For some, it's a short journey full of resilience. 3 00:00:06,736 --> 00:00:11,116 But I think for most it's a long journey, a long affair, if you will, of quitting and relapse. 4 00:00:11,636 --> 00:00:14,856 A complicated relationship that can have as much to do with a person's relationship 5 00:00:14,856 --> 00:00:16,476 with themselves, as with the cigarettes. 6 00:00:17,386 --> 00:00:21,276 What starts as a pleasant sensation, an opportunity to rebel or even to belong, 7 00:00:21,966 --> 00:00:24,266 is replaced by less pleasure and a feeling of being trapped. 8 00:00:24,876 --> 00:00:29,016 A daily or hourly ride of nicotine withdrawal and then another cigarette, which brings relief. 9 00:00:29,806 --> 00:00:33,356 Most teens who smoke, think they will in their twenties and actually don't until their forties. 10 00:00:34,266 --> 00:00:38,516 Stopping smoking is about making a change and that is something we're not too good at. 11 00:00:38,516 --> 00:00:40,506 When I think of change, I think of two concepts. 12 00:00:40,626 --> 00:00:43,706 Where you are at and the mechanics of how we change. 13 00:00:44,296 --> 00:00:46,106 So, we should start where you are at. 14 00:00:46,306 --> 00:00:49,656 When I started medical school, I thought I could take somebody who smoked and convert them 15 00:00:49,656 --> 00:00:51,386 into a non-smoker in one fell swoop. 16 00:00:51,836 --> 00:00:52,886 Now I see it differently. 17 00:00:53,096 --> 00:00:55,226 I focus on where the person is at. 18 00:00:55,346 --> 00:00:57,246 You may be in what we call pre-contemplation, 19 00:00:57,846 --> 00:01:00,366 where you're not really even thinking about change. 20 00:01:00,876 --> 00:01:03,166 Approximately 75% of smokers want to quit. 21 00:01:03,586 --> 00:01:05,346 But 25% are not interested. 22 00:01:06,126 --> 00:01:09,336 Maybe you're at the contemplation stage, thinking about it, but not quite ready to act. 23 00:01:10,096 --> 00:01:11,216 Next is preparation. 24 00:01:11,686 --> 00:01:16,006 This is critical with smoking, especially in the likely event that you've tried to quit before. 25 00:01:16,146 --> 00:01:17,866 What has worked in the past and what hasn't? 26 00:01:17,976 --> 00:01:19,116 What caused the relapse? 27 00:01:19,746 --> 00:01:21,146 Maybe you're at the action stage. 28 00:01:21,686 --> 00:01:23,416 This is when you're ready to make your move. 29 00:01:24,346 --> 00:01:25,626 There's never a perfect time to quit. 30 00:01:25,626 --> 00:01:27,086 And at one point you just have to jump. 31 00:01:27,316 --> 00:01:29,906 I'll tell my patients, "Hey, it's going to be a challenge now 32 00:01:29,906 --> 00:01:31,336 and it's going to be a challenge in five years. 33 00:01:31,336 --> 00:01:32,326 So, why not do it now?" 34 00:01:32,566 --> 00:01:34,736 And then finally, there's the maintenance stage, 35 00:01:34,736 --> 00:01:37,176 where you become a non-smoker and are trying to stay that way. 36 00:01:38,526 --> 00:01:41,016 [cheers]. When we make changes it's critical to stop and think, 37 00:01:41,126 --> 00:01:42,716 how important is this change to me? 38 00:01:42,716 --> 00:01:45,216 And how confident am I in making this change? 39 00:01:45,596 --> 00:01:47,186 What we call your self-efficacy. 40 00:01:47,606 --> 00:01:48,716 Your job is to be honest. 41 00:01:48,716 --> 00:01:51,236 My job is to see if I can move your score towards ten. 42 00:01:53,876 --> 00:01:56,466 The second concept is about the different parts of change. 43 00:01:56,466 --> 00:01:58,076 So, there's the what. 44 00:01:58,576 --> 00:01:59,306 What are we changing? 45 00:01:59,506 --> 00:02:01,846 With smoking, I suppose it is straight forward, stopping. 46 00:02:02,586 --> 00:02:04,866 But if you think about it, you might be changing lots of things. 47 00:02:04,866 --> 00:02:06,896 And I think it is like a relationship breakup. 