WEBVTT 00:00:01.040 --> 00:00:04.216 Good evening, welcome to New Orleans. 00:00:04.240 --> 00:00:05.776 I don't know if you knew this, 00:00:05.800 --> 00:00:12.136 but you are sitting within 15 minutes of one of the largest rivers in the world: 00:00:12.160 --> 00:00:13.440 the Mississippi river. 00:00:14.360 --> 00:00:16.800 Old Man River, Big Muddy. 00:00:17.560 --> 00:00:22.056 And it goes as far north as the state of Minnesota, 00:00:22.080 --> 00:00:26.416 as far east as the state of New York, 00:00:26.440 --> 00:00:30.096 as far west as Montana. 00:00:30.120 --> 00:00:33.456 And 100 miles from here, river miles, 00:00:33.480 --> 00:00:38.080 it empties its fresh water and sediments into the Gulf of Mexico. 00:00:39.080 --> 00:00:42.256 That's the end of Geography 101. 00:00:42.280 --> 00:00:43.376 (Laughter) 00:00:43.400 --> 00:00:47.336 Now we're going to go to what is in that water. 00:00:47.360 --> 00:00:53.320 Besides the sediment, there are dissolved molecules, nitrogen and phosphorus. 00:00:54.120 --> 00:00:57.280 And those, through a biological process, 00:00:58.600 --> 00:01:03.800 lead to the formation of areas called dead zones. 00:01:04.400 --> 00:01:08.560 Now, dead zone is a quite ominous word 00:01:09.880 --> 00:01:11.936 if you're a fish or a crab. 00:01:11.960 --> 00:01:13.496 (Laughter) 00:01:13.520 --> 00:01:16.496 Even a little worm in the sediments. 00:01:16.520 --> 00:01:19.576 Which means that there's not enough oxygen 00:01:19.600 --> 00:01:22.240 for those animals to survive. 00:01:23.680 --> 00:01:25.416 So, how does this happen? 00:01:25.440 --> 00:01:27.656 The nitrogen and the phosphorus 00:01:27.680 --> 00:01:32.640 stimulate the growth of microscopic plants called phytoplankton. 00:01:33.760 --> 00:01:39.336 And small animals called zooplankton eat the phytoplankton, 00:01:39.360 --> 00:01:43.296 small fish eat the zooplankton, large fish eat the small fish 00:01:43.320 --> 00:01:46.096 and it goes on up into the food web. 00:01:46.120 --> 00:01:50.656 The problem is that there's just too much nitrogen and phosphorus right now, 00:01:50.680 --> 00:01:53.896 too much phytoplankton falling to the bottom 00:01:53.920 --> 00:01:59.416 and decomposed by bacteria that use up the oxygen. 00:01:59.440 --> 00:02:01.200 That's the biology. 00:02:01.880 --> 00:02:05.256 Now, you can't see it from the surface of the water, 00:02:05.280 --> 00:02:07.736 you can't see it in satellite images, 00:02:07.760 --> 00:02:09.936 so how do we know it's there? 00:02:09.960 --> 00:02:12.736 Well, a trawler can tell you, 00:02:12.760 --> 00:02:17.096 when she puts her net over the side and drags for 20 minutes 00:02:17.120 --> 00:02:18.936 and comes up empty, 00:02:18.960 --> 00:02:21.256 that she knows she's in the dead zone. 00:02:21.280 --> 00:02:23.616 And she has to go somewhere else. 00:02:23.640 --> 00:02:29.496 But where else do you go if this area is 8,000 square miles big? 00:02:29.520 --> 00:02:31.960 About the size of the state of New Jersey. 00:02:32.880 --> 00:02:37.136 Well, you either make a decision to go further, 00:02:37.160 --> 00:02:39.456 without much economic return, 00:02:39.480 --> 00:02:40.960 or go back to the dock. 00:02:42.160 --> 00:02:46.096 As a scientist, I have access to high-tech equipment 00:02:46.120 --> 00:02:48.976 that we can put over the side of the research vessel 00:02:49.000 --> 00:02:51.856 and it measures oxygen and many more things. 