[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:00.24,0:00:08.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}RC3-Music{\i0} Dialogue: 0,0:00:08.47,0:00:15.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Herald: So our next speaker is Rick Panin\Nwith his talk vapor phase, soldiering with Dialogue: 0,0:00:15.14,0:00:20.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the deep fryer. So Rick has been doing\Nhardware design design for some time now. Dialogue: 0,0:00:20.34,0:00:25.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He actually considers himself a full stack\Ndeveloper from the hardware world. So Dialogue: 0,0:00:25.06,0:00:30.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,basically going from software to hardware,\Nit's everything from doing circuits to Dialogue: 0,0:00:30.29,0:00:35.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,firmware development on embedded Linux. He\Nusually does his stuff in small series Dialogue: 0,0:00:35.76,0:00:42.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,production in order to be able to give out\Nsome of the samples to the community where Dialogue: 0,0:00:42.95,0:00:48.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he's also been spending a bunch of time.\NHe's trying to slowly move the process of Dialogue: 0,0:00:48.75,0:00:55.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,being able to do as much as possible in-\Nhouse. And this talk is a result of that Dialogue: 0,0:00:55.63,0:01:01.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,process. Please give a great round of\Napplause, at least at home to Rick Panin. Dialogue: 0,0:01:01.52,0:01:06.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you. Dialogue: 0,0:01:06.07,0:01:11.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rick: Hi, welcome to my talk "Vapour phase\Nsoldering with a deep fryer". In this Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.95,0:01:17.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,talk, I first explain the reflow process\Nin detail and then I'll show you how Dialogue: 0,0:01:17.75,0:01:24.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,vapour phase soldering works and how to do\Nit with a cheap, deep fryer. Reflow Dialogue: 0,0:01:24.63,0:01:30.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,soldering basically consists of three\Nsteps. First, you apply some solder paste Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.44,0:01:37.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to a circuit board. Then you place your\Ncomponents onto the solder paste, and Dialogue: 0,0:01:37.38,0:01:45.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,finally, you apply some heat to do the\Nextra soldering. For that, you need some Dialogue: 0,0:01:45.13,0:01:54.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,solder paste, solder paste comes in 100\Nthousand varieties. Most of them have as Dialogue: 0,0:01:54.07,0:01:58.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,different melting points and different\Ningredients, but the common lead-free Dialogue: 0,0:01:58.78,0:02:07.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,paste that you use these days melt about\N210 to 225 degrees Celsius. And the Dialogue: 0,0:02:07.43,0:02:14.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,majority of the solder paste has a limited\Nshelf life and has to be kept in a fridge Dialogue: 0,0:02:14.00,0:02:21.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you're not using it. So for home use, I\Nwould recommend using the solder paste Dialogue: 0,0:02:21.81,0:02:28.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that comes in syringes because it's a\Nlesser amount and it probably won't go bad Dialogue: 0,0:02:28.66,0:02:34.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,unless you use a lot of solder paste.\NAlso, it's a bit easier to apply it. Dialogue: 0,0:02:34.97,0:02:42.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All Solder paste comes with temperature\Nprofile that tells you exactly how many Dialogue: 0,0:02:42.14,0:02:49.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,seconds you should ramp up the temperature\Nto a certain amount and then you have a Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.91,0:02:58.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,soaking phase where for several seconds\Nyou keep the temperature at the same point Dialogue: 0,0:02:58.87,0:03:04.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then for a very short amount of time,\Nyou ramp up the temperature to the reflow Dialogue: 0,0:03:04.90,0:03:11.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,phase. That's when the actual soldiering\Nhappens and then you have to remove the Dialogue: 0,0:03:11.81,0:03:18.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,temperature to cool it down. For applying\Nthe solder paste, there are two basic Dialogue: 0,0:03:18.82,0:03:26.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,methods. The first one is a direct paste\Napplication, so you can do that manually Dialogue: 0,0:03:26.60,0:03:32.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by just taking a syringe and applying a\Nsmall amount of solder paste to each pad Dialogue: 0,0:03:32.40,0:03:42.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where you want to put your SMD components.\NThen the next step would be a modified CMC Dialogue: 0,0:03:42.43,0:03:50.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mill or a 3D printer where you put in a\Nsolder paste syringe as a tool head and Dialogue: 0,0:03:50.85,0:03:58.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then load in your paste layer from your\Nelectronics design software and the Dialogue: 0,0:03:58.05,0:04:04.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,printer, then or the CMC mill\Nautomatically applies the solder paste to Dialogue: 0,0:04:04.35,0:04:12.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the pads on the board. And for industrial\Napplications, there are also inkjet Dialogue: 0,0:04:12.24,0:04:21.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,printer like devices that apply the solder\Npaste automatically to PCBs. But these Dialogue: 0,0:04:21.01,0:04:29.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,devices are very expensive and probably\Nnot suitable for home use. For home users, Dialogue: 0,0:04:29.36,0:04:35.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would recommend getting a stencil for\Nsolder paste applications because stencil Dialogue: 0,0:04:35.84,0:04:41.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have become very cheap and the recent\Nyears, and it's much simpler to apply the Dialogue: 0,0:04:41.83,0:04:51.