[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:01.84,0:00:03.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I thought I'd talk about identity. Dialogue: 0,0:00:03.63,0:00:06.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's sort of an interesting\Nenough topic to me. Dialogue: 0,0:00:06.17,0:00:09.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the reason was,\Nbecause when I was asked to do this, Dialogue: 0,0:00:09.58,0:00:13.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'd just read in one of the papers,\NI can't remember, Dialogue: 0,0:00:13.03,0:00:15.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something from someone at Facebook saying, Dialogue: 0,0:00:15.93,0:00:18.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Well, we need to make everybody\Nuse their real names, Dialogue: 0,0:00:18.54,0:00:20.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then that's basically\Nall the problems solved." Dialogue: 0,0:00:21.00,0:00:22.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's so wrong, Dialogue: 0,0:00:22.48,0:00:26.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's such a fundamentally\Nreactionary view of identity, Dialogue: 0,0:00:26.23,0:00:28.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's going to get us\Ninto all sorts of trouble. Dialogue: 0,0:00:28.65,0:00:30.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so what I thought I'd do is, Dialogue: 0,0:00:30.22,0:00:34.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'll explain four sort of\Nproblems about it, Dialogue: 0,0:00:34.20,0:00:35.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then I'll suggest a solution, Dialogue: 0,0:00:36.02,0:00:38.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which, hopefully,\Nyou might find interesting. Dialogue: 0,0:00:38.16,0:00:39.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So just to frame the problem: Dialogue: 0,0:00:39.94,0:00:41.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What does "authenticity" mean? Dialogue: 0,0:00:41.73,0:00:43.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's me, Dialogue: 0,0:00:43.30,0:00:47.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's a camera phone picture\Nof me looking at a painting. Dialogue: 0,0:00:47.94,0:00:49.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[What's the Problem?] Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.03,0:00:51.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's a painting that was painted\Nby a very famous forger, Dialogue: 0,0:00:51.83,0:00:54.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and because I'm not very good\Nat presentations, Dialogue: 0,0:00:54.06,0:00:56.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I already can't remember the name\Nthat I wrote on my card. Dialogue: 0,0:00:56.83,0:01:00.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he was incarcerated in,\NI think, Wakefield Prison, Dialogue: 0,0:01:00.46,0:01:04.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for forging masterpieces by,\NI think, French Impressionists. Dialogue: 0,0:01:04.26,0:01:07.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he's so good at it\Nthat when he was in prison, Dialogue: 0,0:01:07.17,0:01:09.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everybody in prison,\Nthe governor and whatever, Dialogue: 0,0:01:09.39,0:01:11.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wanted him to paint masterpieces\Nto put on the walls Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.85,0:01:13.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they were so good. Dialogue: 0,0:01:13.12,0:01:16.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so that's a masterpiece,\Nwhich is a fake of a masterpiece, Dialogue: 0,0:01:16.32,0:01:23.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and bonded into the canvas is a chip\Nwhich identifies that as a real fake, Dialogue: 0,0:01:23.03,0:01:24.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you see what I mean. Dialogue: 0,0:01:24.22,0:01:25.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:01:25.29,0:01:27.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So when we're talking about authenticity, Dialogue: 0,0:01:27.60,0:01:29.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's a little more fractal\Nthan it appears, Dialogue: 0,0:01:29.92,0:01:32.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that's a good example to show it. Dialogue: 0,0:01:32.13,0:01:37.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I tried to pick four problems\Nthat will frame the issue properly. Dialogue: 0,0:01:37.46,0:01:39.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the first problem, I thought,\Nchip and PIN, right? Dialogue: 0,0:01:39.97,0:01:42.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Banks and legacies\Nbringing down the system from within] Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.69,0:01:44.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Offline solutions do not work online] Dialogue: 0,0:01:44.54,0:01:46.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everyone's got a chip and PIN card, right? Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.56,0:01:48.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So why is that a good example? Dialogue: 0,0:01:48.03,0:01:50.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's the example\Nof how legacy thinking about identity Dialogue: 0,0:01:50.83,0:01:53.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,subverts the security\Nof a well-constructed system. Dialogue: 0,0:01:53.70,0:01:56.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That chip-and-PIN card\Nthat's in your pocket Dialogue: 0,0:01:56.79,0:01:59.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has a little chip on it\Nthat cost millions of pounds to develop, Dialogue: 0,0:01:59.84,0:02:01.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is extremely secure, Dialogue: 0,0:02:01.28,0:02:03.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can put scanning\Nelectron microscopes on it, Dialogue: 0,0:02:03.68,0:02:05.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can try and grind it down,\Nblah blah blah. Dialogue: 0,0:02:05.87,0:02:09.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Those chips have never been broken,\Nwhatever you read in the paper. Dialogue: 0,0:02:09.28,0:02:12.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And for a joke,\Nwe take that supersecure chip, Dialogue: 0,0:02:12.56,0:02:16.