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now before you lose your minds and go

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crazy down in my comments hear me out

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first

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welcome to the tarantula collective my

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name is richard and today we are setting

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up a large communal for the nia hetheli

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nc now if you've been around the

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tarantula hobby for a while you know

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that there are a few species of

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tarantula that can be kept communally

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the most popular of course is the

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monosyntrophys balfouri or the socotra

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island blue baboon they seem to do very

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well in communals but they can be kind

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of expensive another popular species is

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the postal ethereum metallica but again

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they're a little pricey and it's a

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little iffy on whether they're communal

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or they just tolerate being in close

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proximity but there is one species out

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there that the hobby seems to kind of be

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split down the middle some say it's not

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a communal species others have had some

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pretty good luck with them now recently

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i recorded a podcast with dr linda rayer

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she is a professor in the entomology

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department of cornell university and she

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specializes in social spiders during our

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conversation i brought up communal

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tarantula species you need neopolithila

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insane that's a communal i've always

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been a little cautious about i'm glad to

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hear that you've been having so much

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success but i think there's like two or

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three guys that i saw on youtube that

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tried to keep him communally and it went

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bad and they end up separating them back

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out and like lost half of them but i saw

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when i was in virginia beach tanya was

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having a lot of success with with her

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communal there they came for me i have

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enough to populate the us

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right now i might have to hit you up

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because i think i've only got one right

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now one little individual hanging out

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and seriously if you want nc i got nc

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okay

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you just cover the shipping and i will

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send them to you not miss you that

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sounds like a good deal i think it'd be

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fun to have a an nc communal down here

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now if you'd like to hear the entire

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podcast i will be sure to link it at the

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end of this video but she sent me a

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communal in the mail and they just

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arrived today there's probably about 15

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or 16 nia hetheli insist in here uh

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looks like there's some adults some

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juvies i even think i saw a little

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now i gave her a call we talked on the

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phone for a little bit i really wanted

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to pick her brain to figure out what

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type of enclosure i should use because

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searching on google you see amongst the

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people who do keep them communally

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there's still some conflict as to how

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best to set them up some suggest they

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need to be kind of kept compactly in a

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small enclosure that way they don't get

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territorial and fight others say they

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need a large enclosure so they have

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plenty of room to spread out so i went

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straight to the source and talked to dr

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rayer and she suggested that i put them

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all in one large enclosure and keep them

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similarly to how she has her enclosure

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set up she provides plenty of hides as

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well as a lot of vertical cork bars so

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they have plenty of anchor points for

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webbing their tunnels but we'll get more

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into that in a second right now we're

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going to set up this enclosure and get

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these spiders moved into their new home

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now i'm using a large exoterra 18 by 18

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by 24 enclosure i'm going to set it up

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semi-arborally so they do have plenty of

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substrate to burrow but there's gonna be

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a whole lot of room for them to web up

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and kind of give each other space and to

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take things up a notch i'm gonna set it

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up bioactively as well that wasn't

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really my intention from the beginning

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but i had a whole bunch of like half

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empty bags of substrate i had half of a

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large bag of ruptur soil i had some

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jungle mix and i had some bio dude tara

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sahara substrate there's no rhyme or

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reason to it i didn't i didn't do this

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intentionally i'm not suggesting this is

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the best substrate for this species it's

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literally just the open bags i had

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laying around that build up the

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enclosure but since i'm using that

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biodude substrate i mean it's dirt but

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it isn't dirt cheap huh

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ah what do you know it's a bioactive

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substrate and i didn't want to waste it

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so i threw in some springtails and some

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dwarf isopods and took some clippings

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from the plants and my other bioactive

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enclosures to plant and hopefully this

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is going to be a beautiful setup now

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luckily i just got in a large bulk

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shipment of cork bark and if you want to

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see where i got it from i'll link that

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video up above so we're going to go

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ahead and put in all of the different

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cork bark and wood and get the plants

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planted then after that we'll move in

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the spiders now what i did is i took

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those large cork bark rounds that i got

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a few days ago and i've cut them up into

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small little pieces dr rayer suggested

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coconut shells make great hides for them

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but i didn't have any i used the last

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ones i had in my dart frog enclosure but

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the concepts the same the nice little

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places for them to go in web up hide and

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kind of separate so we're gonna lay

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those out in the enclosure i got some

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large tall pieces that we're gonna put

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along the sides so there's gonna be

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plenty of places for them to anchor

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their webbing and hide and retreat and

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it's i think it's gonna look cool so to

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start off i'm putting all of the the

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long tall pieces in the large pieces

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first and this is a front opening

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enclosure so i don't want to get them

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too close to the door because i don't

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want to wet the door shut

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now i might actually get a couple more