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,solder paste with the stencil than doing\Nit manually. So stencils can be used also Dialogue: 0,0:04:51.35,0:04:59.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in different ways. The simple and cheapest\None is just putting your boards on a desk Dialogue: 0,0:04:59.89,0:05:07.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and using some tape to apply your stencil\Nto it. So you position it over your board Dialogue: 0,0:05:07.08,0:05:14.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then you fix it to your desk. And\Nafter that, you use a rake to wipe your Dialogue: 0,0:05:14.69,0:05:23.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,solder paste to the board. I will show\Nthat later in the demo. For home users, I Dialogue: 0,0:05:23.49,0:05:28.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would definitely recommend getting\Nframeless stencils when you order a Dialogue: 0,0:05:28.81,0:05:35.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stencil in your PCB house, you can always\Nyou always have a checkbox where you can Dialogue: 0,0:05:35.37,0:05:42.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,say, I want a frame or no frame. The first\Ntime I ordered a stencil, I took the frame Dialogue: 0,0:05:42.70,0:05:50.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,version and that looks like this. So you\Nget a gigantic thing and there in the Dialogue: 0,0:05:50.70,0:05:59.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,middle, it's actually my ... can we see\Nit. Maybe like this. There are. This is Dialogue: 0,0:05:59.57,0:06:05.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the actual board and this is the stencil\Non it has some, some aluminum framing Dialogue: 0,0:06:05.57,0:06:11.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,around it, and that's definitely very\Nexpensive for shipping. So you'd rather Dialogue: 0,0:06:11.42,0:06:17.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,want something like this. So a frameless\Nstencil that can be used very easily for Dialogue: 0,0:06:17.61,0:06:29.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the method where you just put it on your\Ndesk. If you do a lot of the same boards, Dialogue: 0,0:06:29.72,0:06:36.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then there are stencil printers, manual\Nstencil printers. That's where you use the Dialogue: 0,0:06:36.56,0:06:43.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stencils with a frame. But these stencil\Nprinters are not cheap, and I think the Dialogue: 0,0:06:43.36,0:06:51.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the tape on desk method is pretty simple\Nto use. So unless you make a batch Dialogue: 0,0:06:51.26,0:06:58.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,production of boards, I would always just\Nget the frame, the stencil and do it on Dialogue: 0,0:06:58.09,0:07:07.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your desk. For industrial environments,\Nthere are automatic stencil printers that Dialogue: 0,0:07:07.40,0:07:13.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have a conveyor belt pull in the PCB, do\Nall the positioning and then automatically Dialogue: 0,0:07:13.50,0:07:22.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,apply the solder paste to the stencil.\NAfter you have put the solder paste on Dialogue: 0,0:07:22.43,0:07:27.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your board, then you need to place your\Ncomponents. Again, the cheapest way and Dialogue: 0,0:07:27.41,0:07:34.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what what most home users will do is just\Ntake all the components manually with some Dialogue: 0,0:07:34.90,0:07:41.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tweezers and put it on your board because\Nof the way that reflow soldiering works. Dialogue: 0,0:07:41.24,0:07:46.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you will see that later in the demo.\NYou don't have to position them too Dialogue: 0,0:07:46.66,0:07:53.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,exactly because the surface tension of the\Nsolder paste when it starts to melt will Dialogue: 0,0:07:53.97,0:08:02.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pull the the components into position. So\Nyou don't have to be too precise with Dialogue: 0,0:08:02.45,0:08:07.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,positioning, you shouldn't place it right\Nnext to the footprint. But if if it's not Dialogue: 0,0:08:07.96,0:08:13.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,exactly where it should be, then this\Nshould be resolved while in the reflow Dialogue: 0,0:08:13.79,0:08:21.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,soldering process later. So I would always\Nbe recommending getting some good Dialogue: 0,0:08:21.14,0:08:29.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tweezers. If you do the manual placement\Nand not using the two euro things from the Dialogue: 0,0:08:29.25,0:08:37.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,DIY store because they will bend easily\Nand so some good tweezers really help the Dialogue: 0,0:08:37.99,0:08:47.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,process. The next step would be a pick and\Nplace machine that takes a file from your Dialogue: 0,0:08:47.38,0:08:53.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,design program that has all the positions\Nof the components and the rotation that it Dialogue: 0,0:08:53.20,0:09:00.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,needs after picking up the components from\Na reel or from a tray, and then use this Dialogue: 0,0:09:00.13,0:09:08.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,little suction cups to to place the\Ncomponents on the board. These have become Dialogue: 0,0:09:08.74,0:09:14.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a little bit cheaper in the recent years,\Nbut it's quite a hassle to to program it Dialogue: 0,0:09:14.87,0:09:23.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for a lot of components. So unless you're\Ndoing more than 20 boards or so, it's not Dialogue: 0,0:09:23.30,0:09:27.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really worth getting a pick and place\Nmachine and programing it and getting all Dialogue: 0,0:09:27.43,0:09:35.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the rotation and and the pick up\Ncorrectly. So, yeah, for projects where Dialogue: 0,0:09:35.35,0:09:42.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you do one to five boards, always do the\Nmanual placement and then in industrial Dialogue: 0,0:09:42.66,0:09:48.