1 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 2 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Tonight the deep dive 3 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 One company's secret weapon for innovation. 4 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 (Music) 5 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 we went to IDEO product design folk 6 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and said take something old and familiar like say 7 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the shopping cart and completely redesign it for us 8 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 in just five days. 9 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 ABC correspondent Jack Smith tells us 10 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 what happened next. 11 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 9 in the morning, 12 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 day one 13 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and these people have a deadline to meet. 14 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So welcome to the kick off of the shopping cart project. 15 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 This is Palo Alto, California in the heart of Silicon valley 16 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and these are designers at IDEO 17 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 probably the most influential product development firm in the world. 18 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 IDEO has designed everything from high tech medical equipment, 19 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 25 foot mechanical whale from the movie Free Willy 20 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and the first computer mouse for apple. 21 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Smith Ski goggles, Mike sunglasses, NEC computer screens. 22 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Hundreds of products we take for granted. 23 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 The point is we're not actually experts at 24 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 any given are, 25 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 we're kind of experts on the process of how you design stuff, 26 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 so we don't care if you give us a tooth brush, 27 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 a tooth paste tube, 28 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 a tractor, a space shuttle, 29 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 you know a chair, 30 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 it's all the same to us, 31 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 we like want to figure out how to innovate 32 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 by using our process and applying it. 33 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Project leader, is Peter Skillman a 25 year old Standford engineer. 34 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Project leader because he's good with groups 35 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 not because of seniority. 36 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 He's only been at IDEO for 6 years. 37 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the rest of the team is eclectic. 38 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 But that's typical here. 39 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Whitney Mordimore, Harvard MBA. 40 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Peter Claughmen, Linguist, 41 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Tom Kelley, Dave's brother, marketing expert, 42 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Jane Fultonsury, psychologist. 43 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Alex Casacks, 26, a biology major. 44 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Whose turned down medical school 3 times 45 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 because he's having too much fun at IDEO. 46 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Safety emerges early as an important issue. 47 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 22,000 child injuries a year, 48 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 which is, so they're hospitalized injuries 49 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I mean there are many others. 50 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 An theft. 51 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It turns out, a lot of carts are stolen. 52 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 As the team works, 53 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 it becomes clear there are no titles here, 54 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 no permanent assignments. 55 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And the other side says, 56 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 gives us a lot help says, be safe. 57 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 (Laughing) 58 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I'll give you a big red ball on a 59 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 on a post and that says you're a big guy. 60 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 If you got a ball, 61 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 you're senior vice president. 62 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 You know, what do I care, 63 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 of the death, the red ball it's all the same. 64 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 In a very innovative culture you can't have a kind of hierarchy 65 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 like here's the boss, and the next person down and the next person down. 66 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Because it's impossible that the boss is the one who had the insightful experience 67 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 with shopping carts, 68 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 it's just not possible. 69 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 The team splits into groups, 70 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to find out first hand what the people who use, 71 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 make, and repair shopping carts think. 72 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Okay go. 73 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Problem with the classic cart is the wind catches it. 74 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And these things have been clocked at 35 across the parking lot. 75 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 (Laughing) 76 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Man, that's actually a pretty good point. 77 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 The trick is to find these 78 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 real experts so that you can learn much more quickly 79 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 than you could by jut kind of doing it the normal way. 80 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and just kind of learn about it yourself. 81 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 From everything I read these things aren't that safe either. 82 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 You know. 83 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So.. probably, the seat itself is going to have to be redesigned. 84 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 One of the interesting things for me, 85 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 is how people really don't like to let go 86 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 of the cat, 87 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 except for the professional shopper. 88 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Whose strategy is to leave the cart at various places. 89 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 3:30 in the afternoon, 90 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and the group is back at IDEO. 91 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 There is no let up. 92 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Each team is going to demonstrate, 93 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and communicate and share everything that they've learned today. 94 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 A shopping cart has been clocked at 35 miles an hour, 95 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 traveling through a parking lot in the wind. 96 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 We were in the store, what two hours, 97 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and it was truly frightening just to see the stuff that was going on. 98 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 You got to designate some people 99 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to make damn sure that the store owners point of view is represented. 100 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 After 9 straight hours, 101 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the team is tired. 