[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:00.70,0:00:03.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(slow music) Dialogue: 0,0:00:07.41,0:00:09.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(phone dialer) Dialogue: 0,0:00:10.33,0:00:13.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Salman Toor, Artist] Dialogue: 0,0:00:13.19,0:00:15.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(slow music) Dialogue: 0,0:00:17.10,0:00:21.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,["Salman Toor's Emerald Green"] Dialogue: 0,0:00:21.82,0:00:24.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(phone rings) Dialogue: 0,0:00:33.18,0:00:34.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Hello. Dialogue: 0,0:00:35.33,0:00:37.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Father over phone]\N-Hello, how are you son? Dialogue: 0,0:00:37.48,0:00:39.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Toor]\N-All is well! Dialogue: 0,0:00:39.65,0:00:41.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-What's going on with you? Dialogue: 0,0:00:41.52,0:00:43.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think I told you about this, Dialogue: 0,0:00:43.10,0:00:45.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this small painting is going to a museum. Dialogue: 0,0:00:45.55,0:00:49.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's going to be hung next\Nto historical paintings Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.54,0:00:52.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from seventeenth-century Holland. Dialogue: 0,0:00:53.58,0:00:55.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's called the Frick museum. Dialogue: 0,0:00:55.100,0:00:58.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To me, it is probably the best thing Dialogue: 0,0:00:58.69,0:01:01.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's ever going to\Nhappen, ever. (laughs) Dialogue: 0,0:01:01.88,0:01:05.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So completely unimaginable, Dialogue: 0,0:01:05.48,0:01:07.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like a couple of years ago. Dialogue: 0,0:01:07.41,0:01:10.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I'm just really excited. Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.54,0:01:13.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(slow music) Dialogue: 0,0:01:14.88,0:01:17.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Most of these paintings\Nare based on memory Dialogue: 0,0:01:17.81,0:01:20.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or the fantasy of memory\Nof having grown up Dialogue: 0,0:01:20.23,0:01:22.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a kind of conservative place. Dialogue: 0,0:01:22.15,0:01:23.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Lahore, Pakistan, 1990] Dialogue: 0,0:01:23.47,0:01:25.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(children singing) Dialogue: 0,0:01:28.26,0:01:33.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Growing up as fem boy in a\Nmostly homophobic culture, Dialogue: 0,0:01:33.60,0:01:36.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's exciting to put that next to Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.64,0:01:38.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these pictures of ultra freedom. Dialogue: 0,0:01:38.86,0:01:41.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(slow music) Dialogue: 0,0:01:43.45,0:01:45.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In fact, it's kind of\Nlike annoyingly free. Dialogue: 0,0:01:49.13,0:01:52.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm focusing on\Nthe idea that the freedoms Dialogue: 0,0:01:52.65,0:01:54.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we all to take for granted here Dialogue: 0,0:01:54.44,0:01:56.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is pretty vulnerable. Dialogue: 0,0:01:56.25,0:01:58.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(slow music) Dialogue: 0,0:02:00.80,0:02:02.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So in 2002, when I moved here, Dialogue: 0,0:02:02.70,0:02:05.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was a complete\Ntransformation in my life Dialogue: 0,0:02:05.94,0:02:09.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I had never been\Nto the States before. Dialogue: 0,0:02:09.28,0:02:12.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I went straight to a college town. Dialogue: 0,0:02:12.57,0:02:16.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To me, it was magical because\Neverybody had long hair. Dialogue: 0,0:02:16.41,0:02:18.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was okay to be gay. Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.85,0:02:21.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was getting into European art history Dialogue: 0,0:02:21.64,0:02:22.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the first time. Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.54,0:02:26.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(papers scratching) Dialogue: 0,0:02:28.45,0:02:31.