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I have come a long way into a profession [br]and never thought of coming to

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so it's a long way to come through[br]and not giving up in between

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where there so many reasons and times where I

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felt exasperated, exhausted, frustrated

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I have a lot more tolerance for bullshit now

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to begin with, I have kind of calmed down a lot

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from what I was before

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I was way too over-impulsive at that time

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When she became a part of the team and when she

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observed a lot of things around[br]then only thing she wanted was

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just equality so,

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that became my core calling or core sentiment or idea

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or something that I should, I kept in mind when I performed

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each and every scene that I did

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Yeah starting from the scratch being an outsider yes

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that ways, yes but I mean it's not like

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I tell him that you know we have[br]this similar kind of a thing

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you just have to, I've told him that he is the benchmark or

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the person that every outsider especially [br]coming from Delhi looks up to

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Yeah please ask Marvel I'm telling you

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this is the only wishlist I have

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People keep asking me what is your dream role?

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who do you want to work with?

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I have only one dream role, and one dream right now

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where my work is concerned [br]I want to be a part of Avengers

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I want to play a superhero of Indian origin.

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Hi, everyone this Avinash Lohana [br]and you're watching Pinkvilla

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It's always nice to talk to someone whose journey

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you've seen up close and personal

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Please welcome the very [br]very talented Tapsee Pannu

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Thank you so much

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Hi[br]hi

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finally, I'm happy to do this with you

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Yeah because I now have a face to the name

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I remember the first time I met you [br]was during the promotions of Baby

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I remember you were wearing a green dress and the

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one thing that has remained consistent ever since then

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is your confidence and your aura

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If you go back to that time today Tapsee

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or maybe even further, let's go to 2010 your first film

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when you look back at this girl, [br]you've really come a long way

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I have come a long way in a profession I never

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thought of coming to,

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so it's a long way to come through[br]and not giving up in between

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where there were so many reasons and times where I

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felt exasperated exhausted frustrated

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yeah but I still kept going [br]so when I look back at it

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I'm like I've come this far

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I can push a little more.

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What helped you during these [br]times when you're frustrated?

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See in the beginning it was just[br]the excitement of discovering

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a new profession something that you know

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every day there was a new world for me to discover

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and that's how the film industry is

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everyday you meet a bunch of new people

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every day there are new issues new workplace

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so everything is new every day

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that's the beauty of this and [br]and that kind of kept me glued

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for the beginning few years but [br]then after a couple of years when

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I probably were getting exhausted [br]a lot of times I looked back and I saw that

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for someone who never planned [br]to be here has come this way

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and made some kind of presence so

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I think I can push a little more

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So I think looking back at my own journey and feeling like

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When I've hung on for so long I can do it farther more

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that became

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you know inspiration apart from

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you know you keep seeing other women but nobody has

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the exact same journey as someone else right?

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Everyone has carved their own path so[br]I can't just look at one person and feel

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if she did it then i also follow the same rule.

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Nobody has the same rule

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So I didn't have any specific journey to follow I could only

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look back at my own journey and feel that

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I've come this far, I think I can push a little more

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You have. I don't know if you've noticed but[br]July 1, 2010, was your first film release

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Yes

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you complete 12 years now

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Actually yeah I'm gonna complete 12 years

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How does this feel yeah I know a lot has changed

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professionally over the last 12 years

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Has this journey changed you personally in any way?

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Oh yeah yeah

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I have become a very very different person[br]from what I was in the beginning

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A lot of things might not have changed also but

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I have noticed some big changes in me I have...

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... a lot more tolerance for bull shit now

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to begin with.

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I have calmed down a lot from what I was before

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I was way too over-impulsive at that time

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very

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sensitive also to

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nonsense you know where people just

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without thinking, if you say something [br]even if it's not a part of my agenda in life

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I'll try to correct you

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you know that kind of over [br]impulsive and over-sensitivity I had

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now I have calmed down a little bit

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not my monkey [br]not my business

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I have learned that attitude a little

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So I think it's just age right![br]Which makes people a little more

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matured and mellowed down

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It also comes with success, isn't it

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Yeah a lot of other things come with[br]success like especially in this industry

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it teaches you not to take your success or failures

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either of them too seriously

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Correct. [Avinash][br]That I learned I've not been a

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good loser, I still my family members still call me

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she's a very sore loser when I play board games

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I'm a very sore loser and probably [br]even worse winner actually

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But, at work life, I've kind of become better like I don't

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take either success or failure too strongly now

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It's not like it doesn't affect me, it still[br]affects me and it disturbs me a little bit

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But I've gotten better at coping up with it

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Yeah I have noticed that too and[br]more power to you for that

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Oh yeah thank you

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there have been many milestones in your career

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Pink, Mulk, Thappar but I think

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Shabash Mithu takes 10 notches up higher

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and of course, there's always [br]a pressure to play a real-life person

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somebody who's been celebrated so much but

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I want to know when you first got the script or

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when you first met Mithali,[br]what was her brief to you?

