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Dialogue: 0,0:00:04.16,0:00:06.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So when I say the word "vegan" to you,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:06.79,0:00:08.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what do you think of?
Dialogue: 0,0:00:08.38,0:00:11.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm sure for many of you,\Nyou think of "Oh, vegans.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:11.65,0:00:13.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why can't they just live and let live?
Dialogue: 0,0:00:13.46,0:00:16.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I personally have no problem\Nwith you being vegan,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:16.03,0:00:17.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but can you not force your views
Dialogue: 0,0:00:17.86,0:00:20.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and just respect my personal choice\Nto eat animal products?"
Dialogue: 0,0:00:20.96,0:00:22.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For some of you, you might be thinking,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:22.90,0:00:26.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Ah, no, vegan. I could never be vegan.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:26.31,0:00:28.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I love the taste of cheese\Nfar too much for that."
Dialogue: 0,0:00:28.97,0:00:31.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And some you might\Njust be confused and thinking,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:31.82,0:00:33.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"But eating meat is the circle of life,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:33.98,0:00:37.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and after all, other animals\Neat other animals,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:37.02,0:00:39.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so why can't I?"
Dialogue: 0,0:00:39.33,0:00:41.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a selection of the things \Nthat I used to say
Dialogue: 0,0:00:41.88,0:00:44.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when someone said the word vegan to me.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:44.56,0:00:46.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I also used to say \Nthat vegans were crazy
Dialogue: 0,0:00:46.93,0:00:49.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that no one should ever go vegan.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.53,0:00:51.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But now I am vegan.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:51.03,0:00:53.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so, how on earth did that happen?
Dialogue: 0,0:00:53.51,0:00:55.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a question I often ask myself,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:55.21,0:00:58.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so to try and understand\Nwhy it is that I'm now vegan,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:58.45,0:01:01.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to go through all the main\Narguments that I used to make
Dialogue: 0,0:01:01.49,0:01:04.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and show you why I changed my mind.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:04.27,0:01:07.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so, the first one:\N"It's personal choice."
Dialogue: 0,0:01:07.76,0:01:10.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can we morally justify not being vegan
Dialogue: 0,0:01:10.43,0:01:14.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by saying it's our personal choice\Nto consume animal products?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:14.38,0:01:15.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, interestingly, yes,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:15.71,0:01:18.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is our personal choice\Nto consume animal products
Dialogue: 0,0:01:18.80,0:01:22.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the same way that it is\Nour personal choice to abuse a dog
Dialogue: 0,0:01:22.46,0:01:24.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or beat a cat.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:24.18,0:01:27.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In essence, what I'm saying\Nis that every action that we make
Dialogue: 0,0:01:27.52,0:01:30.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is a choice that we\Npersonally choose to make.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.75,0:01:34.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so to imply that it's morally\Njustifiable to use animals
Dialogue: 0,0:01:34.14,0:01:35.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it's a personal choice
Dialogue: 0,0:01:35.88,0:01:38.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would mean that every action\Nthat we as humans can make
Dialogue: 0,0:01:38.81,0:01:40.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,must also be morally justifiable
Dialogue: 0,0:01:40.78,0:01:43.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because every action is a personal choice.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:44.26,0:01:46.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so, is it morally justifiable
Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.63,0:01:49.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to randomly assault a stranger\Non the street?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:49.85,0:01:53.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is it morally justifiable\Nto go to a shelter, rescue a dog,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:53.75,0:01:56.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bring them home\Nand then abuse them yourself?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:56.75,0:01:58.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No. Of course it's not.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:58.85,0:02:00.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because those choices have a victim,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:00.81,0:02:02.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,someone who suffers negatively
Dialogue: 0,0:02:02.58,0:02:05.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because of the personal choice\Nthat we have made.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:05.55,0:02:06.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so consequently,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:06.75,0:02:12.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the inclusion of a victim removes\Nany possibility for moral justification.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:12.11,0:02:15.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And besides, one of the reasons\Nthat I went vegan in the first place
Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.85,0:02:17.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was for personal choice.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:17.93,0:02:22.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The personal choice of the trillions of\Nanimals who are killed every single year.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:22.77,0:02:24.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Who have granted their choice?
