[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:04.54,0:00:10.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Javed Ahmed Ghamidi] Gratitude is only\Nfor God, the Lord of the Worlds. Dialogue: 0,0:00:10.49,0:00:15.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,May peace and mercy be upon Muhammad,\NHis Trustworthy. Dialogue: 0,0:00:15.71,0:00:19.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I seek refuge with God from the accursed\NDevil. Dialogue: 0,0:00:19.83,0:00:24.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the name of God, the Most Gracious,\Nthe Most Merciful. Dialogue: 0,0:00:24.37,0:00:32.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ladies and Gentlemen, we are studying\NSurah Tawbah from Ayah 61. Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.91,0:00:37.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have already mentioned that up to the\Nend of this Surah Dialogue: 0,0:00:37.98,0:00:43.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the issue of the hypocrites is under\Nthe discussion. Dialogue: 0,0:00:43.28,0:00:52.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This Surah is about the manifestation of\NGod's wrath, and reward and punishment. Dialogue: 0,0:00:52.58,0:00:59.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,By the means of the Prophet, the dealing\Nof reward and punishment that happened Dialogue: 0,0:00:59.32,0:01:07.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the people of Arab, that is detailed\Nin this Surah. Dialogue: 0,0:01:07.44,0:01:17.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, as such it has become a microcosm of\NQayamah-i-Kubra, a miniature of Qayamah, Dialogue: 0,0:01:17.24,0:01:24.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which was unleashed unto Arab, and by\Nlooking into its account we might learn Dialogue: 0,0:01:24.24,0:01:36.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that how things will be when the Lord of\Nthe Worlds will do the Last Judgement. Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.27,0:01:43.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Those who rebelled against God, and made\Npolytheism their religion, Dialogue: 0,0:01:43.71,0:01:49.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their fate was narrated. Those who were\Nengaged in polytheism, Dialogue: 0,0:01:49.74,0:01:54.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and had been deceitful in their conduct\Ntoward the religion, Dialogue: 0,0:01:54.82,0:02:00.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but used to identify themselves as\Nbelievers and proclaim faith in Tawhid, Dialogue: 0,0:02:00.21,0:02:05.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and believed in the Prophets—that is the\NPeople of the Book— Dialogue: 0,0:02:05.45,0:02:11.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was told how they would be dealt with.\NNow, the hypocrites are under discussion. Dialogue: 0,0:02:11.83,0:02:18.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then, those will be brought in discussion\Nwho were sincerely devoted to the Prophet, Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.77,0:02:25.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but fell into a serious error. So, how God\Ndealt with them then. Dialogue: 0,0:02:25.15,0:02:35.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Evidently, it can be learnt from that how\Nsuch people will be dealt with in Qayamah. Dialogue: 0,0:02:35.69,0:02:42.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The conduct which the hypocrites followed\Ntoward the Holy Prophet, Dialogue: 0,0:02:42.43,0:02:48.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is being detailed by the Glorious\NQuran without specifying anyone by name. Dialogue: 0,0:02:48.79,0:02:54.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Many such examples have passed earlier,\Nand among them was a big one that Dialogue: 0,0:02:54.15,0:03:01.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these hypocrites started such propaganda\Nabout the Prophet that Dialogue: 0,0:03:01.49,0:03:08.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the collection from Zakah and Sadaqah that\Nare deposited in the state treasury Dialogue: 0,0:03:08.94,0:03:17.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that are not being spent justly. And, in\Nparticular they intended to suggest, Dialogue: 0,0:03:17.56,0:03:27.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they were ignored. The Glorious Quran\Nresponded to that, and informed that Dialogue: 0,0:03:27.76,0:03:37.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the collections from Sadaqah, Zakah, and\Nothers that are deposited in treasury— Dialogue: 0,0:03:37.77,0:03:41.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or as they are received by the treasury—no\None person has a right on them. Dialogue: 0,0:03:41.29,0:03:49.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Neither that can be spent to satisfy the\Npeople's greed. These are trusted assets, Dialogue: 0,0:03:49.91,0:03:55.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and their expenditures are fixed. Then,\Nit was narrated what are that expenses. Dialogue: 0,0:03:55.53,0:04:02.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The government formed in the leadership\Nof the Prophet (Peace Be Upon Him), Dialogue: 0,0:04:02.46,0:04:09.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how is it spending the money received from\Nthe people, we've discussed it in detail. Dialogue: 0,0:04:09.76,0:04:16.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In general view, this Ayah is from where\Nthe expenditures of Zakah are derived. Dialogue: 0,0:04:16.13,0:04:21.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have attempted to explain that the real\Nsignificance of the Ayah is not so, Dialogue: 0,0:04:21.30,0:04:25.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that it has been revealed to describe the\Nexpenditures of Zakah. Dialogue: 0,0:04:25.10,0:04:30.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The real implication of the Ayah is, that\Nit has come to reveal, Dialogue: 0,0:04:30.30,0:04:36.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how the collections from Zakah are being\Nspent in the present context. Dialogue: 0,0:04:36.28,0:04:40.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, in relation to that, another point \Nbecame clear as well, Dialogue: 0,0:04:40.66,0:04:45.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that what is the kind of responsibility\NGod has determined for the state, Dialogue: 0,0:04:45.77,0:04:50.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and where and how it can spend from\Nthe treasury. Dialogue: 0,0:04:50.53,0:04:54.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,After that, another conduct of theirs is\Nthe point of discussion. Dialogue: 0,0:04:54.93,0:05:01.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,God said: 'Wa minhumul lazina yu'zunan\Nnabiya wa yaquluna huwa uzun.' Dialogue: 0,0:05:01.55,0:05:10.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Among them are those who hurt the Prophet,\Ntorment Him, with their tongue; Dialogue: 0,0:05:10.58,0:05:18.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and, they say, this Person is all ears.\NNow, I have explained in the last session, Dialogue: 0,0:05:18.60,0:05:24.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,though it is a remark of compliment and\None could say it in that sense, Dialogue: 0,0:05:24.87,0:05:31.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it can be used in a sarcastic manner, and\Nthat the hypocrites used to do. Dialogue: 0,0:05:31.42,0:05:36.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Before this, it has been mentioned in\Nother Surahs as well that, Dialogue: 0,0:05:36.21,0:05:44.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by taking advantage of certain idioms of\Nmanners and the aristocratic culture, Dialogue: 0,0:05:44.72,0:05:52.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they would ridicule, and had a disdainful\Nattitude toward the Prophet (pbuh). Dialogue: 0,0:05:52.30,0:06:00.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is easier to do so as it is veiled, so\Nif one is asked or made accountable, Dialogue: 0,0:06:00.12,0:06:03.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as what is the meaning of your comment,\Nor what do you mean by saying this. Dialogue: 0,0:06:03.68,0:06:11.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then, one has this liberty to explain it\Nthat otherwise that he meant such and so, Dialogue: 0,0:06:11.06,0:06:16.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nevertheless it is obviously understood\Nwhat is being suggested. Dialogue: 0,0:06:16.49,0:06:23.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Glorious Quran says, when they say\Nthat this Person is all ears, Dialogue: 0,0:06:23.19,0:06:30.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you see from one angle it would seem as\Nif, 'whoever approaches Him, Dialogue: 0,0:06:30.04,0:06:37.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,says anything to Him, He listens to them\Nwith care, attention and affection'. Dialogue: 0,0:06:37.59,0:06:42.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If the same remark is stated in a\Ndifferent manner, it would mean as if, Dialogue: 0,0:06:42.41,0:06:50.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'He in fact does not possess any divine\Ninsight, or any understanding of matters, Dialogue: 0,0:06:50.84,0:06:57.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nor He is able to judge things and people,\Nall He is just naive and simpleton, Dialogue: 0,0:06:57.03,0:07:02.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and would listen to anything said by\Nanyone, and would judge on that basis'. Dialogue: 0,0:07:02.64,0:07:06.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thus, the same statement that had a\Ngracefulness about it, Dialogue: 0,0:07:06.53,0:07:12.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or could have been an eulogy for the\Neminent personality of the Last Prophet, Dialogue: 0,0:07:12.21,0:07:18.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when the same is said from another point,\Nit becomes a ridicule, and disdainful. Dialogue: 0,0:07:18.06,0:07:22.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, the Glorious Quran states what these\Npeople say as that; Dialogue: 0,0:07:22.85,0:07:26.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,now it responds to what they say, and look\Nat this how wonderfully it has done so— Dialogue: 0,0:07:26.70,0:07:34.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have explained earlier as what they\Nsuggested by 'this Person is all ears'— Dialogue: 0,0:07:34.43,0:07:38.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'qul uzunu khairil lakum yuminu billaahi\Nwa yuminu lil muminina Dialogue: 0,0:07:38.86,0:07:42.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wa rahmatul lil lazina aamanu minkum'. Dialogue: 0,0:07:42.28,0:07:48.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, tell them, those ears for your good.\NThat it, do respond to them so. Dialogue: 0,0:07:48.50,0:07:53.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the present times, the religious\Nextremists with regard to these issues Dialogue: 0,0:07:53.21,0:07:57.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have adopted a rhetoric of death threats.\NBut, look at here for a moment, Dialogue: 0,0:07:57.37,0:08:01.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how serious the insolence is! And, how\Ndespicable the jeering is! Dialogue: 0,0:08:01.68,0:08:07.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the Providence, the Knower of the\NHearts, is making the observation Himself! Dialogue: 0,0:08:07.36,0:08:11.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,However, do note the commentary as well:\N'qul uzunu khairil lakum'. Dialogue: 0,0:08:11.33,0:08:14.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, tell them, they are for your own good\N(i.e. the Prophet's ears). Dialogue: 0,0:08:14.58,0:08:19.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, why do He listens to them?\NBecause His faith is in God, Dialogue: 0,0:08:19.90,0:08:28.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He trusts whoever is faithful to God, and\NHe is all-blessing for those who believe. Dialogue: 0,0:08:28.75,0:08:36.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, this is how the Prophet's attitude is,\Nthat constitutes his kind leadership, Dialogue: 0,0:08:36.49,0:08:42.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is the conduct which is praised\Nelsewhere too, and it is said, Dialogue: 0,0:08:42.13,0:08:53.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that if a Prophet was rude or strict even\Nin the least, nobody would approach Him. Dialogue: 0,0:08:53.23,0:09:01.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Affection, kindness, mercy, trust in\Nfriends and dear ones— Dialogue: 0,0:09:01.12,0:09:09.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as it has been said in a Hadith, that for\Na good ruler, or leader, or guide, Dialogue: 0,0:09:09.00,0:09:13.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is a most unbefitting attitude that\Nhe finds fault with people. Dialogue: 0,0:09:13.16,0:09:18.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rather he engages in good faith only. So,\Nthe Glorious Quran has referred to that. Dialogue: 0,0:09:18.69,0:09:25.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have written on this that this is a most\Ncomprehensive response to the hypocrites— Dialogue: 0,0:09:25.47,0:09:29.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they have been answered,\Nand with eloquence. Dialogue: 0,0:09:29.64,0:09:42.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For the matter, as they say He is all\Nears, and that He is indeed. But why? Dialogue: 0,0:09:42.05,0:09:45.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you hypocrites valued this merciful\Nand kind personality, Dialogue: 0,0:09:45.50,0:09:51.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then you would know that it is for your\Nown good that He is all ears, that is why. Dialogue: 0,0:09:51.96,0:09:56.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Listening to everything and responding to\Nit with affection— Dialogue: 0,0:09:56.74,0:10:03.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this conduct is for your good, for your\Nmercy. Anything good from your side, Dialogue: 0,0:10:03.39,0:10:11.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,any news of your good deeds and goodwill,\NHe is always ready to listen that. Dialogue: 0,0:10:11.22,0:10:15.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that it does not become an issue to win\Nthe people's confidence, Dialogue: 0,0:10:15.51,0:10:24.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or, by believing in rumors, of hurting\Nthe trust of a faithful companion. Dialogue: 0,0:10:24.67,0:10:33.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is when something good, deed or will,\Nreaches to Him, then He thanks God. Dialogue: 0,0:10:33.11,0:10:41.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is not that He is all ears to listen\Nabout all your misdeeds and conspiracies, Dialogue: 0,0:10:41.22,0:10:46.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that whatever the inputs He thus receives\Nwould be treasured as a souvenir. Dialogue: 0,0:10:46.26,0:10:50.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is, He does not pay attention to\Nvices, but when it is something good— Dialogue: 0,0:10:50.56,0:10:57.