1 00:00:21,654 --> 00:00:25,904 抗生素是二十世纪的仙丹 2 00:00:25,904 --> 00:00:29,158 神奇的抗生素 3 00:00:29,158 --> 00:00:33,346 让人类平均寿命延长约十年 4 00:00:33,914 --> 00:00:37,960 但是我们现在正遭逢一项全球危机 5 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,640 抗生物正在失去 6 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:42,579 它对感染性疾病的疗效 7 00:00:43,532 --> 00:00:46,717 如果看得到标题就会觉得非常耸动 8 00:00:48,783 --> 00:00:51,079 细菌正快速地 9 00:00:51,079 --> 00:00:53,963 对现行使用的抗生素产生抗药性 10 00:00:53,963 --> 00:00:57,320 为了要真正了解这个问题 11 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,249 你必须先了解细菌 12 00:01:00,787 --> 00:01:04,076 我们居住在一个充满细菌的世界 13 00:01:04,430 --> 00:01:06,558 细菌无所不在 14 00:01:06,558 --> 00:01:09,064 你所见的地方 15 00:01:09,064 --> 00:01:10,194 所接触的地方 16 00:01:10,194 --> 00:01:12,076 所有你吃的东西 17 00:01:12,076 --> 00:01:14,232 所有你坐的椅子 18 00:01:14,232 --> 00:01:18,104 都被数以百万的细菌覆盖 19 00:01:18,688 --> 00:01:20,012 它们很小 20 00:01:20,012 --> 00:01:22,757 所以需要显微镜才能看到它们 21 00:01:22,757 --> 00:01:25,646 但它们确实存在,而且可说是无所不在 22 00:01:25,652 --> 00:01:28,890 你可以在最深的海底中找到它们 23 00:01:28,890 --> 00:01:31,011 你可以在最高的山巅上找到它们 24 00:01:31,011 --> 00:01:33,288 你甚至可以在极区的冰帽中找到它们 25 00:01:33,672 --> 00:01:37,022 它们可以存活在没有阳光 26 00:01:37,035 --> 00:01:39,906 没有氧气,没有食物的地方 27 00:01:39,926 --> 00:01:43,129 它们可以在放射性废物 28 00:01:43,129 --> 00:01:44,742 毒化学药品 29 00:01:44,742 --> 00:01:48,548 和滚烫的温泉中生长 30 00:01:49,609 --> 00:01:52,872 当细菌发现适合生存的地方时 31 00:01:52,872 --> 00:01:56,114 它们会快速增殖到很高的数目 32 00:01:56,207 --> 00:01:59,423 其中一个细菌喜欢生长的地方 33 00:01:59,423 --> 00:02:01,338 就是人体 34 00:02:01,477 --> 00:02:03,947 最近根据微生物学家的研究 35 00:02:03,947 --> 00:02:07,483 发现人体内或表面 36 00:02:07,483 --> 00:02:10,319 存在超过万种微生物 37 00:02:10,319 --> 00:02:14,255 事实上,你身体内的细菌细胞 38 00:02:14,255 --> 00:02:15,658 数量高于人体细胞 39 00:02:15,658 --> 00:02:17,926 而来自细菌的基因 40 00:02:17,926 --> 00:02:19,295 也比人体本身的基因多 41 00:02:19,295 --> 00:02:21,998 所以你可以说 42 00:02:21,998 --> 00:02:24,953 你比较像细菌而不是人类 43 00:02:25,383 --> 00:02:26,503 (笑声) 44 00:02:26,503 --> 00:02:29,332 所以既然我们都确定了 45 00:02:29,332 --> 00:02:31,200 我是在对整房间的细菌演讲 46 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:32,234 (笑声) 47 00:02:32,234 --> 00:02:34,149 我要吹捧听众一下 48 00:02:34,149 --> 00:02:38,291 说:“细菌真是令人惊奇的生物。” 