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we bond it to a trivially\Ncounterfeitable magnetic stripe. Dialogue: 0,0:02:16.24,0:02:19.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And for very lazy criminals,\Nwe still emboss the card. Dialogue: 0,0:02:19.46,0:02:23.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So if you're a criminal in a hurry\Nand you need to copy someone's card, Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.13,0:02:26.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can just stick a piece of paper on it\Nand rub a pencil over it Dialogue: 0,0:02:26.30,0:02:27.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just to speed things up. Dialogue: 0,0:02:27.50,0:02:30.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And even more amusingly,\Nand on my debit card, too, Dialogue: 0,0:02:30.36,0:02:33.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we print the name and the sort code\Nand everything else on the front. Dialogue: 0,0:02:33.66,0:02:35.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why? Dialogue: 0,0:02:35.75,0:02:39.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is no earthly reason why your name\Nis printed on a chip-and-PIN card. Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.89,0:02:41.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if you think about it, Dialogue: 0,0:02:41.81,0:02:44.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's even more insidious and perverse\Nthan it seems at first. Dialogue: 0,0:02:44.84,0:02:48.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because the only people that benefit\Nfrom having the name on the card Dialogue: 0,0:02:48.37,0:02:49.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are criminals. Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.55,0:02:51.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know what your name is, right? Dialogue: 0,0:02:51.20,0:02:52.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.23,0:02:54.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when you go into a shop\Nand buy something, Dialogue: 0,0:02:54.58,0:02:56.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's a PIN -- he doesn't care\Nwhat the name is. Dialogue: 0,0:02:56.100,0:02:59.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The only place you ever have to write\Nyour name on the back Dialogue: 0,0:02:59.80,0:03:00.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is in America. Dialogue: 0,0:03:00.98,0:03:02.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Whenever I go to America, Dialogue: 0,0:03:02.20,0:03:05.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I have to pay with a magstripe\Non the back of the card, Dialogue: 0,0:03:05.06,0:03:08.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I always sign it "Carlos Tethers" anyway,\Njust as a security mechanism, Dialogue: 0,0:03:08.44,0:03:10.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because if a transaction\Never gets disputed, Dialogue: 0,0:03:10.52,0:03:12.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it comes back\Nand it says "Dave Birch," Dialogue: 0,0:03:12.55,0:03:14.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know it must have been a criminal, Dialogue: 0,0:03:14.30,0:03:16.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I would never\Nsign it "Dave Birch." Dialogue: 0,0:03:16.55,0:03:17.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:03:17.83,0:03:19.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So if you drop your card in the street, Dialogue: 0,0:03:19.90,0:03:22.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it means a criminal\Ncan pick it up and read it. Dialogue: 0,0:03:22.12,0:03:24.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They know the name,\Nfrom the name, they can find the address, Dialogue: 0,0:03:25.01,0:03:27.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then they can go off\Nand buy stuff online. Dialogue: 0,0:03:27.20,0:03:28.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why do we put the name on the card? Dialogue: 0,0:03:28.90,0:03:32.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because we think identity\Nis something to do with names, Dialogue: 0,0:03:32.51,0:03:36.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and because we're rooted\Nin the idea of the identity card, Dialogue: 0,0:03:36.58,0:03:37.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which obsesses us. Dialogue: 0,0:03:37.78,0:03:40.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I know it crashed and burned\Na couple of years ago, Dialogue: 0,0:03:40.39,0:03:44.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but if you're someone in politics\Nor the Home Office or whatever, Dialogue: 0,0:03:44.33,0:03:45.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you think about identity, Dialogue: 0,0:03:45.78,0:03:48.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can only think of identity\Nin terms of cards with names on. Dialogue: 0,0:03:49.02,0:03:51.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's very subversive\Nin a modern world. Dialogue: 0,0:03:52.43,0:03:54.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the second example I thought I'd use Dialogue: 0,0:03:54.70,0:03:56.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is chat rooms. Dialogue: 0,0:03:56.52,0:03:57.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Chatrooms and Children] Dialogue: 0,0:03:57.70,0:03:59.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm very proud of that picture. Dialogue: 0,0:03:59.22,0:04:01.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's my son playing\Nin his band with his friends Dialogue: 0,0:04:01.73,0:04:05.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the first-ever gig,\NI believe you call it, where he got paid. Dialogue: 0,0:04:05.69,0:04:06.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:04:06.76,0:04:08.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I love that picture. Dialogue: 0,0:04:08.51,0:04:11.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'll like the picture of him\Ngetting into medical school a lot better, Dialogue: 0,0:04:11.82,0:04:12.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:04:12.86,0:04:14.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I like that one for the moment. Dialogue: 0,0:04:14.38,0:04:15.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why do I use that picture? Dialogue: 0,0:04:15.66,0:04:20.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because that was very interesting,\Nwatching that experience as an old person. Dialogue: 0,0:04:20.17,0:04:21.