WEBVTT 00:00:00.261 --> 00:00:04.122 (Guitar music) 00:00:04.539 --> 00:00:07.315 (Chickens clucking) 00:00:20.012 --> 00:00:22.732 Kristin Windbigler: That's Jack. My boot-making teacher. 00:00:24.781 --> 00:00:28.581 Jack: Now y'all stand back, I'm gonna dump the herd here. 00:00:33.021 --> 00:00:35.602 KW: Jack learned to make boots when he was a youngster, 00:00:35.626 --> 00:00:37.893 growing up in Roswell, New Mexico. 00:00:39.077 --> 00:00:43.228 Jack: I boarded with a family that had a boot and saddle shop. 00:00:43.649 --> 00:00:47.775 When I got out of high school I didn't want to do it for a living. 00:00:49.339 --> 00:00:52.276 I had a lot of runnin' and playin' I had to do. 00:00:52.300 --> 00:00:54.720 I'd get broke and I'd go get a job 00:00:54.744 --> 00:00:56.746 in a boot shop somewhere ... 00:00:59.553 --> 00:01:01.711 but I blew up a knee - 00:01:01.735 --> 00:01:04.617 I could no longer ride horseback for a living 00:01:04.641 --> 00:01:07.618 so I went back to making boots 00:01:07.642 --> 00:01:11.303 and had been doing that for 25 years. 00:01:11.665 --> 00:01:13.839 I've almost got it figured out. 00:01:13.863 --> 00:01:17.386 (Guitar music) 00:01:55.036 --> 00:01:57.964 (Music ends) 00:01:59.377 --> 00:02:01.067 (Typing) 00:02:02.131 --> 00:02:03.848 KW: That's me. 00:02:03.872 --> 00:02:06.523 I grew up in Humboldt County, California, 00:02:06.547 --> 00:02:09.680 a place my family has lived for 7 generations. 00:02:10.189 --> 00:02:13.831 By the time I left high school, I thought I'd had my fill of county life, 00:02:13.855 --> 00:02:15.053 which was convenient, 00:02:15.077 --> 00:02:18.208 since there weren't many employment opportunities for me at home. 00:02:18.720 --> 00:02:19.903 I left for college 00:02:19.927 --> 00:02:23.283 and then landed a job at a high-tech outfit in San Francisco. 00:02:23.307 --> 00:02:25.945 It wasn't long though, before I was homesick. 00:02:26.314 --> 00:02:27.791 I don't know when it happened, 00:02:27.815 --> 00:02:30.496 but all of a sudden patching fence and bucking hay 00:02:30.520 --> 00:02:32.474 started sounding like a lot of fun. 00:02:32.498 --> 00:02:35.431 Very much worthy of a five hour drive home. 00:02:35.926 --> 00:02:39.577 I think it was the same longing that made me email Jack one day 00:02:39.601 --> 00:02:42.235 to see if he'd show me how to make boots. 00:02:42.823 --> 00:02:44.268 Jack is a great teacher. 00:02:44.292 --> 00:02:46.641 And he believes in taking his time. 00:02:46.665 --> 00:02:49.458 Leather is an unforgiving material to work with 00:02:49.482 --> 00:02:51.950 so there isn't a lot of room for mistakes. 00:02:51.974 --> 00:02:55.847 Jack: See, what you want to do is - 00:02:55.871 --> 00:02:58.660 ideally you'll lay your top out ... 00:03:01.656 --> 00:03:04.378 to where the stretch goes across the top. 00:03:05.157 --> 00:03:08.244 When you put your foot down in the top, 00:03:08.268 --> 00:03:10.436 the top will expand. 00:03:11.355 --> 00:03:13.664 Glenn is another one of Jack's students. 00:03:13.688 --> 00:03:16.220 He's hoping to retire from school-teaching soon 00:03:16.244 --> 00:03:18.878 and start a second career as a boot maker. 00:03:19.426 --> 00:03:22.339 He's been coming up to Jack's for about a year now. 00:03:23.180 --> 00:03:25.609 Glenn: I read about him in one of those boot books, 00:03:25.633 --> 00:03:26.834 believe it or not. 00:03:26.858 --> 00:03:29.386 I can't remember which one, but it had his address. 00:03:30.053 --> 00:03:33.993 I thought, there is no way somebody in Manton makes boots, 00:03:34.017 --> 00:03:35.942 because I knew where Manton was, right. 00:03:36.601 --> 00:03:38.179 I just couldn't believe it. 00:03:39.498 --> 00:03:42.658 So I called him up, and he said, "Yeah, come on out here." 00:03:45.762 --> 00:03:46.912 (Sound of hammer) 00:03:47.628 --> 00:03:50.423 And that's what I have been doing ever since. 00:03:51.747 --> 00:03:53.605 KW: The experience that comes with age 00:03:53.629 --> 00:03:56.624 hasn't dampened Jack's youthful enthusiasm for life. 00:03:56.942 --> 00:04:00.303 Every time I visit, he tells me a handful of new stories 00:04:00.327 --> 00:04:01.910 about his adventures. 00:04:01.934 --> 00:04:03.534 I believe them all, too. 00:04:03.878 --> 00:04:05.046 Except maybe the one 00:04:05.070 --> 00:04:07.871 about how his family drove bullfrogs to San Francisco 00:04:07.895 --> 00:04:09.617 during the Great Depression. 