Dialogue: 0,0:02:24.52,0:02:28.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They would just like to live their life\Nwithout human inflicted exploitation.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:28.98,0:02:33.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Remember, animals don't willfully walk\Nonto the kill floor of a slaughterhouse.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:33.66,0:02:36.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They are forced there against their will.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:36.43,0:02:39.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Any notion of choice \Nhas been removed for them,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.28,0:02:42.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so when we cite personal choice\Nas a justification,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:42.36,0:02:46.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whose personal choice are we considering,\Nother than our own?
Dialogue: 0,0:02:46.50,0:02:51.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if it is a choice,\Nthen why would we choose to be cruel?
Dialogue: 0,0:02:51.20,0:02:52.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so we might then think,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.52,0:02:56.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Yes, but the difference is\Nthese animals are bred for that purpose,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:56.73,0:02:59.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is why your example\Nof abusing a dog is disingenuous
Dialogue: 0,0:02:59.70,0:03:02.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because that's just needless suffering."
Dialogue: 0,0:03:02.25,0:03:03.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To which I would say, yes,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:03.51,0:03:06.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but most of us find dog fighting\Nto be morally abhorrent,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:06.60,0:03:11.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yet many dogs used in fighting\Nare bred specifically for that purpose.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:11.51,0:03:13.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Does it make it acceptable?
Dialogue: 0,0:03:13.25,0:03:14.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we might then say after that,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:14.77,0:03:17.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Yes, but dog fighting\Nis illegal in this country,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:17.68,0:03:20.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but farms and slaughterhouses\Nare allowed under law;
Dialogue: 0,0:03:20.46,0:03:22.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they are lawful practices."
Dialogue: 0,0:03:22.57,0:03:25.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But does legality equal morality?
Dialogue: 0,0:03:25.68,0:03:28.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is something acceptable\Njust because the law says so?
Dialogue: 0,0:03:28.96,0:03:30.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, if that was true,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:30.62,0:03:34.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then dog fighting would be moral\Nin the countries where it's legal.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:34.56,0:03:38.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if we apply that way of thinking,\Nlet's take it to a human situation.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:38.60,0:03:42.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is female genital mutilation\Na moral and acceptable practice
Dialogue: 0,0:03:42.31,0:03:44.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the countries\Nwhere it's legally condoned?
Dialogue: 0,0:03:44.76,0:03:47.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And let's take this argument\Nand this line of thinking
Dialogue: 0,0:03:47.30,0:03:50.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and apply it to the "culture\Nand tradition" excuse as well.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:50.94,0:03:54.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is it justifiable to kill dogs\Nduring the Yulin dog meat festival
Dialogue: 0,0:03:54.81,0:03:57.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because the festival is a cultural event?
Dialogue: 0,0:03:57.78,0:04:01.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is it justifiable to slaughter \Ndolphins in Japan
Dialogue: 0,0:04:01.31,0:04:05.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or pilot whales in the Faroe Islands\Nbecause those events are traditional?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:05.68,0:04:09.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And again, using that example\Nof female genital mutilation,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:09.61,0:04:14.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is it a moral practice simply\Nbecause it is cultural and traditional?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:14.63,0:04:18.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because the thing is if we try\Nto excuse using animals by saying,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:18.26,0:04:21.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Well, they form part of our culture\Nand can be used in our traditions,"
Dialogue: 0,0:04:21.77,0:04:23.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we therefore have to make
Dialogue: 0,0:04:23.26,0:04:27.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,every cultural and traditional action\Nand practice morally justifiable
Dialogue: 0,0:04:27.90,0:04:31.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,simply because they are cultural\Nand traditional practices.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:32.33,0:04:34.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so we might get\Nto the point where we say,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:34.53,0:04:36.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Well, that's all fair enough,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:36.13,0:04:38.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but the thing is we need to eat\Nanimal products to survive;
Dialogue: 0,0:04:38.93,0:04:41.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in fact, they are optimal to our diet."