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,environments, there are also these pick\Nand place machine like in the mill. But Dialogue: 0,0:09:48.40,0:09:54.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for very high volume production, there are\Nalso machines called chipshooters that Dialogue: 0,0:09:54.24,0:10:02.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have a revolving turret that picks up\Ncomponents and then shoot them to the PCB. Dialogue: 0,0:10:02.27,0:10:09.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Once your components are placed on the\Nboard, you will need to solder it. And the Dialogue: 0,0:10:09.50,0:10:16.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cheapest method here is to use a hot air\Ngun. If you ever did this, you will know Dialogue: 0,0:10:16.07,0:10:23.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that it's not as easy as it looks. So you\Nset your hot air gun to a temperature and Dialogue: 0,0:10:23.39,0:10:29.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you set the airflow. And often, if you set\Nthe airflow too high, then you blow your Dialogue: 0,0:10:29.23,0:10:34.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,components off the board. Or if you set\Nthe temperature, you too high. You burn Dialogue: 0,0:10:34.29,0:10:39.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some components or you de-solder stuff\Nthat you don't want to de-solder on other Dialogue: 0,0:10:39.68,0:10:47.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,parts of the board. So it's mostly used if\Nyou do replacement of single components. Dialogue: 0,0:10:47.22,0:10:54.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you want to rework a chip or replace\None or if you do really just a few Dialogue: 0,0:10:54.93,0:11:02.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,components, then this can also be the\Nmethod to use. But I'd always recommend if Dialogue: 0,0:11:02.33,0:11:08.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you do that, then use some solder paste\Nthat has a lower melting point. So I Dialogue: 0,0:11:08.83,0:11:15.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,listed one from ChipQuick here that I am\Nusing for hot air reflowing and that melts Dialogue: 0,0:11:15.63,0:11:23.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at just 135 degrees C, so that makes it\Nway easier to get the setting right on Dialogue: 0,0:11:23.03,0:11:33.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your hot air gun. The next thing is using\Na modified pizza oven, so you get a pizza Dialogue: 0,0:11:33.32,0:11:39.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,oven and you put some thermal couples into\Nit to have a good temperature measurement. Dialogue: 0,0:11:39.19,0:11:47.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then most hobby users add some\Ncontroller, for example, in arduino based Dialogue: 0,0:11:47.38,0:11:53.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,controller that then tries to keep the\Ntemperature profile that you've seen on Dialogue: 0,0:11:53.83,0:12:01.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the solder paste. That works well for some\Nstuff, but because some of these ovens Dialogue: 0,0:12:01.84,0:12:09.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have these heating coils on the top, you\Nhave to be really careful with the Dialogue: 0,0:12:09.13,0:12:13.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,placement of your PCB underneath it\Nbecause there are some spots that are Dialogue: 0,0:12:13.86,0:12:20.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hotter and somewhat colder, and in\Ngeneral, it's it's hard to get good Dialogue: 0,0:12:20.18,0:12:26.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,results with a pizza oven. Often you have\Nto add some some airflow to get a better Dialogue: 0,0:12:26.98,0:12:33.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,distribution of the temperature. Sometimes\Nit's hard to ramp up the temperature fast Dialogue: 0,0:12:33.85,0:12:41.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,enough, and it's kind of a hassle. So I\Nalso use this method, and that's why I Dialogue: 0,0:12:41.62,0:12:45.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,switched to vapour phase soldering,\Nbecause that's the process that is much Dialogue: 0,0:12:45.64,0:12:54.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,easier to control at home. In industrial\Nenvironments, you have large reflow ovens Dialogue: 0,0:12:54.89,0:12:59.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that have different zones with different\Ntemperature, and then you have a conveyor Dialogue: 0,0:12:59.12,0:13:06.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,belt and your PCB goes on this conveyor\Nbelt through the oven and through the Dialogue: 0,0:13:06.21,0:13:12.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,different zones and then by just adjusting\Nthe speed of the conveyor. It's very easy Dialogue: 0,0:13:12.53,0:13:22.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to control the heat that is applied to the\Nboard. Instead of using an oven for reflow Dialogue: 0,0:13:22.41,0:13:30.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,soldering, you can also use vapor phase\Nsolder. And that's a very simple concept Dialogue: 0,0:13:30.79,0:13:37.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that has been around since the 1970s. That\Nworks by using a phase chamber with a Dialogue: 0,0:13:37.15,0:13:44.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,heater on the bottom phase chambers just\Nas sophisticated word for cooking pot. So, Dialogue: 0,0:13:44.22,0:13:51.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah, just like a cooking pot, you have\Nsome kind of container and underneath it Dialogue: 0,0:13:51.13,0:13:56.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you have a heat source and then inside of\Nthe container you have a liquid called Dialogue: 0,0:13:56.22,0:14:05.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Galden. Galden is liquid plastic that has\Nsome very unique properties. So the most Dialogue: 0,0:14:05.96,0:14:12.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,important one is that it has a boiling\Ntemperature of about 200 degrees. So there Dialogue: 0,0:14:12.91,0:14:20.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is Galden for different temperatures, just\Nlike solder paste. So there's one that Dialogue: 0,0:14:20.47,0:14:32.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,evaporates at 170 degrees, and some that\Nevaporates up to 260 degrees. And now, Dialogue: 0,0:14:32.80,0:14:38.