0:00:01.100,0:00:02.940 [Ridgewood--Queens] 0:00:07.040,0:00:08.720 ["New York Close Up"] 0:00:11.680,0:00:14.880 ["Jamian Juliano-Villani Gets to Work"] 0:00:17.160,0:00:18.600 It's a very simple routine: 0:00:18.600,0:00:19.580 I come in, 0:00:19.920,0:00:21.100 reheat my coffee, 0:00:21.109,0:00:23.369 go on the computer, look at stuff, 0:00:23.369,0:00:24.580 clean my brushes, 0:00:26.080,0:00:28.000 and then I get to work. 0:00:35.880,0:00:40.320 I've not had time off since I started,[br]which is crazy. 0:00:50.320,0:00:53.180 Once you have a deadline[br]it's like impending doom. 0:00:53.180,0:00:54.300 It's like a pimp! 0:00:54.690,0:00:56.960 Constantly, like you owe someone something. 0:00:56.960,0:00:59.180 Stress assassinates creativity. 0:01:04.640,0:01:07.740 If you make a bad painting[br]in your job as an artist, 0:01:07.750,0:01:09.500 it's like the worst. 0:01:09.500,0:01:10.500 It's mortifying. 0:01:10.500,0:01:13.560 It's like having chocolate all over your face[br]or something-- 0:01:13.560,0:01:15.740 and you're going to some gala. 0:01:17.340,0:01:19.580 You're only as good as your last painting-- 0:01:20.200,0:01:21.200 which sucks-- 0:01:21.660,0:01:23.800 but, you know, it's kind of the truth. 0:01:32.320,0:01:34.320 I was growing up in the middle of nowhere,[br]New Jersey, 0:01:34.320,0:01:38.120 and I just wanted to get out of New Jersey[br]and get to New York immediately. 0:01:40.140,0:01:44.540 New York is where it seemed like all[br]the artists went to be artists. 0:01:44.549,0:01:45.549 ["Painters Painting"] 0:01:45.549,0:01:47.090 I was watching "Painters Painting"-- 0:01:47.090,0:01:49.649 Stella and Rauschenberg[br]and blah blah blah, 0:01:49.649,0:01:51.329 and they're all in New York, you know-- 0:01:51.329,0:01:53.020 sitting on ladders, covered in paint. 0:01:53.020,0:01:55.340 For me, as a teenager, it was amazing. 0:01:55.860,0:01:56.780 "That's..." 0:01:57.360,0:01:58.720 "That's it!"[br]You know? 0:01:59.140,0:02:00.460 Now, I romanticize it less 0:02:00.460,0:02:05.250 because coming to New York[br]and starting to be in the art world thing-- 0:02:05.250,0:02:06.240 it's insane! 0:02:07.200,0:02:10.259 I've had a million shitty jobs. 0:02:10.259,0:02:12.020 Overnight shift diner waitress. 0:02:12.020,0:02:13.380 I worked at a group home. 0:02:13.380,0:02:14.580 Taught gymnastics. 0:02:14.580,0:02:15.810 Kindergarten teacher. 0:02:15.810,0:02:20.900 I organized books for a marine[br]who was obsessed with ships. 0:02:21.660,0:02:24.790 I was commuting back and forth[br]from working at a restaurant in New Jersey 0:02:24.790,0:02:27.200 so I could get my first apartment in New York. 0:02:27.690,0:02:29.440 I was basically painting on top of my bed, 0:02:29.450,0:02:31.460 staying up every other night to paint. 0:02:31.460,0:02:33.660 Slowly, I got a slightly bigger room-- 0:02:34.100,0:02:35.520 and then I got a slightly bigger room. 0:02:36.860,0:02:39.630 Three years ago,[br]I actually got my first real studio ever. 0:02:39.630,0:02:42.000 That was like Christmas, every day. 0:02:48.000,0:02:48.760 --Terrible. 0:02:54.340,0:02:55.640 The paintings, I think, are... 0:02:56.180,0:02:57.060 They're tricky. 0:02:59.600,0:03:02.300 You need to make them better,[br]make them weirder, 0:03:02.300,0:03:04.240 make them smarter,[br]make them dumber. 0:03:12.160,0:03:15.280 You just paint a snowman[br]in the desert... 0:03:16.380,0:03:17.740 That's it? Really? 0:03:17.740,0:03:19.380 Like, there's no other step, you know? 0:03:19.380,0:03:21.020 It's like some stupid one-liner? 0:03:23.000,0:03:26.900 I have a sense of humor[br]and a really light way to approach something. 