1 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 [Talk meister] Grab a seat please, there's lots of seats around here, or there. 2 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It's my pleasure to introduce our current and new DPL, 3 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Neil McGovern for his annual bits from the DPL 4 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 [Applause] 5 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 [Neil] Thanks very much, hi everyone. 6 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I'm aware that this talk is due to cut in to lunch so I'll try and keep it slightly 7 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 ... in to dinner, so I'll keep it slightly more refined [laughter] 8 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 so people can get their food early. 9 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Hopefully everyone's ok with that anyway. 10 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I'm also kind of glad that it's in this slot when it was originally proposed 11 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and I got my initial time slot it was going to be a 9am slot just after the 12 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 cheese and wine party so I [laughter] 13 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 probably wouldn't expect quite so many people as we have here today. 14 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So, welcome everyone, this final day of the open weekend. Anyone who isn't a 15 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 regular person, hi and welcome to Debian! 16 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Welcome to the huge Debian family which is certainly growing all the time and 17 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 is something that's really good to see. 18 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It's quite fantastic that there's just so many people involved, especially this year 19 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 When I last checked the stats I think we had 383 people who had so far checked in 20 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 slightly less than for DebConf 7, but I'm certain... [laughter] 21 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I'm certain over the next few days that'll go up and definitely surpass us. 22 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I just want to remind everyone what the size of the project we are. 23 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It's such a huge effort, one of the biggest open source and free software 24 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 projects in the world. 25 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Combining around 1000 developers, a few thousand maintainers and contributors as 26 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 well, and also our users. 27 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It's really a huge effort that we manage to still be here after 22 years and still 28 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 be going strong. 29 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Hopefully a DebConf in future will look a little bit like that 30 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I think the orga team might be slightly more stressed if we end up with numbers 31 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 but what a fantastic thing. 32 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Also over the last few years we've had 42 new project members have joined us. 33 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 This is over the last year, we've had all these people. 34 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Huge welcome to everyone there. [Applause] 35 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Especially one or two on there which I decided to get back into doing application 36 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 management, especially for our non- uploading developers as well, which has 37 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 been a huge boost to really grow where we're going. 38 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Also welcome back. I've noticed a few people this year who I haven't seen in a 39 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 few years, so stand up if you've been away for a few years and you're returning 40 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I know there's certainly some people, excellent, 41 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Tolimar? [laughter] There he is! [Applause] 42 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Kris Rose? Is he here? [points] Excellent. 43 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Was active before I even joined Debian, and essentially has come back again, so 44 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 it's great to see everyone back and thanks very much for remembering us. 45 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 There's been a few new people as well. 46 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Very, very new people who I haven't kinda seen around before in previous DebConfs 47 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Where did all these children come from? I think there must have been something... 48 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 [laughter] 49 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I think the Switzerland DebConf, there might have been something in the water, 50 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 because it's suddenly been a huge... it's absolutely fantastic to see not only 51 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 our usual developers around, but their families as well, and new people being 52 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 introduced to Debian and to technology. 53 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 The TecKids workshops I think are absolutely fantastic initiative I think 54 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that really helps broaden Debian and what we do. 55 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So, when I first became DPL, I always knew Debian was a big thing in free software, 56 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 in the communities and things we do. 57 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I went along to my running club 58 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and we went for a run, 59 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 went to the pub afterwards as you do in the UK, 60 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 you can't have sport without excessive alcohol consumption afterwards so it seems 61 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and about 7 or 8 people all came up to me 62 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and said "Hey, congratulations on being DPL, I'm going to buy you a pint!", which 63 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 [laughter] 64 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 which is great 65 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So if anyone wants to run for DPL you get free beer, this is a good thing. 66 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 But it did really impress on me that 67 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Debian's a big deal, it's a really huge deal. 68 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 If you have a look at some of the latest server stats for web servers, 69 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Debian's number one. 70 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It's about 32% of Linux distributions, and and if you combine Ubuntu as well, and 71 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 all our derivatives, we're about 62% of all linux servers out there 72 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Basically Debian really does run the world 73 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Not only that, but the amount of embedded devices that Debian's involved with 74 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 from, as mentioned before, the HP talk, running huge teleco systems 75 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to assistive devices. I know Andy's around somewhere. 76 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 That product is essentially being based on Debian and it's a speak and spell type 77 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 device. 78 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It's for people who can't talk. 79 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 You have a little keyboard, you type in what you want to say, it has predictive 80 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 technology in there, and then it gives people a voice. 81 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Debian is literally being used to give people voices who can't speak. 82 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 This is the sort of impact that Debian have, and free software can have 83 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 on the world. 84 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 A few things happened, certainly over the last year. 85 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Apparently we released. 86 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I was only DPL for about a week, but I'm going to take credit for this 87 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 like any good politician, anyway. [laughter] 88 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I've already had a stable release. 89 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 This has hugely welcomed. 