Dialogue: 0,0:04:41.41,0:04:45.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so, the question becomes,\NAre animal products a necessity?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:45.61,0:04:47.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, the American Dietetic Association,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:47.77,0:04:51.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is the largest body of\Ndiet and nutrition professionals in the US
Dialogue: 0,0:04:51.48,0:04:55.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and is formed of over\Na 100,000 certified practitioners,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:55.35,0:04:57.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has categorically stated
Dialogue: 0,0:04:57.23,0:05:01.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that a vegan diet is healthy, safe\Nand nutritionally adequate
Dialogue: 0,0:05:01.35,0:05:07.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for all stages of life, including\Npregnancy, lactation and infancy.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:07.16,0:05:10.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is also supported\Nby the British Dietetic Association
Dialogue: 0,0:05:10.47,0:05:12.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as well as the NHS.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:12.89,0:05:17.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Furthermore, there is extensive\Nand conclusive research and evidence
Dialogue: 0,0:05:17.26,0:05:19.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that links our consumption\Nof animal products
Dialogue: 0,0:05:19.53,0:05:22.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to some of our leading\Ndiseases and illnesses,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:22.30,0:05:24.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,including heart disease,\Ncertain forms of cancer,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:24.97,0:05:27.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,type 2 diabetes, strokes.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:27.65,0:05:30.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The issue of thriving on a vegan diet
Dialogue: 0,0:05:30.31,0:05:33.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is not a contentious one\Nwithin the scientific community,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:33.91,0:05:38.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and therefore, consuming animal products\Nwill be deemed an unnecessary action.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:39.77,0:05:41.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so let's progress\Nthe argument and say,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:41.99,0:05:44.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Yes, but you're denying us of our nature!
Dialogue: 0,0:05:44.71,0:05:48.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,After all we are omnivores.\NHave you seen our canine teeth?
Dialogue: 0,0:05:48.04,0:05:49.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we've always eaten meat.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:49.69,0:05:54.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If your ancestors didn't eat meat,\Nyou wouldn't even be alive today."
Dialogue: 0,0:05:54.08,0:05:58.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so, to being with, many herbivorous\Nanimals do have canine teeth.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:58.15,0:06:00.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Take the saber-toothed deer as an example,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:00.73,0:06:05.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which means that canines\Ndon't necessarily equate to meat eating.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:05.57,0:06:07.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Furthermore, there's many people out there
Dialogue: 0,0:06:07.60,0:06:10.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that believe that biologically\Nand physiologically speaking,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:10.48,0:06:13.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our bodies are more closely aligned\Nto that of herbivorous animals
Dialogue: 0,0:06:13.75,0:06:16.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rather than omnivorous animals.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:16.13,0:06:19.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They point to the fact\Nthat our intestines are on average
Dialogue: 0,0:06:19.05,0:06:22.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,around three times longer\Nthan that of the average omnivore;
Dialogue: 0,0:06:22.57,0:06:26.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the fact that our jaws,\Nthey grind side to side when we chew,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:26.02,0:06:28.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like the jaws of herbivorous animals;
Dialogue: 0,0:06:28.00,0:06:30.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the fact that the\Nhydrochloric acid in our stomach
Dialogue: 0,0:06:30.67,0:06:35.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is comparatively weaker\Nto carnivores but also omnivores as well.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:36.25,0:06:38.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But personally,\NI find that entirely irrelevant.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:38.72,0:06:42.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't think it really matters\Nif we're herbivores or omnivores.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:42.13,0:06:44.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, just because\Nwe can physically do something
Dialogue: 0,0:06:44.80,0:06:47.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doesn't mean that we are\Nmorally justified to do so.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:47.93,0:06:52.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And because we don't have to eat meat,\Nthat means we can survive of plants.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:52.29,0:06:55.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So biologically speaking, \Nit makes no difference,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:55.35,0:06:57.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because we don't have to do it;
Dialogue: 0,0:06:57.50,0:06:59.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and therefore,\Nin the absence of necessity,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:59.86,0:07:03.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there is the absence\Nof justification as well.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:03.40,0:07:06.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so, I also think\Nit's a little bit logically dishonest,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:06.97,0:07:08.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a bit disingenuous,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:08.33,0:07:10.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we claim that we're somehow built
Dialogue: 0,0:07:10.15,0:07:12.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be intrinsically designed\Nto kill animals,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:12.32,0:07:16.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yet so many of us would\Nnever want to kill the animal ourself.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:16.56,0:07:19.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so, if we wouldn't want \Nto kill the animal ourself,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:19.70,0:07:23.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why is it acceptable to pay\Nfor someone else to do it on our behalf?