48 00:02:06,896 --> 00:02:09,196 You start by just keeping things simple and low risk. 49 00:02:09,196 --> 00:02:11,086 You might breakup your routine a little bit. 50 00:02:11,396 --> 00:02:12,766 Avoid certain places. 51 00:02:13,276 --> 00:02:15,616 Maybe use that juicer every morning to distract yourself. 52 00:02:15,866 --> 00:02:19,156 But you will need to change more than your smoking, to stop your smoking. 53 00:02:21,306 --> 00:02:22,336 The next is the why. 54 00:02:22,766 --> 00:02:23,426 Why change? 55 00:02:23,936 --> 00:02:26,376 I feel like I could do a ten-minute video just 56 00:02:26,376 --> 00:02:28,816 on all the medical reasons why not to smoke and they are legion. 57 00:02:28,816 --> 00:02:29,826 But I'm going to spare you. 58 00:02:30,056 --> 00:02:31,516 Partly because you already know. 59 00:02:31,706 --> 00:02:33,246 Partly because you don't need anymore guilt. 60 00:02:33,246 --> 00:02:36,776 And partly because in clinic, I actually spend more time asking people what they 61 00:02:36,776 --> 00:02:37,836 like about smoking. 62 00:02:38,096 --> 00:02:39,636 Which sounds funny, but I think we have 63 00:02:39,636 --> 00:02:42,476 to recognize there are positives or at least perceived positives. 64 00:02:42,476 --> 00:02:46,046 And I think it's important to reframe these perceptions, if we are to make a change. 65 00:02:46,046 --> 00:02:47,966 So, let's run through a few of the common ones. 66 00:02:48,746 --> 00:02:49,946 Cigarettes are my friend. 67 00:02:50,156 --> 00:02:51,086 They destress me. 68 00:02:51,306 --> 00:02:52,116 They relax me. 69 00:02:52,116 --> 00:02:55,576 Hmm, I'm not going to deny that you may feel a sense of relief 70 00:02:55,576 --> 00:02:57,316 and satisfaction, when you have a cigarette. 71 00:02:57,736 --> 00:02:58,896 But I see it a bit differently. 72 00:02:59,086 --> 00:03:00,326 You have a nicotine addiction. 73 00:03:00,716 --> 00:03:02,776 The nicotine in tobacco is highly addictive. 74 00:03:02,936 --> 00:03:06,946 Within a few seconds of inhaling, it travels to your brain causing you to have a temporary high. 75 00:03:07,756 --> 00:03:12,786 Over time, your brain changes, causing you to smoke more to get the same effect. 76 00:03:12,816 --> 00:03:15,486 We rate your addiction to nicotine with a few simple questions. 77 00:03:15,516 --> 00:03:17,436 Do you smoke more than 15 cigarettes a day? 78 00:03:17,576 --> 00:03:20,166 Or smoke within 30 minutes of getting up in the morning? 79 00:03:20,296 --> 00:03:23,576 Do you find it difficult to go more than four hours without a smoke? 80 00:03:24,346 --> 00:03:28,226 The power of nicotine comes from the repeated small doses you give yourself when you smoke. 81 00:03:28,896 --> 00:03:33,576 It may seem innocent at first, but if you take 15 puffs from a cigarette and smoke, say, 82 00:03:33,576 --> 00:03:36,376 20 cigarettes a day, that's 300 drug doses a day. 83 00:03:37,126 --> 00:03:39,436 You think smoking relieves your stress or is satisfying. 84 00:03:39,436 --> 00:03:40,376 But it actually isn't. 85 00:03:40,376 --> 00:03:43,056 The cigarette is just making your nicotine addiction go away. 86 00:03:43,666 --> 00:03:45,616 Smoking doesn't make your concentration better. 87 00:03:46,106 --> 00:03:48,576 It just calms your nicotine receptors cry for more. 88 00:03:49,616 --> 00:03:51,356 Smoking makes your heart beat faster. 89 00:03:51,456 --> 00:03:53,636 Increases blood pressure and breathing. 90 00:03:53,856 --> 00:03:56,446 These are all symptoms of stress, not stress reduction. 91 00:03:56,916 --> 00:03:57,766 Let me repeat that. 92 00:03:58,416 --> 00:04:00,946 The cigarette just reduces your nicotine stress, not your real stress. 93 00:04:05,926 --> 00:04:07,396 I've got a lot of trigger times. 94 00:04:07,936 --> 00:04:10,886 Coffee, sex, meals, certain people. 