49 00:02:38,521 --> 00:02:41,795 其中一个让人惊叹的地方 50 00:02:41,795 --> 00:02:44,546 是它们分享彼此基因的能力 51 00:02:45,316 --> 00:02:47,564 现在我要对此多加描述 52 00:02:47,564 --> 00:02:50,246 因为这就是细菌产生 53 00:02:50,246 --> 00:02:53,100 抗药性的原因 54 00:02:55,007 --> 00:02:56,402 既然我没有投影片 55 00:02:56,402 --> 00:02:58,377 我只好描述给你们听 56 00:03:00,239 --> 00:03:02,105 你们大概都知道 57 00:03:02,105 --> 00:03:04,854 你的身体由基因决定 58 00:03:04,854 --> 00:03:07,688 例如,你很高或有蓝色眼睛 59 00:03:07,688 --> 00:03:09,694 那是因为你有长高 60 00:03:09,694 --> 00:03:11,526 或蓝色眼睛的基因 61 00:03:11,526 --> 00:03:14,930 以此类推,能存活在南极洲的细菌 62 00:03:14,930 --> 00:03:16,805 具有抵抗寒冷的基因 63 00:03:16,805 --> 00:03:19,970 而能免被青徽素毒杀的细菌 64 00:03:19,970 --> 00:03:23,237 具有抗青徽素的基因 65 00:03:24,421 --> 00:03:26,053 所以这些基因从何而来? 66 00:03:26,053 --> 00:03:28,579 嗯,你们可能对人类比较熟悉 67 00:03:28,579 --> 00:03:31,220 人类从父母亲中 68 00:03:31,220 --> 00:03:32,816 得到一组基因 69 00:03:32,816 --> 00:03:34,985 而且这组基因会伴随着人的一生 70 00:03:34,985 --> 00:03:38,688 举例:如果你生下来就有棕色眼睛 71 00:03:38,688 --> 00:03:41,220 既使你很想要有蓝色眼睛 72 00:03:41,220 --> 00:03:44,161 你眼睛颜色在一生中仍不会有所改变 73 00:03:44,161 --> 00:03:46,805 因为这是写在你与生俱来的基因上 74 00:03:47,405 --> 00:03:49,393 但细菌就不同了 75 00:03:49,409 --> 00:03:52,090 它们习惯用一些奇妙的方式 76 00:03:52,090 --> 00:03:54,719 彼此交换基因 77 00:03:54,719 --> 00:03:56,497 而其中一种 78 00:03:56,497 --> 00:03:59,435 细菌交换基因的方式 79 00:03:59,435 --> 00:04:02,743 就是从所在周遭环境取得 80 00:04:03,389 --> 00:04:05,984 而且这通常在邻近细菌死亡时进行 81 00:04:05,984 --> 00:04:10,040 我们就把这个方式称为‘葬礼抓斗’ 82 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,790 一号细菌死亡 83 00:04:12,790 --> 00:04:15,516 并把它的基因释放到环境中, 84 00:04:15,516 --> 00:04:18,549 二号细菌会走过来拿一些基因 85 00:04:18,549 --> 00:04:20,056 并吞下去 86 00:04:20,056 --> 00:04:23,801 现在二号细菌就可以做 87 00:04:23,801 --> 00:04:26,330 一些原本只有一号细菌才能做的事 88 00:04:26,330 --> 00:04:29,176 这就好像你参加 89 00:04:29,176 --> 00:04:31,706 某位有蓝眼睛人的丧礼, 90 00:04:31,706 --> 00:04:33,907 你从骨灰盒中拿起一些灰烬 91 00:04:33,907 --> 00:04:35,321 并吞下去 92 00:04:35,321 --> 00:04:37,686 然后,你的眼睛就变成蓝色的了。 93 00:04:37,686 --> 00:04:39,869 但换个角度想, 若你得到的不是蓝眼睛, 94 00:04:39,869 --> 00:04:42,507 而是对四环霉素的抗药性。 95 00:04:43,706 --> 00:04:45,675 另外一种细菌 96 00:04:45,675 --> 00:04:47,813 可以交换基因的方式是透过病毒。 