00:02:51.880 --> 00:02:54.176 We start at the Mississippi River, 00:02:54.200 --> 00:02:58.696 we crisscross the Gulf of Mexico all the way to Texas, 00:02:58.720 --> 00:03:03.360 and even I sneak into Texas every now and then and test their waters. 00:03:04.560 --> 00:03:08.296 And you can tell by the bottom oxygen -- 00:03:08.320 --> 00:03:11.496 you can draw a map of everything that's less than two, 00:03:11.520 --> 00:03:17.200 Which is the magic number for when the fish start to leave the area. 00:03:17.880 --> 00:03:19.960 I also dive in this dead zone. 00:03:21.000 --> 00:03:25.016 We have oxygen meters that we have to deploy offshore, 00:03:25.040 --> 00:03:29.440 that tell us continuous measurements of low oxygen or high oxygen. 00:03:30.360 --> 00:03:33.936 And when you get into the water, there's a lot of fish. 00:03:33.960 --> 00:03:35.856 Tons of fish, all kinds of fish, 00:03:35.880 --> 00:03:40.096 including my buddy here, the barracuda that I saw one day. 00:03:40.120 --> 00:03:44.496 Everybody else swam this way and I went this way with my camera. 00:03:44.520 --> 00:03:45.536 (Laughter) 00:03:45.560 --> 00:03:50.176 And then, down at 30 feet you start to see fewer fish. 00:03:50.200 --> 00:03:52.376 And then you get to the bottom. 00:03:52.400 --> 00:03:54.616 And you don't see any fish. 00:03:54.640 --> 00:03:59.296 There's no life on the platform, there's no life swimming around. 00:03:59.320 --> 00:04:01.800 And you know you're in the dead zone. 00:04:03.000 --> 00:04:07.296 So, what's the connection between the middle of the United States 00:04:07.320 --> 00:04:09.416 and the Gulf of Mexico? 00:04:09.440 --> 00:04:12.800 Well, most of the watershed is farmland. 00:04:13.720 --> 00:04:17.480 And in particular, corn-soybean rotation. 00:04:18.959 --> 00:04:24.616 The nitrogen that is put in fertilizers and the phosphorus goes on the land 00:04:24.640 --> 00:04:27.616 and drains off into the Mississippi River 00:04:27.640 --> 00:04:29.840 and ends up in the Gulf of Mexico. 00:04:30.440 --> 00:04:35.256 There's three times more nitrogen in the water 00:04:35.280 --> 00:04:37.056 in the Mississippi now, 00:04:37.080 --> 00:04:39.296 than there was in the 1950s. 00:04:39.320 --> 00:04:40.736 Three times. 00:04:40.760 --> 00:04:42.776 And phosphorus has doubled. 00:04:42.800 --> 00:04:47.880 And what that means is more phytoplankton and more sinking sails and lower oxygen. 00:04:48.520 --> 00:04:53.000 This is not a natural feature of the Gulf, it's been caused by human activities. 00:04:54.040 --> 00:04:56.656 The landscape is not what it used to be. 00:04:56.680 --> 00:05:01.616 It used to be prairies and forests and prairie potholes 00:05:01.640 --> 00:05:05.736 and duck areas and all kinds of stuff. 00:05:05.760 --> 00:05:08.040 But not anymore -- it's [unclear] crops. 00:05:08.760 --> 00:05:13.736 And there are ways that we can address this type of agriculture 00:05:13.760 --> 00:05:19.056 by using less fertilizer, maybe precision fertilizing. 00:05:19.080 --> 00:05:22.496 And trying some sustainable agriculture, 00:05:22.520 --> 00:05:27.056 such as perennial wheatgrass, which has much longer roots 00:05:27.080 --> 00:05:29.696 than the six inches of a corn plant, 00:05:29.720 --> 00:05:34.320 that can keep the nitrogen on the soil and keep the soil from running off. 00:05:35.320 --> 00:05:39.336 And how do we convince our neighbors to the north, 00:05:39.360 --> 00:05:42.736 maybe 1,000 miles away or more, 00:05:42.760 --> 00:05:48.800 that their activities are causing problems with water quality in the Gulf of Mexico? 00:05:49.760 --> 00:05:52.896 First of all, we can take them to their own backyard. 