95 00:04:11,006 --> 00:04:13,476 Break times, telephone calls, the car. 96 00:04:13,726 --> 00:04:16,086 There are a lot of triggers you're going to have to prepare for. 97 00:04:17,016 --> 00:04:18,875 You got to change your coffee routine. 98 00:04:18,875 --> 00:04:21,005 Plan something to do right after meals. 99 00:04:21,076 --> 00:04:22,446 Throw out your car ashtray. 100 00:04:23,106 --> 00:04:25,976 I have no advice on sex, but make a plan for breaks 101 00:04:26,026 --> 00:04:28,136 or the telephone, with lots of distractions. 102 00:04:29,336 --> 00:04:32,586 Know that when you have a hunger or caffeine or other types of pangs, 103 00:04:32,586 --> 00:04:35,146 you also have a nicotine pang that needs to be satisfied. 104 00:04:35,506 --> 00:04:37,776 You have associated these, but they're actually separate. 105 00:04:38,526 --> 00:04:42,506 Alcohol and parties double the risk, as you have the association. 106 00:04:42,506 --> 00:04:45,086 Plus, you're imbibing something that intends to lower your resolve. 107 00:04:46,756 --> 00:04:47,996 I want something in my hand. 108 00:04:49,146 --> 00:04:52,126 Yes, you are making maybe 300 hand motions a day. 109 00:04:52,586 --> 00:04:57,006 You may need to replace this by chewing gum or chewing on a straw or a cinnamon stick. 110 00:04:57,006 --> 00:05:01,116 Or playing on your cellphone, to keep your hands busy, to replace this daily habit. 111 00:05:02,596 --> 00:05:03,376 I will gain weight. 112 00:05:04,946 --> 00:05:05,616 Yes, you might. 113 00:05:05,686 --> 00:05:08,106 But I think this is actually more marketing than reality. 114 00:05:08,106 --> 00:05:09,876 What I call the Virginia Slims effect. 115 00:05:10,496 --> 00:05:14,156 On average, people who quit, gain about 2.5 kilograms or five pounds. 116 00:05:14,696 --> 00:05:15,866 So, two thoughts on this. 117 00:05:16,266 --> 00:05:19,616 Firstly, if this is a concern for you, you might want to focus on strategies 118 00:05:19,616 --> 00:05:21,416 that affect calories in and calories out. 119 00:05:21,416 --> 00:05:24,006 Such as your new daily routines might focus on walking. 120 00:05:24,486 --> 00:05:27,126 A special emphasis on being mindful of emotional eating. 121 00:05:27,666 --> 00:05:30,546 Or that your hand mouth routine includes carrots or celery sticks. 122 00:05:31,096 --> 00:05:32,676 My second point is about perspective. 123 00:05:32,836 --> 00:05:35,906 A possible five pounds may be important from a vanity perspective. 124 00:05:36,336 --> 00:05:37,866 But from my doctor perspective, 125 00:05:38,076 --> 00:05:41,186 the health return is spectacularly higher, when you stop smoking. 126 00:05:41,986 --> 00:05:43,946 Remember, we said smoking was a relationship. 127 00:05:44,146 --> 00:05:46,646 Part of the healing of stopping a damaging relationship, 128 00:05:46,646 --> 00:05:48,216 is start a new healthy relationship. 129 00:05:48,766 --> 00:05:52,706 So, now it's the time to start a deeper relationship with your bicycle or salads 130 00:05:52,706 --> 00:05:55,586 or walking or gardening or your support of friends. 131 00:05:56,956 --> 00:05:58,026 Next is the how. 132 00:05:58,276 --> 00:06:00,206 What do the skills require to change? 133 00:06:00,206 --> 00:06:02,286 How do I change, with the emphasis on I? 134 00:06:03,306 --> 00:06:04,086 So, what works? 135 00:06:04,086 --> 00:06:05,596 Well, let's start with willpower. 136 00:06:05,906 --> 00:06:06,896 It's a strange word. 137 00:06:06,896 --> 00:06:11,016 On the one hand, it permeates behavior change and all of the interventions we talked about. 138 00:06:11,516 --> 00:06:14,026 It's also a word I don't love, as people see it as black and white. 139 00:06:14,026 --> 00:06:17,506 If a person succeeds, they have willpower and if they fail, they have no willpower. 