97 00:04:48,474 --> 00:04:51,746 没错,细菌也会感冒, 98 00:04:51,792 --> 00:04:54,751 而且有很多种病毒可以感染细菌, 99 00:04:54,751 --> 00:04:58,549 我们把这方法称作‘病毒传递’ 100 00:04:58,949 --> 00:05:01,368 一个病毒感染一号细菌, 101 00:05:01,368 --> 00:05:03,127 带走一些它的基因 102 00:05:03,127 --> 00:05:05,998 并将其注入到二号细菌内 103 00:05:05,998 --> 00:05:08,734 现在二号菌可以做一些 104 00:05:08,734 --> 00:05:11,434 之前只有一号细菌能做的事 105 00:05:11,434 --> 00:05:13,873 这就好像 你被一个蓝眼睛的人 106 00:05:13,873 --> 00:05:15,465 传染了感冒。 107 00:05:15,465 --> 00:05:18,384 被传染后, 你的眼睛也变蓝色了。 108 00:05:19,046 --> 00:05:21,117 换个角度想, 你得到的不是蓝眼睛, 109 00:05:21,117 --> 00:05:23,469 而是对甲烯土霉素的抗药性。 110 00:05:24,516 --> 00:05:28,220 第三种细菌交换基因的方式是通过性行为 111 00:05:28,220 --> 00:05:30,131 没错,细菌也有性生活 112 00:05:30,131 --> 00:05:31,992 而且它们还乐此不疲 113 00:05:31,992 --> 00:05:34,947 我们可以把这个方式称作‘爱的礼物’ 114 00:05:34,947 --> 00:05:36,510 (笑声) 115 00:05:36,510 --> 00:05:38,799 身为提供者的一号细菌, 116 00:05:38,799 --> 00:05:42,270 会建造一座桥梁 连接接受者也就是二号菌 117 00:05:42,270 --> 00:05:43,732 通过提供者传给接受者的基因 118 00:05:43,732 --> 00:05:45,683 通过提供者传给接受者的基因 119 00:05:45,683 --> 00:05:48,299 这和你所熟知的性行为很像 120 00:05:48,299 --> 00:05:50,620 但是在性行为之后, 121 00:05:50,620 --> 00:05:52,854 二号细菌可以做一些 122 00:05:52,854 --> 00:05:56,316 在性行为前只有一号细菌能做的事 123 00:05:56,592 --> 00:05:59,496 所以这就像是, 你和蓝眼睛的人发生关系 124 00:05:59,496 --> 00:06:02,312 之后你的眼睛也变成蓝色了。 125 00:06:02,312 --> 00:06:03,720 (笑声) 126 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,036 换个角度想, 若你得到的不是蓝眼睛, 127 00:06:06,036 --> 00:06:08,787 而是对万古霉素的抗药性。 128 00:06:08,787 --> 00:06:09,779 (笑声) 129 00:06:09,779 --> 00:06:11,894 所以细菌有很多不同的方式 130 00:06:11,894 --> 00:06:13,362 可以在彼此间交换基因 131 00:06:13,362 --> 00:06:16,963 而跟你身体里的 132 00:06:16,963 --> 00:06:18,581 成千上万的细菌, 133 00:06:18,581 --> 00:06:22,014 更别提你目光所及的 数以十万计的细菌 134 00:06:22,014 --> 00:06:24,066 这是个庞大的社群 135 00:06:24,066 --> 00:06:27,504 分享抗药性基因的地方 136 00:06:28,119 --> 00:06:31,345 为了了解抗药性, 137 00:06:31,345 --> 00:06:34,314 你必须先知道抗生素如何生效 138 00:06:34,667 --> 00:06:40,922 人和细菌有诸多不同 139 00:06:40,922 --> 00:06:43,549 这表示细菌中有许多部份 140 00:06:43,549 --> 00:06:45,633 可以做为化学药物的标靶 141 00:06:45,633 --> 00:06:48,381 抗生素是了不起的药物 142 00:06:48,381 --> 00:06:51,831 因为它们能辨认 143 00:06:52,107 --> 00:06:55,522 细菌特有 而人类没有的地方, 