Dialogue: 0,0:07:23.81,0:07:25.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've always found it interesting
Dialogue: 0,0:07:25.50,0:07:28.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when I try and show someone\Nslaughterhouse footage and they say,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:28.62,0:07:31.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Don't show me that!\NThat's going to put me off my food."
Dialogue: 0,0:07:31.74,0:07:33.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then I say, Well, why?
Dialogue: 0,0:07:33.15,0:07:36.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why would seeing the process of\Nhow animal products arrive on your plate
Dialogue: 0,0:07:36.56,0:07:37.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,put you off consuming them?
Dialogue: 0,0:07:37.91,0:07:40.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That seems to make \Nlittle to no sense to me.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:40.42,0:07:42.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And also, why is it that we get upset
Dialogue: 0,0:07:42.37,0:07:45.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when we see footage of animals\Nbeing killed in gas chambers
Dialogue: 0,0:07:45.36,0:07:47.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or animals struggling to survive
Dialogue: 0,0:07:47.27,0:07:48.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as they desperately try to flee
Dialogue: 0,0:07:48.93,0:07:52.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the kill floor\Nthey're being forced onto?
Dialogue: 0,0:07:52.16,0:07:55.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let's take that idea of ancestors\Nand run with that for a moment
Dialogue: 0,0:07:55.17,0:07:58.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because our ancestors \Nused to do lots of horrible things.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:58.33,0:08:00.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They would rape. They would murder.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:00.78,0:08:03.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Are those actions\Nautomatically justified in society
Dialogue: 0,0:08:03.56,0:08:06.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,simply because our ancestors\Nused to commit them?
Dialogue: 0,0:08:06.46,0:08:07.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And besides,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:07.53,0:08:11.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why would we ever base our morality\Non the actions of a primitive society
Dialogue: 0,0:08:11.88,0:08:14.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where modern day notions\Nof right or wrong didn't exist
Dialogue: 0,0:08:14.88,0:08:16.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in the absence of choice
Dialogue: 0,0:08:16.40,0:08:20.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,consuming animals\Nwas a necessity for their survival?
Dialogue: 0,0:08:20.27,0:08:21.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let's take that argument.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:21.65,0:08:22.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because it's also pertinent
Dialogue: 0,0:08:22.94,0:08:26.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when we look at the "animals\Neat other animals" excuse as well.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:26.82,0:08:29.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just because a lion kills\Nand eats a gazelle
Dialogue: 0,0:08:29.51,0:08:32.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doesn't mean we're justified\Nto go to a supermarket and buy a steak.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:33.27,0:08:34.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lions are obligate carnivores,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:34.95,0:08:37.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,\Nwhich means they need\Nto eat meat to survive.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:37.61,0:08:40.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As we've already established: we don't.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:40.68,0:08:41.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And like before,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:41.78,0:08:45.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,\Nwhy would we ever base our morality\Non the actions of wild animals,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:45.47,0:08:47.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,\Nwho are consistently documented
Dialogue: 0,0:08:47.32,0:08:51.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as doing things that we would never\Ndeem acceptable within our own country
Dialogue: 0,0:08:51.76,0:08:55.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or, indeed, within our own\Nsociety in general?
Dialogue: 0,0:08:55.34,0:08:57.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the argument continued even further.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:57.27,0:09:00.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So let's run with the idea\Nof necessity and survival
Dialogue: 0,0:09:00.16,0:09:04.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I'm pretty sure that if a vegan\Nwas stranded on a desert island
Dialogue: 0,0:09:04.53,0:09:07.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the only thing\Nthey had to eat was an animal,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:07.01,0:09:09.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they would definitely do it.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:09.05,0:09:10.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so, the reality is
Dialogue: 0,0:09:10.90,0:09:14.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,no one knows how they'll react\Nin an extreme survival situation.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:14.35,0:09:16.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's really the point of the argument:
Dialogue: 0,0:09:16.26,0:09:18.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to make vegans seem hypocritical
Dialogue: 0,0:09:18.23,0:09:21.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,\Nif they say they might eat the animal\Nif they absolutely had to to survive.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:21.98,0:09:25.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But there's been documented cases\Nof humans cannibalising to survive.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:25.57,0:09:27.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was a plane crash in the Andes,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:27.36,0:09:29.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,\Nand the survivors of the plane crash lived
Dialogue: 0,0:09:29.90,0:09:33.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they cannibalised on the flesh\Nof the dead passengers.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:33.56,0:09:39.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so, cannibalism, in effect,\Nbecame a justifiable act in that moment.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:39.11,0:09:42.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Does it mean that cannibalism\Nis a justifiable act in everyday society?