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tall pieces because that really doesn't

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provide as much cover as i thought but i

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got another couple pieces of wood too so

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for right now we're going to add some of

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these other like kind of hide type

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pieces

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and of course it wouldn't be a tarantula

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collective enclosure without a skull

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all right i think that looks pretty good

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they got plenty of places to hide plenty

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of web anchors i guess now it's time to

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get the plants in now as you can see

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this is just kind of a hodgepodge of

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plants got some uh different types of

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pothos that i pulled out of a few

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enclosures i'm not even sure what these

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plants are they're in my uh leopard

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geckos enclosure and we got some

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wandering jew i'm sure there's a

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scientific name that's not nearly as

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offensive but i don't know what it is

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i'll put it down below these are nice

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because they're going to grow and wrap

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around stuff give them even more places

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to hide and more places to anchor their

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webbing

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[Applause]

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[Music]

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now we got all the plants in i'm gonna

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do a little bit more decorating we'll

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add some like just different leaves and

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that actually has two purposes one it

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looks cool it gives it more of a natural

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appearance but it's also food and

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shelter for the isopods and the

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springtails that are in there but before

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i do that i've got this i've been

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putting this it's called stone deserts

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by exoterra it's mainly like scorpions

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and and desert reptiles but i sprinkle

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some of my enclosures on the top and it

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really kind of looks cool

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sphagnum moss i just like to shred it up

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break it all over there and i use both

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the white and the green kind i also like

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to shove it in any cracks or crevices

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just gives a more natural kind of look

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and just mix it up a little bit with the

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substrate

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now put in some leaves

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i feel like that's looking pretty good i

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think we're about ready to move in these

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spiders

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so

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so all the plants are watered everything

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is set up i put the lid on the enclosure

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the only things left to do is to move

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these spiders in now you may be nervous

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i'm a little nervous but dr rayer

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assures me that this is going to work

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well and these are all from communals

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that are like multi-generational so

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their whole life they've known nothing

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but living communally so maybe the fact

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that it's generation after generation

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after generation of being kept

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communally maybe they'll be more adapted

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to surviving this type of enclosure and

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hopefully it goes really well so we're

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gonna count how many we have get them

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set up in here and i'll keep you updated

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as time goes by you know just kind of

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let you know how the communals go and

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how everybody's doing but if it works

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out anywhere near as well as dr rayer's

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enclosure probably gonna end up having

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tons of these in no time soon so let's

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check out these beautiful tarantulas get

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them moved into this nice new home up

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first this is uh just says five or six

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neo from another group plus one young

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baby

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oh wow they've already started webbing

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up this little deli cup far i don't see

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anyone i mean i can't not right on top

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at least i can see them like in through

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the sides and stuff

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so that's one down see another big one

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right up here see if we can get it to

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come on in

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so we've got three in so far i just

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found the fourth one

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all right i found the fifth one and the

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little spiderling

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oh wow that one's big

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that is cool

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definitely get a picture of that

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so far we've got five two that are solid

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adults at least and one little

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spiderling now this one says eight and

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they all look to be pretty good size

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they're dwarf species so they're not

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very big this enclosure has given them

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more than enough room i think they're

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going to be really happy in here the

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difficulty with rehousing communals is

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that there's so many of them you got to

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have the doors open to get them in so

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not only are you watching the spiders

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that you're moving out of the deli cups

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into the enclosure you also have to keep

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an eye out for all the spiders that are

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already in the enclosure that may try to

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come out the front door and this is

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they've already webbed this thing up

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shut there's one right up on top so i'm

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gonna try and get this lid open oh it

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also looks like it molted not too long

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ago look at that beauty

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so we'll go ahead and get that one moved

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in

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gotta be very thorough make sure

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nobody's hiding these paper towels

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i see two right next to each other look

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at that they're like they're cuddling

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now these are actually

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both color forms it looks like there's

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the normal color form

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and the gold color form which is pretty

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impressive

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well

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and it's on me

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uh-oh

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yeah i got you

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oh what were you doing you're not

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escaping me

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let's get you back in your home

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so a huge thanks to dr linda rayer from

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cornell university for sending me all of

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these spiders and i will keep you all

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updated on how this communal progresses

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i'm going to give it a few days for

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everyone to settle in start webbing

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things up and take some more video

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because i really have high hopes this is

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going to work out well and it's just

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going to look amazing now if you want to

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listen to the conversation where we

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really dive deep talking about social

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spiders and communal tarantulas just

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click this thumbnail right here and if

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you want to see my other videos about

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communal tarantulas just click this

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thumbnail right there as always i

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appreciate you watching subscribe if you

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want to see more like this video if you

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like communal species and i will see you

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next tuesday

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