144 00:06:55,522 --> 00:06:57,141 达到杀死细菌又不伤身的目的 145 00:06:57,141 --> 00:06:59,250 就好像钥匙和锁一样 146 00:06:59,250 --> 00:07:02,150 专一性地找目标,与目标结合 147 00:07:02,150 --> 00:07:04,671 导致细菌的死亡 148 00:07:05,825 --> 00:07:07,335 但是细菌也演化出一些 149 00:07:07,335 --> 00:07:09,342 不同的防御机制 150 00:07:09,342 --> 00:07:11,282 以免自己被抗生素死亡 151 00:07:11,282 --> 00:07:13,090 我们现在就来谈谈三种 152 00:07:13,090 --> 00:07:14,862 细菌抵御的机制 153 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,806 第一种我们称为‘排毒作用’ 154 00:07:18,006 --> 00:07:21,035 抗生素针对细菌胞内 155 00:07:21,035 --> 00:07:23,157 特殊的地方 156 00:07:23,157 --> 00:07:25,407 但是,一但抗生素进入胞内, 157 00:07:25,407 --> 00:07:27,241 细菌就很快将它排出 158 00:07:27,241 --> 00:07:29,483 防止药物找到目标 159 00:07:29,514 --> 00:07:31,944 这就是细菌用来 160 00:07:31,944 --> 00:07:33,996 抵御四环霉素的机制 161 00:07:34,380 --> 00:07:37,018 另一种机制我们称为‘匿踪模式’ 162 00:07:37,018 --> 00:07:42,055 抗生素专一地辨认细菌细胞, 163 00:07:42,362 --> 00:07:45,808 而细菌若将辨识位置稍作改变, 164 00:07:45,823 --> 00:07:48,490 就可让抗生素无法辨识 165 00:07:48,490 --> 00:07:50,030 目标进入匿踪模式 166 00:07:50,030 --> 00:07:51,929 抗生素就失去做用 167 00:07:51,929 --> 00:07:54,100 细菌也就具有抗药性 168 00:07:54,253 --> 00:07:56,966 细菌就是用这个机制 169 00:07:56,966 --> 00:07:59,674 对抗链霉素 170 00:07:59,766 --> 00:08:03,906 第三种方式我们称作‘飞弹防御系统’ 171 00:08:03,906 --> 00:08:05,845 细菌制造一种武器 172 00:08:05,845 --> 00:08:07,773 在抗生素找到作用标的前 173 00:08:07,773 --> 00:08:10,281 先找到它 174 00:08:10,758 --> 00:08:13,553 细菌发射一波波的防御飞弹 175 00:08:13,553 --> 00:08:14,878 瓦解抗生素, 176 00:08:14,878 --> 00:08:16,460 让细菌得以存活 177 00:08:16,460 --> 00:08:19,023 这是细菌实际用来对抗 178 00:08:19,023 --> 00:08:21,232 青霉素的策略。 179 00:08:21,570 --> 00:08:23,198 所以你知道细菌有 180 00:08:23,198 --> 00:08:24,641 很多简单而有效的方式 181 00:08:24,641 --> 00:08:27,034 可以避免细菌被抗生素毒杀 182 00:08:27,034 --> 00:08:30,729 包含:排毒作用、匿踪模式 183 00:08:30,772 --> 00:08:32,440 和防御飞弹 184 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:34,802 而抗药性基因 185 00:08:34,802 --> 00:08:36,940 则在细菌间传递 186 00:08:36,940 --> 00:08:41,026 方式有:葬礼抓起、病毒传递、和爱的礼物。 187 00:08:41,026 --> 00:08:44,686 想想细菌的重要特性: 188 00:08:44,686 --> 00:08:46,039 它们很小、 189 00:08:46,039 --> 00:08:49,307 分裂快速并会传递基因 190 00:08:49,308 --> 00:08:52,025 你身体里充满 191 00:08:52,025 --> 00:08:55,141 十几万只善良、无辜的细菌 192 00:08:55,141 --> 00:08:56,630 它们对你无害 193 00:08:56,630 --> 00:09:00,853 它们住你身体这个安详、封闭的小区。 