140 00:06:18,076 --> 00:06:20,566 The science of willpower and smoking gives a mixed message. 141 00:06:20,566 --> 00:06:23,486 Approximately 5% of smokers who try to quit cold turkey, 142 00:06:23,486 --> 00:06:26,026 achieve prolonged abstinence for six to 12 months. 143 00:06:26,696 --> 00:06:29,486 With most relapsing in the first eight days of attempting to quit. 144 00:06:29,486 --> 00:06:32,706 And the other hand, most people who quit, do so unassisted. 145 00:06:32,736 --> 00:06:35,946 Maybe 2/3 to 3/4 of people do so by themselves. 146 00:06:36,786 --> 00:06:41,276 Reconciling these two stats reveal the natural history of smoking cessation, that quote, 147 00:06:41,526 --> 00:06:43,986 "failures" are part of this process. 148 00:06:43,986 --> 00:06:46,916 And can be seen as dress rehearsals for the eventual success. 149 00:06:48,686 --> 00:06:51,536 Another key pearl here is the data which tells us that a perception 150 00:06:51,536 --> 00:06:54,706 of the quitting smoking experience is often much darker than reality. 151 00:06:55,666 --> 00:06:58,696 In a British study of people who were surveyed about their quit experience, 152 00:06:59,046 --> 00:07:02,386 53% said that it was not at all difficult to stop. 153 00:07:02,996 --> 00:07:05,286 Twenty seven percent said it was fairly difficult. 154 00:07:05,286 --> 00:07:07,316 And the remainder found it very difficult. 155 00:07:07,606 --> 00:07:10,236 So, to summarize, you can do it by yourself. 156 00:07:10,236 --> 00:07:12,016 And it may be less difficult than you think. 157 00:07:12,356 --> 00:07:16,316 On the other hand, it looks like your chances are better if you layer on some other tactics. 158 00:07:16,316 --> 00:07:17,556 So, if you fail, try again. 159 00:07:17,556 --> 00:07:19,226 And think about adding another strategy. 160 00:07:20,476 --> 00:07:22,276 Some say there are two types of cigarettes. 161 00:07:22,276 --> 00:07:24,746 Those that are dealing with your nicotine addiction and those 162 00:07:24,746 --> 00:07:26,076 that have become part of a routine. 163 00:07:26,736 --> 00:07:28,996 So, let's see what works for both these types of cigarettes. 164 00:07:30,756 --> 00:07:33,226 Let's start with treatments that have not been proven affective. 165 00:07:33,676 --> 00:07:35,276 And where you may be wasting your money. 166 00:07:35,466 --> 00:07:37,736 Now, some of my patients have found they help. 167 00:07:37,736 --> 00:07:41,206 And to be honest, if they stop your smoking, I suppose I don't really care. 168 00:07:41,646 --> 00:07:45,156 But under this category I put laser therapy, acupuncture and hypnosis. 169 00:07:45,616 --> 00:07:49,276 When we compare these treatments to a placebo or just compare them to the quit rates 170 00:07:49,276 --> 00:07:51,536 on waiting lists, the rates don't appear to be improved. 171 00:07:52,266 --> 00:07:54,396 Next is medications to help stop smoking. 172 00:07:55,156 --> 00:07:58,666 The data shows that medications, especially when combined with behavioral support, 173 00:07:58,666 --> 00:08:00,306 can double your chance of success. 174 00:08:01,206 --> 00:08:03,246 Many patients are resistant, which I get. 175 00:08:03,666 --> 00:08:05,776 But I also see an irony in the fact that people are willing 176 00:08:05,776 --> 00:08:07,876 to inhale chemicals much, much worse for them. 177 00:08:08,276 --> 00:08:10,706 But they won't take a medication for a few weeks or months 178 00:08:10,706 --> 00:08:12,446 to stop smoking for the rest of their life. 179 00:08:13,406 --> 00:08:16,796 If we use nicotine replacement therapy as an example, it allows people to deal 180 00:08:16,846 --> 00:08:18,506 with the addiction of nicotine, without having 181 00:08:18,506 --> 00:08:22,366 to inhale the other 7,537 chemicals in cigarettes. 182 00:08:22,906 --> 00:08:24,106 And that's what I worry about. 