Dialogue: 0,0:09:42.100,0:09:46.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Likewise, just because a vegan\Nmight consume an animal
Dialogue: 0,0:09:46.09,0:09:48.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if they absolutely had to to survive
Dialogue: 0,0:09:48.13,0:09:50.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doesn't mean that\Nconsuming animal products
Dialogue: 0,0:09:50.14,0:09:54.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is a morally justifiable act\Nin everyday society.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:54.85,0:09:57.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so the argument presses further,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:57.21,0:10:00.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we say, "Yes, but consuming animals\Nis part of the food chain.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:00.85,0:10:02.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, it's the circle of life:
Dialogue: 0,0:10:02.38,0:10:04.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everyone who is born must one day die,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:04.45,0:10:05.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's a natural process,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:05.83,0:10:09.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's symbiotic and harmonious to nature\Nand the world that we live in.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:09.80,0:10:11.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And our food chains\Nare incredibly important.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:11.90,0:10:17.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They symbolise part of the natural order\Nand help maintain and form ecosystems.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:17.74,0:10:19.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Fundamentally they are there
Dialogue: 0,0:10:19.27,0:10:22.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to ensure that population sizes\Nof animals are kept consistent
Dialogue: 0,0:10:22.75,0:10:26.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to ensure that the natural ecology\Nis just well balanced."
Dialogue: 0,0:10:27.03,0:10:30.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But what we do to animals\Nwhen we selectively breed them,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:30.78,0:10:32.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when we genetically modify them,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:32.73,0:10:36.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when we artificially inseminate\Nand forcibly impregnate them,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:36.26,0:10:38.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,\Nwhen we take their babies away from them,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:38.23,0:10:39.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when we mutilate them,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:39.43,0:10:42.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when we exploit them for what they\Nnaturally produce for their own species,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:42.96,0:10:45.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when we load them into trucks,\Ntake them to a slaughterhouse
Dialogue: 0,0:10:45.85,0:10:49.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where we hang them upside down,\Ncut their throat and bleed them to death
Dialogue: 0,0:10:49.27,0:10:52.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has nothing to do with a natural order,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:52.35,0:10:53.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and most importantly,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:53.48,0:10:58.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,\Nit fits none of the criteria required\Nto be labeled as a food chain.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:58.68,0:11:02.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You see, the food chain that we cite\Nis a human construct
Dialogue: 0,0:11:02.32,0:11:03.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,created very conveniently
Dialogue: 0,0:11:03.85,0:11:08.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to try and justify\Nwhat is an entirely unnecessary act.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:08.46,0:11:10.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It ignores the complexity,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:10.76,0:11:14.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an interdependent web of life\Nthat form our natural ecosystems.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:14.58,0:11:18.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is an appeal to nature fallacy\Nthat overlooks our ability
Dialogue: 0,0:11:18.06,0:11:22.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to make moral decisions\Nas beings who possess moral agency.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:22.70,0:11:23.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In essence,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:23.65,0:11:27.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,\Nthe food chain argument draws upon\Nthe idea of "might makes right,"
Dialogue: 0,0:11:27.89,0:11:29.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the belief that\Nbecause you have the ability
Dialogue: 0,0:11:29.93,0:11:32.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to physically exploit someone else,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:32.32,0:11:36.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're somehow \Njustified to do so as well.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:36.11,0:11:37.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the circle of life,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:38.09,0:11:42.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all that refers to is two moments\Nof our existence that are certain:
Dialogue: 0,0:11:42.07,0:11:43.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our birth and our death.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:43.42,0:11:46.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everyone who's born must one day\Ncome full circle and die.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:46.50,0:11:50.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But what happens between those areas\Nof certainty is variable
Dialogue: 0,0:11:50.96,0:11:53.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and has nothing to do\Nwith preordained circle of life.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:53.98,0:11:55.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If we run with that argument,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:55.83,0:11:58.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we'd be morally excused\Nto harm anyone at any time
Dialogue: 0,0:11:58.65,0:12:01.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,\Nin any manner that we so please.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:01.05,0:12:03.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We'd be morally excused\Nto murder an animal or, indeed,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:03.75,0:12:07.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,murder a human as well, \Nrunning with that logic.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:07.40,0:12:09.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so let's move this on\Nto a more practical note,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:09.81,0:12:14.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because if the world went vegan, well,\Nwhat would we do with all the animals?