194 00:09:00,853 --> 00:09:02,142 (笑声) 195 00:09:02,142 --> 00:09:04,079 让我们设想: 196 00:09:04,079 --> 00:09:06,062 有几只坏菌入侵小区 197 00:09:06,062 --> 00:09:08,805 开始制造麻烦、 做些让人讨厌的事、 198 00:09:08,805 --> 00:09:11,473 放震耳欲聋的音乐、 或把垃圾丢到邻居家里 199 00:09:11,490 --> 00:09:12,988 你感到不适, 200 00:09:12,988 --> 00:09:14,289 然后去看医生 201 00:09:14,289 --> 00:09:16,644 你拿了些抗生素,也吃了些 202 00:09:16,659 --> 00:09:19,461 抗生素把大部份的坏菌都杀死 203 00:09:19,461 --> 00:09:21,875 也让许多好菌陪葬 204 00:09:21,907 --> 00:09:23,664 所以你觉得舒服多了, 205 00:09:23,664 --> 00:09:27,627 就在疗程结束前自行停药 206 00:09:27,627 --> 00:09:29,465 接下来会发生什么事呢? 207 00:09:29,465 --> 00:09:33,331 嗯,让我们假设: 其中一只好菌已经产生了抗药性 208 00:09:33,331 --> 00:09:35,936 当它大半的邻居死于 209 00:09:35,936 --> 00:09:37,974 这场抗生素浩劫时, 210 00:09:37,974 --> 00:09:41,078 它快速地分裂以占据空房子 211 00:09:41,078 --> 00:09:44,147 为求胜利, 在任何战争中 212 00:09:44,470 --> 00:09:47,521 我们都需研发更新、更强的武器 213 00:09:47,521 --> 00:09:49,973 以战胜敌人 214 00:09:50,220 --> 00:09:52,807 在我们还有武器可用的现在, 215 00:09:52,807 --> 00:09:55,310 也是发展新抗生素的时机 216 00:09:55,341 --> 00:09:58,103 这是一个需要持久地付出的任务 217 00:09:58,103 --> 00:10:00,358 你可以把它想象成 218 00:10:00,358 --> 00:10:02,542 是一场有关 全世界健康的军备竞赛 219 00:10:02,574 --> 00:10:05,410 在经费支持之下, 220 00:10:05,410 --> 00:10:07,811 新的抗生素可以不断被研发出来, 221 00:10:07,811 --> 00:10:10,010 并推行到市场上 222 00:10:10,010 --> 00:10:11,549 你可以预期, 223 00:10:11,549 --> 00:10:16,042 细菌终究会对新的药物产生抗药性 224 00:10:16,042 --> 00:10:19,535 但这时候, 会有更新的抗生素可以使用 225 00:10:19,536 --> 00:10:21,225 一个严肃的事实是 226 00:10:21,225 --> 00:10:23,061 在这房间中的一些人 227 00:10:23,061 --> 00:10:24,467 今天之所以能坐在这里, 228 00:10:24,467 --> 00:10:26,496 是因为过去 229 00:10:26,496 --> 00:10:28,487 抗生素曾经救过你 230 00:10:28,487 --> 00:10:32,327 我们要避免回到 没有抗生素可用的时代, 231 00:10:32,332 --> 00:10:34,466 那时一些像是割伤、抓伤、 232 00:10:34,466 --> 00:10:36,855 或是喉咙痛 233 00:10:36,861 --> 00:10:38,399 这些寻常的细菌感染 234 00:10:38,399 --> 00:10:41,038 都可能致命 235 00:10:41,038 --> 00:10:44,258 因此,拥有新的抗生素, 236 00:10:44,258 --> 00:10:46,377 我们能在对抗超级细菌时 237 00:10:46,377 --> 00:10:49,112 持续保有优势 238 00:10:49,112 --> 00:10:50,360 谢谢大家。 239 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,483 (掌声)