1 00:00:00,948 --> 00:00:01,671 You're going - 2 00:00:01,671 --> 00:00:02,907 [Music] 3 00:00:02,907 --> 00:00:04,731 So, the internet. 4 00:00:04,731 --> 00:00:09,019 The internet has become this place where anything you want to know, or see, or hear 5 00:00:09,019 --> 00:00:11,367 you can find it online and get it for free 6 00:00:11,367 --> 00:00:12,337 Thing is, 7 00:00:12,337 --> 00:00:14,572 almost none of that stuff is actually free 8 00:00:14,572 --> 00:00:15,634 Because, at the same time 9 00:00:15,634 --> 00:00:16,744 as we're getting all this information, 10 00:00:16,744 --> 00:00:19,288 we're also giving away a lot of our own information 11 00:00:19,288 --> 00:00:21,555 Usually without even realizing that we're giving it away 12 00:00:21,555 --> 00:00:23,811 or realizing that that information we just gave away 13 00:00:23,811 --> 00:00:24,733 is worth money 14 00:00:24,733 --> 00:00:25,766 Lots of money 15 00:00:25,766 --> 00:00:26,638 [Music] 16 00:00:26,638 --> 00:00:28,318 Me personally up until a few years ago, 17 00:00:28,318 --> 00:00:31,061 I never used to even think about discounting at all 18 00:00:31,061 --> 00:00:32,257 I did start thinking about it 19 00:00:32,257 --> 00:00:34,181 because I acted in a movie where 20 00:00:34,181 --> 00:00:35,199 I played Edward Snowden, but 21 00:00:35,199 --> 00:00:37,189 I realized that I think most people just like me, 22 00:00:37,189 --> 00:00:40,140 really don't ... think about this kind of thing 23 00:00:40,140 --> 00:00:40,694 [Music] 24 00:00:40,694 --> 00:00:41,733 So want to make a video 25 00:00:41,733 --> 00:00:43,559 about what all sorts of different people 26 00:00:43,559 --> 00:00:45,071 think about this kind of thing 27 00:00:45,071 --> 00:00:47,537 But myself not even really being an expert about it 28 00:00:47,537 --> 00:00:48,932 I also wanted to bring in 29 00:00:48,932 --> 00:00:51,055 someone who knows an awful lot about the 30 00:00:51,055 --> 00:00:54,169 Internet how it works and how privacy figures into it 31 00:00:54,169 --> 00:00:56,403 She's the director of engineering at Firefox 32 00:00:56,403 --> 00:01:00,098 and her name is Selena Declan - Hi 33 00:01:00,098 --> 00:01:02,599 So to start things off, I asked one simple question: 34 00:01:02,599 --> 00:01:06,404 "Do you even care about online privacy?" 35 00:01:06,404 --> 00:01:09,223 - Well .. 36 00:01:09,223 --> 00:01:14,439 [Music] 37 00:01:14,439 --> 00:01:16,270 Absolutely care about online privacy 38 00:01:16,270 --> 00:01:18,046 I don't want my information compromised 39 00:01:18,046 --> 00:01:19,977 I don't want people taking my identity 40 00:01:19,977 --> 00:01:22,045 Overall, I really don't care 41 00:01:22,045 --> 00:01:24,726 I'll do what I can on my end to protect myself 42 00:01:24,726 --> 00:01:27,513 but I'm not going to worry myself sick about it 43 00:01:27,513 --> 00:01:29,629 I feel like I share a lot of 44 00:01:29,629 --> 00:01:32,006 information online without meaning to, 45 00:01:32,006 --> 00:01:34,364 whenever I buy things online or just 46 00:01:34,364 --> 00:01:36,493 searching sites I don't know how much of 47 00:01:36,493 --> 00:01:38,045 my information is being shared 48 00:01:38,045 --> 00:01:42,834 [Music] 49 00:01:42,834 --> 00:01:45,115 Something that I have noticed when listening to 50 00:01:45,115 --> 00:01:46,786 people's experiences with internet privacy 51 00:01:46,786 --> 00:01:48,943 is that there are a lot of misconceptions 52 00:01:48,943 --> 00:01:53,100 and they don't really understand how things are happening behind the scenes 53 00:01:53,100 --> 00:01:54,549 So I think it's really important 54 00:01:54,549 --> 00:01:56,813 that we have more conversations about this 55 00:01:56,813 --> 00:01:58,674 and explain it for everyone 56 00:01:58,674 --> 00:02:01,767 Selena Deckelmann Firefox, Director of Engineering 57 00:02:02,540 --> 00:02:04,120 Your digital footprint 58 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:08,236 I share ... a lot probably the detriment