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when you apply heat to this Galden, at\Nsome point it begins to boil and then it Dialogue: 0,0:14:38.67,0:14:46.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,forms a vapor that is heavier than air, so\Nit stays at the bottom of this chamber. Dialogue: 0,0:14:46.93,0:14:54.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that way, you'll have a low\Ntemperature on the top of the chamber and Dialogue: 0,0:14:54.74,0:15:01.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a higher temperature on the bottom of the\Nchamber, and the temperature will be Dialogue: 0,0:15:01.26,0:15:08.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,exactly the boiling temperature of the\NGalden. So it's just like with water. If Dialogue: 0,0:15:08.84,0:15:16.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you cook water, then you get water vapor.\NAnd unless you put it under pressure, the Dialogue: 0,0:15:16.47,0:15:22.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,water vapor will have exactly 100 degrees\Nand not more. And that's just like with Dialogue: 0,0:15:22.57,0:15:30.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Galden vapor that if you have gotten\Nthat is has a boiling point of 230 Dialogue: 0,0:15:30.29,0:15:38.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,degrees, then the vapor will have exactly\N230 degrees. And unless all the Galden in Dialogue: 0,0:15:38.78,0:15:45.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the phase chamber has evaporated, nothing\Nwill change. So you can never get it to a Dialogue: 0,0:15:45.25,0:15:53.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,high temperature. And in most of these\Nchambers, for vapor phase soldering, you Dialogue: 0,0:15:53.91,0:16:00.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,also have a cooling system on the top. So\Nbecause the Galden is pretty expensive, Dialogue: 0,0:16:00.67,0:16:08.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you don't want to lose any of it. Now, if\Nyou put a PCB in this chamber and slowly Dialogue: 0,0:16:08.66,0:16:18.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lower it into the vapor, then the\Ntemperature on the PCB will slowly rise to Dialogue: 0,0:16:18.15,0:16:28.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Galden boiling temperature. And as\Nthis Galden vapor condensates on the parts Dialogue: 0,0:16:28.21,0:16:34.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the PCB and it does it everywhere where\Nthe vapor attaches to the PCB, then it Dialogue: 0,0:16:34.43,0:16:39.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will very evenly heat up all the\Ncomponents and also the solder paste on Dialogue: 0,0:16:39.44,0:16:46.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the PCB to exactly the Galden's boiling\Ntemperature. And that way, you have a Dialogue: 0,0:16:46.35,0:16:51.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,process that's very easy to control\Nbecause it's not really possible to Dialogue: 0,0:16:51.40,0:16:58.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,overheat your components, or the solder\Npaste. So by timing the lowering and the Dialogue: 0,0:16:58.63,0:17:05.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lifting of the PCB into the vapor, you can\Nvery nicely follow the temperature profile Dialogue: 0,0:17:05.81,0:17:12.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of your soldering paste. One drawback of\Nthis process is that the Galden is very Dialogue: 0,0:17:12.23,0:17:19.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,expensive. So, if you have a large\Nindustrial vapor phase reflow oven, you Dialogue: 0,0:17:19.90,0:17:27.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,need some liters of it. And as you see,\Nfive liters costs about a thousand Dialogue: 0,0:17:27.07,0:17:33.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dollars. But for the process I'm showing\Nnow with the small deep fryer, you just Dialogue: 0,0:17:33.91,0:17:41.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,need a very small amount. So I use about\N250 ml, and at least in Europe, you can Dialogue: 0,0:17:41.55,0:17:53.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,get 400 milliliters of the 230 degree\NGalden at Beta Layout for €88. So for the Dialogue: 0,0:17:53.58,0:17:58.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,deep fryer vapour phase soldering, you\Nneed to buy a deep fryer for about 100 Dialogue: 0,0:17:58.57,0:18:05.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,euros and Galden in for 90 euros, so the\Nwhole process can be done for under 200 Dialogue: 0,0:18:05.29,0:18:11.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,euros. And if you're worried about the\Nsafety, Galden this actually very safe Dialogue: 0,0:18:11.22,0:18:17.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it's basically inert. So it's no\Nproblem if you breathe in the vapor or if Dialogue: 0,0:18:17.11,0:18:23.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you even swallow it the. The Safety\Ninstructions that come with the Galden say Dialogue: 0,0:18:23.39,0:18:27.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you breathe it in, then you should go\Noutside and take two or three deep Dialogue: 0,0:18:27.58,0:18:32.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,breaths. And if you swallow it, you should\Ndrink two glasses of water. In an Dialogue: 0,0:18:32.57,0:18:39.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,industrial environment, you have these\Nlarge vapor phase machines that also use Dialogue: 0,0:18:39.83,0:18:48.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the conveyor belt and automate the whole\Nprocess. And these are very expensive, but Dialogue: 0,0:18:48.81,0:18:54.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for lab use and prototyping. There are\Nthese smaller machines that also cost a Dialogue: 0,0:18:54.20,0:19:01.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,couple of thousand euros, but they are\Nbasically a container with a heater on the Dialogue: 0,0:19:01.57,0:19:07.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bottom, a temperature probe and some kind\Nof controller. And these are exactly the Dialogue: 0,0:19:07.87,0:19:12.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,same as deep fryers. So deep fryers also\Nhave some kind of heating coil at the Dialogue: 0,0:19:12.77,0:19:19.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bottom, and they have the controller and\Nsomewhere there's a temperature probe to Dialogue: 0,0:19:19.52,0:19:25.