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was an important painting to me Dialogue: 0,0:02:31.90,0:02:34.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I haven't looked\Nat it for a long time. Dialogue: 0,0:02:34.93,0:02:37.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it's really,\Nsort of, refined-- Dialogue: 0,0:02:37.87,0:02:40.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just really gay. (laughs) Dialogue: 0,0:02:40.80,0:02:41.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Which is great Dialogue: 0,0:02:41.63,0:02:42.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but like, you know, Dialogue: 0,0:02:42.86,0:02:47.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in retrospect I would probably\Nnot have the cock in there. Dialogue: 0,0:02:47.03,0:02:49.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's like so gratuitous and\Nit doesn't even have a shadow. Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.90,0:02:52.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(people laughing) Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.28,0:02:53.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Man, off-screen]\N- It doesn't have a shadow. Dialogue: 0,0:02:53.63,0:02:54.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Toor]\N- Yeah it doesn't have a shadow. Dialogue: 0,0:02:55.80,0:02:57.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(upbeat music) Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.90,0:03:00.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I did a painting in 2019. Dialogue: 0,0:03:00.16,0:03:01.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had thought about it Dialogue: 0,0:03:01.44,0:03:02.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I knew what I was going to do Dialogue: 0,0:03:02.91,0:03:04.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was going to be like\Nthis nocturnal, late-night Dialogue: 0,0:03:04.90,0:03:08.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,apartment scene with these\Nthree guys having a cool time. Dialogue: 0,0:03:08.78,0:03:10.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(upbeat music) Dialogue: 0,0:03:12.06,0:03:15.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was green and I was\Njust so pleased with it. Dialogue: 0,0:03:15.94,0:03:17.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(upbeat music) Dialogue: 0,0:03:17.92,0:03:22.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's something glamorous\Nabout emerald green Dialogue: 0,0:03:22.01,0:03:24.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and something nocturnal, inviting. Dialogue: 0,0:03:24.86,0:03:26.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(upbeat music) Dialogue: 0,0:03:26.38,0:03:30.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wanted to just explore\Nthat color for a while. Dialogue: 0,0:03:30.86,0:03:33.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(upbeat music) Dialogue: 0,0:03:40.78,0:03:43.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This particular thing that I do, Dialogue: 0,0:03:43.33,0:03:44.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think of them as "fag puddles." Dialogue: 0,0:03:44.93,0:03:48.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're sort of heaps of objects Dialogue: 0,0:03:48.71,0:03:51.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and tubular body parts. Dialogue: 0,0:03:51.84,0:03:54.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These body parts also have like, Dialogue: 0,0:03:54.70,0:03:59.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just balls and just feet and it's hairy Dialogue: 0,0:03:59.73,0:04:02.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's just all over the place. Dialogue: 0,0:04:02.15,0:04:06.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wanted to go into\Nthat surreal space Dialogue: 0,0:04:06.17,0:04:09.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when I was going to show it\Nin the Vermeer room at the Frick Dialogue: 0,0:04:09.50,0:04:13.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it's sort of fabulous,\Nbut also pathetic. Dialogue: 0,0:04:17.69,0:04:19.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I just wanted to use things Dialogue: 0,0:04:19.84,0:04:22.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that in my imagination\Nare personal symbols-- Dialogue: 0,0:04:23.44,0:04:27.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a kind of installation of made-up busts Dialogue: 0,0:04:27.17,0:04:30.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that look vaguely Buddhist or European. Dialogue: 0,0:04:31.42,0:04:33.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, you know, these drawings are really Dialogue: 0,0:04:33.54,0:04:37.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just about mapping out a composition. Dialogue: 0,0:04:37.14,0:04:39.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(piano music) Dialogue: 0,0:04:47.13,0:04:49.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(subway passing) Dialogue: 0,0:04:49.75,0:04:51.