183 00:08:24,266 --> 00:08:29,566 People die, two full 747's of people a week in Canada, from smoking, not nicotine. 184 00:08:30,906 --> 00:08:33,126 Nicotine replacement therapy comes in multiple forms. 185 00:08:33,126 --> 00:08:35,645 And there is usually less nicotine then what you get in a cigarette. 186 00:08:36,296 --> 00:08:38,306 You can put on a patch, which is easy and discreet. 187 00:08:38,306 --> 00:08:41,126 You can chew gum, although in a different way than you usually chew gum. 188 00:08:41,666 --> 00:08:43,866 You can suck on a lozenge or you can use an inhaler. 189 00:08:44,285 --> 00:08:47,396 The patch gives you a nice baseline nicotine level to lower your cravings. 190 00:08:47,676 --> 00:08:50,146 The latter three, offer the advantage of flexible dosing, 191 00:08:50,146 --> 00:08:51,426 when you have a nicotine craving. 192 00:08:51,826 --> 00:08:55,036 And a familiar routine of opening packages and putting something in your mouth. 193 00:08:55,546 --> 00:08:59,736 The important thing people need to know about nicotine replacement therapy are, firstly, 194 00:08:59,736 --> 00:09:01,436 you can design your own nicotine program. 195 00:09:01,786 --> 00:09:03,016 You do not need a prescription. 196 00:09:03,476 --> 00:09:07,166 Prefer the patch and then the gum or lozenge or inhaler for breakthrough cravings? 197 00:09:07,166 --> 00:09:09,706 Great. Maybe you smoke under ten cigarettes a day 198 00:09:09,706 --> 00:09:11,256 and just want to use the gum when you need it. 199 00:09:11,846 --> 00:09:13,606 Your pharmacist can really help here. 200 00:09:14,286 --> 00:09:16,036 People get a bit confused with the cost. 201 00:09:16,036 --> 00:09:19,686 NRT is generally cheaper than smoking, but you might be buying a month at once. 202 00:09:20,526 --> 00:09:22,226 Moneywise, of course, it's a no brainer. 203 00:09:22,226 --> 00:09:24,706 A pack a day is maybe $3,600 a year. 204 00:09:25,366 --> 00:09:26,886 imagine what you would do with that money. 205 00:09:26,886 --> 00:09:29,526 Imagine what you would do with ten years of that savings. 206 00:09:30,396 --> 00:09:34,056 Secondly, with nicotine replacement, you can stop cold turkey 207 00:09:34,056 --> 00:09:35,766 or you can wean down your smoking. 208 00:09:36,326 --> 00:09:37,876 Taking nicotine and smoking together, 209 00:09:37,876 --> 00:09:40,736 does not increase your risk of heart attacks, smoking does. 210 00:09:40,736 --> 00:09:43,216 You probably started smoking gradually. 211 00:09:43,216 --> 00:09:45,176 And I guess the same can be true of stopping. 212 00:09:45,616 --> 00:09:48,126 If you feel you need another month of NRT, then that's fine. 213 00:09:48,126 --> 00:09:51,376 I'm not going to go into details of pills for smoking cessation. 214 00:09:51,376 --> 00:09:53,906 But I will give you a quick overview of the two most known ones. 215 00:09:54,296 --> 00:09:56,126 The first is Zyban or bupropion. 216 00:09:56,796 --> 00:09:58,436 This started just as an antidepressant. 217 00:09:58,436 --> 00:10:01,896 And then users found their desire for smoking dropped and they were able to quit more easily. 218 00:10:02,486 --> 00:10:06,046 Champix or Chantix, in the U.S., is varenicline. 219 00:10:06,046 --> 00:10:10,296 It is a newer option that may be even more effective, but also has some side effects 220 00:10:10,296 --> 00:10:11,866 that may make it not for everyone. 221 00:10:12,566 --> 00:10:15,386 You can discuss these options with your doctor or other healthcare providers. 222 00:10:15,386 --> 00:10:17,076 The counseling needs to be individualized. 223 00:10:17,926 --> 00:10:20,066 The final approach is the behavioral interventions. 224 00:10:20,066 --> 00:10:24,856 I covered some of this ground, but I don't think people realize how many fantastic resources are 225 00:10:24,856 --> 00:10:25,536 out there for them. 226 00:10:26,186 --> 00:10:28,566 Governments make a lot of money from people who smoke. 