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be skeptical about it, to investigate\Nit further, to pick out faults within it— Dialogue: 0,0:10:57.54,0:11:01.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is not the conduct of our Prophet.\NIf it is a good, then it is just so. Dialogue: 0,0:11:01.97,0:11:05.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the regard of good, as it has been\Nrelated in narration, Dialogue: 0,0:11:05.67,0:11:11.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a Muslim by disposition is guileless, and\Nthat is what one ought to be. Dialogue: 0,0:11:11.41,0:11:16.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, it is not for the vice, but for the\Ngood, so the people trust him. Dialogue: 0,0:11:16.86,0:11:26.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thus was the response by God, and then\Nadded: in who does He put His faith in? Dialogue: 0,0:11:26.76,0:11:29.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is, in God, and those who are\Nthe believers. Dialogue: 0,0:11:29.82,0:11:36.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He is all-blessing for those who have\Ntruly put their faith in God. Dialogue: 0,0:11:36.68,0:11:45.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, if you pay attention, those who are\Ntrue believers they deserve such trust, Dialogue: 0,0:11:45.75,0:11:52.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they should be given this confidence, and\Nthey should be trusted as such. Dialogue: 0,0:11:52.64,0:11:58.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, it is told, in them the Prophet puts\NHis trust, and listens to them. Dialogue: 0,0:11:58.45,0:12:04.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here is a note on this: that if a news of\Nmisdeed reaches Him from a nobody, Dialogue: 0,0:12:04.92,0:12:08.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then He doesn't just believe it—it is\Nspecified whom He trusts. Dialogue: 0,0:12:08.90,0:12:14.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That if a news of misdeed reaches Him from\Na nobody, He doesn't just believe it. Dialogue: 0,0:12:14.94,0:12:20.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He believes in God, and nevertheless He\Ntrusts those who are the true believers. Dialogue: 0,0:12:20.74,0:12:30.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What has been reached from the Providence,\Nand from the believers, He does trust. Dialogue: 0,0:12:30.41,0:12:38.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hence, when it is from them, He indeed\Naccepts it. He is not your ill-wisher. Dialogue: 0,0:12:38.15,0:12:44.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Instead, you could see, among you who have\Naccepted the faith in the right manner, Dialogue: 0,0:12:44.22,0:12:51.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for them He is all-blessing. Here, the\Nethical arc of the Prophet's character, Dialogue: 0,0:12:51.56,0:12:56.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,especially with regard to leadership, has\Nbeen so distinctly portrayed. Dialogue: 0,0:12:56.89,0:13:03.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,God bless you, that by reforming yourself\Nyou too can become deserving of His favor. Dialogue: 0,0:13:03.56,0:13:09.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is, as you say that when this or that\Nperson said such and so— Dialogue: 0,0:13:09.40,0:13:14.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the one suggested here was definitely\Na believer, or a Companion of the Prophet— Dialogue: 0,0:13:14.95,0:13:24.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and He readily accepts them. And, then\Nyou object that He doesn't trust you. Dialogue: 0,0:13:24.28,0:13:31.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, thus God responded, if by reforming\Nyourself you become rightful in conduct, Dialogue: 0,0:13:31.20,0:13:36.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the blessing and affection others receive\Nfrom the Prophet can be given to you too. Dialogue: 0,0:13:36.96,0:13:44.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To note here, that in the Ayah, 'imaan' is\Nfollowed by both 'be' and 'laam'. Dialogue: 0,0:13:44.74,0:13:53.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'be' is meant for accepting the faith, and\N'laam' is for just believing anybody, Dialogue: 0,0:13:53.50,0:14:00.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our translation is according to that. So,\N'one who believes' is a different case, Dialogue: 0,0:14:00.25,0:14:05.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and 'to just believe' has a different\Nconnotation. The same verb is used, Dialogue: 0,0:14:05.25,0:14:11.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but a change in conjunction or\Npreposition makes the difference. Dialogue: 0,0:14:11.60,0:14:19.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If 'amina bi' is said, then it means to\Nbelieve, to accept, to put faith; Dialogue: 0,0:14:19.28,0:14:28.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and if it is 'amina li', then it means\Nto accept any thing that is said. Dialogue: 0,0:14:28.25,0:14:32.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Wallazina yuzuna rasul-allaahi lahum\Nazaabun aleem'. Dialogue: 0,0:14:32.45,0:14:39.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Afterward, it is said, having thus spoken\Nof the personality of the Prophet, Dialogue: 0,0:14:39.85,0:14:47.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as why and to whom He listens, do know\Nthis as well that whatever you do— Dialogue: 0,0:14:47.91,0:14:56.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and do you even think for once?—this is\Ndistressful and hurtful to the Prophet. Dialogue: 0,0:14:56.67,0:15:06.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To hurt as one as the Last Prophet of God!\NAnd, you think it would be just excused? Dialogue: 0,0:15:06.92,0:15:11.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This will have consequences on the Last\NDay, and do listen to what it is: Dialogue: 0,0:15:11.98,0:15:17.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those who hurt the Messenger will have\Na grievous penalty. Dialogue: 0,0:15:17.33,0:15:27.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thus, it was told that to hurt and trouble\Na Messenger, that is a most serious sin. Dialogue: 0,0:15:27.08,0:15:40.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But as to its consequences, and to not\Nenable encroachment of religion and law, Dialogue: 0,0:15:40.61,0:15:42.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that will be revealed by God on\Nthe Last Day. Dialogue: 0,0:15:42.92,0:15:52.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'walahum azaabun aleem', that means\Ngrievous penalty. Excuse me! Dialogue: 0,0:15:52.37,0:16:00.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Yahlifuna billaahi lakum liyurdukum'.\NBefore you, they swear by the name of God, Dialogue: 0,0:16:00.35,0:16:08.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that they make you please. That is,\Nwhen some of their plots are exposed, Dialogue: 0,0:16:08.99,0:16:16.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,any activity is being questioned, and some\Nconduct of their has raised suspicion, Dialogue: 0,0:16:16.31,0:16:20.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even common people begin to doubt\Nthem. Dialogue: 0,0:16:20.55,0:16:30.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, it is said, they swear by God to\Nplease, to make themselves trustworthy. Dialogue: 0,0:16:30.76,0:16:35.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is self-evident, as to why they had\Nadopted hypocrisy, Dialogue: 0,0:16:35.31,0:16:46.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because social and political conditions\Nchanged. To maintain their status quo, Dialogue: 0,0:16:46.76,0:16:55.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to remain acceptable in public, and to\Ntake benefit from whatever they could, Dialogue: 0,0:16:55.16,0:17:00.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was inevitable to please the Muslims,\Nso they are trusted. Dialogue: 0,0:17:00.42,0:17:07.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, it is told, whenever such a situation\Narises, they come to you and swear by God, Dialogue: 0,0:17:07.70,0:17:15.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and their aim is to please the Muslims. On\Nthis too, an excellent remark is made: Dialogue: 0,0:17:15.31,0:17:20.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Wallaahu wa rasuluhu ahaqqu aiyurduhu\Nin kaanoo muminin'. Dialogue: 0,0:17:20.82,0:17:25.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even if they are believers—for they claim\Nthey have accepted the religion— Dialogue: 0,0:17:25.43,0:17:29.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is befitting that they should please\NAllah and His Messenger. Dialogue: 0,0:17:29.33,0:17:34.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is, why do they come to you Muslims,\Nas what would happen by pleasing you? Dialogue: 0,0:17:34.48,0:17:39.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Pleasing and displeasing you are related\Nto the affairs of the world, Dialogue: 0,0:17:39.39,0:17:45.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the religion is not an affair of the\Nworld. It is for pleasing God, Dialogue: 0,0:17:45.84,0:17:51.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and its result would be declared on the\NDay of Resurrection. Dialogue: 0,0:17:51.89,0:17:57.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if they are indeed believers as they\Nclaim in the name of God, Dialogue: 0,0:17:57.18,0:18:03.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they should have put their efforts in\Npleasing Allah and His Messenger. Dialogue: 0,0:18:03.63,0:18:08.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, instead of turning to God and\Nthe Prophet (pbuh), they come to you. Dialogue: 0,0:18:08.79,0:18:16.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here is one more interesting thing, though\Nit is said, 'Wallaahu wa rasuluhu ahaq', Dialogue: 0,0:18:16.66,0:18:22.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but when comes the verb of 'yurduhu',\Nit was not said as 'yuruduhu huma'. Dialogue: 0,0:18:22.28,0:18:27.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is, it was not said to agree both,\Nfor the pronoun is singular. Dialogue: 0,0:18:27.78,0:18:32.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have noted here that the term used\Nis 'yurduhu', Dialogue: 0,0:18:32.26,0:18:38.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as God and the Prophet are mentioned\Nearlier but the pronoun here is singular, Dialogue: 0,0:18:38.56,0:18:43.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so it is meant as to please that one.\NIf we pay attention, Dialogue: 0,0:18:43.94,0:18:48.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is a criticism on the conduct of\Nthe hypocrites, Dialogue: 0,0:18:48.90,0:18:55.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as it hints to the fact that God and the\NProphet's approval is the same. Dialogue: 0,0:18:55.05,0:19:02.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Such eloquent and suggestive style has\Nbeen used on many occasions in the Quran, Dialogue: 0,0:19:02.29,0:19:09.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where just by a change in the pronoun or\Ndiction, an important point is made. Dialogue: 0,0:19:09.99,0:19:14.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here, the suggestion is that if you please\NGod, the Prophet is pleased too; Dialogue: 0,0:19:14.95,0:19:18.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and if you please the Prophet, then God is\Npleased too, as both are one in this. Dialogue: 0,0:19:18.74,0:19:20.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Gufta' oo Gufta' Allah Buwad'. Dialogue: 0,0:19:20.95,0:19:29.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thus, if they were indeed believers, they\Nwould turn to God and the Prophet, Dialogue: 0,0:19:29.85,0:19:42.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and not where as they have now, and it is\Nfor in pleasing or displeasing Muslims, Dialogue: 0,0:19:42.88,0:19:48.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their worldly interests depend. God and\Nthe Prophet, if they had true belief, Dialogue: 0,0:19:48.52,0:19:54.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would have the foremost recipients of\Ntheir attention, but they did not do so. Dialogue: 0,0:19:54.96,0:19:59.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, if we review the statement, it does\Ncriticize the conduct of the hypocrites. Dialogue: 0,0:19:59.50,0:20:06.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My mentor (Amin Islahi) writes, that often\Na man's excuse for sin is his worst sin. Dialogue: 0,0:20:06.15,0:20:12.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If one is made aware of his sin, and one\Ntries to give pretext for that, Dialogue: 0,0:20:12.42,0:20:20.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that consequently increased the sin\Nin its severity. Dialogue: 0,0:20:20.64,0:20:27.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, often a man's excuse for sin is his\Nworst sin, worse than the actual sin. Dialogue: 0,0:20:27.33,0:20:37.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The means that hypocrites adopted to give\Na pretext, that made them more culpable. Dialogue: 0,0:20:37.18,0:20:45.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If they were honest, truthful and right,\Nthey'd try to please God and the Prophet. Dialogue: 0,0:20:45.63,0:20:52.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ahead those will be discussed who were\Nindeed truthful, whose faith was firm, Dialogue: 0,0:20:52.64,0:20:58.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but they fell in serious error, as how was\Ntheir conduct, what means they adopted, Dialogue: 0,0:20:58.57,0:21:08.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from whom they sought approval and, when\Nthey were caste out, how did they live— Dialogue: 0,0:21:08.28,0:21:16.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is an extraordinary narrative. So, in\Nthis Surah, they too will be discussed. Dialogue: 0,0:21:16.27,0:21:24.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The means that hypocrites adopted to give\Na pretext, that made them more culpable. Dialogue: 0,0:21:24.41,0:21:28.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If they were honest, truthful and right,\Nthey'd try to please God and the Prophet, Dialogue: 0,0:21:28.48,0:21:38.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,instead of swearing falsely to prove their\Ninnocence, and the Prophet as credulous. Dialogue: 0,0:21:38.47,0:21:42.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, what were they doing?\NThey would approach to Muslims and say: Dialogue: 0,0:21:42.90,0:21:51.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Prophet's displeasure is just for He\Nlistens to anyone, but we are sincere. Dialogue: 0,0:21:51.98,0:21:58.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, on one side, they would mock the\NProphet; on other, would please Muslims. Dialogue: 0,0:21:58.91,0:22:04.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This was such a malicious propaganda\Nagainst the Prophet, Dialogue: 0,0:22:04.00,0:22:08.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that both the aims are achieved at\Nonce: their interests remain protected— Dialogue: 0,0:22:08.94,0:22:17.