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,keep the temperature that you set on the\Ncontroller. And I've looked at lots of Dialogue: 0,0:19:25.73,0:19:33.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these devices, and finally, I found one\Nthat fits very good to my use case and the Dialogue: 0,0:19:33.69,0:19:42.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,size of the boards that I'm usually making\Nand that that is a WMF mini fryer. It is Dialogue: 0,0:19:42.08,0:19:51.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,quite small and it has a lid that is\Nsealed, so there's not much vapor escaping Dialogue: 0,0:19:51.63,0:19:59.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a very nice thing, is that when the\Nlid is closed by turning the handle, you Dialogue: 0,0:19:59.54,0:20:10.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can lower and lift the basket inside. It\Nhas a container that can be taken out. Dialogue: 0,0:20:10.46,0:20:15.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is quite flat on the bottom. And that\Nis also important because if you have the Dialogue: 0,0:20:15.84,0:20:23.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,heating coils inside of the container, you\Nneed a lot of the expensive Galden to put Dialogue: 0,0:20:23.80,0:20:31.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that much in it, that it's that it fills\Nit up to cover the heating rods. And Dialogue: 0,0:20:31.01,0:20:39.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because of the heating rod here is in the\Nbottom, that's you just need to about 250 Dialogue: 0,0:20:39.26,0:20:46.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,millimeters. So the whole bottom is\Ncovered with Galden. The temperature Dialogue: 0,0:20:46.37,0:20:57.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sensor in this device is just at the point\Nwhere the if you put in cooking oil, then Dialogue: 0,0:20:57.84,0:21:06.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's just where the lower level indicator\Nis on the container and the temperature Dialogue: 0,0:21:06.09,0:21:10.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sensor is basically outside, and it\Nmeasures the temperature of the container Dialogue: 0,0:21:10.97,0:21:18.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at a certain height. When we're using this\Nfor a vapor phase soldering this Dialogue: 0,0:21:18.10,0:21:22.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,temperature sensor will be above the\Nliquid, which is pretty nice because it Dialogue: 0,0:21:22.18,0:21:30.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will basically measure the temperature of\Nthe vapor and not of the liquid. The only Dialogue: 0,0:21:30.74,0:21:38.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,drawback is that it can just be set to one\Nhundred and ninety degrees and not more, Dialogue: 0,0:21:38.27,0:21:46.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is, I think, kind of due to the fact\Nthat you shouldn't try something like Dialogue: 0,0:21:46.01,0:21:51.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,potatoes with a higher temperature because\Nthere can be some cancerous stuff Dialogue: 0,0:21:51.60,0:21:58.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,developing if you fry it with too much\Nheat. But that's no problem for vapor Dialogue: 0,0:21:58.78,0:22:04.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,phase soldiering. So we have to somehow\Nmodify it that we can turn the temperature Dialogue: 0,0:22:04.77,0:22:13.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,higher. Fortunately, this device doesn't\Nhave any electronics. It's all pretty Dialogue: 0,0:22:13.82,0:22:21.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,discreet. So it has the temperature probe\Nand that has a certain resistance. And Dialogue: 0,0:22:21.61,0:22:27.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then you have the knob in front where you\Nset the temperature and you. That's also Dialogue: 0,0:22:27.73,0:22:32.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just a potential meter where you set a\Nresistance and then it just compares the Dialogue: 0,0:22:32.11,0:22:39.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,resistance of the temperature probe to the\Nresistance that you set on this potential Dialogue: 0,0:22:39.49,0:22:48.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,meter. And if it's higher, it switches off\Nthe heater. So the you would just have to Dialogue: 0,0:22:48.55,0:22:55.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,turn the knob a little bit further than\Nyou can to have a higher temperature range Dialogue: 0,0:22:55.52,0:23:02.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on that device, and you can do that by\Nopening up the button. And then there's a Dialogue: 0,0:23:02.67,0:23:09.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,little metal piece that stops the\Npotential meter from turning too far. You Dialogue: 0,0:23:09.23,0:23:14.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can take a screwdriver and bend that up a\Nbit, and I guess it works the same for all Dialogue: 0,0:23:14.98,0:23:19.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the cheap deep fryers on the market.\NAnd so they should be all basically the Dialogue: 0,0:23:19.51,0:23:28.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,same and just have a mechanical limiter\Nthat can be removed. So you you bend up Dialogue: 0,0:23:28.34,0:23:34.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this metal piece and then you screw the\Nbottom part back on. And then there's the Dialogue: 0,0:23:34.77,0:23:41.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,second limiter that you see when you take\Noff the knob on the front. There's a Dialogue: 0,0:23:41.06,0:23:48.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,little plastic part that also stops the\Nknob from turning to fall. So just take a Dialogue: 0,0:23:48.78,0:23:55.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sharp knife and cut away that plastic\Npart, and then you can turn the knob as Dialogue: 0,0:23:55.24,0:24:01.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,far as you want. To prevent too much of\Nthe precious Galden to escape through the Dialogue: 0,0:24:01.73,0:24:10.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lid, we also need to add some cooling. I\Njust used an old PC cooler that I found Dialogue: 0,0:24:10.43,0:24:17.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,somewhere in my basement. I also wanted to\Nadd water cooler at some point and looked Dialogue: 0,0:24:17.75,0:24:24.