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See the kind of woman of few words she is

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she didn't say anything for me to keep in mind

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The only thing I kept observing and noticing and

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feeling was that-

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How will I portray this person who is[br]diametrically opposite to me as a person?

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First the cricket

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then this personality which is nothing[br]there's nothing in common

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For me to latch on to, so that is what I was[br]thinking when I met her for the first time

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and for what I had to keep in mind is like at no point like

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our core of the story was [br]at no point I should

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leave that ideology that she

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followed her entire career or professional life

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that's just basic respect

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and the acknowledgement

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that women cricket deserves [br]that is the only thing she kept

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fighting for from the time [br]she realised what her calling is

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from the time she realised that okay you know I

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when she became part of the team and when[br]she observed a lot of things around then

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the only thing she wanted was

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just equality, so

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that became my core calling [br]or core sentiment or idea

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or something that I should, I kept in mind

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when I performed each & every scene that I did

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Sure there's a line in the trailer which says

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we'll play in such a way that nobody dares to forget us

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When you started out this must-have played [br]on your mind also at some point

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very similar journey in that sense

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Yeah yeah ideologically yes, that's my[br]thread that I connected with Mithali

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you have to leave a certain

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impact in the sense you

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you have to bring about a certain change so that things

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that you felt were wrong when you were there

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or you felt there's a need to change, what [br]changed a little bit by the time you left

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otherwise, you came and you left[br]nothing changed or nothing mattered

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would have been a little sad

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So, I'm not saying I'll be the biggest change possible

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I'll be a small part of the big change that's going to happen

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or that is happening I would want to be [br]that and that particular dialogue honestly,

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it was not on paper

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Okay

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It's a part of my dialogue

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and when I was saying it something impromptu

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because I had done that other scene where the

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'Ho Gayi Pehchan' scene had[br]happened already so somehow

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I felt like bringing that word in that[br]dialogue and I very spontaneously

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ended up saying that and when the take got done

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Priya and Srijit were like you know that works so keep that

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so it was a very unexpected and spontaneous

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a word that I ended up using in that [br]dialogue which was not written on paper

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You turned producer recently, with [br]a film which is led by 4 very strong women

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Was it Important for you to start your producer's[br]journey with a film which is led by women?

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Actually, coincidentally, I ended up

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I co-produced Blur as well, which I'm [br]I feature in

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but that was not the plan,

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The plan was to start with Dhak Dhak only

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It so happened that while we were prepping up for Blur

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you know I decided to become a co-producer

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because of certain changes in things

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But the initial plan was to start with Dhak Dhak

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Okay. The way things were progressing[br]we were working on packaging

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and presenting Dhak Dhak only [br]when Blur happened and then

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that journey took off earlier, [br]it was not that I planned that I'll

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produce a four women film

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But it's very you

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But it just I it just attracts

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I think after a point a certain kind of script[br]attract you and certain kind of

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you get attracted to certain kind of stuff so it becomes

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it becomes an organic match after a point

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so hence it happened even the coming ones[br]that you'll hear the announcements of

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which I'm producing and I'm not acting in them

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you'll be like yeah I mean [br]you're expected to produce this

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but I'm glad that people would feel that you know

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you wanted to produce it and it looks like it's your film

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because I want to keep it in sync

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The films that I produce and the films that I act in

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All films might not be female-driven but the sensibility

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will be in the same space like how it is when I act in a film

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At least the women power will be given equal respect

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yeah yeah full relevance

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there'll be a female gaze as much as a male gaze in the film

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Sure. You're doing a film with Samantha also,[br]you're producing a film for her

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There is something that we are working together on

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we'll announce what it is very soon but yeah,

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we are working on something

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Such a great combination!

