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This week, the National Coordinator 
for Counterterrorism raised alarm.

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"The corona crisis increases distrust in 
government, science, the press.

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It is exacerbated by conspiracy 
theories and misinformation,

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says the National Coordinator 
for Counterterrorism and Safety."

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Yes, distrust in the government. Not like:
'Let's see about that, your excellency!'.

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No, nowadays people go to The Hague
to engage in dialogue like this:

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"Rutte piss off!"

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"Do you always betray everybody?
Do you always betray the people?"

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"Is it OK to betray the people?"

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What is this MP supposed to say now?

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'Is it normal that I betray the people? 
Hmm, e-mail me and I'll take a look.'

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Speaker of the House Arib also notices 
the situation getting worse

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"At several meetings, we could not leave
through the main exit as it was unsafe,

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and had to be escorted via other exits.

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That explains why I saw Wouter Koolmees
crawling out of a store's fitting room.

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Members of Parliament can't use the main 
entrance because of these protesters.

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Ministers that do use this entrance, like 
Hugo de Jonge, are greeted like this:

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"You should listen to the people more." 
"Otherwise, on behalf of the people,

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we will show you a different way. 
I'm serious."

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This is a veiled threat. Advice for Hugo 
de Jonge, you should tell this man:

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'I'll listen to you Nov 6th.' That day he 
will stand trial for threatening a mayor.

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A busy man.

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Sometimes the threats are more overt,
like with CDA MP Pieter Omtzigt:

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"Sir hold on!"

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"I'll beat you to death retard! 
Fucking retard!"

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The title of this video on YouTube isn't 
'death threat for MP' but

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'Critical questions for Pieter Omtzigt'.

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Well done for keeping him sharp.

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This aggression does not only target 
politicians, but also the media.

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"Here, mainstream media. You're 
betraying the people."

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Oh fuck off! Here, on behalf of the main-
stream media: mainstream media till I die!

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Sorry, I'll be objective.

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Nowadays NOS reporters need security 
at events and that's very sad.

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Of course, Ron Fresen makes some extreme
claims and I don't agree with his views

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but he should be allowed to do his job.

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This week NOS even removed their logo from
satellite vehicles because of the threats.

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Where does this anger suddenly come from?

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The Nat. Coordinator for Counterterrorism 
says: conspiracies and corona.

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I'm thinking: corona, conspiracies 
both start with "co".

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Coincidence? I think not.

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If you listen to the clamouring in The 
Hague you hear weird and specific things:

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"Dirty pedophiles!"

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"Traitor! Child rapist!"

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"Satanists. Deep state."

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Yeah, Satanists, pedophiles. On Friday,
someone wrote at the town hall in Almelo:

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'We are being ruled by satanic pedophiles'

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That's Almelo now. Normally a quiet town,
now we are ruled by satanic pedophiles.

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What is this? Is "pedophile" the new 
"asshole" or something?

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No, it is a conspiracy theory, stating the
elite is a satanic network of pedophiles.

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The best known version of this story is Pizzagate, which had a lot of Americans believing children were being kept in a basement of a pizza joint in Washington D.C.

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"The danger of conspiracy theories became apparent in 2016,
when an armed man got into a pizza place in Washington DC."

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He wanted to see the basement because he was convinced that child rapists, linked to Hillary Clinton, had their headquarters there."

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It turned out the pizza place didn't even have a basement.

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You're thinking: 'Crazy Americans, what a
weird country, how did they manage this?'

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But just like iPhones and obesity, 
the conspiracies are also coming our way.

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"My guest today: Sven Hulleman."

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"Could it be that world leaders, prominent 
people, are secretly engaged in pedophilia?"

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"Structural child abuse."

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"And also ritually? Do they have a secret from the antiquity? The Moloch, a deity."

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"Yeah I know."

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And most of you are now thinking - hopefully -

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what the fuck is this? I also did, until I started clicking around on YouTube. A lot of people on there believe that our reality is false.

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"This is not only about our health anymore. This is about the controlled destruction of our economy."

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"Precisely. It's all part of the agenda which we discussed earlier."

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"Just to be clear, with such a vaccine they can implant a chip inside of you?"

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"Yes it's a pinprick so that is very easy."

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"The stories that come to light via different ways is that we are being ruled by a thoroughly evil satanic blood drinking elite."

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Okay... You got any hobbies?

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'Rapping.'

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On YouTube there is a whole circuit of people who have been slowly sucked into their own parallel reality.

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That often starts with some form of media criticism:

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"A few years ago I started to see that things didn't seem right.

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Trump's election was ridiculed and he was demonised. But on YouTube, so not in the mainstream media,

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I saw that it was actually a decent 
man with good viewpoints."

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Of course, YouTube. The mainstream media 
always claims dogs can't say hello

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but after browsing YouTube for 
an hour I found this:

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You see? Dogs can talk, Trump is a fine 
man, that's the power of YouTube.