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(piano music) Dialogue: 0,0:04:51.26,0:04:53.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The paintings are peppered with Dialogue: 0,0:04:53.74,0:04:57.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nightmarish scenarios that\Nare based on anxieties Dialogue: 0,0:04:57.64,0:04:59.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(piano music) Dialogue: 0,0:04:59.56,0:05:02.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the kind of movement between Dialogue: 0,0:05:02.62,0:05:07.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,being an empowered new\Nperson in the city, but also, Dialogue: 0,0:05:07.44,0:05:09.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,moments of disempowerment Dialogue: 0,0:05:09.47,0:05:13.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and maybe even humiliation. (laughs) Dialogue: 0,0:05:18.39,0:05:22.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Your work, I just love\Nthe confidence in it. Dialogue: 0,0:05:22.53,0:05:25.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's just, it's so flowy Dialogue: 0,0:05:25.00,0:05:26.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Doron Langberg, artist] Dialogue: 0,0:05:26.24,0:05:27.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when you use the rainbow as an emblem. Dialogue: 0,0:05:27.57,0:05:29.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when you use the rainbow as an emblem.\N["Salman" by Doron Langberg] Dialogue: 0,0:05:29.03,0:05:31.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Doron Langberg]\N- When you painted me, I feel you captured Dialogue: 0,0:05:31.48,0:05:33.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something so specific. Dialogue: 0,0:05:33.21,0:05:35.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Toor]\NThe paintings are a reflection Dialogue: 0,0:05:35.43,0:05:38.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of most of the conversations\NI have with my friends. Dialogue: 0,0:05:38.82,0:05:43.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Queer friendships about young, fem guys Dialogue: 0,0:05:43.78,0:05:46.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,involved or ensconced\Nin cosmopolitan culture. Dialogue: 0,0:05:46.73,0:05:49.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(upbeat music) Dialogue: 0,0:05:57.66,0:06:00.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- And then this is the other one. Dialogue: 0,0:06:04.64,0:06:06.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Visitor]\N- And there's also a drawing, correct? Dialogue: 0,0:06:06.20,0:06:07.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Toor]\N- Yes, the drawing is here. Dialogue: 0,0:06:14.28,0:06:17.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(car engine roaring) Dialogue: 0,0:06:23.57,0:06:25.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(footsteps) Dialogue: 0,0:06:32.57,0:06:35.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Both of us love the stuff in here. Dialogue: 0,0:06:35.50,0:06:37.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We look at a lot of it, Dialogue: 0,0:06:37.60,0:06:41.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a lot of our inspiration comes\Nfrom these historical works. Dialogue: 0,0:06:41.51,0:06:45.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a really surreal thing\Nto be a part of something Dialogue: 0,0:06:45.96,0:06:50.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that can seem like a bit of\Nan ivory tower sometimes. Dialogue: 0,0:06:52.04,0:06:54.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(slow music) Dialogue: 0,0:07:00.14,0:07:01.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Langberg]\NThis is what we were looking at, Dialogue: 0,0:07:01.69,0:07:02.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like, all of our lives. Dialogue: 0,0:07:02.78,0:07:05.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thinking of them as just\Na continuous language Dialogue: 0,0:07:05.98,0:07:07.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and history, Dialogue: 0,0:07:07.25,0:07:09.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and having that in direct conversation Dialogue: 0,0:07:09.19,0:07:11.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is something that\NI didn't necessarily think would happen. Dialogue: 0,0:07:11.46,0:07:12.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(laughing) Dialogue: 0,0:07:14.70,0:07:17.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Toor]\NBeing from a post-colonial country Dialogue: 0,0:07:17.44,0:07:20.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where the encounter with Europe changed Dialogue: 0,0:07:20.09,0:07:22.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and transformed\Nthat region. Dialogue: 0,0:07:22.99,0:07:26.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's kind of like coming back\Nfull circle, in a sense. Dialogue: 0,0:07:27.31,0:07:32.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it feels really, really\Nimportant and poetic. Dialogue: 0,0:07:32.75,0:07:33.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(upbeat music)