0:00:00.948,0:00:01.671 You're going - 0:00:01.671,0:00:02.907 [Music] 0:00:02.907,0:00:04.731 So, the internet. 0:00:04.731,0:00:09.019 The internet has become this place where [br]anything you want to know, or see, or hear 0:00:09.019,0:00:11.367 you can find it online and get it for free 0:00:11.367,0:00:12.337 Thing is, 0:00:12.337,0:00:14.572 almost none of that stuff is actually free 0:00:14.572,0:00:15.634 Because, at the same time 0:00:15.634,0:00:16.744 as we're getting all this information, 0:00:16.744,0:00:19.288 we're also giving away [br]a lot of our own information 0:00:19.288,0:00:21.555 Usually without even realizing [br]that we're giving it away 0:00:21.555,0:00:23.811 or realizing that that information [br]we just gave away 0:00:23.811,0:00:24.733 is worth money 0:00:24.733,0:00:25.766 Lots of money 0:00:25.766,0:00:26.638 [Music] 0:00:26.638,0:00:28.318 Me personally up until [br]a few years ago, 0:00:28.318,0:00:31.061 I never used to even think about discounting at all 0:00:31.061,0:00:32.257 I did start thinking about it 0:00:32.257,0:00:34.181 because I acted in a movie where 0:00:34.181,0:00:35.199 I played Edward Snowden, but 0:00:35.199,0:00:37.189 I realized that I think most people just like me, 0:00:37.189,0:00:40.140 really don't ... think about this kind of thing 0:00:40.140,0:00:40.694 [Music] 0:00:40.694,0:00:41.733 So want to make a video 0:00:41.733,0:00:43.559 about what all sorts of different people 0:00:43.559,0:00:45.071 think about this kind of thing 0:00:45.071,0:00:47.537 But myself not even really being an expert about it 0:00:47.537,0:00:48.932 I also wanted to bring in 0:00:48.932,0:00:51.055 someone who knows an awful lot about the 0:00:51.055,0:00:54.169 Internet how it works and how privacy figures into it 0:00:54.169,0:00:56.403 She's the director of engineering at Firefox 0:00:56.403,0:01:00.098 and her name is Selena Declan[br]- Hi 0:01:00.098,0:01:02.599 So to start things off,[br]I asked one simple question: 0:01:02.599,0:01:06.404 "Do you even care about online privacy?" 0:01:06.404,0:01:09.223 - Well .. 0:01:09.223,0:01:14.439 [Music] 0:01:14.439,0:01:16.270 Absolutely care about online privacy 0:01:16.270,0:01:18.046 I don't want my information compromised 0:01:18.046,0:01:19.977 I don't want people taking my identity 0:01:19.977,0:01:22.045 Overall, I really don't care 0:01:22.045,0:01:24.726 I'll do what I can on my end to protect myself 0:01:24.726,0:01:27.513 but I'm not going to worry myself sick about it 0:01:27.513,0:01:29.629 I feel like I share a lot of 0:01:29.629,0:01:32.006 information online without meaning to, 0:01:32.006,0:01:34.364 whenever I buy things online or just 0:01:34.364,0:01:36.493 searching sites[br]I don't know how much of 0:01:36.493,0:01:38.045 my information is being shared 0:01:38.045,0:01:42.834 [Music] 0:01:42.834,0:01:45.115 Something that I have noticed when listening to 0:01:45.115,0:01:46.786 people's experiences with internet privacy 0:01:46.786,0:01:48.943 is that there are a lot of misconceptions 0:01:48.943,0:01:53.100 and they don't really understand how things are happening behind the scenes 0:01:53.100,0:01:54.549 So I think it's really important 0:01:54.549,0:01:56.813 that we have more conversations about this 0:01:56.813,0:01:58.674 and explain it for everyone 0:01:58.674,0:02:01.767 Selena Deckelmann[br]Firefox, Director of Engineering 0:02:02.540,0:02:04.120 Your digital footprint 0:02:04.120,0:02:08.236 I share ... a lot[br]probably the