of my family and friends 59 00:02:08,236 --> 00:02:11,462 Social media kind of has quite us in a position in which 60 00:02:11,462 --> 00:02:12,589 everything can be shared, 61 00:02:12,589 --> 00:02:15,555 in which everything can and does and extent 62 00:02:15,555 --> 00:02:16,677 should be shared 63 00:02:16,677 --> 00:02:18,130 I don't think it's necessarily bad that 64 00:02:18,130 --> 00:02:20,770 there's so much more information out there now than there 65 00:02:20,770 --> 00:02:21,498 ever used to be 66 00:02:21,498 --> 00:02:23,314 It's a question of how that information gets used 67 00:02:23,314 --> 00:02:27,404 and it's sort of up to us to know what's happening 68 00:02:27,404 --> 00:02:29,229 There are a lot of companies out there 69 00:02:29,229 --> 00:02:32,220 capitalizing on these new technologies 70 00:02:32,220 --> 00:02:33,680 My facebook ads have become 71 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:37,361 scarily accurate for what I would buy 72 00:02:37,361 --> 00:02:40,922 I just find it weird when you're not actually 73 00:02:40,922 --> 00:02:44,071 doing anything on the internet in order 74 00:02:44,071 --> 00:02:45,474 for an ad to show up 75 00:02:45,474 --> 00:02:50,102 I don't like the fact that a supermarket can judge 76 00:02:50,102 --> 00:02:52,891 when my monthly cycle is and that's when 77 00:02:52,891 --> 00:02:54,874 they print off the vouchers with my tools, 78 00:02:54,874 --> 00:02:56,915 said for money off sanitary ware 79 00:02:56,915 --> 00:03:00,013 My supermarket knows when I'm going to have a period 80 00:03:00,013 --> 00:03:01,657 The data trail timeline 81 00:03:01,657 --> 00:03:04,498 Sometimes people might feel a little creeped out 82 00:03:04,498 --> 00:03:08,841 by what happens just because they went shopping for something one day 83 00:03:08,841 --> 00:03:10,724 The reality is, in this day and age, 84 00:03:10,724 --> 00:03:14,121 almost everything we do leave some sort of digital footprint 85 00:03:14,121 --> 00:03:16,009 and that data is being collected, 86 00:03:16,009 --> 00:03:17,902 processed, and distributed to third parties 87 00:03:17,902 --> 00:03:19,490 with or without your knowledge 88 00:03:20,343 --> 00:03:23,381 that, example of what happens with a grocery store 89 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:24,553 If you kind of walk through that, 90 00:03:24,553 --> 00:03:25,979 You know, you go to the grocery store 91 00:03:25,979 --> 00:03:28,740 and you have a loyalty card for that store 92 00:03:28,740 --> 00:03:31,103 that has some unique identifier 93 00:03:31,103 --> 00:03:32,478 So, there's probably some sort of number 94 00:03:32,478 --> 00:03:33,721 and then at that point, 95 00:03:33,721 --> 00:03:36,577 the store has uniquely identified you 96 00:03:36,577 --> 00:03:39,237 and they have a database somewhere with that information 97 00:03:39,237 --> 00:03:43,662 and when you checkout, they have a list of everything that you bought 98 00:03:43,662 --> 00:03:46,795 and they will associate that with the loyalty card 99 00:03:47,139 --> 00:03:48,417 So, at that point 100 00:03:48,417 --> 00:03:49,957 they have this little piece of information 101 00:03:49,957 --> 00:03:51,997 and that can be used in a lot of different ways 102 00:03:51,997 --> 00:03:53,612 Some report might get created 103 00:03:53,612 --> 00:03:55,954 That report might be what should we stock next week. 104 00:03:55,954 --> 00:03:58,685 Another report might be what should we advertise to 105 00:03:58,698 --> 00:04:01,427 someone who bought, let's say we bought some tampons 106 00:04:01,455 --> 00:04:05,367 and when should we advertise that to her in the future 107 00:04:05,471 --> 00:04:07,669 and so they've got some algorithm that they're using to generate 108 00:04:07,761 --> 00:04:09,786 that report and then they will send that 109 00:04:09,814 --> 00:04:11,077 off to a third party to do that 110 00:04:11,102 --> 00:04:14,036 advertising. So at that point your data's 111 00:04:14,107 --> 00:04:15,717 kind of out there and you didn't really 112 00:04:15,753 --> 00:04:17,729 ask them to do that. You may or may not 113 00:04:17,764 --> 00:04:19,953 have intended for that to happen but it happened anyway 114 00:04:22,289 --> 00:04:26,020 It sort of feels like this giant mountain we can't do anything about, 115 00:04:26,278 --> 00:04:29,675 and I'm not sure what we could do as a little person. 