00:05:52.920 --> 00:05:56.496 If you want to go swimming in Wisconsin, in the summer, 00:05:56.520 --> 00:05:58.320 in your favorite watering hole, 00:05:59.200 --> 00:06:02.416 you might find something like this 00:06:02.440 --> 00:06:06.936 which looks like spilled green paint and smells like it, 00:06:06.960 --> 00:06:09.496 growing on the surface of the water. 00:06:09.520 --> 00:06:13.376 This is a toxic blue-green algal bloom 00:06:13.400 --> 00:06:16.440 and it is not good for you. 00:06:17.480 --> 00:06:21.616 Similarly, in Lake Erie, couple of summers ago 00:06:21.640 --> 00:06:25.536 there was hundreds of miles of this blue-green algae 00:06:25.560 --> 00:06:29.896 and the city of Toledo, Ohio, couldn't use it for their drinking water 00:06:29.920 --> 00:06:31.776 for several days on end. 00:06:31.800 --> 00:06:33.536 And if you watch the news, 00:06:33.560 --> 00:06:39.480 you know that lots of communities are having trouble with drinking water. 00:06:41.440 --> 00:06:43.176 I'm a scientist. 00:06:43.200 --> 00:06:45.296 I don't know if you could tell that. 00:06:45.320 --> 00:06:46.560 (Laughter) 00:06:49.560 --> 00:06:53.656 And I do solid science, I publish my results, 00:06:53.680 --> 00:06:58.080 my colleagues read them, I get citations of my work. 00:06:58.840 --> 00:07:02.720 But I truly believe that, as a scientist, 00:07:03.680 --> 00:07:08.656 using mostly federal funds to do the research, 00:07:08.680 --> 00:07:11.816 I owe it to the public, 00:07:11.840 --> 00:07:15.336 to agency heads and congressional people 00:07:15.360 --> 00:07:17.936 to share my knowledge with them 00:07:17.960 --> 00:07:21.856 so they can use it, hopefully to make better decisions 00:07:21.880 --> 00:07:24.040 about our environmental policy. 00:07:24.440 --> 00:07:26.416 (Applause) 00:07:26.440 --> 00:07:27.696 Thank you. 00:07:27.720 --> 00:07:31.416 (Applause) 00:07:31.440 --> 00:07:35.896 One of the ways that I was able to do this is I brought in the media. 00:07:35.920 --> 00:07:40.336 And Joby Warrick from the "Washington Post" 00:07:40.360 --> 00:07:43.336 put this picture in an article 00:07:43.360 --> 00:07:47.360 on the front page, Sunday morning, two inches above the fold. 00:07:48.160 --> 00:07:50.416 That's a big deal. 00:07:50.440 --> 00:07:53.696 And Senator John Breaux, from Louisiana, 00:07:53.720 --> 00:07:57.936 said, "Oh my gosh, that's what they think the Gulf of Mexico looks like?" 00:07:57.960 --> 00:08:00.616 And I said, "Well, you know, there's the proof." 00:08:00.640 --> 00:08:03.336 And we've go to do something about it. 00:08:03.360 --> 00:08:08.096 At the same time, Senator Olympia Snowe from Maine 00:08:08.120 --> 00:08:12.016 was having trouble with harmful algal blooms in the Gulf of Maine. 00:08:12.040 --> 00:08:15.936 They joined forces -- it was bipartisan -- 00:08:15.960 --> 00:08:17.256 (Laughter) 00:08:17.280 --> 00:08:19.736 (Applause) 00:08:19.760 --> 00:08:22.656 And invited me to give congressional testimony, 00:08:22.680 --> 00:08:25.736 and I said, "Oh, all I've done is chase crabs around south Texas, 00:08:25.760 --> 00:08:27.176 I don't know how to do that." 00:08:27.200 --> 00:08:28.416 (Laughter) 00:08:28.440 --> 00:08:29.656 But I did it. 00:08:29.680 --> 00:08:31.176 (Member of audience cheers) 00:08:31.200 --> 00:08:32.775 And eventually, the bill passed. 00:08:32.799 --> 00:08:35.496 And it was called -- yeah, yay! 00:08:35.520 --> 00:08:38.616 It was called The Harmful Algal Bloom 00:08:38.640 --> 00:08:43.336 and Hypoxia Research and Control Act of 1998. 