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So him and his friends, Dialogue: 0,0:04:21.55,0:04:24.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they get together, they booked a room,\Nlike a church hall, Dialogue: 0,0:04:24.43,0:04:27.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they got all their friends\Nwho had bands, got them together, Dialogue: 0,0:04:27.51,0:04:28.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they do it all on Facebook, Dialogue: 0,0:04:29.02,0:04:32.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then they sell tickets,\Nand the first band on the -- Dialogue: 0,0:04:32.63,0:04:36.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was going to say "menu," that's\Nprobably the wrong word for it, isn't it? Dialogue: 0,0:04:36.25,0:04:38.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The first band on the list of bands Dialogue: 0,0:04:38.18,0:04:42.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that appears at some\Npublic music performance of some kind Dialogue: 0,0:04:42.02,0:04:44.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gets the sales from the first 20 tickets, Dialogue: 0,0:04:44.63,0:04:46.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then the next band gets the next 20, Dialogue: 0,0:04:46.37,0:04:47.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so on. Dialogue: 0,0:04:47.56,0:04:49.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They were at the bottom\Nof the menu, like, fifth, Dialogue: 0,0:04:49.88,0:04:51.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I thought they had no chance. Dialogue: 0,0:04:51.28,0:04:53.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He actually got 20 quid. Fantastic, right? Dialogue: 0,0:04:53.36,0:04:55.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But my point is,\Nthat all worked perfectly, Dialogue: 0,0:04:55.42,0:04:57.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,except on the web. Dialogue: 0,0:04:57.75,0:05:00.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So they're sitting on Facebook, Dialogue: 0,0:05:00.37,0:05:03.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they're sending these messages\Nand arranging things, Dialogue: 0,0:05:03.03,0:05:05.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they don't know who anybody is, right? Dialogue: 0,0:05:05.64,0:05:07.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's the problem we're trying to solve. Dialogue: 0,0:05:07.63,0:05:09.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If only they were using real names, Dialogue: 0,0:05:09.32,0:05:11.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then you wouldn't be worried\Nabout them on the internet. Dialogue: 0,0:05:11.98,0:05:13.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So when he says to me, Dialogue: 0,0:05:13.16,0:05:17.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Oh, I want to go to a chat room\Nto talk about guitars" or something, Dialogue: 0,0:05:17.23,0:05:20.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm like, "Oh, well,\NI don't want you to go into a chat room Dialogue: 0,0:05:20.38,0:05:22.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to talk about guitars, Dialogue: 0,0:05:22.09,0:05:24.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they might\Nnot all be your friends, Dialogue: 0,0:05:24.14,0:05:26.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and some of the people\Nthat are in the chat room Dialogue: 0,0:05:26.43,0:05:29.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,might be, you know, perverts\Nand teachers and vicars --" Dialogue: 0,0:05:29.68,0:05:31.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:05:31.47,0:05:34.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, they generally are,\Nwhen you look in the paper, right? Dialogue: 0,0:05:34.77,0:05:37.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"So I want to know who all the people\Nin the chat room are. Dialogue: 0,0:05:37.77,0:05:39.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, OK, you can go in the chat room, Dialogue: 0,0:05:39.56,0:05:42.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but only if everybody in the chat room\Nis using their real names, Dialogue: 0,0:05:42.68,0:05:45.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they submit full copies\Nof their police report." Dialogue: 0,0:05:45.67,0:05:46.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:05:46.85,0:05:50.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But of course, if anybody\Nin the chat room asked for his real name, Dialogue: 0,0:05:50.07,0:05:52.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'd say, "No. You can't\Ngive them your real name, Dialogue: 0,0:05:52.61,0:05:55.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because what happens\Nif they turn out to be perverts Dialogue: 0,0:05:55.13,0:05:57.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and teachers and whatever?" Dialogue: 0,0:05:57.34,0:05:59.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you have this odd sort of paradox Dialogue: 0,0:05:59.18,0:06:01.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where I'm happy for him\Nto go into this space Dialogue: 0,0:06:01.35,0:06:03.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if I know who everybody else is, Dialogue: 0,0:06:03.22,0:06:05.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I don't want anybody else\Nto know who he is. Dialogue: 0,0:06:05.84,0:06:08.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so you get this sort of\Nlogjam around identity, Dialogue: 0,0:06:08.28,0:06:10.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where you want full disclosure\Nfrom everybody else, Dialogue: 0,0:06:10.71,0:06:11.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but not from yourself. Dialogue: 0,0:06:11.89,0:06:13.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there's no progress, we get stuck. Dialogue: 0,0:06:13.76,0:06:15.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the chat room thing\Ndoesn't work properly, Dialogue: 0,0:06:15.90,0:06:18.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's a very bad way\Nof thinking about identity. Dialogue: 0,0:06:18.94,0:06:22.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Cheerleading ... so, on my RSS feed,\NI saw this thing about -- Dialogue: 0,0:06:22.79,0:06:25.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just said something bad\Nabout my RSS feed, didn't I? Dialogue: 0,0:06:25.38,0:06:27.