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at some water coolers for graphics cards.\NBut the ones I found were too expensive or Dialogue: 0,0:24:24.62,0:24:29.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not really available or not really\Nfitting. But I'm still looking to add Dialogue: 0,0:24:29.99,0:24:40.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that, and then probably I would lose even\Nless Galden through the lid. So now let me Dialogue: 0,0:24:40.63,0:24:50.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,show you how that all works. Here, I\Nprepared the board and gluing it with some Dialogue: 0,0:24:50.92,0:24:58.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,double sided tape onto my desk and at some\Nsome old boards around it, the upper one I Dialogue: 0,0:24:58.59,0:25:09.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,also glued to the board. Then I put the\Nstencil on it, taped it onto the other Dialogue: 0,0:25:09.03,0:25:16.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,board and used again and old board to rake\Nthe solder paste over it. And as you can Dialogue: 0,0:25:16.33,0:25:23.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,see, that works pretty nicely. So it's not\Nthat hard to use a total paste. No, I'm Dialogue: 0,0:25:23.32,0:25:30.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,putting some components to the bottom and\NI have attached temperature probe to the Dialogue: 0,0:25:30.85,0:25:37.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,basket. You don't really need that. It's\Njust for this demo to show to show how it Dialogue: 0,0:25:37.55,0:25:42.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,works. The temperature probe is not\Nworking really well, so it's not 30 Dialogue: 0,0:25:42.74,0:25:49.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,degrees where I'm doing this. It's plus\Nminus 10 degrees. I think it was damaged Dialogue: 0,0:25:49.46,0:25:54.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at some point. So you make sure that this\Nenough Galden, that the whole bottom of Dialogue: 0,0:25:54.94,0:26:01.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the container is covered with it. Then you\Nput your basket with your board on it and Dialogue: 0,0:26:01.70,0:26:11.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,switch on the deep fryer. So I put it to\Nabout where 210 degrees would be if it Dialogue: 0,0:26:11.09,0:26:17.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would be on the scale. And then it takes\Nabout three to four minutes until some Dialogue: 0,0:26:17.48,0:26:26.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,vapor is forming on the top of the PCB.\NHere I waited a bit too long because I had Dialogue: 0,0:26:26.84,0:26:33.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to it figure how to handle the camera. So,\Nyou see, it's already starting to solder. Dialogue: 0,0:26:33.15,0:26:39.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I should have known it much sooner. But\Nnow, I'm lowering it. And as we can see, Dialogue: 0,0:26:39.00,0:26:45.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the temperature is rising quickly to where\Nit should be. And here you see through the Dialogue: 0,0:26:45.18,0:26:51.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,glass how the solder works and how the\Ncomponents are pulled into place by the Dialogue: 0,0:26:51.50,0:26:58.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,surface tension of the solder paste. And\Nyeah, you can just watch it through this Dialogue: 0,0:26:58.56,0:27:06.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,window and see when everything is nice and\Nshiny and everything is soldered. And then Dialogue: 0,0:27:06.87,0:27:15.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you switch off the deep fryer, raise the\Nbasket again and wait for a few minutes Dialogue: 0,0:27:15.49,0:27:22.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for it to cool down. I didn't wait long\Nenough. So you see this some vapor Dialogue: 0,0:27:22.74,0:27:28.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,escaping. It's not dangerous, but it's\Nexpensive, so you should maybe wait a bit Dialogue: 0,0:27:28.80,0:27:32.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,longer. And now you see we have a nicely\Nsoldered board. Dialogue: 0,0:27:32.77,0:27:41.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Herald: Thank you so much, Rick. I think\Nit's really cool, like reducing the Dialogue: 0,0:27:41.22,0:27:46.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,friction in this entire process. I think\Nit's important to keep make sure that it's Dialogue: 0,0:27:46.48,0:27:50.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,possible to like innovate with like low\Namounts of resources because as we've seen Dialogue: 0,0:27:50.94,0:27:54.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,before with the community, like, that's\Nreally something that drives things Dialogue: 0,0:27:54.66,0:28:01.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,forward. So questions and I was actually\Nthinking about something myself like this Dialogue: 0,0:28:01.52,0:28:06.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,entire process. Like what has been one of\Nthe biggest obstacles? Because like Dialogue: 0,0:28:06.65,0:28:11.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,watching the talk, it seems like you've\Nreally overcome everything among the way Dialogue: 0,0:28:11.08,0:28:15.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when there was a little itch or something\Nlike what has actually proved to have been Dialogue: 0,0:28:15.05,0:28:17.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a problem because I guess there must have\Nbeen something . Dialogue: 0,0:28:17.22,0:28:27.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rick: The biggest problem was finding the\Nright deep fryer. So I, yeah, I ordered I Dialogue: 0,0:28:27.98,0:28:34.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,think about three different ones and now\Nevery now and then, I'm using my browser. Dialogue: 0,0:28:34.86,0:28:40.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I get some advertisements for kitchen\Nappliance and that would last for some Dialogue: 0,0:28:40.78,0:28:47.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,time. But yeah, finding one that can be\Nmodified easily. And that has this this Dialogue: 0,0:28:47.56,0:28:57.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,flat bottom. So yeah, I had ordered a lot\Nof them and send them back. But finding Dialogue: 0,0:28:57.01,0:29:00.