116 00:04:29,675 --> 00:04:31,511 I pretty much don't share anything online that 117 00:04:31,565 --> 00:04:34,049 I would be upset if it ended up on the 118 00:04:34,133 --> 00:04:35,364 front page of a newspaper. 119 00:04:35,416 --> 00:04:37,844 Everything that I put online is not true, it's not 120 00:04:37,957 --> 00:04:40,301 accurate, and that's the best way to control privacy. 121 00:04:40,366 --> 00:04:46,102 Hi, I'd like to speak to an man names Perry, lastname Noid. Perry Noid. 122 00:04:47,997 --> 00:04:50,070 There's a wide variety of actions 123 00:04:50,070 --> 00:04:51,543 that you can take to protect yourself online. 124 00:04:51,710 --> 00:04:53,475 The first step is just being 125 00:04:53,624 --> 00:04:55,493 generally aware of where you're going 126 00:04:55,575 --> 00:04:57,856 online and what you're clicking on. 127 00:04:58,028 --> 00:05:00,655 It's important for reasons that aren't just 128 00:05:00,683 --> 00:05:02,652 strictly a privacy and data collection, 129 00:05:02,706 --> 00:05:04,434 but also there's this thing called 130 00:05:04,535 --> 00:05:06,681 phishing where people try to get you to 131 00:05:06,897 --> 00:05:08,997 enter in personal information into a 132 00:05:09,085 --> 00:05:10,613 website that you didn't intend. 133 00:05:10,701 --> 00:05:12,699 Other things you can do is using private 134 00:05:12,714 --> 00:05:14,326 browsing mode or something like that in 135 00:05:14,427 --> 00:05:16,152 your browser to restrict the information 136 00:05:16,225 --> 00:05:18,392 that is being shared between multiple 137 00:05:18,408 --> 00:05:20,341 different web sites there are more sort 138 00:05:20,465 --> 00:05:21,856 of like technical things that you can 139 00:05:22,065 --> 00:05:25,843 try, like some people look into VPNs, a virtual private network. 140 00:05:25,843 --> 00:05:28,501 A VPN is a service you can use that is 141 00:05:28,501 --> 00:05:31,782 basically a middleman between you and 142 00:05:31,929 --> 00:05:32,827 the rest of the internet, so that 143 00:05:32,941 --> 00:05:34,324 websites you visit, they think that 144 00:05:34,349 --> 00:05:36,014 you're coming from the VPN provider, not 145 00:05:36,028 --> 00:05:37,440 from where you came from originally. 146 00:05:37,482 --> 00:05:39,644 You can use a VPN when you're maybe in a 147 00:05:39,821 --> 00:05:41,827 place that's unfamiliar and you want to make 148 00:05:41,891 --> 00:05:44,056 sure that your browsing, or maybe you're 149 00:05:44,107 --> 00:05:45,219 checking your email or something like 150 00:05:45,267 --> 00:05:46,938 that, that it's private and secure. 151 00:05:49,109 --> 00:05:50,414 At this point, we all kind of have to 152 00:05:50,414 --> 00:05:53,026 take a step back and say is this what we 153 00:05:53,107 --> 00:05:55,222 want? Is this how we want our information 154 00:05:55,287 --> 00:05:57,792 to be used? Do we want more controls on 155 00:05:57,822 --> 00:06:00,334 this? Do people want to know exactly how 156 00:06:00,417 --> 00:06:02,533 their information is going to get shared? 157 00:06:02,601 --> 00:06:06,182 So, I think my sense from hearing both 158 00:06:06,274 --> 00:06:08,748 the emotion and the content of what 159 00:06:08,809 --> 00:06:10,415 people said, is that people would like to 160 00:06:10,425 --> 00:06:12,079 have a little more control. They would 161 00:06:12,155 --> 00:06:13,980 like to have a little more insight and 162 00:06:14,028 --> 00:06:16,401 hopefully, as time passes we'll find ways 163 00:06:16,449 --> 00:06:17,846 to make that happen. 164 00:06:18,032 --> 00:06:50,560 [Music]