90 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I don't know if anyone followed the DevOps Reactions tumblr page, but they were 91 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 following along and huge cheers from everyone when Debian releases. 92 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It is a big deal. 93 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Strangely I also saw a press release that that said they're 94 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 having a party to celebrate the release of Debian 8 at Linux Fest North West, 95 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 But this press release was from Microsoft [laughter] 96 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I thought it might be a spoof at first, but I diligently checked the certificates 97 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and domains and made sure it went back. 98 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I think people, certainly large organisations are realising now that this 99 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 open source, free software thing isn't going away 100 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 This isn't something that they can just ignore, or they can fight against. 101 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 This is something that they have to embrace 102 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Certainly for someone like Microsoft to throw away a load of cake and do a press 103 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 release because Debian's released is something I never thought I'd see when I 104 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 first joined the Debian Project. 105 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 We've had some new good things which have started recently as well 106 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Fantastic areas if anyone knows what this might be for a current initiative that's 107 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 going on? 108 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 [Picture of four similar potted plants] 109 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I was trying to do reproducible builds. 110 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 They all sort of look the same, so near enough [laughter] 111 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It's the nearest I could find on Flickr to something being reproducible. 112 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 These are all CC by the way. 113 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So this is perhaps a bit of a better slide to explain just how impressive it is 114 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 where we've got. 115 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I don't know if everyone here's aware of reproducible builds and what this is 116 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 trying to do, and the importance of it. 117 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 When you get a source package 118 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and you produce a binary from that 119 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 there hasn't traditionally been a way of knowing that what you've produced here 120 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 comes from this source package and it hasn't been tampered with. 121 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 This is incredibly important for the trust that people have in Debian 122 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and how we produce things 123 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So if we're able to say "Look, this thing here has definitely come from here, 124 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 look we've rebuilt it again, you can check for yourself, it comes from here.", 125 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 then people can trust Debian as this platform for where we run everyone's 126 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 computers. 127 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I'm quite impressed with the remarkable progress we've seen here. 128 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 From zero to a huge share of things being reproducable and that work I'm sure will 129 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 continue, especially thanks to the Linux Foundation's grants as well in supporting 130 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 this progress. 131 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I did a "ask me anything" recently and it was one of the things that came up as 132 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 being a hugely popular thing that Debian is doing and that we're driving forward. 133 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Not just for Debian itself but for all distributions and making sure we're 134 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 able to do that. 135 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Interestingly I was also asked what I'm most jealous of other distributions and 136 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I think I said the Arch wiki because it is pretty good. [laughter] 137 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Often when I'm on #debian and answering questions then it comes up with the best 138 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 answers a lot of the time. 139 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 But, hey, I'm rubbish at writing documentation so... 140 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Another effort we've come up with is ddebs 141 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Ability to automatically have debug symbols 142 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Something which a few other distributions have had for a while and it's really, 143 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 really good to see that this sort of effort is happening as well. 144 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 If Niels is around.... well done! [applause] 145 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Not the only one but. 146 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So, what's next? 147 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 What's the next things that Debian can do? 148 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Where can we go from here and what sort of ideas can we have? 149 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 There's a whole range of things we can do 150 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 but I'm just going to pick up two or three 151 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that we want to kinda concentrate on and see where we're going. 152 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 First, PPAs. [picture of a parcel] 153 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It's near enough a package, that'll do me. 154 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I've got a BoF scheduled on Friday, to try and look at what we're doing with this and 155 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 trying to finish it off. 156 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It was in my platform as something I want push and it's something I believe will 157 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 really help the development of Debian. 158 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Now, it's slightly different from Ubuntu PPAs as they're well known. 159 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It's not going to be somewhere that you can just dump random software and people 160 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 install various quality packages. 161 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 This is going to be a very useful tool to aid Debian development itself. 162 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 As far as I remember, most of the work is actually done now. 163 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Huge thanks to the FTP Masters and DSA etc for this. 164 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So the actual code is there in DAK. 165 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 The only missing bits is the control functions, 166 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 how you create new PPAs and the wannabuild system and we build stuff and 167 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 touch releases. 168 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So it is going to, hopefully, come any minute now 169 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and something that we will hopefully be able to use and will ease the, 170 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 sometimes the pain of when we freeze. 171 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Sometimes the ability to easily create backports 172 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 or even to ease library transitions. 173 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 If you can create a PPA where you stage your library, check everything works and 174 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 you can fix all your breakages then that should help unstable and testing as well. 175 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 One on outreach I guess is near enough. 176 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It's kinda interesting, I've mentioned that Debian is in a huge position to touch 177 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 many people's lives and it was slightly worrying that compared to the amount of 178 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Jessie release parties we had all over the world, 179 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I video called into one in India for example and it was globally popular. 180 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 [XXXX 13:19 XXX]