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I should stop saying it like that. Dialogue: 0,0:06:27.03,0:06:28.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For some random reason I can't imagine, Dialogue: 0,0:06:28.92,0:06:31.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something about cheerleaders\Nturned up in my in-box. Dialogue: 0,0:06:31.38,0:06:34.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I read this story about cheerleaders,\Nand it's a fascinating story. Dialogue: 0,0:06:34.76,0:06:36.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This happened a couple\Nof years ago in the US. Dialogue: 0,0:06:36.94,0:06:40.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There were some cheerleaders\Nin a team at a high school in the US, Dialogue: 0,0:06:40.26,0:06:43.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they said mean things\Nabout their cheerleading coach, Dialogue: 0,0:06:43.07,0:06:46.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as I'm sure kids do about\Nall of their teachers all of the time, Dialogue: 0,0:06:46.87,0:06:49.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and somehow, the cheerleading coach\Nfound out about this. Dialogue: 0,0:06:49.57,0:06:50.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She was very upset. Dialogue: 0,0:06:50.75,0:06:52.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So she went to one of the girls and said, Dialogue: 0,0:06:52.76,0:06:54.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"You have to give me\Nyour Facebook password." Dialogue: 0,0:06:54.90,0:06:56.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I read this all the time, Dialogue: 0,0:06:56.13,0:06:58.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where even at some universities\Nand places of education, Dialogue: 0,0:06:58.82,0:07:01.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kids are forced to hand over\Ntheir Facebook passwords. Dialogue: 0,0:07:01.39,0:07:03.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you have to give them\Nyour Facebook password. Dialogue: 0,0:07:03.66,0:07:06.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the kid -- she was a kid!\NWhat she should have said is, Dialogue: 0,0:07:06.47,0:07:09.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"My lawyer will be calling\Nyou first thing in the morning. Dialogue: 0,0:07:09.22,0:07:12.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's an outrageous imposition\Non my Fourth Amendment right to privacy. Dialogue: 0,0:07:12.62,0:07:14.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You'll be sued\Nfor all the money you've got!" Dialogue: 0,0:07:14.75,0:07:16.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's what she should have said. Dialogue: 0,0:07:16.36,0:07:18.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But she's a kid,\Nso she hands over the password. Dialogue: 0,0:07:18.63,0:07:20.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The teacher can't log in, Dialogue: 0,0:07:20.14,0:07:22.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because the school\Nhas blocked access to Facebook. Dialogue: 0,0:07:22.56,0:07:25.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the teacher can't log into Facebook\Ntill she gets home. Dialogue: 0,0:07:25.36,0:07:26.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the girl tells her friends, Dialogue: 0,0:07:26.82,0:07:29.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Guess what happened?\NThe teacher logged in. She knows." Dialogue: 0,0:07:29.54,0:07:32.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the girls all logged into Facebook\Nand deleted their profiles. Dialogue: 0,0:07:32.70,0:07:35.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So when the teacher logged in,\Nthere was nothing there. Dialogue: 0,0:07:35.31,0:07:39.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My point is: those identities,\Nthey don't think about them the same way. Dialogue: 0,0:07:39.32,0:07:43.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Identity is -- especially when\Nyou're a teenager -- a fluid thing. Dialogue: 0,0:07:43.19,0:07:45.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You have lots of identities,\Nyou experiment with them. Dialogue: 0,0:07:45.75,0:07:49.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if you have an identity you don't\Nlike because it's subverted in some way Dialogue: 0,0:07:49.46,0:07:51.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or it's insecure or it's inappropriate, Dialogue: 0,0:07:51.34,0:07:53.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you just delete it and get another one. Dialogue: 0,0:07:53.23,0:07:56.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The idea that you have an identity\Nthat's given to you by someone, Dialogue: 0,0:07:56.48,0:07:57.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the government or whatever, Dialogue: 0,0:07:57.80,0:08:00.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you have to stick with that identity\Nand use it in all places Dialogue: 0,0:08:00.89,0:08:02.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is absolutely wrong. Dialogue: 0,0:08:02.07,0:08:04.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why would you want to really know\Nwho someone was on Facebook, Dialogue: 0,0:08:05.02,0:08:07.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,unless you wanted to abuse them\Nand harass them in some way? Dialogue: 0,0:08:07.87,0:08:09.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It just doesn't work properly. Dialogue: 0,0:08:09.79,0:08:11.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And my fourth example is, Dialogue: 0,0:08:11.26,0:08:14.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there are some cases\Nwhere you really want to be -- Dialogue: 0,0:08:14.49,0:08:18.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in case you're wondering,\Nthat's me at the G20 protest. Dialogue: 0,0:08:18.06,0:08:19.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wasn't actually at the G20 protest, Dialogue: 0,0:08:19.85,0:08:23.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I had a meeting at a bank\Non the day of the G20 protest. Dialogue: 0,0:08:23.93,0:08:25.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I got an email from the bank, saying, Dialogue: 0,0:08:25.94,0:08:29.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Please don't wear a suit,\Nbecause it'll inflame the protesters." Dialogue: 0,0:08:29.24,0:08:31.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I look pretty good in a suit, frankly, Dialogue: 0,0:08:31.60,0:08:34.