Dialogue: 0,0:12:15.13,0:12:17.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We can't just release billions\Nof animals into the wild,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:17.79,0:12:20.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that'd be devastating\Nfor the natural ecology -
Dialogue: 0,0:12:20.23,0:12:22.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and of course it would.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:22.10,0:12:23.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But what we have to understand
Dialogue: 0,0:12:23.54,0:12:26.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that animal agriculture runs\Non a system of supply and demand,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:26.85,0:12:28.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,\Nmeaning that when we buy a product,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:28.83,0:12:31.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we demand that product be supplied.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:31.72,0:12:35.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, farmers will only breed animals \Ninto existence if they can sell.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:35.25,0:12:37.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're not going to breed them\Nif they can't sell them,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:37.89,0:12:40.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because that's just not\Neconomically viable in the slightest.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:40.94,0:12:43.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so the shift to veganism \Nwould of course be very gradual.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:43.88,0:12:46.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so as the number of vegans increases,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:46.45,0:12:50.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the number of animals being bred into\Nexistence would decrease proportionally.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:50.45,0:12:52.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if - and of course it is an if -
Dialogue: 0,0:12:52.73,0:12:54.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but if we ever get that vegan world,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:54.90,0:12:56.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that vegan world would be a world
Dialogue: 0,0:12:56.56,0:12:59.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,\Nwhere farmers are simply not breeding\Nanimals into existence anymore.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:59.92,0:13:02.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And as such, we will never be\Nfaced with the dilemma
Dialogue: 0,0:13:02.100,0:13:06.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of having to either release\Nbillions of animals into the wild
Dialogue: 0,0:13:06.42,0:13:10.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or take them to a slaughterhouse\Nso we simply discard their bodies.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:11.80,0:13:15.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,\N"But OK, OK, alright.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:15.16,0:13:17.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,\NI see what you're doing,\NI see where you're going,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:17.50,0:13:18.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but this is the problem.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:18.76,0:13:20.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You see, vegans are hypocrites.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:20.26,0:13:23.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Haven't you heard that small animals\Nsometimes die in the production of crops,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:23.94,0:13:27.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and therefore, you can't even\Nbe a 100% vegan?"
Dialogue: 0,0:13:27.13,0:13:28.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, it's true.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:28.50,0:13:31.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Animals like caterpillars and worms \Ndo die in the production of crops,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:31.90,0:13:35.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we also can't guarantee\Nthat small mammals like mice and rats
Dialogue: 0,0:13:35.95,0:13:38.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don't sometimes get killed as well.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:38.37,0:13:42.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the difference is that notion\Nof intention and certainty.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:42.22,0:13:45.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You see, when we buy an animal product,\Nwe're intentionally paying
Dialogue: 0,0:13:45.45,0:13:48.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,\Nfor someone to cause the suffering\Nand death of an animal.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:48.58,0:13:50.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is a certainty.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:50.03,0:13:52.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When we buy a plant product, we're not.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:52.45,0:13:54.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so think about it this way:
Dialogue: 0,0:13:54.06,0:13:58.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,\Nif you're driving down the road\Nand you accidentally run over a dog,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:58.06,0:14:00.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,morally, that is not the same
Dialogue: 0,0:14:00.15,0:14:03.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as if you were driving down the road, \Nsaw a dog, actively pursued them
Dialogue: 0,0:14:03.81,0:14:05.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,until you run them over.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:05.87,0:14:08.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the philosophy and ideology\Nbehind the argument
Dialogue: 0,0:14:08.55,0:14:11.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that it's morally justifiable\Nto buy animal products
Dialogue: 0,0:14:11.11,0:14:13.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because sometimes small animals\Ndie in crop production
Dialogue: 0,0:14:13.83,0:14:16.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,adheres to the idea that morally speaking,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:16.84,0:14:22.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,accidentally hitting the dog is the same\Nas intentionally hitting the dog.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:22.17,0:14:23.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"And so what about plants?