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the people be pleased as well, if they\Nhave any doubts that be dispelled— Dialogue: 0,0:22:17.26,0:22:22.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the Prophet is targeted as well.\NTo achieve both these aims, Dialogue: 0,0:22:22.86,0:22:28.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that was the malicious plot, which is\Nexposed here in the Glorious Quran. Dialogue: 0,0:22:28.93,0:22:34.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,God said: 'Alam yalamu annahu mai yuhaadi\Ndillaha wa rasulahu Dialogue: 0,0:22:34.77,0:22:40.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fa anna lahu naara jahannama khaalidan\Nfihaa; zaalikal khizyul azeem.' Dialogue: 0,0:22:40.100,0:22:49.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Don't they know for them who oppose God\Nand His Prophet, there is Fire of Hell, Dialogue: 0,0:22:49.99,0:22:53.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wherein they shall dwell forever?\NThis is such a terrible disgrace. Dialogue: 0,0:22:53.83,0:23:02.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The manner, in which I have translated it,\Nyet lacks to express the intensity here. Dialogue: 0,0:23:02.41,0:23:05.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Alam yalamu annahu mai yuhaadi\Ndillaha wa rasulahu Dialogue: 0,0:23:05.73,0:23:10.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fa anna lahu naara jahannama khaalidan\Nfihaa'. Here, before 'fa anna lahu', Dialogue: 0,0:23:10.62,0:23:17.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a phrase has been added that needs to be\Nrepeated for emphasis—'don't they know'. Dialogue: 0,0:23:17.54,0:23:24.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That, as if they don't know, for each line\Nof the Quran states this fact, Dialogue: 0,0:23:24.90,0:23:33.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that one ought to be firm on truth, then\Nmistakes would be pardoned, Dialogue: 0,0:23:33.41,0:23:36.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,negligence would be excused, and your\Nrepentance would be accepted as well, Dialogue: 0,0:23:36.94,0:23:42.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and God would clear your path, and you\Nwould receive blessings on every step. Dialogue: 0,0:23:42.32,0:23:47.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, if one is not firm on truth, then\Neven the mark on your forehead, Dialogue: 0,0:23:47.22,0:23:50.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a sign of constant prostration before\NGod, cannot save one from the Hell. Dialogue: 0,0:23:50.84,0:23:55.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The real point is, where does on stand in\None's Baatin (what is in the heart). Dialogue: 0,0:23:55.02,0:24:01.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,God said, if you hypocrites really think\Nthat you come to the mosque for prayers, Dialogue: 0,0:24:01.27,0:24:06.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and spend some for formality, and God\Nwould be pleased to see that; Dialogue: 0,0:24:06.59,0:24:10.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,God sees your Baatin as what is therein\Nfor God and His Prophet— Dialogue: 0,0:24:10.37,0:24:14.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,trust, love, faith and truth—this God\Nwould see. Dialogue: 0,0:24:14.90,0:24:20.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hence, those who oppose God and\Nthe Prophet, and are their enemies, Dialogue: 0,0:24:20.14,0:24:23.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they do not know that a sort of\NQayamah is unleashed here, Dialogue: 0,0:24:23.54,0:24:25.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what shall be its consequence? Dialogue: 0,0:24:25.48,0:24:29.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, for them is the Fire of Hell, wherein\Nthey shall dwell forever. Dialogue: 0,0:24:29.15,0:24:34.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then, God said: 'zaalikal khizyul azeem.' \NHere you hypocrites take it for trivial, Dialogue: 0,0:24:34.60,0:24:38.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but when the eternal punishment will be\Nrevealed, it will be a terrible disgrace, Dialogue: 0,0:24:38.64,0:24:45.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you cannot fathom it. Here, for the\Nstudents of Arabic, there is a note: Dialogue: 0,0:24:45.100,0:24:48.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the Ayah, 'fa anna' is in conjunction\Nwith 'fa annahu'; Dialogue: 0,0:24:48.77,0:24:57.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the term 'yuhadidi' describes that\Nconflict where one is a rival to other. Dialogue: 0,0:24:57.00,0:25:02.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, a peculiar sentence is used here,\Nand it should be understood, Dialogue: 0,0:25:02.76,0:25:07.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the grand style of the Ayah is not\Nfelt without it. Dialogue: 0,0:25:07.71,0:25:14.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Afterward, as said that this is a terrible\Ndisgrace, I have elaborated on this— Dialogue: 0,0:25:14.25,0:25:20.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as to however hard they are trying to save\Nthemselves here from the disgrace— Dialogue: 0,0:25:20.21,0:25:23.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the statement is made in a\Ncomparative manner. Dialogue: 0,0:25:23.35,0:25:31.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, why did they please Muslims? To save\Nthemselves from disgrace in the world. Dialogue: 0,0:25:31.69,0:25:35.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, for them, the disgrace in this world\Nwas that important, Dialogue: 0,0:25:35.88,0:25:40.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that lest their hypocrisy be exposed and\Nthey be suspected, Dialogue: 0,0:25:40.34,0:25:47.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and their public image be not sullied. So,\Nthey are cautious for that in this world. Dialogue: 0,0:25:47.61,0:25:52.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, however hard they are trying to save\Nthemselves here from the disgrace, Dialogue: 0,0:25:52.36,0:25:57.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a disgrace worse than that awaits them\Nin the end. And, they should think, Dialogue: 0,0:25:57.100,0:26:03.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what plan do they have to save themselves\Nfrom that disgrace. Dialogue: 0,0:26:03.53,0:26:11.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They could deceive here, and those simple\Nfolks among Muslims would believe them, Dialogue: 0,0:26:11.43,0:26:17.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and even some ten or twenty would support\Nthem openly. But, what will they do there, Dialogue: 0,0:26:17.33,0:26:22.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where there hands and legs will betray\Nthem, where God will reveal everything, Dialogue: 0,0:26:22.25,0:26:31.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and their records will be disclosed,\Nwhat would they do there? Dialogue: 0,0:26:31.80,0:26:38.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Yahzarul munaafiquna antunaz zala alaihim\Nsuratun tunabbi 'uhum bimaa fiqulubihim' Dialogue: 0,0:26:38.44,0:26:45.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The hypocrites are afraid lest a Surah is\Nrevealed about them, Dialogue: 0,0:26:45.97,0:26:51.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that will unveil what is in their hearts.\NSo, what the Quran has done so far, Dialogue: 0,0:26:51.95,0:26:57.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that it's been making an indirect\Ncommentary, without specifying anyone, Dialogue: 0,0:26:57.53,0:27:03.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and has been explaining everything in such\Na way as by clarifying them by arguments. Dialogue: 0,0:27:03.40,0:27:08.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thus, by taking an account of conduct in\NZaahir (the apparent) to guide in Baatin. Dialogue: 0,0:27:08.16,0:27:17.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, it is said, what they fear, and give\Njustification of sorts to save themselves, Dialogue: 0,0:27:17.67,0:27:24.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for their issue as that they fear lest a\NSurah is revealed about them, Dialogue: 0,0:27:24.94,0:27:31.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that will unveil what is in their hearts.\NHere, too, certain stylistics are notable, Dialogue: 0,0:27:31.08,0:27:37.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,especially for the students of Arabic.\NTherefore, I have noted on this: Dialogue: 0,0:27:37.18,0:27:43.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The main phrase is: 'antunaz zala alaihim\Nsuratun tunabbi 'uhum bimaa fiqulubihim'. Dialogue: 0,0:27:43.57,0:27:51.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The conjuction of 'ala' points here, that\Nit is 'tunaz zala alaihim', not 'ilaihim'. Dialogue: 0,0:27:51.25,0:27:59.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that 'tunaz zala' here is used as 'tuqra\Nalihim'. A verb has been incorporated, Dialogue: 0,0:27:59.41,0:28:04.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is a stylistics of Arabic, as often\Nthe conjunction is of different verb, Dialogue: 0,0:28:04.72,0:28:10.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that preposition or verb is elsewhere, and\Nthe conjunction directs to that verb, Dialogue: 0,0:28:10.39,0:28:13.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the verb provides the meaning, and\Nby combining the both, Dialogue: 0,0:28:13.80,0:28:20.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,using one conjunction and one verb, two\Nconjunctions and verbs are suggested. Dialogue: 0,0:28:20.35,0:28:23.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, this stylistic feature has been used\Nat many occasions in the Quran, Dialogue: 0,0:28:23.79,0:28:29.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it was a common usage for the\Ncontemporary Arabic. Dialogue: 0,0:28:29.64,0:28:40.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is, they should be read out it—not\Nthat it is revealed but read to them too. Dialogue: 0,0:28:40.12,0:28:49.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Earlier it is said, the hypocrites in the\Nname of God try to win trust of Muslims. Dialogue: 0,0:28:49.91,0:28:58.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,From all sides, they try to prove that\Nthey are right, and their conduct as well. Dialogue: 0,0:28:58.27,0:29:03.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here, its context has been related, that\Ntheir aim is to save worldly interests— Dialogue: 0,0:29:03.88,0:29:12.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they have public trust—and they think, by\Nswearing on God they make people believe, Dialogue: 0,0:29:12.25,0:29:15.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there will be no Surah revealed, and\Nthey will remain untouched. Dialogue: 0,0:29:15.50,0:29:24.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this backstory has been related in\NSurah Tawbah as why this is happening. Dialogue: 0,0:29:24.01,0:29:30.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The tone and tenor is much different from\Nthe earlier Surahs. Dialogue: 0,0:29:30.56,0:29:36.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For this is a Surah of finalization, and\Nso everything has been discovered, Dialogue: 0,0:29:36.86,0:29:43.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the last warning is being given, thus\NGod's rhetoric is different too. Dialogue: 0,0:29:43.49,0:29:47.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hence, the hypocrites fear if all their\Nsecrets are exposed, Dialogue: 0,0:29:47.61,0:29:53.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that though much has already been revealed\Nwho knows what Surah would come afterward. Dialogue: 0,0:29:53.61,0:30:02.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, it is said, this is their fear, their\Napprehension as why they swear by God. Dialogue: 0,0:30:02.48,0:30:11.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Qulistahziu innallaaha mukhrijum maa tah\Nzarun.' Tell them, mock more for a while, Dialogue: 0,0:30:11.65,0:30:20.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and God will reveal what you fear, and\Nthis is certain, there is sometime though. Dialogue: 0,0:30:20.56,0:30:30.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, fool yourself till you can. God has\Ndecided, and everything will be disclosed. Dialogue: 0,0:30:30.35,0:30:33.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Our session is over, this subject is to\Nbe continued. Dialogue: 0,0:30:33.15,0:30:39.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'I say these words of mine, and\NI seek Allah's forgiveness.' Dialogue: 0,0:30:50.86,0:30:54.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the name of God, the Most Gracious,\Nthe Most Merciful. Dialogue: 0,0:30:54.71,0:31:02.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Hadith] 'An ibn-umar qala qala rasul-\Nallaahi salallaahu alaihi wasallam Dialogue: 0,0:31:02.94,0:31:07.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,baistu baina yadissa bi saif hat-ta yu\Nbadallahu wahduhu layushriku bihi shaiyyun Dialogue: 0,0:31:07.98,0:31:12.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,innallaha ja ala rizqi tahta zilli rumhi\Nwa ja ala zillata wa saghaar Dialogue: 0,0:31:12.97,0:31:21.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ala man khaalifa amri wa man tashabbaha\Nbi qaumin fahuwa minhum.' Dialogue: 0,0:31:21.22,0:31:28.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is narrated by Ibn Umar that,\Nthe Prophet (pbuh) said, Dialogue: 0,0:31:28.64,0:31:34.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have been sent with the sword before\NQayamah. This is the same issue as before, Dialogue: 0,0:31:34.11,0:31:45.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in other narrations, Surah Tawbah in\Nthe Quran too relates this subject. Dialogue: 0,0:31:45.100,0:31:54.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The earlier prophets who were made God's\NMessenger, they forewarned their people, Dialogue: 0,0:31:54.79,0:31:58.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and consequently the divine punishment\Ndid come to them. Dialogue: 0,0:31:58.65,0:32:03.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The detail of that divine punishment has\Nbeen narrated at various occasions, Dialogue: 0,0:32:03.68,0:32:07.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as what happened with the people of Nuh,\Nand with those of Aad and Samud, Dialogue: 0,0:32:07.17,0:32:11.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and with the people of Shuaib, and with\Nother people too. Dialogue: 0,0:32:11.93,0:32:17.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, in the case of the Last Prophet, the\Ndivine punishment didn't come from Heaven. Dialogue: 0,0:32:17.100,0:32:24.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, we have seen in this Surah before,\Nthe Companions were told to let them know, Dialogue: 0,0:32:24.37,0:32:29.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that there are two ends: 'ai yusibakumul\Nlaahu bi azaabim min indihi aw bi aydina'. Dialogue: 0,0:32:29.80,0:32:33.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That the punishment will come, either from\Nthe Heaven or by our hands. Dialogue: 0,0:32:33.09,0:32:38.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, in the case of the Last Prophet, men\Nwere made the instrument of God's justice. Dialogue: 0,0:32:38.95,0:32:47.