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so you can see why it would drive them\Ninto an anticapitalist frenzy. Dialogue: 0,0:08:34.92,0:08:35.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:08:35.95,0:08:39.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I thought, "Well, if I don't\Nwant to inflame the protesters, Dialogue: 0,0:08:39.22,0:08:41.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the obvious thing to do\Nis go dressed as a protester." Dialogue: 0,0:08:41.85,0:08:45.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I went dressed completely in black,\Nyou know, black balaclava ... Dialogue: 0,0:08:45.25,0:08:48.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had black gloves on but took them off\Nto sign the visitors' book. Dialogue: 0,0:08:48.44,0:08:49.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:08:49.47,0:08:52.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm wearing black trousers and boots,\NI'm dressed completely in black. Dialogue: 0,0:08:52.79,0:08:55.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I go into the bank at 10am\Nand go, "Hi, I'm Dave Birch, Dialogue: 0,0:08:55.40,0:08:57.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've got a 3 o'clock with so-and-so." Dialogue: 0,0:08:57.20,0:08:59.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Sure!" And they sign me in.\NThere's my visitor's badge. Dialogue: 0,0:08:59.89,0:09:00.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:09:00.92,0:09:04.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this nonsense about "you've got to have\Nreal names on Facebook" and whatever, Dialogue: 0,0:09:04.79,0:09:06.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that gets you that kind of security. Dialogue: 0,0:09:06.59,0:09:08.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That gets you "security theater," Dialogue: 0,0:09:08.72,0:09:10.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where there's no actual security, Dialogue: 0,0:09:10.69,0:09:13.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but people are sort of playing parts\Nin a play about security, Dialogue: 0,0:09:14.01,0:09:16.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and as long as everybody\Nlearns their lines, Dialogue: 0,0:09:16.14,0:09:17.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everyone's happy. Dialogue: 0,0:09:17.31,0:09:19.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it's not real security, right? Dialogue: 0,0:09:20.04,0:09:23.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Especially because I hate banks\Nmore than the G20 protesters do, Dialogue: 0,0:09:23.10,0:09:24.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I work for them. Dialogue: 0,0:09:24.28,0:09:27.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know that things are actually worse\Nthan these guys think. Dialogue: 0,0:09:27.49,0:09:29.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:09:30.47,0:09:35.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But suppose I worked\Nnext to somebody in a bank Dialogue: 0,0:09:35.38,0:09:36.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who was doing something -- Dialogue: 0,0:09:36.79,0:09:41.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, they were like people who take\Nthe money from banks and don't ... Dialogue: 0,0:09:41.51,0:09:43.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, they take the money ... Dialogue: 0,0:09:43.12,0:09:45.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh -- "traders."\NThat's the word I was thinking of. Dialogue: 0,0:09:45.53,0:09:47.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Suppose I was sitting\Nnext to a rogue trader, Dialogue: 0,0:09:47.66,0:09:49.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I want to report it\Nto the boss of the bank. Dialogue: 0,0:09:49.94,0:09:51.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I log on to do a little whistleblowing. Dialogue: 0,0:09:51.97,0:09:54.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I send a message,\N"This guy's a rogue trader." Dialogue: 0,0:09:54.15,0:09:55.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That message is meaningless Dialogue: 0,0:09:55.51,0:09:58.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you don't know\Nthat I'm a trader at the bank. Dialogue: 0,0:09:58.10,0:10:00.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If that message just comes from anybody, Dialogue: 0,0:10:00.06,0:10:02.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it has zero information value. Dialogue: 0,0:10:02.72,0:10:04.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's no point in sending that message. Dialogue: 0,0:10:04.77,0:10:06.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You have to know that I'm ... Dialogue: 0,0:10:06.86,0:10:09.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But if I have to prove who I am, Dialogue: 0,0:10:09.31,0:10:11.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'll never send that message. Dialogue: 0,0:10:11.08,0:10:14.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's just like the nurse in the hospital\Nreporting the drunk surgeon. Dialogue: 0,0:10:14.69,0:10:17.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That message will only happen\Nif I'm anonymous. Dialogue: 0,0:10:17.79,0:10:22.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the system has to have ways\Nof providing anonymity in it, Dialogue: 0,0:10:22.24,0:10:24.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,otherwise, we don't get\Nwhere we want to get to. Dialogue: 0,0:10:24.54,0:10:26.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, four issues. Dialogue: 0,0:10:26.65,0:10:28.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So what are we going to do about it? Dialogue: 0,0:10:28.99,0:10:32.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, what we tend to do about it Dialogue: 0,0:10:32.11,0:10:34.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is we think about Orwell space. Dialogue: 0,0:10:34.70,0:10:38.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we try to make electronic versions\Nof the identity card Dialogue: 0,0:10:38.57,0:10:40.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we got rid of in 1953. Dialogue: 0,0:10:40.16,0:10:42.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we think if we had a card -- Dialogue: 0,0:10:42.72,0:10:44.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,call it a Facebook login -- Dialogue: 0,0:10:44.16,0:10:45.