detriment of my family and friends 0:02:08.236,0:02:11.462 Social media kind of has quite us in a position[br]in which 0:02:11.462,0:02:12.589 everything can be shared, 0:02:12.589,0:02:15.555 in which everything can and does and extent 0:02:15.555,0:02:16.677 should be shared 0:02:16.677,0:02:18.130 I don't think it's necessarily bad that 0:02:18.130,0:02:20.770 there's so much more information out there now than there 0:02:20.770,0:02:21.498 ever used to be 0:02:21.498,0:02:23.314 It's a question of how that information gets used 0:02:23.314,0:02:27.404 and it's sort of up to us to know what's happening 0:02:27.404,0:02:29.229 There are a lot of companies out there 0:02:29.229,0:02:32.220 capitalizing on these new technologies 0:02:32.220,0:02:33.680 My facebook ads have become 0:02:33.680,0:02:37.361 scarily accurate for what I would buy 0:02:37.361,0:02:40.922 I just find it weird when you're not actually 0:02:40.922,0:02:44.071 doing anything on the internet in order 0:02:44.071,0:02:45.474 for an ad to show up 0:02:45.474,0:02:50.102 I don't like the fact that a supermarket can judge 0:02:50.102,0:02:52.891 when my monthly cycle is and that's when 0:02:52.891,0:02:54.874 they print off the vouchers with my tools, 0:02:54.874,0:02:56.915 said for money off sanitary ware 0:02:56.915,0:03:00.013 My supermarket knows when I'm going to have a period 0:03:00.013,0:03:01.657 The data trail timeline 0:03:01.657,0:03:04.498 Sometimes people might feel a little creeped out 0:03:04.498,0:03:08.841 by what happens just because they went shopping for something one day 0:03:08.841,0:03:10.724 The reality is, in this day and age, 0:03:10.724,0:03:14.121 almost everything we do leave some sort of digital footprint 0:03:14.121,0:03:16.009 and that data is being collected, 0:03:16.009,0:03:17.902 processed, and distributed to third parties 0:03:17.902,0:03:19.490 with or without your knowledge 0:03:20.343,0:03:23.381 that, example of what happens with a grocery store 0:03:23.520,0:03:24.553 If you kind of walk through that, 0:03:24.553,0:03:25.979 You know, you go to the grocery store 0:03:25.979,0:03:28.740 and you have a loyalty card for that store 0:03:28.740,0:03:31.103 that has some unique identifier 0:03:31.103,0:03:32.478 So, there's probably some sort of number 0:03:32.478,0:03:33.721 and then at that point, 0:03:33.721,0:03:36.577 the store has uniquely identified you 0:03:36.577,0:03:39.237 and they have a database somewhere with that information 0:03:39.237,0:03:43.662 and when you checkout, they have [br]a list of everything that you bought 0:03:43.662,0:03:46.795 and they will associate that with the loyalty card 0:03:47.139,0:03:48.417 So, at that point 0:03:48.417,0:03:49.957 they have this little piece of information 0:03:49.957,0:03:51.997 and that can be used in a lot of different ways 0:03:51.997,0:03:53.612 Some report might get created 0:03:53.612,0:03:55.954 That report might be what[br]should we stock next week. 0:03:55.954,0:03:58.685 Another report might be [br]what should we advertise to 0:03:58.698,0:04:01.427 someone who bought, let's say [br]we bought some tampons 0:04:01.455,0:04:05.367 and when should we advertise [br]that to her in the future 0:04:05.471,0:04:07.669 and so they've got some[br]algorithm that they're using to generate 0:04:07.761,0:04:09.786 that report and then they will send that 0:04:09.814,0:04:11.077 off to a third party to do that 0:04:11.102,0:04:14.036 advertising. So at that point your data's 0:04:14.107,0:04:15.717 kind of out there and you didn't really 0:04:15.753,0:04:17.729 ask them to do that. You may or may not 0:04:17.764,0:04:19.953 have intended for that to happen[br]but it happened anyway 0:04:22.289,0:04:26.020 It sort of feels like this giant [br]mountain we can't do anything about, 0:04:26.278,0:04:29.675 and I'm not sure what we [br]could do as a little person. 