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As in the narration discussed previously\Nwe noted, this fact was made distinct, Dialogue: 0,0:32:47.29,0:32:54.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this nation will be punished by those\Namong them who would be believers. Dialogue: 0,0:32:54.16,0:32:59.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is narrated in an eloquent manner here,\Nthat after the Prophet is Qayamah only, Dialogue: 0,0:32:59.64,0:33:05.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,no other prophet or messenger would come\Nin between. By the means of the prophets, Dialogue: 0,0:33:05.52,0:33:10.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whatever God's dealings of reward and\Npunishment used to happen is now done, Dialogue: 0,0:33:10.88,0:33:18.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and before Qayamah it is just the Last\NProphet who is sent with the sword, Dialogue: 0,0:33:18.94,0:33:25.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and, instead of divine punishment, His\Ndeniers would be dealt thus. Dialogue: 0,0:33:25.39,0:33:30.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then, is said: 'hat-ta yubadallahu\Nwahduhu layushriku bihi shaiyyun '. Dialogue: 0,0:33:30.51,0:33:34.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Apparently, a part of the statement, as\Naccording to the grammar of Arabic, Dialogue: 0,0:33:34.81,0:33:39.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,before 'hat-ta' is understood which is\Nguided by the previous one; Dialogue: 0,0:33:39.51,0:33:43.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and, when deconstructed, the suggestion\Nis, 'I would fight by his means.' Dialogue: 0,0:33:43.78,0:33:50.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is, the Last Prophet is sent with the\Nsword, so there will be war and conflict, Dialogue: 0,0:33:50.61,0:33:55.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,up to the point that the prayer of the\NOnly God is established in this land. Dialogue: 0,0:33:55.47,0:33:59.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, the Prophet has been appointed\Nthat, in the land of Arab, Dialogue: 0,0:33:59.74,0:34:06.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,none shall be worshiped besides God.\NThis has been explained by the Quran as, Dialogue: 0,0:34:06.25,0:34:13.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'yaqunat din qulluhu lillah'. That, no\Nplace for others in this land. Dialogue: 0,0:34:13.59,0:34:17.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, this has been made definite till\NQayamah by the Prophet: Dialogue: 0,0:34:17.43,0:34:21.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'la ijtamihu dinaan fi jaziraatil arab'.\NThat is, in the Arabic peninsula, Dialogue: 0,0:34:21.74,0:34:27.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there will be no other faith. And, the\NLast Prophet has come to ensure that, Dialogue: 0,0:34:27.71,0:34:35.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the Only God shall be worshipped in\Nthis land, and none be associated Him. Dialogue: 0,0:34:35.27,0:34:41.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Afterward, it is said: 'innallaha ja ala\Nrizqi tahta zilli rumhi'. Dialogue: 0,0:34:41.11,0:34:47.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That, the fact is God has provided my\Nsubsistence on the point of my spear. Dialogue: 0,0:34:47.24,0:34:55.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is, the Muslims will only focus on\Nthis end of the punishment, Dialogue: 0,0:34:55.93,0:35:01.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the Companions will travel to the\Ndecided place, Dialogue: 0,0:35:01.88,0:35:07.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and their spears would win them\Nsubsistence. Dialogue: 0,0:35:07.00,0:35:13.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hence, the booty, gained at the end of\Nconflicts, as we read in Surah Fatah, Dialogue: 0,0:35:13.90,0:35:20.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by using the term of 'spoils' it has been\Nexplained that God has provided thus, Dialogue: 0,0:35:20.65,0:35:25.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as He has given a great duty, and other\Nthings come later. Dialogue: 0,0:35:25.13,0:35:33.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, if one wants to do trade, commerce or\Nfarming, they could do so, Dialogue: 0,0:35:33.64,0:35:37.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but that is not the priority here. Now,\Nthe foremost thing is, Dialogue: 0,0:35:37.47,0:35:42.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as you are the companions of the Prophet,\Nand in this hour of reward and punishment, Dialogue: 0,0:35:42.13,0:35:48.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,God has decided to punish the deniers by\Nyour hands, that should be your concern. Dialogue: 0,0:35:48.34,0:35:54.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thus, their subsistence was provided in\Nthat itself. It is described eloquently: Dialogue: 0,0:35:54.28,0:36:01.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'ja ala rizqi tahta zilli rumhi'. And, God\Nhas ensured my sustenance by the sword. Dialogue: 0,0:36:01.25,0:36:05.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'wa ja ala zillata wa saghaar ala man\Nkhalifa amri'. Dialogue: 0,0:36:05.28,0:36:12.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, those who disobey me, for them is\Nshame and subjugation. Dialogue: 0,0:36:12.16,0:36:18.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is, those who oppose the Prophet, if\Nthey survived, they would subjugated, Dialogue: 0,0:36:18.30,0:36:27.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as it is said in Surah Tawbah: 'hat-ta\Nyutul jizyata ai yadin wa hum saaghirun'. Dialogue: 0,0:36:27.12,0:36:34.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, the whole argument has been made here,\Nthus it is said that, Dialogue: 0,0:36:34.59,0:36:43.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,since these are bound to happen, men and\Nspies will be sent, there will be wars, Dialogue: 0,0:36:43.28,0:36:47.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and do remember: 'man tashabbaha bi qaumin\Nfahuwa minhum.' Dialogue: 0,0:36:47.35,0:36:52.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That, who will live among people as one of\Nthem, will be counted as one of them. Dialogue: 0,0:36:52.83,0:36:56.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, whoever wants to be saved, must\Ntestify his belief. Dialogue: 0,0:36:56.29,0:37:04.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This should be kept in mind, in this final\Nhour, who will not declare his faith, Dialogue: 0,0:37:04.27,0:37:10.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their fate will be the same as that of\Nthe deniers and falsifiers. Dialogue: 0,0:37:10.70,0:37:15.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is from this topic here, that people\Nhave taken out of the context, Dialogue: 0,0:37:15.81,0:37:21.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and have applied it on the issue\Nof dressing and manners. Dialogue: 0,0:37:21.87,0:37:27.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What actually has been explained here is,\Nnow when spies will be sent— Dialogue: 0,0:37:27.27,0:37:32.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as is instructed in the Quran too. As when\Na man shows an Islamic manner, Dialogue: 0,0:37:32.81,0:37:37.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as in conveying Salaam, so his faith\Nbe acknowledged, Dialogue: 0,0:37:37.74,0:37:43.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,instead of replying him in 'lasta mumina'.\NSo, while Muslims were instructed, Dialogue: 0,0:37:43.16,0:37:47.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,others were asked that they express\Ntheir belief as such. Dialogue: 0,0:37:47.77,0:37:53.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For if they continued as the same as\Nthe polytheists and infidels, Dialogue: 0,0:37:53.76,0:38:04.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they could meet the same end. There are\Nnotes here on it that we should look into. Dialogue: 0,0:38:04.62,0:38:10.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In relation to this point, the Prophet is\Nsent with the sword ahead of Qayamah, Dialogue: 0,0:38:10.14,0:38:14.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'ahead of Qayamah' signifies here that He\Nis the Last Prophet. Dialogue: 0,0:38:14.78,0:38:21.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For before Qayamah, the Completion of the\NProof should be done unto the whole world. Dialogue: 0,0:38:21.74,0:38:31.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why did God send His Last Prophet? To do\Nthe Completion of Proof unto the world. Dialogue: 0,0:38:31.15,0:38:39.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What else shall be discussed in Qayamah,\Nfor the Completion of Proof is ultimate. Dialogue: 0,0:38:39.12,0:38:45.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,After that, it is said that He has been\Nsent with the sword, I have explained it. Dialogue: 0,0:38:45.69,0:38:52.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For, like others, the people of the Last\NProphet weren't sent divine punishment. Dialogue: 0,0:38:52.76,0:38:58.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rather, the Prophet and His Companions\Nwere ordered, that with their swords, Dialogue: 0,0:38:58.21,0:39:02.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they punish the deniers for\Nthe latter's' sin. Dialogue: 0,0:39:02.90,0:39:11.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This narration is from the Musannaf of\NIbn Abi Shaybah, reference no. 18833. Dialogue: 0,0:39:11.60,0:39:14.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Different books of Hadiths have been\Nreferred there as well, Dialogue: 0,0:39:14.44,0:39:18.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you could look up them, and find this\Nnarration there as well. Dialogue: 0,0:39:18.17,0:39:20.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, the suggestion that was made about\Nthe land of Arab, Dialogue: 0,0:39:20.86,0:39:27.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that in this land none shall be worshipped\Nexcept Allah, I have interpreted it as, Dialogue: 0,0:39:27.36,0:39:32.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that it specifically means Arabia, that\NGod has made the center of Tawhid, Dialogue: 0,0:39:32.66,0:39:39.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and is for the promotion of His Daawah.\NIt is not for the whole world. Dialogue: 0,0:39:39.69,0:39:46.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's only for the land of Arab, as said in\Nthe Quran: 'yaqunat din qulluhu lillah'. Dialogue: 0,0:39:46.19,0:39:51.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, for that God's law is:\N'la ijtamihu fihi dinaan'. Dialogue: 0,0:39:51.12,0:39:56.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is the law of God, and\Nthe Prophet. has made it clear. Dialogue: 0,0:39:56.26,0:40:00.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have already mentioned that, what is\Nsaid by subsistence has been ensured so, Dialogue: 0,0:40:00.67,0:40:05.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is in the booty and spoils that would\Nbe gained from those battles, Dialogue: 0,0:40:05.64,0:40:10.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which would be fought after the Completion\Nof the Proof to exterminate the deniers. Dialogue: 0,0:40:10.29,0:40:14.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These wars will happen, and in them God\Nwill ensure their sustenance, Dialogue: 0,0:40:14.64,0:40:22.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so nothing to worry, this a mission of\NGod, and He has made provisions for that. Dialogue: 0,0:40:22.40,0:40:29.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, the last point, that one who wont\Nseparate him from deniers at this hour. Dialogue: 0,0:40:29.32,0:40:36.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As said, who will live among people as one\Nof them, will be counted as one of them. Dialogue: 0,0:40:36.20,0:40:41.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, if one who wont separate himself from \Ndeniers at this hour of the punishment, Dialogue: 0,0:40:41.54,0:40:48.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he will meet the same end as ordered for\Nthem in Surah Tawbah of the Quran. Dialogue: 0,0:40:48.28,0:40:56.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is noted because the punishment that\Nfollows the denial of the prophets, Dialogue: 0,0:40:56.91,0:41:04.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in that all the judgments are made in\NZaahir. And, it is asked of the believers, Dialogue: 0,0:41:04.46,0:41:10.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they pronounce their faith and get away\Nfrom others. Dialogue: 0,0:41:10.11,0:41:14.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, this topic belongs to this context,\Nand has to be understood in such. Dialogue: 0,0:41:14.98,0:41:17.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'I say these words of mine, and I seek\NAllah's forgiveness.' Dialogue: 0,0:41:17.83,0:41:21.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, a break for ten minutes, then\Nthe question-answer session. Dialogue: 0,0:41:30.51,0:41:32.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Hassan Ilyas] In the name of Allah,\Nthe most Gracious, the most Merciful Dialogue: 0,0:41:32.18,0:41:33.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Assalamu Alaikum. Dialogue: 0,0:41:33.08,0:41:35.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are coming to you with this weekly\Nquestion and answer session Dialogue: 0,0:41:35.05,0:41:37.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with Ghamidi Saab, directly from\NGhamidi Center, Dallas Dialogue: 0,0:41:37.48,0:41:40.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let us begin. Ghamidi Sahab, thank you\Nfor your time. Dialogue: 0,0:41:40.02,0:41:43.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the previous session\Nwe had begun this discussion. Dialogue: 0,0:41:43.05,0:41:46.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Today we will continue with it further,\NA big change in Saudi Arabia, Dialogue: 0,0:41:46.54,0:41:49.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At the political stage of the world as\Nwell as Dialogue: 0,0:41:49.58,0:41:53.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the backdrop of religious movements,\Nwhatever identity that was there before, Dialogue: 0,0:41:53.56,0:41:56.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we can clearly see a cultural shift,\Na paradigm shift, Dialogue: 0,0:41:56.53,0:42:00.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the State of Saudi Arabia has decided\Nthat whatever had been its views, Dialogue: 0,0:42:00.49,0:42:02.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those will not continue to remain\Nlike that. Dialogue: 0,0:42:02.57,0:42:06.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You had begun to express\Nyour opinion on that topic. Dialogue: 0,0:42:06.48,0:42:09.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Today we shall carry it on further,\Ndo tell us that Dialogue: 0,0:42:09.18,0:42:13.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Saudi Arabia had for a long enough time\Nnot only tried to propagate Dialogue: 0,0:42:13.51,0:42:18.