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Yeah, I'll be producing.[br]I'm really excited for- [Avinash]

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So you're producing it?[br]I'm producing it [Tapsee]

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Act also!

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If there is a part in it that

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that I can do then I'll

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But she's going to be leading it

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Wow! Excited for that one?

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Of course I am[br]Of course, I am

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there's a different kind of excitement [br]when I see Dhak Dhak's everyday

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call sheet, every day pictures and videos from the location

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there is a different child-like excitement in[br]me to see that happening which is like

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how you feel is your baby kind of a feeling

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it feels like that only, so it's a different kind of excitement

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when I...

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... assess dhak dhak

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Yeah you've spoken about how

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you spoke to Shah Rukh sir about you know [br]how both of you come from Delhi

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I didn't speak to him about it I mean he knows that and I

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have a special admiration which[br]I don't know how it gets even

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bigger than what I have for him [br]but also because we both hail from

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the same city, there is a certain [br]affinity that I have towards him

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also because of that

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But also similar journey right?

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Yeah starting from scratch

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being an outsider yes that ways yes but

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But I mean it's not like I tell him that you know [br]we have the similar kind of a thing

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you just have to-[br]I've told him that

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He is the benchmark or the person that every outsider

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especially coming from Delhi looks up to

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Yeah but you're a superstar yourself [br]but when meet the Shah Rukh Khan

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I'm not a superstar but he is the superstar [br]I don't really feel like-

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when you work with people like him or superstars like him

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you really realise that what the stakes of the word

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Stardom, or star

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That is when he didn't have a release in the last 5 years but

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one move of his

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just creates a storm everywhere [br]his victories are personal

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his loss is personal that's stardom for me

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that is stardom not what [br]we feel star is

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But when I see this filmography of yours now which is coming

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I feel really happy

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These are really milestones which needs to be celebrated-

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Sometimes when I feel a little down and out[br]I also go and open my filmography and see

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you should

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No I did that a couple of days back I'm not even kidding

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it might just sound very embarrassing[br]but sometimes you know

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because I don't have people around [br]me who deludes me constantly

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and I kind of have a very limited

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people around me and the people [br]around me who I get affected by

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are not the ones who deludes me a lot they[br]give me a reality check every now & then

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and sometimes a reality check makes me go in my shell

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forget about flying high they'll put me even like

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you are a nobody so sometimes you need all those

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on low days you need a kind of a motivation and a push

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which I was telling you, you need to look back at your journey

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and feel like that you've done it

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so actually a few days back I remember when I was

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on not so good days I ended [br]up going back and checking

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okay let me just see what I've achieved till date

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what did I do?what all have I done

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what all have I gone wrong or [br]right in whatever let me just see and

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I was like yeah I've really worked hard so that is

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that is how I get myself up from those low days

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Of course but what's your opinion on[br]this recent south versus Bollywood debate?

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Nothing. I actually have worked there

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so I've worked there[br]I still work there

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It's been 12 years I've been working there

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I know that they've been making[br]these kind of films and good films

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since ever, so it's only now the Hindi [br]speaking audience is waking up to them

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it's nothing new for them like for them [br]maybe the market has increased now

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but it's not like a suddenly they're [br]making something out of the ordinary

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it's not like that

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They've been doing the same kind of stuff good or bad

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They too have hits and flops [br]they're still doing a good job like ever

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It's just that the audience-

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The Hindi-speaking audience is [br]waking up to them because of ott and

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because of satellite channels suddenly

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people started watching them now that they're in theatres

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their stardom is reflecting

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but it's not like they are making[br]any different kind of stuff from what

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they were making a couple of years back

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Point. I have to ask you this

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in one of the past interviews you've said [br]I want to be an Indian superhero

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When is that happening?

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Yeah please ask Marvel, I am telling[br]you this is the only wish list I have

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people keep asking me what is your[br]dream role who do you want to work with?

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I have only one dream role and one dream[br]right now where my work is concerned

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I want to be a part of the Avengers

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I want to play a superhero of Indian origin, that's

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all I am trying to manifest

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so if anyone tells me a way to go about it

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I'll follow it.

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But in the meanwhile, you're a superhero in your life and

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we are celebrating it

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Please just keep watching my films I think I'll

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I'll keep doing it then

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I'm sure everyone is[br]thank you so much Tapsee

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This is a lovely conversation[br]Thank you

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Hi this is Tapsee Pannu [br]if you like this video please

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