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the right ones and then the process is\Npretty easy once you have the right one. Dialogue: 0,0:29:00.99,0:29:03.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Also, the modification takes just a few\Nminutes. Dialogue: 0,0:29:03.72,0:29:10.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Herald: Sounds a lot like trial and error\Nand that part. I mean, it's awesome that Dialogue: 0,0:29:10.57,0:29:14.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it worked out and I guess I guess like\Nit's just part of the process with like Dialogue: 0,0:29:14.90,0:29:20.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the advertising stuff.\NRick: So, yeah, if you if you do something Dialogue: 0,0:29:20.60,0:29:26.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like that and want to misuse of pot and\Nthen use a private browser, chat for that Dialogue: 0,0:29:26.81,0:29:31.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I'm not really interested in\Nkitchen appliances. But the algorithm Dialogue: 0,0:29:31.21,0:29:38.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doesn't know that.\NHerald: That's that's great. Yeah, just Dialogue: 0,0:29:38.53,0:29:46.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just. And now we will be taking the\Nquestions that have come in through the Dialogue: 0,0:29:46.13,0:29:53.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,internet. And so one person is asking, So\Nif the Galden is 230 degrees, can it be? Dialogue: 0,0:29:53.19,0:29:58.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can the solder be lead-free? The solder\Npaste, basically. Dialogue: 0,0:29:58.44,0:30:06.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rick: Yeah, yeah, I'm using lead-free\Nsolder, Yeah, it doesn't make sense to use Dialogue: 0,0:30:06.33,0:30:12.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,leaded solder with with this process\Nbecause it works just fine. I know a lot Dialogue: 0,0:30:12.53,0:30:17.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of people who who do who use the pizza\Noven method, all the cheap Chinese reflow Dialogue: 0,0:30:17.95,0:30:23.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,oven they use that as solder paste just\Nbecause it's easier to get the lower Dialogue: 0,0:30:23.68,0:30:30.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,temperature right. But for this, it really\Ndoesn't matter. So it works great. This is Dialogue: 0,0:30:30.25,0:30:34.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,leaded solder paste. And also in the demo,\NI used to lead-free solder paste. Dialogue: 0,0:30:34.90,0:30:40.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Herald: That's awesome, I think that was\Nan important thing to to to be able to Dialogue: 0,0:30:40.89,0:30:45.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have to figure out. So another person is\Nasking So with the discussion about Dialogue: 0,0:30:45.60,0:30:50.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fluorinated chemicals, is there a need to\Nrevisit the safety classification of the Dialogue: 0,0:30:50.53,0:30:58.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Galden or like, is that fine?\NRick: I think so. So you're really using Dialogue: 0,0:30:58.43,0:31:04.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just a little of it and there is as long\Nas you don't heat it up too much, it's Dialogue: 0,0:31:04.85,0:31:12.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,completely safe. If if you would manage to\Nsomehow heat up the gun above 290 degrees, Dialogue: 0,0:31:12.00,0:31:20.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it would break down and there would be\Nsome hydrochloric acid coming out of it. Dialogue: 0,0:31:20.02,0:31:24.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That would be very, very bad. But so so\Nyou have to make really sure that you have Dialogue: 0,0:31:24.77,0:31:28.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,enough Galden in it because the only way\Nthat that could happen, that you heat up Dialogue: 0,0:31:28.76,0:31:34.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the vapor to too much, I think, would be\Nto put too little in it. If it's just a Dialogue: 0,0:31:34.30,0:31:38.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very little bit in it, it could be that\Nthe bottom gets too hot and then it could Dialogue: 0,0:31:38.89,0:31:46.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,break down. But you really it's hard to to\Nget the vapor above 290 degrees if it's Dialogue: 0,0:31:46.08,0:31:52.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not under pressure or anything. So I think\Nit's pretty safe and it lasts very long. Dialogue: 0,0:31:52.41,0:31:56.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I probably I bought this 400\Nmilliliters and it probably will last Dialogue: 0,0:31:56.89,0:32:05.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,forever. From time to time, there's some\Nresidue in the in the Galden, but you can Dialogue: 0,0:32:05.41,0:32:10.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just run it through a coffee filter and\Nthen it's fine again. So it's you're not Dialogue: 0,0:32:10.17,0:32:14.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really using it up. It's it's just like a\Ntool and then it will last a very long Dialogue: 0,0:32:14.91,0:32:18.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,time.\NHerald: So I and extending and the last Dialogue: 0,0:32:18.98,0:32:22.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thing, so someone who is a bit freaked out\Nwith chemicals and stuff like that, for Dialogue: 0,0:32:22.45,0:32:26.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,instance, me like, how do you actually go\Nabout it? Like, what's the absolute worst Dialogue: 0,0:32:26.87,0:32:30.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thing that could happen?\NRick: The worst thing is the hydrochloric Dialogue: 0,0:32:30.16,0:32:35.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,acid forming when when you get it too hot.\NSo it's something so I would recommend to. Dialogue: 0,0:32:35.83,0:32:42.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you do that, do that outside. Take all\Nthe precautions use safety goggles, use, Dialogue: 0,0:32:42.81,0:32:49.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,use gloves and maybe also use your FFP2\Nmask if you're if you're really afraid of Dialogue: 0,0:32:49.66,0:32:54.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it. And then if you if you do it outside\Nand and never look away, if if Y-, they're Dialogue: 0,0:32:54.83,0:33:00.