0:04:29.675,0:04:31.511 I pretty much don't share anything online that 0:04:31.565,0:04:34.049 I would be upset if it ended up on the 0:04:34.133,0:04:35.364 front page of a newspaper. 0:04:35.416,0:04:37.844 Everything that I put online is not true, it's not 0:04:37.957,0:04:40.301 accurate, and that's the [br]best way to control privacy. 0:04:40.366,0:04:46.102 Hi, I'd like to speak to an man names[br]Perry, lastname Noid. Perry Noid. 0:04:47.997,0:04:50.070 There's a wide variety of actions 0:04:50.070,0:04:51.543 that you can take to [br]protect yourself online. 0:04:51.710,0:04:53.475 The first step is just being 0:04:53.624,0:04:55.493 generally aware of where you're going 0:04:55.575,0:04:57.856 online and what you're clicking on. 0:04:58.028,0:05:00.655 It's important for reasons that aren't just 0:05:00.683,0:05:02.652 strictly a privacy and data collection, 0:05:02.706,0:05:04.434 but also there's this thing called 0:05:04.535,0:05:06.681 phishing where people try to get you to 0:05:06.897,0:05:08.997 enter in personal information into a 0:05:09.085,0:05:10.613 website that you didn't intend. 0:05:10.701,0:05:12.699 Other things you can do is using private 0:05:12.714,0:05:14.326 browsing mode or something like that in 0:05:14.427,0:05:16.152 your browser to restrict the information 0:05:16.225,0:05:18.392 that is being shared between multiple 0:05:18.408,0:05:20.341 different web sites there are more sort 0:05:20.465,0:05:21.856 of like technical things that you can 0:05:22.065,0:05:25.843 try, like some people look into VPNs,[br]a virtual private network. 0:05:25.843,0:05:28.501 A VPN is a service you can use that is 0:05:28.501,0:05:31.782 basically a middleman between you and 0:05:31.929,0:05:32.827 the rest of the internet, so that 0:05:32.941,0:05:34.324 websites you visit, they think that 0:05:34.349,0:05:36.014 you're coming from the VPN provider, not 0:05:36.028,0:05:37.440 from where you came from originally. 0:05:37.482,0:05:39.644 You can use a VPN when you're maybe in a 0:05:39.821,0:05:41.827 place that's unfamiliar and you want to make 0:05:41.891,0:05:44.056 sure that your browsing, or maybe you're 0:05:44.107,0:05:45.219 checking your email or something like 0:05:45.267,0:05:46.938 that, that it's private and secure. 0:05:49.109,0:05:50.414 At this point, we all kind of have to 0:05:50.414,0:05:53.026 take a step back and say is this what we 0:05:53.107,0:05:55.222 want? Is this how we want our information 0:05:55.287,0:05:57.792 to be used? Do we want more controls on 0:05:57.822,0:06:00.334 this? Do people want to know exactly how 0:06:00.417,0:06:02.533 their information is going to get shared? 0:06:02.601,0:06:06.182 So, I think my sense from hearing both 0:06:06.274,0:06:08.748 the emotion and the content of what 0:06:08.809,0:06:10.415 people said, is that people would like to 0:06:10.425,0:06:12.079 have a little more control. They would 0:06:12.155,0:06:13.980 like to have a little more insight and 0:06:14.028,0:06:16.401 hopefully, as time passes we'll find ways 0:06:16.449,0:06:17.846 to make that happen. 0:06:18.032,0:06:50.560 [Music]