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a religious thought, not\Njust at the State level Dialogue: 0,0:42:18.04,0:42:21.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rather, throughout the world\Nrather implemented them practically Dialogue: 0,0:42:21.05,0:42:21.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in their own country as well. Dialogue: 0,0:42:21.98,0:42:23.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My first question today\Nto you is Dialogue: 0,0:42:23.51,0:42:25.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whatever is our traditional\Ninterpretation of Deen, Dialogue: 0,0:42:25.55,0:42:28.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the corpus of 'Fiqh', what are the\Nrights of the State in those, Dialogue: 0,0:42:28.98,0:42:32.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a practical picture and model\Nof it emerged in the case of Saudi Arabia, Dialogue: 0,0:42:32.58,0:42:34.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it remained in effect for\Nalmost a century, Dialogue: 0,0:42:34.56,0:42:38.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what in your view is the reason\Nthat they had implemented the Shariah, Dialogue: 0,0:42:38.08,0:42:41.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,however, the collective conscience\Nof the public Dialogue: 0,0:42:41.07,0:42:46.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,could not accept it mentally\Nbut the moment this change has occurred, Dialogue: 0,0:42:46.55,0:42:49.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,almost all of them now\Nconsider it a religious duty Dialogue: 0,0:42:49.50,0:42:51.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to infringe upon those laws. Dialogue: 0,0:42:51.99,0:42:56.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Javed Ahmed Ghamidi] To expect a change\Nin the thoughts and nature of the people Dialogue: 0,0:42:56.50,0:42:59.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,using the Government\Nas a vehicle of change, Dialogue: 0,0:42:59.54,0:43:03.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,according to me is like\Nliving in a fool's paradise. Dialogue: 0,0:43:03.08,0:43:07.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This has never happened.\NThe Governments, the collective Dialogue: 0,0:43:07.57,0:43:11.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,organization,\Nthe society, and the cultural traditions Dialogue: 0,0:43:11.58,0:43:14.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,may create an environment,\Nand that environment is at times Dialogue: 0,0:43:14.55,0:43:18.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,conducive to certain things,\Nhowever, religion conquers the hearts Dialogue: 0,0:43:18.53,0:43:23.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and minds of people.\Nand that is, what it should be. Dialogue: 0,0:43:23.52,0:43:29.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i.e. when I make the decision that\NI have to accept Islam ... Dialogue: 0,0:43:29.58,0:43:33.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have clarified several times\Nthat Islam does not mean Dialogue: 0,0:43:33.53,0:43:40.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to accept a particular point of view,\Nrather the word itself implies Dialogue: 0,0:43:40.55,0:43:43.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that in essence,\Nthis is to surrender oneself Dialogue: 0,0:43:43.52,0:43:47.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the will of Allah (swt). Dialogue: 0,0:43:47.10,0:43:50.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The point that is generally\Nstated by the people, Dialogue: 0,0:43:50.06,0:43:56.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that Islam implies peace, is not correct.\Ni.e. Islam means to surrender onself. Dialogue: 0,0:43:56.51,0:44:00.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To make oneself\Nobedient to the will of Allah. Dialogue: 0,0:44:00.49,0:44:04.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This terminology has been stated\Nwith reference to Syedna Ibrahim Dialogue: 0,0:44:04.04,0:44:06.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Aslamtu Li Rabbil Aalimeen".\Ni.e. the acceptance of my Lord, Dialogue: 0,0:44:06.94,0:44:11.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to regard him as my Master,\NOwner and the King of this Universe, Dialogue: 0,0:44:11.57,0:44:21.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to bow to His Will, to spend\Nlife seeking His Pleasure, Dialogue: 0,0:44:21.52,0:44:25.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this cannot be achieved\Nwith some physical law, Dialogue: 0,0:44:25.53,0:44:31.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for this the process is the same which\Nhave always been adopted by the Prophets, Dialogue: 0,0:44:31.54,0:44:37.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i.e. we give Dawah to people, we preach,\Nwe conquer their hearts and minds, Dialogue: 0,0:44:37.51,0:44:40.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we reply to them with answers\Nto their questions, Dialogue: 0,0:44:40.56,0:44:44.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and remove their suspicions,\Nand in spite of doing all these, Dialogue: 0,0:44:44.52,0:44:47.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the maximum that\Nwe can expect from it is Dialogue: 0,0:44:47.56,0:44:53.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those people who get this point,\Nthose who accept this teaching, Dialogue: 0,0:44:53.52,0:44:56.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they would lead their\Nlife in accordance to it. Dialogue: 0,0:44:56.09,0:44:59.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So what do you think, the tens\Nof millions of the population, Dialogue: 0,0:44:59.53,0:45:01.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is present in the\NArabian peninsula, Dialogue: 0,0:45:01.06,0:45:04.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and even in our country,\Nso is it just the Government Dialogue: 0,0:45:04.52,0:45:08.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,under whose command\Nthe people follow Deen? Dialogue: 0,0:45:08.10,0:45:12.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are countless people, who\Noffer Salah and observe Sawm, Dialogue: 0,0:45:12.48,0:45:17.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,perform Hajj, try to maintain\Nthemselves on moral principles, Dialogue: 0,0:45:17.53,0:45:22.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they follow the commands of Allah\Neven in the most adverse of conditions. Dialogue: 0,0:45:22.02,0:45:26.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In their solitude and in public they\Nkeep an eye on the Commands of Allah. Dialogue: 0,0:45:26.57,0:45:30.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do these people carry out all this\Ndue to some Government's orders? Dialogue: 0,0:45:30.03,0:45:32.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are doing it for Allah. Dialogue: 0,0:45:32.12,0:45:35.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, in essence, this is\Nthe objective of Deen. Dialogue: 0,0:45:35.09,0:45:38.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hence, this should not give\Nrise to some big worry, Dialogue: 0,0:45:38.60,0:45:42.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whatever was lying hidden\Ninside, actually has surfaced. Dialogue: 0,0:45:42.59,0:45:45.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You are aware that even before\Nwhen people used to go there Dialogue: 0,0:45:45.54,0:45:48.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and stay for years together,\Nthey were familiar with Dialogue: 0,0:45:48.11,0:45:50.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the internal affairs,\Nthey were aware of the Dialogue: 0,0:45:50.22,0:45:54.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,situation inside people's homes,\Nin the same way, how do people Dialogue: 0,0:45:54.53,0:45:55.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,behave in their private life. Dialogue: 0,0:45:55.91,0:46:00.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They used to say that this is in fact\Nan external imposition of a system, Dialogue: 0,0:46:00.53,0:46:02.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there is nothing more to it. Dialogue: 0,0:46:02.17,0:46:04.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hence, Islam, in essence,\Ndepends on it. Dialogue: 0,0:46:04.96,0:46:09.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is a Dawah, a Message, it\Ndoes not need vehicles such as these. Dialogue: 0,0:46:09.51,0:46:13.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It will reach its Dawah and its\NMessage on its own terms, Dialogue: 0,0:46:13.93,0:46:16.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and will reach into the\Ndepths of the heart. Dialogue: 0,0:46:16.06,0:46:18.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Wa Lillahil Hujjatul Baaligha", Dialogue: 0,0:46:18.54,0:46:23.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'This is a Hujjat-e Baaligha from Allah',\Nand what are its target? Dialogue: 0,0:46:23.55,0:46:25.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Those are the heart and the mind. Dialogue: 0,0:46:25.52,0:46:29.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When those would be conquered,\Nthen we will get the real picture. Dialogue: 0,0:46:29.56,0:46:32.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this point has also\Nbeen elaborated by the Quran that Dialogue: 0,0:46:32.48,0:46:35.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even when the Prophets\Nhad come down to the world, Dialogue: 0,0:46:35.56,0:46:37.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they could never turn\Nwhole countries Dialogue: 0,0:46:37.55,0:46:43.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the whole majority\Ninto submission on this Deen. Dialogue: 0,0:46:43.23,0:46:44.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Only a few in number were. Dialogue: 0,0:46:44.58,0:46:48.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It has been stated at multiple places\Nthat a small count of them are Dialogue: 0,0:46:48.57,0:46:50.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those who accept these things. Dialogue: 0,0:46:50.49,0:46:54.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why, since we\Naccept this as a Deen, Dialogue: 0,0:46:54.58,0:46:56.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there are some\Nconsequences of it as well. Dialogue: 0,0:46:56.62,0:47:01.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have to pay a price for it.\NAnd when we accept it practically, Dialogue: 0,0:47:01.01,0:47:03.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and fulfill the practical\Nrequirements of it, Dialogue: 0,0:47:03.20,0:47:05.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for that as well, we pay a price. Dialogue: 0,0:47:05.03,0:47:07.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hence this is a world\Nof conflicting thoughts Dialogue: 0,0:47:07.13,0:47:09.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in which the human being\Nhas been sent. Dialogue: 0,0:47:09.09,0:47:11.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why should these\Nexpectations be attached to it? Dialogue: 0,0:47:11.55,0:47:14.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,According to me\Nthis isn't required at all. Dialogue: 0,0:47:14.52,0:47:17.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The methodology that has\Nbeen taught to us by Allah Dialogue: 0,0:47:17.57,0:47:20.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Allah's Prophet is that\Nthese things which the people Dialogue: 0,0:47:20.50,0:47:23.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are claiming have appeared,\Nregarding these things, Dialogue: 0,0:47:23.55,0:47:26.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,since these are individual matters,\Nwhat education is being Dialogue: 0,0:47:26.56,0:47:28.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,received by a person,\Nor how is he driving a car Dialogue: 0,0:47:28.51,0:47:31.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or what attire has he worn,\Nwhether he listens to music or not, Dialogue: 0,0:47:31.53,0:47:34.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all such things, for them\Nthe method of preaching, Dialogue: 0,0:47:34.60,0:47:40.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,advising, teaching, transforming of their\Nhearts and minds should be adopted. Dialogue: 0,0:47:40.05,0:47:43.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For them that Message of Deen,\Ni.e. Deen actually is the Dialogue: 0,0:47:43.57,0:47:49.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,purification of the heart,\Nof body, of morals, Dialogue: 0,0:47:49.49,0:47:52.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the intellect, and one's practices. Dialogue: 0,0:47:52.50,0:47:57.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Therefore the Dawah for purification\Nshould be continuously propagated, Dialogue: 0,0:47:57.55,0:48:00.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hence the arrangement\Nthat was done in Islam, Dialogue: 0,0:48:00.07,0:48:04.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i.e. the Governments\Nwould arrange every week, Dialogue: 0,0:48:04.93,0:48:06.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i.e. once in a week on the pulpit\Nfor Friday con Dialogue: 0,0:48:06.62,0:48:08.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,should advise and teach people. Dialogue: 0,0:48:08.55,0:48:12.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You see where the mention of Juma occurs\Nin the Quran, there it is written Dialogue: 0,0:48:12.08,0:48:13.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Fas'au Ila Zikrillah", Dialogue: 0,0:48:13.52,0:48:15.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People must move towards\Nthe Remembrance of Allah, Dialogue: 0,0:48:15.93,0:48:18.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so Allah should be remembered. Dialogue: 0,0:48:18.35,0:48:20.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Reminders are to be given\Nfor His Remembrance. Dialogue: 0,0:48:20.57,0:48:23.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the right method.\NThe might of the Government Dialogue: 0,0:48:23.54,0:48:26.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,should be made use of such things\Nand this is the right Dialogue: 0,0:48:26.60,0:48:29.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the Government too,\Nthose things which either relate Dialogue: 0,0:48:29.51,0:48:34.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the infringement of someone's Rights,\Nfor providing justice to him, if Dialogue: 0,0:48:34.60,0:48:37.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we use the power of the Law,\Nor to safeguard people from Dialogue: 0,0:48:37.56,0:48:40.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,someone's tyranny or oppression,\Nso that no injury is committed Dialogue: 0,0:48:40.53,0:48:42.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,against life, property, or honor. Dialogue: 0,0:48:42.52,0:48:47.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And people do not wreak havoc on the life\Nof the people by misusing their power. Dialogue: 0,0:48:47.55,0:48:50.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is used for this purpose\Nand with regard to those things, Dialogue: 0,0:48:50.99,0:48:54.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there aren't any changes made,\Nit still is the same. Dialogue: 0,0:48:54.06,0:48:56.