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which proves who you are, Dialogue: 0,0:10:45.38,0:10:47.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I make you carry it all the time, Dialogue: 0,0:10:47.18,0:10:48.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that solves the problem. Dialogue: 0,0:10:48.36,0:10:51.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And of course, for all those\Nreasons I've just outlined, it doesn't, Dialogue: 0,0:10:51.62,0:10:53.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it might make some problems worse. Dialogue: 0,0:10:53.47,0:10:56.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The more times you're forced\Nto use your real identity, Dialogue: 0,0:10:56.09,0:10:57.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,certainly in transactional terms, Dialogue: 0,0:10:57.70,0:11:00.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the more likely that identity\Nis to get stolen and subverted. Dialogue: 0,0:11:00.62,0:11:02.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The goal is to stop people\Nfrom using identity Dialogue: 0,0:11:02.79,0:11:04.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in transactions which don't need identity, Dialogue: 0,0:11:04.84,0:11:07.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is actually almost all transactions. Dialogue: 0,0:11:07.12,0:11:11.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Almost all of the transactions you do\Nare not "Who are you?" Dialogue: 0,0:11:11.20,0:11:13.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're "Are you allowed\Nto drive the car?" Dialogue: 0,0:11:13.29,0:11:15.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Are you allowed in the building?"\N"Are you over 18?" Dialogue: 0,0:11:15.83,0:11:17.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,etcetera, etcetera. Dialogue: 0,0:11:17.81,0:11:19.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So my suggestion -- I, like James, Dialogue: 0,0:11:19.52,0:11:22.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,think that there should be\Na resurgence of interest in R and D. Dialogue: 0,0:11:22.56,0:11:24.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think this is a solvable problem. Dialogue: 0,0:11:24.26,0:11:25.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's something we can do about. Dialogue: 0,0:11:25.77,0:11:28.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Naturally, in these circumstances,\NI turn to Doctor Who. Dialogue: 0,0:11:28.82,0:11:29.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because in this -- Dialogue: 0,0:11:30.00,0:11:31.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:11:31.02,0:11:32.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as in so many other walks of life, Dialogue: 0,0:11:32.71,0:11:35.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Doctor Who has already\Nshown us the answer. Dialogue: 0,0:11:35.44,0:11:38.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I should say,\Nfor some of our foreign visitors: Dialogue: 0,0:11:38.63,0:11:42.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Doctor Who is the greatest\Nliving scientist in England -- Dialogue: 0,0:11:42.41,0:11:44.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:11:44.10,0:11:46.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a beacon of truth\Nand enlightenment to all of us. Dialogue: 0,0:11:46.93,0:11:49.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this is Doctor Who\Nwith his "psychic paper." Dialogue: 0,0:11:49.97,0:11:52.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Come on, you guys must have seen\NDoctor Who's "psychic paper." Dialogue: 0,0:11:52.94,0:11:54.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're not nerds if you say yes. Dialogue: 0,0:11:54.91,0:11:57.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Who's seen Doctor Who's psychic paper? Dialogue: 0,0:11:57.22,0:12:00.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh right, you were in the library\Nthe whole time studying, I guess. Dialogue: 0,0:12:00.45,0:12:02.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is that what you're going to tell us? Dialogue: 0,0:12:02.26,0:12:03.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Doctor Who's psychic paper is: Dialogue: 0,0:12:03.73,0:12:05.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when you hold up the psychic paper, Dialogue: 0,0:12:05.42,0:12:06.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the person, in their brain, Dialogue: 0,0:12:06.79,0:12:08.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sees the thing that they need to see. Dialogue: 0,0:12:08.94,0:12:11.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I want to show you a British passport, Dialogue: 0,0:12:11.36,0:12:12.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I hold up the psychic paper, Dialogue: 0,0:12:12.74,0:12:14.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you see a British passport. Dialogue: 0,0:12:14.08,0:12:15.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to get into a party, Dialogue: 0,0:12:15.73,0:12:17.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I hold up the psychic paper, Dialogue: 0,0:12:17.14,0:12:18.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I show you a party invitation. Dialogue: 0,0:12:18.59,0:12:20.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You see what you want to see. Dialogue: 0,0:12:20.55,0:12:23.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So what I'm saying is, we need\Nto make an electronic version of that, Dialogue: 0,0:12:23.86,0:12:26.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but with one tiny, tiny change, Dialogue: 0,0:12:26.09,0:12:28.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is that it'll only show you\Nthe British passport Dialogue: 0,0:12:28.69,0:12:29.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if I've actually got one. Dialogue: 0,0:12:29.91,0:12:32.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It'll only show you the party invitation\Nif I actually have one. Dialogue: 0,0:12:32.94,0:12:35.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It will only show you that I'm over 18\Nif I actually am over 18. Dialogue: 0,0:12:36.00,0:12:37.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But nothing else. Dialogue: 0,0:12:37.100,0:12:42.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you're the bouncer at the pub,\Nyou need to know that I'm over 18. Dialogue: 0,0:12:42.83,0:12:44.