Dialogue: 0,0:14:23.92,0:14:25.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because plants are alive as well.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:25.52,0:14:29.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So why don't we consider plants\Nwithin our circle of moral compassion?"
Dialogue: 0,0:14:29.77,0:14:32.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so, plants are of course alive.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:32.43,0:14:34.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But they're not conscious.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:34.13,0:14:37.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They don't have a brain,\Ncentral nervous system or pain receptors,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:37.27,0:14:41.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but also more importantly,\Nit can take up to to 16kg of plants
Dialogue: 0,0:14:41.46,0:14:43.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to produce 1kg of animal flesh,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:43.93,0:14:45.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,\Nwhich means that vastly\Nmore plants are used
Dialogue: 0,0:14:45.98,0:14:49.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the production of a non-vegan diet\Nthan a vegan diet.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:49.02,0:14:51.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, if we care about plants,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:51.27,0:14:55.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,logically and morally,\Nwe're still obliged to be vegan.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:55.08,0:14:57.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this also ties in nicely\Nwith what we were just saying
Dialogue: 0,0:14:57.80,0:14:59.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about animals being killed\Nin crop production.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:59.98,0:15:02.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because if more crops are used\Nin a non-vegan diet,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:02.80,0:15:06.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that means if we care about small animals\Nbeing killed in crop production,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:06.36,0:15:11.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we're again logically and morally \Nobliged to still be vegan.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:11.53,0:15:13.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"But what about soy farming?
Dialogue: 0,0:15:13.47,0:15:17.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because soy farming is devastating\Nfor the environment, is it not?"
Dialogue: 0,0:15:17.10,0:15:19.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Soy farming is terrible \Nfor the environment.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:19.76,0:15:23.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But that's only because 70 to 85%\Nof all the soy that is grown
Dialogue: 0,0:15:23.73,0:15:25.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is fed to livestock animals.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:25.48,0:15:31.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In fact, it's predicted that as little\Nas 6% could be used for human consumption.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:31.46,0:15:33.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's not even\Nabout vegans eating tofu.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:33.86,0:15:37.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because soya is ubiquitous \Namong nearly everyone's diet.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:37.56,0:15:42.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's found in breads and cereals, sauces, \Nchocolates and so much more as well.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:42.47,0:15:43.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So then we say,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:43.80,0:15:48.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,\N"But do we have to be vegan?\NI mean, vegetarian? I get it.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:48.05,0:15:50.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,\NBut animals don't die\Nin the production of dairy and eggs,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:50.80,0:15:53.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,\Nso surely being vegetarian is enough?"