00:04:09.641 --> 00:04:12.863 It would take days to share all of the stories with you. 00:04:12.887 --> 00:04:15.180 So instead, here's a little taste. 00:04:15.204 --> 00:04:18.560 Jack: He set me up there to sort the cattle. 00:04:18.584 --> 00:04:21.101 We'd loaded that - 00:04:21.125 --> 00:04:28.069 oh, I would say he was probably 1200-pound, 2-year-old buffalo 00:04:28.093 --> 00:04:30.122 in the back of that pick-up. 00:04:30.497 --> 00:04:34.291 Well, actually, Rosie was already in Elko. 00:04:34.315 --> 00:04:38.101 We had a couple of pillows, we had a sleeping bag 00:04:38.125 --> 00:04:39.525 and a blanket or two. 00:04:41.947 --> 00:04:43.480 And a bottle to pee in. 00:04:44.873 --> 00:04:46.080 And - 00:04:46.104 --> 00:04:48.696 I got on Stan Brock's horse 00:04:48.720 --> 00:04:50.744 and went and roped the bear. 00:04:50.768 --> 00:04:54.950 The first run I raised up and reached up and knocked my wig off. 00:04:54.974 --> 00:04:57.875 And no kid stuck his head in the door 00:04:58.736 --> 00:05:01.299 My God, you're from California! 00:05:01.679 --> 00:05:03.045 You know, it was - 00:05:04.920 --> 00:05:08.658 you know, the aliens have landed. 00:05:08.682 --> 00:05:11.131 The Pope admired his boots ... 00:05:13.340 --> 00:05:15.407 and the dummy gave them to him. 00:05:17.763 --> 00:05:21.179 KW: Part of being one of Jack's students is getting to know his routine. 00:05:21.573 --> 00:05:23.160 After a few hours of work, 00:05:23.184 --> 00:05:25.513 we head down to the diner for a morning meal. 00:05:25.537 --> 00:05:28.529 As does most of the rest of Maton, California. 00:05:28.553 --> 00:05:30.085 Or at least it seems that way. 00:05:30.109 --> 00:05:33.664 I felt like I'd met everyone in town within a few days. 00:05:34.347 --> 00:05:36.482 After lunch, it's back to work. 00:05:36.506 --> 00:05:37.973 Well, at least for me. 00:05:39.720 --> 00:05:41.982 Jack: Well, I tell you what - 00:05:42.006 --> 00:05:44.448 I'm gonna let you play with this a little bit 00:05:44.472 --> 00:05:45.805 and think about this 00:05:46.538 --> 00:05:49.291 And look at leather 00:05:49.315 --> 00:05:53.451 and you know, try some different colors if you so desire or - 00:05:56.152 --> 00:05:58.019 And I'm gonna go take a nap. 00:05:59.208 --> 00:06:02.287 KW: Once we spend a few more hours working on our boots, 00:06:02.311 --> 00:06:04.228 and the day is coming to an end, 00:06:04.252 --> 00:06:06.291 there's still more work to be done. 00:06:06.315 --> 00:06:07.490 It turns out 00:06:07.514 --> 00:06:09.958 that an important part of learning how to make boots 00:06:09.982 --> 00:06:12.236 involves helping Jack with his chores. 00:06:12.260 --> 00:06:13.466 It's nice, though, 00:06:13.490 --> 00:06:16.863 after spending most of the day trying to learn something new, 00:06:16.887 --> 00:06:20.487 to finish with tasks I've got years of experience doing. 00:06:21.173 --> 00:06:23.553 I'm making my second pair of boots now. 00:06:23.577 --> 00:06:25.220 But after I made my first, 00:06:25.244 --> 00:06:27.245 I wore them everywhere I went. 00:06:27.269 --> 00:06:29.641 All the way from home place, in Hubmboldt County, 00:06:29.665 --> 00:06:32.114 to San Francisco, to New York City. 00:06:32.138 --> 00:06:33.482 I was pretty proud of them, 00:06:33.506 --> 00:06:36.315 and I admit it - I wanted to show them off. 00:06:36.339 --> 00:06:40.998 They may look like just an ordinary pair of brown, leather boots to some people. 00:06:41.022 --> 00:06:42.879 But every time I pull them on, 00:06:42.903 --> 00:06:46.141 I am reminded of the time I get to spend with Jack. 00:06:46.165 --> 00:06:48.878 (Guitar music) 00:06:51.021 --> 00:06:53.051 [Boot Camp] 00:06:58.518 --> 00:07:01.077 [By Kristin Windbigler] 00:07:03.397 --> 00:07:05.545 [Music: Matthew Margolin] 00:07:09.157 --> 00:07:12.592 [Camera help: Donna Crowe, Glenn Deno, Shawn, Wendy Owen] 00:07:13.911 --> 00:07:17.307 [Special thanks: Taki Telonidis, Patrick Mullins, the Windbigler family] 00:07:17.331 --> 00:07:18.931 [Jim Frew, Evany Thomas] 00:07:19.233 --> 00:07:21.166 [The Western Folklife Center] 00:07:24.501 --> 00:07:26.475 [And Jack Rowin] 00:07:29.857 --> 00:07:32.111 (Music ends) 00:07:33.519 --> 00:07:35.182 [Deep West]