00:08:43.360 --> 00:08:44.816 (Laughter) 00:08:44.840 --> 00:08:48.176 (Applause) 00:08:48.200 --> 00:08:49.416 Thank you. 00:08:49.440 --> 00:08:51.936 Which is why we call it the Snowe-Breaux Bill. 00:08:51.960 --> 00:08:53.160 (Laughter) 00:08:54.400 --> 00:09:00.920 The other thing is that we had a conference in 2001 00:09:01.800 --> 00:09:04.576 that was put on by the National Academy of Sciences 00:09:04.600 --> 00:09:08.920 that looked at fertilizers, nitrogen and poor water quality. 00:09:09.880 --> 00:09:13.496 Our plenary speaker was the former governor 00:09:13.520 --> 00:09:15.360 of the state of New Jersey. 00:09:16.640 --> 00:09:18.776 And she ... 00:09:18.800 --> 00:09:23.656 There was no thinking she wasn't serious when she peered at the audience 00:09:23.680 --> 00:09:26.816 and I thought, "Surely she's looking at me." 00:09:26.840 --> 00:09:30.856 "You know, I'm really tired of this thing being called New Jersey. 00:09:30.880 --> 00:09:34.736 Pick another state, any state, I just don't want to hear it anymore." 00:09:34.760 --> 00:09:38.416 But she was able to move the action plan 00:09:38.440 --> 00:09:44.136 across President George H.W. Bush's desk 00:09:44.160 --> 00:09:46.720 so that we had environmental goals 00:09:47.960 --> 00:09:49.920 and that we were working to solve them. 00:09:52.000 --> 00:09:55.040 The Midwest does not feed the world. 00:09:55.880 --> 00:10:01.616 It feeds a lot of chickens, hogs, cattle 00:10:01.640 --> 00:10:03.896 and it generates ethanol 00:10:03.920 --> 00:10:06.296 to put into our gasoline, 00:10:06.320 --> 00:10:09.320 which is regulated by federal policy. 00:10:10.160 --> 00:10:11.640 We can do better than this. 00:10:13.400 --> 00:10:15.640 We need to make decisions 00:10:16.880 --> 00:10:21.000 that make us less consumptive 00:10:22.840 --> 00:10:27.080 and reduce our reliance on nitrogen. 00:10:27.920 --> 00:10:30.096 It's like a carbon footprint. 00:10:30.120 --> 00:10:33.136 But you can reduce your nitrogen footprint. 00:10:33.160 --> 00:10:37.560 I do it by not eating much meat -- 00:10:38.360 --> 00:10:40.456 I still like a little every now and then -- 00:10:40.480 --> 00:10:41.960 not using corn oil, 00:10:43.240 --> 00:10:47.656 driving a car that I can put nonethanol gas in 00:10:47.680 --> 00:10:49.480 and get better gas mileage. 00:10:50.520 --> 00:10:53.056 Just things like that that can make a difference. 00:10:53.080 --> 00:10:56.736 So I'm challenging, not just you, 00:10:56.760 --> 00:11:00.176 but I challenge a lot of people, especially in the Midwest -- 00:11:00.200 --> 00:11:05.160 think about how you're treating your land and how you can make a difference. 00:11:06.040 --> 00:11:09.000 So my steps are very small steps. 00:11:10.320 --> 00:11:14.016 To change the type of agriculture in the US 00:11:14.040 --> 00:11:16.936 is going to be many big steps. 00:11:16.960 --> 00:11:20.720 And it's going to take political and social will for that to happen. 00:11:21.360 --> 00:11:22.680 But we can do it. 00:11:23.280 --> 00:11:27.456 I strongly believe we can translate the science, 00:11:27.480 --> 00:11:31.960 bridge it to policy and make a difference in our environment. 00:11:32.560 --> 00:11:35.016 We all want a clean environment. 00:11:35.040 --> 00:11:37.616 And we can work together to do this 00:11:37.640 --> 00:11:41.936 so that we no longer have these dead zones in the Gulf of Mexico. 00:11:41.960 --> 00:11:43.176 Thank you. 00:11:43.200 --> 00:11:49.280 (Applause)