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Hassan] Right. Okay, Ghamidi Sahab,\Ndo tell us, Dialogue: 0,0:48:56.55,0:49:00.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the religious Ulema among us,\Ndo they idealize that Dialogue: 0,0:49:00.04,0:49:04.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if our religious thoughts\Nhave the access to the State level, Dialogue: 0,0:49:04.09,0:49:08.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then the same religious interpretation\Nwould be established at every place, Dialogue: 0,0:49:08.06,0:49:12.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the way the Ulema wish that\Npeople accept the religious thoughts, Dialogue: 0,0:49:12.52,0:49:14.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the same would be achieved. Dialogue: 0,0:49:14.14,0:49:17.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Through the example of Saudi Arabia,\Nif we wish to understand from you, Dialogue: 0,0:49:17.55,0:49:20.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that a specific point of view\Nwas patronized at the level of the State, Dialogue: 0,0:49:20.89,0:49:23.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we saw that point\Nof view being propagated worldwide, Dialogue: 0,0:49:23.56,0:49:27.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,however, if the mind\Nof a person changes, Dialogue: 0,0:49:27.51,0:49:29.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then everything starts reversing. Dialogue: 0,0:49:29.50,0:49:32.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hence with regard to strategy,\Nour religious Ulema idealize Dialogue: 0,0:49:32.48,0:49:35.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or rather glamorize that\Nif a servant of Allah owns Dialogue: 0,0:49:35.54,0:49:39.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that complete religious thought\Nthen everything will transform. Dialogue: 0,0:49:39.02,0:49:42.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How useful will this point\Nbe in the practical field? Dialogue: 0,0:49:42.11,0:49:44.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Ghamidi] You see, from the\Npractical point of view, Dialogue: 0,0:49:44.09,0:49:47.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it had been very effective.\NAnd it always is very effective. Dialogue: 0,0:49:47.15,0:49:50.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We know that whenever a\Nthought is politically dominant, Dialogue: 0,0:49:50.59,0:49:53.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then it has far-reaching\Nconsequences. Dialogue: 0,0:49:53.04,0:49:58.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Western thought, which\Nhas some great virtues too, Dialogue: 0,0:49:58.04,0:50:03.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,however, its flaws remain concealed due\Nto its dominance at the gobal level. Dialogue: 0,0:50:03.03,0:50:05.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hence, if this happens\Nat the State level, Dialogue: 0,0:50:05.54,0:50:10.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,national or at the international level,\Nhas its own effects. Dialogue: 0,0:50:10.04,0:50:15.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are very few people\Nwho on the basis of intellect, knowledge, Dialogue: 0,0:50:15.49,0:50:18.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or reasoning accept things. Dialogue: 0,0:50:18.53,0:50:21.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For most people these (other) things\Nare influential. Dialogue: 0,0:50:21.52,0:50:24.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You are aware that this has\Nhappened in our history as well. Dialogue: 0,0:50:24.60,0:50:27.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i.e. when our dominance\Nwas established on a large scale Dialogue: 0,0:50:27.51,0:50:31.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then how its effects\Nwere seen in Iraq and Syria? Dialogue: 0,0:50:31.08,0:50:34.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All these regions\Nwere not of the Muslims. Dialogue: 0,0:50:34.13,0:50:36.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The people here were\Nnot the followers of Islam. Dialogue: 0,0:50:36.60,0:50:40.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Their language and culture changed\Nand so did many other things. Dialogue: 0,0:50:40.04,0:50:42.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These effects happened in India as well. Dialogue: 0,0:50:42.04,0:50:44.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It happened in other\Nparts of the world too. Dialogue: 0,0:50:44.55,0:50:47.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i.e. there cannot be two opinions\Nwith regard to these effects. Dialogue: 0,0:50:47.57,0:50:50.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The real question is\Nwhether Islam wishes to make Dialogue: 0,0:50:50.59,0:50:55.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,use these effects in this manner?\NNo, it has set its limits. Dialogue: 0,0:50:55.55,0:50:58.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And those limits are,\Nseveral things which are Dialogue: 0,0:50:58.58,0:51:01.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,related to individual matters,\Nthere the attitude would Dialogue: 0,0:51:01.53,0:51:04.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be of preaching and advising. Dialogue: 0,0:51:04.04,0:51:07.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is absolutely no right\Ngiven either in the Quran Dialogue: 0,0:51:07.04,0:51:09.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or in any Hadees\Nfor any Government. Dialogue: 0,0:51:09.55,0:51:12.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a fulfillment of human liberty. Dialogue: 0,0:51:12.58,0:51:15.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it is such a thing which\Nif not kept in consideration Dialogue: 0,0:51:15.100,0:51:19.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then it directly interferes\Nwith Allah's Scheme of things. Dialogue: 0,0:51:19.53,0:51:23.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And those things which\Nrelate to the rights of people, Dialogue: 0,0:51:23.08,0:51:26.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or which relate to the safeguarding of\Npeople's lives, property, and honor, Dialogue: 0,0:51:26.58,0:51:29.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this power may be used for such matters. Dialogue: 0,0:51:29.58,0:51:33.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it is the balance in this,\Nthat takes us to the right destination. Dialogue: 0,0:51:33.56,0:51:37.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When we become imbalanced\Nwith respect to a particular point, Dialogue: 0,0:51:37.57,0:51:41.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then apparently we might see it\Nmaking an exceptional impact, Dialogue: 0,0:51:41.52,0:51:45.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,however, that won't be real, and that\Nobjective won't be achieved as well. Dialogue: 0,0:51:45.11,0:51:48.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hence, the way a person\Nstarts sermonising that Dialogue: 0,0:51:48.53,0:51:53.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people would manage to protect themselves,\Nthey would guard their rights Dialogue: 0,0:51:53.61,0:51:57.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through preachings and advice,\Nand the attitude regarding Dialogue: 0,0:51:57.57,0:52:00.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the offenders is right that\Nthey should be referred to Dialogue: 0,0:52:00.56,0:52:02.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Psychiatric Clinics for their reformation. Dialogue: 0,0:52:02.60,0:52:05.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then this would be an attitude that lacks\Nbalance. Dialogue: 0,0:52:05.53,0:52:08.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This would be against\Nhuman psychology. Dialogue: 0,0:52:08.14,0:52:11.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No State or System can work\Nsuccessfully in this manner. Dialogue: 0,0:52:11.53,0:52:15.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If we establish such a\NGovernment or society, Dialogue: 0,0:52:15.48,0:52:18.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is neither even\Nsensitive on these matters, Dialogue: 0,0:52:18.50,0:52:20.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which I stated just now,\Ni.e. redressal against Dialogue: 0,0:52:20.71,0:52:22.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,infringement of Rights\Nand against offenses on Dialogue: 0,0:52:22.51,0:52:24.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lives, property, and honor. Dialogue: 0,0:52:24.47,0:52:26.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then we would find the\Ndevelopment of anarchy. Dialogue: 0,0:52:26.64,0:52:28.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,An environment of\Nlawlessness would develop, Dialogue: 0,0:52:28.80,0:52:31.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the country would go to the dogs,\Nnone would be ready to lend Dialogue: 0,0:52:31.96,0:52:33.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their ears to anyone. Dialogue: 0,0:52:33.10,0:52:36.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hence this would be a lopsided\Nattitude or an extreme. Dialogue: 0,0:52:36.57,0:52:39.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The second extreme is when\Na Government surfaces Dialogue: 0,0:52:39.52,0:52:45.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and considers its views, ideology,\Nand religious interpretations as correct, Dialogue: 0,0:52:45.52,0:52:48.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and starts to impose them\Nby force on all people. Dialogue: 0,0:52:48.05,0:52:49.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What would this result in? Dialogue: 0,0:52:49.47,0:52:51.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This would result in that\Nfor the time being we Dialogue: 0,0:52:51.67,0:52:54.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would make them follow it,\Nhowever, underneath it, there would Dialogue: 0,0:52:54.59,0:52:55.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be simmering lava. Dialogue: 0,0:52:55.52,0:52:57.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this will result in\Nconstraints being made Dialogue: 0,0:52:57.66,0:53:00.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on people's liberty, and freedom. Dialogue: 0,0:53:00.07,0:53:03.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The natural virtues that\Notherwise would have Dialogue: 0,0:53:03.54,0:53:05.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,developed in a person\Nand in an environment in which people Dialogue: 0,0:53:05.99,0:53:09.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,should listen to different thoughts\Nand the natural development of the Dialogue: 0,0:53:09.50,0:53:11.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,intellect will also come to a stop. Dialogue: 0,0:53:11.52,0:53:15.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have a similar experience in another\Nideology which was not based on religion, Dialogue: 0,0:53:15.82,0:53:19.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was done in China and the erstwhile \NUSSR, and is even now being done Dialogue: 0,0:53:19.48,0:53:20.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in various places. Dialogue: 0,0:53:20.62,0:53:22.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So both these experiences\Nform the two extremes. Dialogue: 0,0:53:22.99,0:53:25.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We should seek\Nrefuge in Allah from both. Dialogue: 0,0:53:25.03,0:53:27.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The point that has been taught\Nby Islam is that Dialogue: 0,0:53:27.59,0:53:31.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for those things,\Nwe would adopt the path of Dialogue: 0,0:53:31.08,0:53:36.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mere preaching and advice\Nfor matters relating to individual life. Dialogue: 0,0:53:36.51,0:53:39.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And those matters where\Nothers' rights are infringed upon, Dialogue: 0,0:53:39.56,0:53:43.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or others are subjected\Nto oppression, tyranny or excesses, Dialogue: 0,0:53:43.60,0:53:46.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there the power of the\Nthe law would be made use of. Dialogue: 0,0:53:46.59,0:53:50.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,While discussing a topic\NI have said this earlier as well, Dialogue: 0,0:53:50.51,0:53:54.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that this balance can only be taught\Nby none other than the Book of Allah. Dialogue: 0,0:53:54.60,0:53:56.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And those people who spend\Ntheir lives based upon Dialogue: 0,0:53:56.55,0:53:58.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Bighairi Hudam\NWala Kitabim Muneer" Dialogue: 0,0:53:58.54,0:54:00.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And accordingly,\Nmake decisions, Dialogue: 0,0:54:00.06,0:54:02.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there both these extremes\Ndo come into existence. Dialogue: 0,0:54:02.57,0:54:04.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i.e. either that extreme\Nor this extreme, Dialogue: 0,0:54:04.54,0:54:06.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this philosophy has also been\Ntold to us that Dialogue: 0,0:54:06.64,0:54:09.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a classless society would\Ncome into existence, Dialogue: 0,0:54:09.03,0:54:12.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people would against their nature\Njust shed away those practices. Dialogue: 0,0:54:12.54,0:54:16.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And such a time is not a far cry,\Njust some environment Dialogue: 0,0:54:16.54,0:54:19.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and some economic relationships\Nneed to change over time, Dialogue: 0,0:54:19.58,0:54:23.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,however, history is chiding itself that\Nnothing of this kind can take place. Dialogue: 0,0:54:23.51,0:54:26.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,However, momentarily,\Nthis picture was shown, Dialogue: 0,0:54:26.56,0:54:30.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If we read the book 'Maho Saale Aashnaai'\Nby Faiz Ahmed Faiz, Dialogue: 0,0:54:30.50,0:54:34.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and see the picture of the\Nparadise that he portrays to us, Dialogue: 0,0:54:34.63,0:54:38.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there it seems that the dream\Nof human beings has come true. Dialogue: 0,0:54:38.06,0:54:42.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,However, when those iron curtains were\Npulled down, the reality became evident. Dialogue: 0,0:54:42.54,0:54:45.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hence this implies that\Nit is the book of Allah Dialogue: 0,0:54:45.53,0:54:47.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which in accordance\Nwith the Scheme of Allah, Dialogue: 0,0:54:47.74,0:54:50.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and as per the 'Fitrah' (Human Nature)\Nof a human being, Dialogue: 0,0:54:50.38,0:54:51.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that Fitrah which has\Nbeen created by Allah, Dialogue: 0,0:54:51.98,0:54:55.