1 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:12,440 [El Anatsui: Studio Process] 2 00:00:20,500 --> 00:00:25,300 The studio is located in the university town of Nsukka 3 00:00:25,300 --> 00:00:28,300 in southeastern Nigeria. 4 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:40,120 It's about 10, 20 minutes, by walking, north of the university campus. 5 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:48,539 There are times when I come in unexpectedly, 6 00:00:48,539 --> 00:00:51,539 and then I'll park my car elsewhere 7 00:00:51,539 --> 00:00:54,710 and walk in and you hear a lot of... 8 00:00:54,710 --> 00:00:58,950 There's a lot of, how do you call it now, banter. [LAUGHS] 9 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:01,140 Very loud banter. 10 00:01:01,149 --> 00:01:05,369 When I go in, then they all keep quiet. 11 00:01:05,369 --> 00:01:06,729 [LAUGHS] 12 00:01:07,700 --> 00:01:12,660 Because I always demand that there should be absolute silence in there-- 13 00:01:12,660 --> 00:01:14,760 or as much silence as possible. 14 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:18,700 Because I try to impress upon them that a studio is a sacred place 15 00:01:18,700 --> 00:01:24,440 that you come to do some bit of reflection and thinking. 16 00:01:37,460 --> 00:01:42,700 For each new, say, pattern or texture that I'm introducing, 17 00:01:42,700 --> 00:01:46,010 I have to show them how it's done, 18 00:01:46,010 --> 00:01:47,970 because I find that, as an artist, 19 00:01:47,970 --> 00:01:55,510 if you don't maintain physical contact with handling the material, for instance, 20 00:01:55,510 --> 00:01:59,890 the work might end up not having a soul. 21 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,800 First of all, they have to do the units-- 22 00:02:20,810 --> 00:02:22,560 we call them "blocks"-- 23 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:28,140 and a block can consist of maybe two hundred and something bottle caps together. 24 00:02:29,370 --> 00:02:34,170 And so you take these units and then start playing around with them. 25 00:02:34,170 --> 00:02:38,680 Then that's when you now have to lay all of them out, 26 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:39,980 scatter them in the studio, 27 00:02:39,980 --> 00:02:46,580 and then start picking what you need for each portion of the work. 28 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,540 They put them together in a bunch 29 00:02:54,540 --> 00:02:58,120 and you try to see what it can suggest. 30 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:10,540 If it's something that you feel is interesting, 31 00:03:10,540 --> 00:03:12,440 or something effective, 32 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,300 then you have started a new idea. 33 00:03:19,260 --> 00:03:20,580 You just play around-- 34 00:03:20,590 --> 00:03:22,310 play around, shift around, 35 00:03:22,310 --> 00:03:25,570 and at times, for days, you can just keep shifting things around. 36 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,140 And taking photographs of them, 37 00:03:30,140 --> 00:03:33,020 and putting them on the computer and... 38 00:03:33,020 --> 00:03:36,500 So I have a lot of images on my computer. 39 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:42,880 In course of time, I could go back and just keep looking at this. 40 00:03:45,020 --> 00:03:49,680 You need a very large bank of images-- 41 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,060 of effects, of textures-- 42 00:03:53,070 --> 00:03:55,910 that I can always refer to, 43 00:03:55,910 --> 00:03:59,530 and they could trigger off new ideas. 44 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:06,820 Because ideas do come at very unusual times.