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Instead of showing you my driving license, Dialogue: 0,0:12:44.87,0:12:46.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which shows you I know how to drive, Dialogue: 0,0:12:46.62,0:12:49.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what my name is, my address,\Nall these kind of things, Dialogue: 0,0:12:49.42,0:12:50.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I show you my psychic paper, Dialogue: 0,0:12:50.93,0:12:53.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and all it tells you is,\Nam I over 18 or not. Dialogue: 0,0:12:54.05,0:12:55.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Right. Dialogue: 0,0:12:55.42,0:12:56.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is that just a pipe dream? Dialogue: 0,0:12:56.92,0:12:59.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Of course not, otherwise\NI wouldn't be here talking. Dialogue: 0,0:12:59.52,0:13:01.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, in order to build that\Nand make it work, Dialogue: 0,0:13:01.60,0:13:04.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm only going to name these things,\NI'll not go into them: Dialogue: 0,0:13:04.39,0:13:05.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we need a plan, Dialogue: 0,0:13:05.85,0:13:08.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is, we're going to build\Nthis as an infrastructure Dialogue: 0,0:13:08.51,0:13:10.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for everybody to use\Nto solve all of these problems. Dialogue: 0,0:13:10.98,0:13:12.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're going to make a utility. Dialogue: 0,0:13:12.64,0:13:15.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The utility has to be universal,\Nyou can use it everywhere. Dialogue: 0,0:13:15.44,0:13:18.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm just giving you little flashes\Nof the technology as we go along. Dialogue: 0,0:13:18.67,0:13:19.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's a Japanese ATM, Dialogue: 0,0:13:19.86,0:13:22.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the fingerprint template\Nis stored inside the mobile phone. Dialogue: 0,0:13:22.66,0:13:24.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So when you want to draw money out, Dialogue: 0,0:13:24.39,0:13:26.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you put the phone on the ATM\Nand touch your finger, Dialogue: 0,0:13:26.82,0:13:28.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your fingerprint\Ngoes through to the phone, Dialogue: 0,0:13:28.85,0:13:30.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the phone says, "Yes, that's whoever," Dialogue: 0,0:13:30.69,0:13:32.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the ATM then gives you some money. Dialogue: 0,0:13:32.53,0:13:35.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It has to be a utility\Nthat you can use everywhere. Dialogue: 0,0:13:35.57,0:13:37.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It has to be absolutely convenient. Dialogue: 0,0:13:37.43,0:13:40.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's me going into the pub. Dialogue: 0,0:13:40.60,0:13:43.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All the device on the door\Nof the pub is allowed is: Dialogue: 0,0:13:43.51,0:13:47.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is this person over 18\Nand not barred from the pub? Dialogue: 0,0:13:47.18,0:13:50.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so the idea is,\Nyou touch your ID card to the door, Dialogue: 0,0:13:50.36,0:13:52.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and if I'm allowed in,\Nit shows my picture, Dialogue: 0,0:13:52.40,0:13:53.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if I'm not, it shows a red cross. Dialogue: 0,0:13:53.100,0:13:56.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It doesn't disclose any other information. Dialogue: 0,0:13:56.02,0:13:57.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It has to have no special gadgets. Dialogue: 0,0:13:57.67,0:14:00.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That can only mean one thing,\Nfollowing on from Ross's statement, Dialogue: 0,0:14:00.75,0:14:03.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which I agree with completely:\Nif it means no special gadgets, Dialogue: 0,0:14:03.69,0:14:05.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it has to run on a mobile phone. Dialogue: 0,0:14:05.24,0:14:08.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's the only choice we have,\Nto make it work on mobile phones. Dialogue: 0,0:14:08.31,0:14:10.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are 6.6 billion\Nmobile phone subscriptions. Dialogue: 0,0:14:10.64,0:14:14.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My favorite statistic of all time:\Nonly 4 billion toothbrushes in the world. Dialogue: 0,0:14:14.26,0:14:16.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That means something. I don't know what. Dialogue: 0,0:14:16.18,0:14:17.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:14:17.28,0:14:19.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I rely on our futurologists to tell me. Dialogue: 0,0:14:19.50,0:14:21.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It has to be a utility\Nwhich is extensible. Dialogue: 0,0:14:21.60,0:14:24.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it has to be something\Nthat anybody could build on. Dialogue: 0,0:14:24.16,0:14:26.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anybody should be able\Nto use this infrastructure; Dialogue: 0,0:14:26.53,0:14:28.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you don't need permissions,\Nlicenses, whatever. Dialogue: 0,0:14:28.81,0:14:32.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anyone should be able\Nto write some code to do this. Dialogue: 0,0:14:33.43,0:14:36.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, you know what symmetry is,\Nso you don't need a picture of it. Dialogue: 0,0:14:36.68,0:14:38.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is how we're going to do it. Dialogue: 0,0:14:38.29,0:14:40.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're going to do it using phones\Nand mobile proximity. Dialogue: 0,0:14:40.90,0:14:42.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm going to suggest to you Dialogue: 0,0:14:42.38,0:14:45.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the technology to implement Doctor Who's\Npsychic paper is already here, Dialogue: 0,0:14:45.88,0:14:48.