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which He has pronounced,\N"Firat Allahillati fataran Naasa Ilaiha", Dialogue: 0,0:54:55.58,0:54:59.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is just the Book of Allah,\Nwhich can create that balance, Dialogue: 0,0:54:59.62,0:55:04.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and this is not just a human thing, he\Nactually sways between the two extremes. Dialogue: 0,0:55:04.07,0:55:08.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So in the way, a philosophy came\Ninto existence in the last century, Dialogue: 0,0:55:08.50,0:55:11.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and based upon that philosophy\Ntwo mighty empires had established, Dialogue: 0,0:55:11.64,0:55:15.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rather a superpower was established,\Nsuch might was achieved, Dialogue: 0,0:55:15.50,0:55:20.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so the foundations of that\Nphilosophy were laid on imbalance, Dialogue: 0,0:55:20.03,0:55:23.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,measures against the human Fitrah\Nhad been adopted in it. Dialogue: 0,0:55:23.52,0:55:25.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ultimately that philosophy\Nhad to accept defeat. Dialogue: 0,0:55:25.94,0:55:29.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And its spell vanished within a short\Nspan of 60 to 70 years, Dialogue: 0,0:55:29.04,0:55:34.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,exactly the same situation will happen\Nin the states that are based on religion. Dialogue: 0,0:55:34.59,0:55:37.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When new people would take birth,\Nthe newer generations would appear, Dialogue: 0,0:55:37.63,0:55:41.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when they will acquire education\Nand would come out of Dialogue: 0,0:55:41.23,0:55:45.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their specific backdrops, they would be \Nequipped with ideas of liberty, freedom, Dialogue: 0,0:55:45.03,0:55:46.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they would form\Nopinion about things, Dialogue: 0,0:55:46.100,0:55:50.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then such rebellions would surface,\Nlike what we are seeing now. Dialogue: 0,0:55:50.58,0:55:52.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Therefore, why can't we\Nadopt the path Dialogue: 0,0:55:52.54,0:55:54.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which Allah and His Prophet\Nhas guided us for, Dialogue: 0,0:55:54.50,0:55:59.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there we can maintain a balance\Nin society for centuries. Dialogue: 0,0:55:59.52,0:56:02.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Deviations would be found, all\Nthese things would be there, Dialogue: 0,0:56:02.38,0:56:05.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,however, the methodology that\Nhas been established by Allah (swt) Dialogue: 0,0:56:05.52,0:56:09.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and His Prophet as his Sunnah,\Nif we keep that in focus, then we Dialogue: 0,0:56:09.53,0:56:12.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would not meet such tragedies. Dialogue: 0,0:56:12.63,0:56:14.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Hassan] Right, Ghamidi Sahab,\Nwe take this topic ahead, Dialogue: 0,0:56:14.17,0:56:16.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,please tell us that\Nwhen the Saudi Sovereign stated Dialogue: 0,0:56:16.56,0:56:20.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,his religious vision\Nabout the Sultanate, Dialogue: 0,0:56:20.58,0:56:24.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the two basic points were that\Nthe legislations based upon the Dialogue: 0,0:56:24.58,0:56:27.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Quran is possible\Nwhile there won't be any legislation Dialogue: 0,0:56:27.54,0:56:30.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,based on 'khabar-e Vaahid',\Nother than in the case that, Dialogue: 0,0:56:30.50,0:56:32.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it reaches the level of 'Mutawatir'. Dialogue: 0,0:56:32.53,0:56:35.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When this point came forward,\Ngenerally, people were Dialogue: 0,0:56:35.57,0:56:38.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the opinion, perhaps this is more\Nor less the same point Dialogue: 0,0:56:38.39,0:56:40.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is often and on\Nstated by Ghamidi Sahab. Dialogue: 0,0:56:40.12,0:56:41.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the authenticity\Nof Khabar-e Vaahid. Dialogue: 0,0:56:41.98,0:56:46.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wish to ask you that the religious\Nvision that has been presented, Dialogue: 0,0:56:46.50,0:56:50.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,does it hold any similarity or\Nresemblance to your point of view? Dialogue: 0,0:56:50.06,0:56:52.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or do you hold a\Ndifferent point of view? Dialogue: 0,0:56:52.04,0:56:54.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Ghamidi] I do not have\Nany interest in such things. Dialogue: 0,0:56:54.12,0:56:55.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These are people's decisions. Dialogue: 0,0:56:55.59,0:56:59.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I would like to clarify once\Nagain that this is not my point of view. Dialogue: 0,0:56:59.52,0:57:00.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Hassan] Okay. Dialogue: 0,0:57:00.52,0:57:03.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Ghamidi] What I have always said is that,\Nour Deen has been received Dialogue: 0,0:57:03.98,0:57:05.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by us in two forms. Dialogue: 0,0:57:05.10,0:57:07.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One is the Quran,\Nwhich is the Book of Allah, Dialogue: 0,0:57:07.56,0:57:10.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the second is that\NSunnah which had been established Dialogue: 0,0:57:10.58,0:57:14.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as the Sunnah of the Prophets,\Nwhich have been continued Dialogue: 0,0:57:14.48,0:57:17.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,further, after their affirmation\Nand confirmation by the Prophet, Dialogue: 0,0:57:17.54,0:57:19.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there were some additions\Nand amendments and Dialogue: 0,0:57:19.95,0:57:21.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some changes were made as well. Dialogue: 0,0:57:21.52,0:57:25.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Both these things are our Deen, and how\Nhave both these been transmitted? Dialogue: 0,0:57:25.51,0:57:28.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Both have been transmitted\Nthrough 'Ijma And Tawatur'. Dialogue: 0,0:57:28.07,0:57:33.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Quran as well as the Sunnah\Nhas been transmitted in this manner. Dialogue: 0,0:57:33.01,0:57:36.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For this, neither were we\Ndependent on any research, Dialogue: 0,0:57:36.11,0:57:40.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nor dependent on some group of\NAimma-e Rijaal (science of men/narrators) Dialogue: 0,0:57:40.56,0:57:43.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Neither did we depend\Non Bukhari or Muslim. Dialogue: 0,0:57:43.02,0:57:45.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These are in fact being transmitted\Nover generations Dialogue: 0,0:57:45.99,0:57:48.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through the 'Ijma' (Consensus)\Nand 'Tawatur' (Practice) of the Muslims. Dialogue: 0,0:57:48.54,0:57:53.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And for this we have the\NConclusive Proof of God's Truth. Dialogue: 0,0:57:53.02,0:57:56.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is Allah's Deen?\NIt is the Quran and Sunnah. Dialogue: 0,0:57:56.03,0:57:58.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Both these things\Nare totally ascertained, Dialogue: 0,0:57:58.94,0:58:00.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The complete Deen\Nis contained in them. Dialogue: 0,0:58:00.84,0:58:03.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We take them as the basis to\Nunderstand the complete Deen. Dialogue: 0,0:58:03.97,0:58:05.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we propagate them. Dialogue: 0,0:58:05.42,0:58:10.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As far as Ahadees are concerned\Nit is the history of the Prophet (pbuh). Dialogue: 0,0:58:10.01,0:58:13.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Sahaba (Companions) of\Nthe Prophet have seen and heard him, Dialogue: 0,0:58:13.50,0:58:15.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and have reported them\Nfurther down the line. Dialogue: 0,0:58:15.54,0:58:19.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Whatever comes to us on such occasions\Nis in fact the division of the Hadees. Dialogue: 0,0:58:19.51,0:58:24.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i.e. with regard to Hadees the\Ndiscussions have started that Dialogue: 0,0:58:24.07,0:58:27.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which among them are 'Ahad',\Ni.e. only one person is singly Dialogue: 0,0:58:27.50,0:58:30.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,narrating something,\Nwhich are the ones which Dialogue: 0,0:58:30.01,0:58:33.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have narrators in a greater number,\Nand which are the ones which Dialogue: 0,0:58:33.08,0:58:34.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can be termed as 'Mutawatir'. Dialogue: 0,0:58:34.52,0:58:39.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hence these are in fact discussions\Nand debates about the historical corpus. Dialogue: 0,0:58:39.03,0:58:41.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is an altogether different topic\Nif required we can Dialogue: 0,0:58:41.55,0:58:42.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,discuss it on some occasion. Dialogue: 0,0:58:42.98,0:58:46.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,However, my point of view\Nis quite clear and fixed that Dialogue: 0,0:58:46.08,0:58:50.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Deen is in the Quran and the Sunnah,\Nwhatever we get in Hadees are in fact the Dialogue: 0,0:58:50.54,0:58:54.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,understanding and manifestation of Deen,\Nit will be the reporting of the Dialogue: 0,0:58:54.08,0:58:56.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,life of the Prophet (pbuh),\Nit will be the Seerah and the Dialogue: 0,0:58:56.87,0:58:58.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,biography of the Prophet (pbuh). Dialogue: 0,0:58:58.54,0:59:01.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And for such things the\Nprimary source is Hadees, Dialogue: 0,0:59:01.51,0:59:04.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we will refer to it, and as\Nfar as the Deen is concerned, Dialogue: 0,0:59:04.98,0:59:08.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it has along with its creed\Nand practices Dialogue: 0,0:59:08.05,0:59:10.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,been completely stated in\Nthe Quran and the Sunnah. Dialogue: 0,0:59:10.55,0:59:12.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is quite a different issue. Dialogue: 0,0:59:12.21,0:59:13.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Hassan] Right, Ghamidi Sahab,\Nwe move ahead. Dialogue: 0,0:59:13.50,0:59:16.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do tell us, you have, with regard\Nto the status of this land, Dialogue: 0,0:59:16.97,0:59:19.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,elaborated in detail to us\Nfrom the Quran itself Dialogue: 0,0:59:19.34,0:59:22.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the sayings of the\NProphet (pbuh) as well, Dialogue: 0,0:59:22.51,0:59:26.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the question is, whatever,\Nis being seen in the Kingdom, Dialogue: 0,0:59:26.54,0:59:32.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,concerts, music, and dance events\Nare being inaugurated, Dialogue: 0,0:59:32.58,0:59:35.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and similarly, international\Ncelebrities are coming down, Dialogue: 0,0:59:35.55,0:59:38.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all of it is happening which\Ntakes place commonly Dialogue: 0,0:59:38.54,0:59:42.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for entertainment in most countries,\Nso the point of view, Dialogue: 0,0:59:42.54,0:59:45.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which you had stated about this region\Nand this land with regard Dialogue: 0,0:59:45.96,0:59:49.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to its special status,\Nso whatever is taking place right now, Dialogue: 0,0:59:49.95,0:59:53.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what should be the\Nattitude of the scholars? Dialogue: 0,0:59:53.00,0:59:55.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Whether they should condemn\Nor make it permissible? Dialogue: 0,0:59:55.50,1:00:00.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can this be tolerated considering the special\Nsensitivity with respect to this land? Dialogue: 0,1:00:00.53,1:00:02.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or is it just for the 'Haramain'\N(The Two Holy Masjids), Dialogue: 0,1:00:02.49,1:00:04.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and outside it, they\Ndo whatever they wish. Dialogue: 0,1:00:04.54,1:00:07.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Ghamidi] In the last session\Nthis had been clarified, Dialogue: 0,1:00:07.54,1:00:11.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i.e. one, there are the Haramain, or\Nwe may say Mecca and Medina, Dialogue: 0,1:00:11.55,1:00:16.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the status of these two cities in this\Nland is again quite special. Dialogue: 0,1:00:16.51,1:00:19.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i.e. these two cities\Nhold the status Dialogue: 0,1:00:19.56,1:00:23.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the Center of God's Deen\Nin this whole universe. Dialogue: 0,1:00:23.54,1:00:25.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These are the cities\Nof the two Masjids. Dialogue: 0,1:00:25.53,1:00:27.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The one in Mecca is also Masjid-e Haram,\Nactually, that too is a Masjid which Dialogue: 0,1:00:27.98,1:00:29.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was built by Hazrat Ibrahim. Dialogue: 0,1:00:29.100,1:00:34.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We may say that the second\Nand the biggest phase of Prophethood, Dialogue: 0,1:00:34.04,1:00:37.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it may be called\Nthe most distinct phase, Dialogue: 0,1:00:37.12,1:00:39.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Syedna Ibrahim (pbuh) had\Nbeen its pioneer. Dialogue: 0,1:00:39.50,1:00:44.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He built it. And the second Masjid\Nwas built by the last Prophet of Allah. Dialogue: 0,1:00:44.58,1:00:47.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Therefore the Prophethood\Nended upon it. Dialogue: 0,1:00:47.20,1:00:51.