Dialogue: 0,0:15:53.77,0:15:56.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Simply put - no, it's not.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:56.33,0:16:00.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the egg industry, male chicks are\Nuseless because they won't produce eggs.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:00.38,0:16:04.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They also won't grow to be the same size\Nas the chickens that we kill for meat,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:04.38,0:16:06.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which means that as soon as they are born,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:06.60,0:16:10.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,\Nthey're thrown into a giant\Nmacerator, minced up alive,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:10.18,0:16:13.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,\Nor they're thrown into a gas chamber\Nand gassed to death.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:13.85,0:16:15.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All egg laying hens as well
Dialogue: 0,0:16:15.61,0:16:19.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,\Nwill be sent to a slaughterhouse\Nafter around 72 weeks of life,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:19.52,0:16:22.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when their bodies are fully depleted\Nfrom being overly exploited
Dialogue: 0,0:16:22.88,0:16:25.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,\Nand they're no longer\Nprofitable to the farmer.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:25.82,0:16:27.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the dairy industry,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:27.17,0:16:30.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,\Ndairy cows will only produce milk\Nto feed their children.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:30.14,0:16:32.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They are mammals, just as we are.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:32.13,0:16:36.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so this means that farmers forcibly\Nimpregnate dairy cows year after year
Dialogue: 0,0:16:36.30,0:16:39.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to ensure a continuous cycle\Nand production of milk
Dialogue: 0,0:16:39.13,0:16:42.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is there for him to sell, or her to sell.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:42.40,0:16:44.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When the dairy cow gives birth,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:44.86,0:16:47.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the baby will be\Ntaken away from the mother,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:47.16,0:16:50.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,normally within 24 hours of birth.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:50.33,0:16:53.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Male dairy calves are useless\Nto the dairy industry.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:53.64,0:16:58.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so this means that approximately\N95,000 male dairy calves are killed
Dialogue: 0,0:16:58.10,0:17:01.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,shortly after birth in this country alone,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:01.80,0:17:04.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,normally by being shot in the head.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:04.38,0:17:06.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is because they won't produce milk.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:06.60,0:17:10.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's sometimes not profitable enough\Nto be sold on for beef.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:10.23,0:17:13.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The female cows will be raised,\Nand they too will join the herd,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:13.42,0:17:16.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where they'll be forcibly \Nimpregnated year after year
Dialogue: 0,0:17:16.10,0:17:20.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and all dairy cows are sent\Nto the slaughterhouse as well.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:20.62,0:17:25.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Which means that dairy and eggs\Nare pretty much the same as meat.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:25.65,0:17:29.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But potentially even worse\Nbecause the animals suffer for longer,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:29.65,0:17:32.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and yet they still are killed\Nin the same way.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:32.85,0:17:34.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so let's talk about humane slaughter.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:34.96,0:17:36.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is something we often hear
Dialogue: 0,0:17:36.49,0:17:39.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when we talk about the killing\Nof animals in slaughterhouses.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:39.89,0:17:43.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, the word "humane" means having\Nor showing compassion or benevolence,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:43.81,0:17:47.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which means that humane slaughter \Nis of course an oxymoron
Dialogue: 0,0:17:47.11,0:17:52.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because you can never compassionately\Nor benevolently take the life of an animal
Dialogue: 0,0:17:52.05,0:17:56.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who does not wish to die\Nand who does not have to die.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:56.82,0:18:00.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so that brings us on\Nto our final excuse:
Dialogue: 0,0:18:00.28,0:18:02.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,taste.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:02.05,0:18:05.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so I want to leave you \Nwith a couple of questions.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:05.16,0:18:09.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What has higher value:\Ntaste or life?
Dialogue: 0,0:18:09.46,0:18:14.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do we require more than sensory pleasure\Nalone to morally justify an action?
Dialogue: 0,0:18:14.90,0:18:19.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Remember that a meal to us\Nlasts only a matter of minutes,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:19.15,0:18:23.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but that meal has cost\Nan animal their entire life.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:23.07,0:18:26.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We take their life\Nfor a moment that is fleeting,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:26.98,0:18:32.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a meal that we forget about\Nalmost as soon as we have consumed it.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:32.95,0:18:35.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I used to think that vegans\Nforce their views.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:35.48,0:18:37.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I said this regularly.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:37.03,0:18:41.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But one day I realised\Nthat nothing can ever be as forceful
Dialogue: 0,0:18:41.13,0:18:44.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as taking the life of someone\Nwho does not wish to die,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:44.30,0:18:48.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,taking the life of an animal\Nwho does not wish to die.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:48.84,0:18:51.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so in the end,\Nthat's why I became vegan.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:51.70,0:18:55.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because when put into perspective,\Nmy arguments held no veracity,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:55.88,0:18:58.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,no credibility, no validity.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:58.38,0:19:01.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Fundamentally, I called myself\Nan animal lover,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:01.50,0:19:05.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yet I paid for animals to suffer\Nand die on my behalf.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:05.81,0:19:08.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Through all of the excuses I used to make,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:08.03,0:19:11.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I realised that my values\Ncontradicted my actions,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:11.43,0:19:15.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and deep down, I could \Nfind no real justification.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:15.80,0:19:17.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you so much for listening.\N
Dialogue: 0,0:19:17.46,0:19:20.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Applause)