0:03:26.900,0:03:28.030 Just come up with a joke, 0:03:28.030,0:03:30.480 and then from there,[br]how can you offset that 0:03:30.480,0:03:32.380 so it's like[br]psychological or personal? 0:03:33.020,0:03:35.700 It's like ping pong,[br]back and forth, back and forth, 0:03:35.710,0:03:38.630 until it's just[br]all these things going like this, 0:03:38.630,0:03:39.880 negating itself. 0:03:41.280,0:03:43.560 A lot of weird decisions just happen here[br]by myself 0:03:43.560,0:03:44.901 in the middle of the night. 0:03:44.901,0:03:47.120 But also a lot of it is talking to other people. 0:03:47.700,0:03:50.060 If you have all these different voices [br]coming in, 0:03:50.060,0:03:52.720 it's less of a one-person lecture. 0:03:54.100,0:03:56.520 [Ajay Kurian, Artist] 0:03:58.760,0:04:00.880 Across the hall is Ajay, 0:04:03.120,0:04:04.440 who is an amazing artist. 0:04:04.440,0:04:08.200 Man, he saved my ass so many times[br]with so many shows. 0:04:08.580,0:04:10.780 "Uh, can you give me a minute[br]and we could like, um..." 0:04:10.780,0:04:12.800 "You could just give me moral support please? Thanks." 0:04:12.800,0:04:18.340 --I'm thinking like a very very, super light,[br]pale teal kind of colors. 0:04:18.340,0:04:20.600 --Blue, or very very pale purple. 0:04:21.580,0:04:23.020 --Purple is probably better? 0:04:24.600,0:04:25.660 --Like cool purple. 0:04:25.660,0:04:26.720 [KURIAN][br]--Like lavender, or? 0:04:26.800,0:04:27.960 [JULIANO-VILLANI][br]--Cool ass purple. 0:04:28.940,0:04:29.720 [KURIAN][br]--I could see that. 0:04:29.780,0:04:30.360 [JULIANO-VILLANI][br]--Right. 0:04:31.620,0:04:32.620 --Or like a... 0:04:32.620,0:04:34.100 [KURIAN][br]--Is that a vase or a mirror? 0:04:34.100,0:04:35.830 [JULIANO-VILLANI][br]--Who the fuck knows? 0:04:35.830,0:04:37.180 --It will be a mirror. 0:04:37.180,0:04:37.940 [KURIAN][br]--Okay. 0:04:37.940,0:04:38.720 [JULIANO-VILLANI][br]--Hmm... 0:04:42.020,0:04:42.760 --Fuck. 0:04:44.520,0:04:45.920 One of my friends was telling me, 0:04:45.920,0:04:47.840 "Just put some crap in there,[br]no one can tell." 0:04:47.840,0:04:49.120 I was like, "Thanks, jerk!" 0:04:49.120,0:04:50.120 [Inhales sharply] 0:04:50.840,0:04:53.360 But I can definitely tell. 0:04:53.360,0:04:55.220 Because these are supposed to be confident. 0:05:01.280,0:05:02.310 I just turned 30. 0:05:03.080,0:05:05.693 I mean, I chainsmoke--[br]like, you know, a pack and a half a day. 0:05:05.700,0:05:06.920 I drink a lot. 0:05:07.350,0:05:09.000 My sleeping habits are terrible. 0:05:09.010,0:05:10.290 I eat garbage. 0:05:10.290,0:05:12.540 This is just a vessel,[br]you know what I mean? 0:05:16.080,0:05:18.900 Past couple of years, I had so much stamina 0:05:18.900,0:05:20.700 and just kept on working and pumping. 0:05:20.700,0:05:22.160 And now, it's like, when it actually matters, 0:05:22.160,0:05:23.800 I got to make sure I still have it. 0:05:23.800,0:05:27.030 I think the main pressure is[br]maintaining integrity 0:05:27.030,0:05:28.930 and making work that you feel good about-- 0:05:28.930,0:05:31.440 even under pressure,[br]which is really difficult. 0:05:33.040,0:05:34.580 I really want to push the paintings-- 0:05:34.580,0:05:38.320 and I don't know how yet,[br]but hopefully I'll figure it out 0:05:38.320,0:05:40.780 and make them something[br]that they aren't yet. 0:05:43.220,0:05:44.640 I know I'm going to make some, like, 0:05:44.650,0:05:46.760 embarrassing, bad sculptures[br]or videos or something. 0:05:46.760,0:05:48.260 But, like, fuck it,[br]I got to do it, 0:05:48.260,0:05:49.380 now is the time-- 0:05:50.260,0:05:51.760 while I have the energy.