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These cities likewise should be\Nmaintained as the cities of Deen. Dialogue: 0,1:00:51.54,1:00:54.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with regard to their ambiance\Nand environment, Dialogue: 0,1:00:54.06,1:00:56.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with regard to its teachings\Nand instructions, Dialogue: 0,1:00:56.54,1:01:00.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if a person residing there\Nis not comfortable with its atmosphere, Dialogue: 0,1:01:00.40,1:01:04.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is an ambiance for 'Ibadah' (worship)\Nlike we expect in a Masjid, Dialogue: 0,1:01:04.54,1:01:07.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so the whole city should therefore\Nbe in conformity with it. Dialogue: 0,1:01:07.14,1:01:11.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This should be taken care of by the\NGovernments and the people as well. Dialogue: 0,1:01:11.54,1:01:13.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If a person does not have\Nthe capacity for patience Dialogue: 0,1:01:13.47,1:01:15.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then he may move on to other cities. Dialogue: 0,1:01:15.55,1:01:19.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This was regarding Harmain,\Ni.e. the status of Mecca and Medina Dialogue: 0,1:01:19.98,1:01:22.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where the two Masjids are situated. Dialogue: 0,1:01:22.48,1:01:26.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am repeating again,\Nthe decorum that we maintain for a Masjid, Dialogue: 0,1:01:26.54,1:01:29.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the same decorum should\Nbe in consideration for them. Dialogue: 0,1:01:29.51,1:01:33.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The whole city should thrive\Non those principles and facts, Dialogue: 0,1:01:33.57,1:01:39.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,should be maintained, and all those\Nthings should be kept in consideration. Dialogue: 0,1:01:39.52,1:01:41.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The rest of the Kingdom\Nhas a general status. Dialogue: 0,1:01:41.50,1:01:46.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,However, that general status is special\Nas compared to the rest of the world. Dialogue: 0,1:01:46.45,1:01:51.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Since there cannot be accommodated\Nanything except the Deen of Allah, Dialogue: 0,1:01:51.53,1:01:54.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it implies that in totality,\Nthe whole ambiance should be Dialogue: 0,1:01:54.49,1:01:59.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in line with the Deen of Allah. Dialogue: 0,1:01:59.58,1:02:02.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The ulema will draw attention too,\Nthey would speak on it, Dialogue: 0,1:02:02.57,1:02:05.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and advise as well. Now where the\Nlimits have been crossed, Dialogue: 0,1:02:05.55,1:02:08.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what can be tolerated,\Nand which will be subjects Dialogue: 0,1:02:08.52,1:02:12.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,made for preachings and advice,\Nall these topics can be Dialogue: 0,1:02:12.49,1:02:16.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,discussed, however,\Nin the general environment which prevails Dialogue: 0,1:02:16.52,1:02:20.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the whole of the Arabian Peninsula,\Nit is the demand of Deen, Dialogue: 0,1:02:20.09,1:02:23.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that it should be of the dominance\Nand superiority of Deen. Dialogue: 0,1:02:23.55,1:02:25.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the Center of our Deen. Dialogue: 0,1:02:25.56,1:02:27.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Hassan] Okay Ghamidi Sahab,\Nplease do state, Dialogue: 0,1:02:27.59,1:02:29.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when you say that\Nthis whole region should Dialogue: 0,1:02:29.56,1:02:32.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,maintain such an environment,\Nso there are five other Dialogue: 0,1:02:32.51,1:02:35.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,countries in the region as well,\Nthe United Arab Emirates, Dialogue: 0,1:02:35.53,1:02:38.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Qatar, Oman, Kuwait,\Nall of these constitute the Dialogue: 0,1:02:38.52,1:02:41.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Arabian Peninsula,\Nso the question that comes to mind, Dialogue: 0,1:02:41.59,1:02:46.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as you often talk of democracy,\Nso if democracy is established Dialogue: 0,1:02:46.01,1:02:48.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in this region\Nthen the majority would Dialogue: 0,1:02:48.08,1:02:50.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,make decisions in their own way,\Nthere are a lot of Dialogue: 0,1:02:50.56,1:02:52.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,requisites for a democracy,\Nthere the opposition Dialogue: 0,1:02:52.84,1:02:55.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is also present to criticize,\Nfreedom of expression Dialogue: 0,1:02:55.32,1:02:58.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thought and action exist too,\Nthen how can the sanctity Dialogue: 0,1:02:58.56,1:03:03.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of this region be maintained\Nwhen molded in the democratic system Dialogue: 0,1:03:03.53,1:03:05.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the present times. Dialogue: 0,1:03:05.52,1:03:08.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Ghamidi] We have to tell the people this,\Nthat they must maintain this. Dialogue: 0,1:03:08.58,1:03:12.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i.e. to maintain its sanctity\Nneither the Angels will come nor any Dialogue: 0,1:03:12.55,1:03:16.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,particular family would be called for.\NThe people will have to be talked to. Dialogue: 0,1:03:16.04,1:03:19.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Muslims that live there.\NThey will be told. Dialogue: 0,1:03:19.05,1:03:23.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When their majority will accept it,\Nunderstand and take care of this, Dialogue: 0,1:03:23.59,1:03:25.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then the environment will be maintained. Dialogue: 0,1:03:25.56,1:03:28.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If it doesn't exist, we should study the\Nhistory of Bani Israel. Dialogue: 0,1:03:28.50,1:03:32.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Palestine had the same status.\NHow did Allah (swt) deal with them? Dialogue: 0,1:03:32.56,1:03:37.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hence, this is not done,\Nthat to maintain this the people Dialogue: 0,1:03:37.52,1:03:41.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are deprived of their rights.\NThat their freedom is seized. Dialogue: 0,1:03:41.55,1:03:44.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or monarchy of a family\Nis imposed upon them. Dialogue: 0,1:03:44.53,1:03:47.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or a monarchy composed of a few\Nfamilies is imposed upon them. Dialogue: 0,1:03:47.00,1:03:50.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Whatever points are being expressed\Nthat this is the requisite for Deen, Dialogue: 0,1:03:50.57,1:03:52.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that Deen has given\Nthis status to this land. Dialogue: 0,1:03:52.58,1:03:55.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have to maintain\Nthe predominance of Deen over it. Dialogue: 0,1:03:55.51,1:03:57.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Who is being told all this? Dialogue: 0,1:03:57.57,1:04:00.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To the people who have\Naccepted Iman, Muslims. Dialogue: 0,1:04:00.44,1:04:03.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the more this will\Nhappen among the Muslims, Dialogue: 0,1:04:03.56,1:04:05.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,accordingly, it will\Nhave its manifestation. Dialogue: 0,1:04:05.56,1:04:07.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if this is not found\Namong Muslims, Dialogue: 0,1:04:07.58,1:04:10.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then what do you think,\Nwe won't let anything appear outside Dialogue: 0,1:04:10.54,1:04:12.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,while internally everything\Nwould be going on. Dialogue: 0,1:04:12.53,1:04:13.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Hassan] Right, right,\NGhamidi Sahab. Dialogue: 0,1:04:13.51,1:04:16.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The last question for today's session,\Nthere were talks about Dialogue: 0,1:04:16.55,1:04:19.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the banning of Tableeghi Jama'at,\Nand the reasons that Dialogue: 0,1:04:19.48,1:04:22.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were presented were\Nthat they are the people of Bid'at, Dialogue: 0,1:04:22.11,1:04:24.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and their books contain Weak Narrations. Dialogue: 0,1:04:24.07,1:04:26.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The question in principle to you is that\Ndoes it fall in the Dialogue: 0,1:04:26.90,1:04:29.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,jurisdiction of any State that\Nthey, on the basis of people's Dialogue: 0,1:04:29.48,1:04:31.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,E'tiqaadaat (Religious creed),\Nput a restriction on Dialogue: 0,1:04:31.86,1:04:35.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their arrival or departure,\Nand stop the promotion of someone's views, Dialogue: 0,1:04:35.53,1:04:38.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and if there has been a ban\Nimposed on a harmless Jama'at Dialogue: 0,1:04:38.67,1:04:42.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,such as the 'Tableeghi Jama'at' in the\NMuslim Kingdom, then how do you see this? Dialogue: 0,1:04:42.51,1:04:47.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Ghamidi] Wasn't there any ban for the\Nformation of any Jama'at? Dialogue: 0,1:04:47.52,1:04:50.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i.e. 'Jama'ats' (Religious Groups) cannot\Nbe formed in a Monarchy. Dialogue: 0,1:04:50.56,1:04:53.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When the Jama'ats are formed,\Nor organizations are made, Dialogue: 0,1:04:53.54,1:04:57.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then it is obvious that the monarchy\Nwill feel threatened by it. Dialogue: 0,1:04:57.55,1:05:01.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, monarchy, in essence,\Nis not permissible. Dialogue: 0,1:05:01.05,1:05:04.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The restrictions imposed by them,\Nobviously aren't permissible too. Dialogue: 0,1:05:04.51,1:05:07.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So in our Deen, restrictions or ban\Ncannot be imposed Dialogue: 0,1:05:07.60,1:05:12.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on someone's thought or point of view.\NAlbeit, we can caution people for Dialogue: 0,1:05:12.59,1:05:15.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some Bid'at (Innovation in Deen)\Nor for a practice of Shirk (Polytheism). Dialogue: 0,1:05:15.60,1:05:17.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or the Governments elaborate\Nupon these realities Dialogue: 0,1:05:17.94,1:05:19.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the 'Juma Khutbah'\N(Friday Sermon). Dialogue: 0,1:05:19.54,1:05:21.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the Right of\Nevery Government. Dialogue: 0,1:05:21.60,1:05:25.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,However, this will be achievable through\Npreachings and advice or recommendations. Dialogue: 0,1:05:25.55,1:05:27.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there isn't any\Nquestion of banning it. Dialogue: 0,1:05:27.01,1:05:29.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There it is not that this\Nrestriction has been imposed now. Dialogue: 0,1:05:29.83,1:05:32.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The restriction has\Nbeen there forever. Dialogue: 0,1:05:32.16,1:05:35.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had gone there for Hajj in\N1987 for the first time, Dialogue: 0,1:05:35.53,1:05:38.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then too it was clear to me that\Nthough the people of Jama'at Islami Dialogue: 0,1:05:38.50,1:05:42.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Tableeghi Jama'at, and\Nthe way friends get together, Dialogue: 0,1:05:42.56,1:05:45.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or by using the word 'Friends',\Nit was done, Dialogue: 0,1:05:45.07,1:05:49.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,however, the systematic forming of a\NJama'at had never been permissible there. Dialogue: 0,1:05:49.09,1:05:52.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that the point which is being\Ncirculated is not correctly done, Dialogue: 0,1:05:52.58,1:05:55.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i.e. in the Juma Khutba (Friday sermon)\Nfor example, if the quotes Dialogue: 0,1:05:55.87,1:05:59.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of Ulema (Religious Scholars)\Nor of Fuqaha (Experts on Islamic law) Dialogue: 0,1:05:59.02,1:06:00.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are being told,\Nor their Fatwa (Decree) Dialogue: 0,1:06:00.54,1:06:02.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is being stated,\Nthen it is preaching and advice, Dialogue: 0,1:06:02.84,1:06:04.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and nothing more than this. Dialogue: 0,1:06:04.13,1:06:06.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The restrictions had been there\Nearlier and are there now as well. Dialogue: 0,1:06:06.54,1:06:08.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It will stay as it is\Ntill the time Monarchy exists there. Dialogue: 0,1:06:08.52,1:06:11.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When the Democratic System would\Nbe formed there based on Dialogue: 0,1:06:11.50,1:06:15.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Amrahum Shura Bainahum",\Nthen such restrictions cannot be imposed. Dialogue: 0,1:06:15.54,1:06:17.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Hassan] Ghamidi Sahab,\Nwe complete our time allocated, Dialogue: 0,1:06:17.53,1:06:19.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the major change happening\Nin the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, Dialogue: 0,1:06:19.58,1:06:21.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how it is perceived by Ghamidi\NSahab with regard to religion? Dialogue: 0,1:06:21.50,1:06:23.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is the religious point of view? Dialogue: 0,1:06:23.24,1:06:26.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what were the societal causes that\Nprovided a catalyst for such a change? Dialogue: 0,1:06:26.51,1:06:27.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We will be at your service again. Dialogue: 0,1:06:27.50,1:06:30.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you very much Ghamidi Sahab\Nfor your time till now. Dialogue: 0,1:06:30.14,1:06:35.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Translated by Shoeb Khan\NEdited by Faizan Rashid]