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and if any of you have got\None of the new Barclay's debit cards Dialogue: 0,0:14:48.87,0:14:50.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the contactless interface on it, Dialogue: 0,0:14:50.66,0:14:52.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you've already got that technology. Dialogue: 0,0:14:52.89,0:14:55.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Have you ever been up to the big city\Nand used an Oyster card? Dialogue: 0,0:14:55.85,0:14:57.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Does that ring a bell? Dialogue: 0,0:14:57.03,0:14:58.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The technology already exists. Dialogue: 0,0:14:58.49,0:15:00.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The first phones that have\Nthe technology built in -- Dialogue: 0,0:15:00.100,0:15:03.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Google Nexus, the S II,\Nthe [Samsung Wave 578] -- Dialogue: 0,0:15:03.57,0:15:07.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the first phones that have the technology\Nbuilt into them are already in the shops. Dialogue: 0,0:15:07.53,0:15:10.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the idea that the gasman\Ncan turn up at my mum's door, Dialogue: 0,0:15:10.44,0:15:12.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he can show my mum his phone, Dialogue: 0,0:15:12.40,0:15:14.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and she can tap it with her phone, Dialogue: 0,0:15:14.13,0:15:17.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it'll come up with green\Nif he really is from British Gas Dialogue: 0,0:15:17.03,0:15:18.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and allowed in, Dialogue: 0,0:15:18.21,0:15:20.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and will come up with red\Nif he isn't, end of story. Dialogue: 0,0:15:20.67,0:15:22.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have the technology to do that. Dialogue: 0,0:15:22.32,0:15:23.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what's more, Dialogue: 0,0:15:23.50,0:15:26.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,although some of those things\Nsound a bit counterintuitive, Dialogue: 0,0:15:26.29,0:15:28.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like proving I'm over 18\Nwithout proving who I am, Dialogue: 0,0:15:28.66,0:15:30.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the cryptography to do that\Nnot only exists, Dialogue: 0,0:15:30.74,0:15:32.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's extremely well-known\Nand well-understood. Dialogue: 0,0:15:32.91,0:15:35.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Digital signatures, the blinding\Nof public key certificates -- Dialogue: 0,0:15:35.86,0:15:38.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these technologies\Nhave been around for a while, Dialogue: 0,0:15:38.14,0:15:40.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we've just had no way\Nof packaging them up. Dialogue: 0,0:15:40.18,0:15:41.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the technology already exists. Dialogue: 0,0:15:41.78,0:15:45.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We know it works. Dialogue: 0,0:15:45.11,0:15:47.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are a few examples\Nof the technology being used Dialogue: 0,0:15:47.62,0:15:48.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in experimental places. Dialogue: 0,0:15:48.87,0:15:50.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's London Fashion Week, Dialogue: 0,0:15:50.20,0:15:52.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where we built a system with O2. Dialogue: 0,0:15:52.08,0:15:54.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's for the Wireless\NFestival in Hyde Park. Dialogue: 0,0:15:54.72,0:15:57.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can see the person's\Nwalking in with their VIP band, Dialogue: 0,0:15:57.41,0:16:00.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's being checked by the Nokia phone\Nthat's reading the band. Dialogue: 0,0:16:00.34,0:16:03.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm only putting those up to show you\Nthese things are prosaic, Dialogue: 0,0:16:03.35,0:16:05.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this stuff works in these environments. Dialogue: 0,0:16:05.23,0:16:06.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They don't need to be special. Dialogue: 0,0:16:06.69,0:16:12.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So finally, I know that you can do this, Dialogue: 0,0:16:12.19,0:16:16.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because if you saw\Nthe Easter special of Doctor Who, Dialogue: 0,0:16:16.81,0:16:20.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where he went to Mars in a bus -- Dialogue: 0,0:16:20.38,0:16:22.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I should say, again,\Nfor our foreign students: Dialogue: 0,0:16:22.58,0:16:24.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that doesn't happen in every episode. Dialogue: 0,0:16:24.37,0:16:25.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This was a very special case. Dialogue: 0,0:16:25.81,0:16:28.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So in the episode where he goes\Nto Mars in a London bus -- Dialogue: 0,0:16:28.75,0:16:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can't show you the clip, Dialogue: 0,0:16:30.03,0:16:33.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,due to the outrageous restrictions\Nof Queen Anne-style copyright Dialogue: 0,0:16:33.13,0:16:34.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by the BBC -- Dialogue: 0,0:16:34.44,0:16:37.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but in the episode where he goes\Nto Mars in a London bus, Dialogue: 0,0:16:37.38,0:16:41.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Doctor Who is clearly shown\Ngetting onto the bus Dialogue: 0,0:16:41.44,0:16:42.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the Oyster card reader Dialogue: 0,0:16:42.91,0:16:44.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,using his psychic paper. Dialogue: 0,0:16:44.50,0:16:47.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Which proves that psychic paper\Nhas an NFC interface. Dialogue: 0,0:16:47.97,0:16:49.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you very much. Dialogue: 0,0:16:49.17,0:16:50.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Applause)