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,using it. So if you're done using it or if\Nyou walk away from it, disconnected from Dialogue: 0,0:33:00.24,0:33:06.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the power. And yeah, as with everything.\NSo so it's really hot when you don't want Dialogue: 0,0:33:06.23,0:33:12.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something that's 230 degrees on your on\Nyour hands. So. So just don't be stupid. Dialogue: 0,0:33:12.38,0:33:18.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Herald: Sounds like a sane precaution.\NRick: But the government is actually. So Dialogue: 0,0:33:18.53,0:33:23.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you have seen the film The Abyss, it's\Nit's an old science fiction movie where Dialogue: 0,0:33:23.71,0:33:29.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they are underwater and they are breathing\Nin a liquid. Was that his oxygen in it to Dialogue: 0,0:33:29.30,0:33:33.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,go deeper? And that is actually the same\Nstuff. And there are. You can find Dialogue: 0,0:33:33.76,0:33:38.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pictures on the internet where they have\Nrats in and in small (glasses) with the Dialogue: 0,0:33:38.96,0:33:45.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stuff in it, and they're breathing it. And\Nso it's really, yeah, unless you make it Dialogue: 0,0:33:45.33,0:33:48.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,too hot, it's really inert and it doesn't\Nreact with anything. Dialogue: 0,0:33:48.35,0:33:53.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Herald: I'll refrain from asking you how\Nthe movie ends. Dialogue: 0,0:33:53.01,0:34:00.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rick: I think there is a lot that I think\NI've seen it, but Dialogue: 0,0:34:00.96,0:34:08.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Herald: No worries. The next question is\Ndo you need to do you need to remove the Dialogue: 0,0:34:08.91,0:34:12.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,condensed Galden vapour from the\Ncomponents or how does that work? Dialogue: 0,0:34:12.87,0:34:22.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rick: Um, there's actually very little on\Nit. So they feel dry. So I don't I don't Dialogue: 0,0:34:22.22,0:34:29.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,clean the boards afterwards. I think I\Nthink that's fine and there's not really Dialogue: 0,0:34:29.01,0:34:34.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,much left. So, yeah, the stuff condensing\Non it. But I think most of it drops down Dialogue: 0,0:34:34.87,0:34:40.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they're not wet to the touch yourself.\NSo, yeah, I don't I don't clean the boards Dialogue: 0,0:34:40.05,0:34:43.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,afterwards.\NHerald: OK. I think it's good in these Dialogue: 0,0:34:43.77,0:34:47.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kinds of situations to like, figure out\Nwhat someone who's a bit more experienced Dialogue: 0,0:34:47.39,0:34:54.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or very more experienced like yourself\Nbasically handles and doesn't that kind of Dialogue: 0,0:34:54.16,0:35:00.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,situation. So one of the next questions is\Nthat if whether you have checked, if the Dialogue: 0,0:35:00.78,0:35:05.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,plastic can safely be heated to 250\Ndegrees and I think they're basically Dialogue: 0,0:35:05.05,0:35:10.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,referring to the deep fryer here,\NRick: oh, that's that's all on. There are Dialogue: 0,0:35:10.95,0:35:18.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some plastic parts, but the container is\Nthis metal and there there is on the top Dialogue: 0,0:35:18.35,0:35:24.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lid there are some plastic parts. I've\Nmade some experiments first and nothing Dialogue: 0,0:35:24.04,0:35:30.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,melted. But yeah, I have to see you see\Nwhat happens. I've used it, I don't know, Dialogue: 0,0:35:30.47,0:35:37.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,10 or 20 times, and it's fine until now.\NBut yeah, yeah, probably. This device is Dialogue: 0,0:35:37.62,0:35:42.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not made for that kind of heat, but it's\Nmade for 190 degrees and up 230 is not too Dialogue: 0,0:35:42.18,0:35:49.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,far from that. So until now, it (keeps) up\Nnicely. But again, it's a hack it's not Dialogue: 0,0:35:49.89,0:35:56.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really, really made for this. For me, it\Nworks fine, but you have to be careful if Dialogue: 0,0:35:56.96,0:36:04.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you try it out yourself.\NHerald: Cool. Thank you. I will just check Dialogue: 0,0:36:04.23,0:36:09.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if there are any like last under falling\Nor real questions, I don't know how you Dialogue: 0,0:36:09.10,0:36:13.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,say that in English. And I think that was\Nactually everything for now. So as I said Dialogue: 0,0:36:13.77,0:36:17.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,previously Rick, like, thank you so much.\NIt's it's really great, especially Dialogue: 0,0:36:17.50,0:36:22.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,considering that as the more you can take\Nin at home, the easier and faster this Dialogue: 0,0:36:22.81,0:36:27.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,process will be and basically also lower\Nthe cost. And like I at least personally Dialogue: 0,0:36:27.22,0:36:32.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,feel that that's very important. So I want\Nto say thank you. And I think that the Dialogue: 0,0:36:32.64,0:36:36.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,audience agrees with me. So thanks a lot.\NOK, Dialogue: 0,0:36:36.79,0:36:40.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rick: Then. Yeah, have fun soloing at\Nhome. Dialogue: 0,0:36:40.60,0:36:51.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Herald: We will. Thanks. Bye\NRick:bye Dialogue: 0,0:36:51.85,0:37:00.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}RC3-postroll Music{\i0} Dialogue: 0,0:37:00.97,0:37:08.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Subtitles created by c3subtitles.de\Nin the year 2021. Join, and help us!