227 00:10:28,566 --> 00:10:30,356 And they fell into superb programs. 228 00:10:30,596 --> 00:10:32,616 You want a text message, a supportive e-mail? 229 00:10:32,956 --> 00:10:35,486 You want expert counseling, want to be connected with other people going 230 00:10:35,486 --> 00:10:37,756 through the same thing or who have just been there? 231 00:10:38,496 --> 00:10:39,916 Or maybe you just want to talk to someone? 232 00:10:40,266 --> 00:10:40,926 Go online. 233 00:10:41,086 --> 00:10:41,936 Call the help line. 234 00:10:42,036 --> 00:10:42,606 Buy the book. 235 00:10:42,646 --> 00:10:43,456 Get the message. 236 00:10:44,016 --> 00:10:46,676 In the first months following quitting, I want you to prepare 237 00:10:46,676 --> 00:10:48,546 for the roadblocks of risk and stress. 238 00:10:49,206 --> 00:10:51,056 So, avoid high-risk situations. 239 00:10:51,206 --> 00:10:51,956 You know what they are. 240 00:10:52,276 --> 00:10:54,596 You might want to tell the people involved in advance. 241 00:10:54,976 --> 00:10:57,026 And then I want you to focus on stress reduction. 242 00:10:57,626 --> 00:11:00,456 Stressful things are going to happen to you, but you create the stress. 243 00:11:01,076 --> 00:11:03,546 Tell people, "Hey, I'm quitting smoking this month." 244 00:11:03,546 --> 00:11:05,726 So, what's the least stressful strategy that works. 245 00:11:06,106 --> 00:11:08,416 I also get people to think about the three A's. 246 00:11:08,986 --> 00:11:11,136 Avoid situations you know are stressful for you. 247 00:11:12,136 --> 00:11:13,476 Alter expectations. 248 00:11:13,586 --> 00:11:15,716 So, when you look at your to do list, be realistic. 249 00:11:15,986 --> 00:11:18,416 Manage the expectations up front before it's stressful. 250 00:11:18,716 --> 00:11:20,506 And the final A is acceptance. 251 00:11:21,386 --> 00:11:26,316 If we use driving as an example, traffic jams, bad drivers and flat tires happen. 252 00:11:26,316 --> 00:11:26,946 Take a deep breath. 253 00:11:27,466 --> 00:11:28,796 Focus on what you can control. 254 00:11:28,796 --> 00:11:30,806 And accept what you can't. 255 00:11:31,216 --> 00:11:33,886 Now, let's say you quit smoking, that's excellent. 256 00:11:34,256 --> 00:11:34,886 You've broken up. 257 00:11:34,886 --> 00:11:36,246 So, what now? 258 00:11:36,706 --> 00:11:38,086 Well, first of all, you're great. 259 00:11:38,656 --> 00:11:41,296 Secondly, there's going to be some ups and downs. 260 00:11:41,296 --> 00:11:43,446 More ups, especially after you get through the first month. 261 00:11:43,516 --> 00:11:46,716 But some of the things to expect with nicotine withdrawal are cravings. 262 00:11:46,716 --> 00:11:48,626 And these don't follow a perfect line. 263 00:11:49,336 --> 00:11:52,246 Headaches, nervousness, irritability, trouble sleeping. 264 00:11:52,246 --> 00:11:53,546 And you may want to eat more. 265 00:11:53,546 --> 00:11:54,916 So, have some healthy foods ready. 266 00:11:54,916 --> 00:11:58,686 And then also people tend to have more of a cough, as their lungs self-clean. 267 00:11:59,566 --> 00:12:03,576 Finally, the Japanese have a proverb that success is falling 268 00:12:03,576 --> 00:12:05,496 down seven times and getting up eight times. 269 00:12:06,186 --> 00:12:07,826 If you get derailed, don't feel guilty. 270 00:12:08,396 --> 00:12:10,436 As I said in the beginning, this is a journey. 271 00:12:10,656 --> 00:12:11,666 Come back and see us. 272 00:12:11,816 --> 00:12:13,466 This is the best thing I can do for you. 273 00:12:13,996 --> 00:12:15,016 Don't learn helplessness. 274 00:12:15,016 --> 00:12:17,006 Learn about yourself and get ready for the next round. 275 00:12:17,976 --> 00:12:18,816 And thanks for listening.