102 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 They call it a day. 103 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So uh-- is everyone cool? 104 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 That's good, thanks a lot. 105 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I had a great time today. 106 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 (Clapping) 107 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 IDEO's mantra for innovation is written everywhere. 108 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 One conversation at a time, 109 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 stay focused, 110 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 encourage wild ideas, 111 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 defer judgment, 112 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 build on the ideas of others. 113 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 That's the hardest thing for people do, 114 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 is to restrain themselves from the 115 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 criticizing of an idea 116 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 so if anybody starts to nail an idea they get the bell. 117 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 (Ding) 118 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 The ideas are poured out and are posted on the walls. 119 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 On the blind, the privacy blind 120 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 like when you're buying 6 cases of condoms 121 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 no one sees. 122 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 A dozen nests, 123 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 we don't have a solution for this. 124 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Organized kit, 125 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 it's not organized, what it is, is focused chaos. 126 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Vote with your post it, 127 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 not with an idea that's cool, 128 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 but with an idea that's cool and build able. 129 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 If it's too far out there, 130 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and it can't be built in a day, 131 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 then I don't think we should vote on it. 132 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 In lighten trial and error, 133 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 succeeds over the planning of the lone genius. 134 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 In lighten trial and error, 135 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 succeeds over the planning of the lone genius. 136 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 If anything sums up IDEO's approach, 137 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that is it. 138 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Worried that the team is drifting, 139 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 what can only be called a group of self appointed adults, 140 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 under Dave Kelley, 141 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 holds an informal side session. 142 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 4 or 5 people, 4 or 5 teams 143 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and we give each team a neat area. 144 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It becomes very autocratic, 145 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 through a very shot period of time 146 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 in defining what things people are going to work on. 147 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 If you don't work under time constraints, 148 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 you could never get anything done because it's a messy process that could go on forever. 149 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Back at the shop, 150 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 it is 6 o clock before mock ups are ready for showing. 151 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Baskets also can be if you think you will have more volume, 152 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 baskets can be put in. 153 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 A modular shopping cart , 154 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 you pile hand baskets on to. 155 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 A high tech cart, 156 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that gets you through the traffic jam at check out. 157 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 You could mount a scanner on the shopping cart, 158 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 so that you as the customer as you pull it off the shelf, 159 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 would scan each item. 160 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 One that's built around child safety. 161 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And another that let's shoppes talk to the super market staff remotely. 162 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Yeah, where can I find the yoghourt? 163 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 But the adults, again, decide more work needs to be done 164 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 before the mock ups can be combined into one last prototype. 165 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Why don't we have all the carts come up here for a second. 166 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I think you take a piece of each one of these ideas, 167 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and kind of back it off a little bit 168 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and then put it in the design. 169 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the design is still not there. 170 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 But there's another manta at IDEO, 171 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 fail often, in order to succeed sooner. 172 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And some of the team would be up by half the night, 173 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 trying to put together a design 174 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that finally does work. 175 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 There it is! 176 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 (Cheering) 177 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So we took the best elements out of each prototype. 178 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 The cart which is designed to cost about the same as today's cart, 179 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 is different in every other way. 180 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 what do you think? 181 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 (Laughing) I'm very proud of the team, 182 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I think it's great. 183 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Does this work for you? 184 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Works for me great. 185 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It's also beautiful. 186 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 The carts wheels turn 90 degrees, so i can move sideways, 187 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 no more lifting up the rear in a tight spot. 188 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And you shop in a totally different way. 189 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the bags are hung on hooks, 190 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 on the carts frame, 191 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 remember there is no basket here. 192 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 At first, I was a little shocked, 193 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 but I think you have some fantastic ideas here. 194 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It needs little refining but I think it's great, 195 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I mean we would want them. 196 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 she also gave us some really good comments about how we could make this thing better. 197 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 A lot of hours also an open mind, 198 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 a boss who demands fresh ideas 199 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 be corky and clash with his, 200 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 a belief that chaos can be constructive and team work. 201 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 A great deal of team work. 202 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And these are the recipe for our innovation takes place. 203 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 This is Jack Smith from nightlife Palo Alto, California.