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And that's what you don't hear in regular 
media, because they are being controlled:

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"It bothers me that politicians and media are 
constantly spoonfeeding people an imposed truth

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an imposed truth that does not correspond to reality."

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"It's like how news items are being put in a particular order. Those are very small mindfucks to influence the public."

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Okay so they claim everything you see on television and read in the papers is fake news.

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Everybody gets orders from higher up to dumb you down.

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And once you believe that you get sucked into a web of theories.

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From 'Trump is great' you go to '9/11 was fake'. And who do you meet there? Sjors van Houts.

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"The word 'explosie' doesn't appear in the 9/11 report once, and that is strange."

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Yeah... The report is in English, Sjors.

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You have to look for 'explosion'.

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We can't all be the Smartest Human, doesn't matter (host won a TV quiz "The Smartest Human").

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9/11 by the way is a very nice conspiracy to start with, 
according to Instagrammer tisjeboyjay:

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"The first experience where I was like 'wow' was with 9/11, from that point on I thought 'no, huh?'"

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"And once you start, you know how it goes."
- "Rabbit hole after rabbit hole."

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From 9/11 it's only a very small step to conspiracies about MH17 and MH370:

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"The people on board didn't die, they are still out somewhere."

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"The MH370 plane was put down on the crash site of MH17."

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What?! Okay. doesn't matter.

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And from MH17 it's onto 'Bill Gates is the devil'. This is conspiracy guru Janet Ossebaard, who made documentaries on Bill Gates:

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"Keep an eye out for her because part five of her docu is coming."

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"Five will be the killer for Bill Gates. Will be very nice."
"Kill Bill."
- "Kill Bill."

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And from Bill Gates it's onto corona because Bill wants to put a chip in the vaccine and the whole virus is a hoax.

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All these people know each other too. They're in each other's podcasts, zoom calls and meetings like the woman just now:

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she also appears with Lange Frans:

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"Let's begin at our beginning. We've known each other from... I'm thinking if it's 4 or 5 years ago, just about."
- "Four."

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Yeah they've known each other for four years, have a guess from where.

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No it's not Baas B's mom. From what?

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"We went to do research there about crop circles that magically appeared every year in the south of England."

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They met on a crop circle holiday. Of course!

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And I've been saying conspiracy thinkers, but even 
that is a conspiracy according to conspiracists:

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"The words conspiracy thinker and conspiracy theory were developed by the CIA in the 1960s."

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"And they injected the word conspiracy thinker into the vocabulary of the people, as a form of mind control."

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The dog is thinking 'I'm still with her for the sex because otherwise...'

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And this sounds like a crazy bunch of people with fast internet and too much time on their hands,

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but this is starting to get really big.

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These videos are getting hundreds of thousands of views on Facebook and YouTube.

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Why is this so popular? Firstly people love sensation, that's why tabloids sell so well, as we love weird secret information.

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What to think of 'Linda de Mol uses interns as stools'.

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You don't know if it's true and that's why it's so fun!

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But there's something more and that has to do with the technology behind platforms like YouTube and Facebook.

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They are only concerned with selling ads to you and keeping your attention for as long as possible.

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This is the foundation for their whole system.

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If you're done watching a video or reading a post, they want you to watch more.

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This is why they suggest content that they know you'll find interesting.

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If I never click on clips about goats, but do click on clips about horses, more horse clips will appear.

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Great for me, I get horse clips, and great for YouTube, as I'll watch for longer and they sell more ads. That's the algorithm.

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But it turns out that one of the things humans like to click the most, is insane stories on the edge of what they can still believe in.

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If you're wondering if the virus is real, you'll click on a clip called 'the virus is fake'. Once you're done, a clip called 'Bill Gates invented the virus' is ready.

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And that's what you'll click on, rather than the boring clip 'We don't know much about the virus yet but it's unfortunately there',

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a three-hour-long explanation by a timid doctoral candidate with an irritating accent. You don't do that.

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People click on the weirdest clips more readily, but the algorithm sees they also get the best response, which will make it push them up even higher.

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This how it inadvertently digs a tunnel for you in which you'll get stuck deeper and deeper.

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I did a little test. I removed all my cookies, installed a new browser and opened a new YouTube account.

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I'll start with a neutral search term like 'PCR test reliable'. This is the test to detect a virus.

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My top hit is 'Invalidity of PCR test explained in five minutes'. I'll click on it.

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In my suggested videos, 'Does SARS COV-2 exist? Where is the evidence?' appears. Of course, I click on this.

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Meanwhile in the bottom right I see 'Lange Frans and Adèle van der Plas about pedos within the judiciary'. What? You got me hooked!

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I'm watching, and then in the suggested videos 'Lange Frans en Sjors van Houts about 9/11' appears.

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Wow. Within three clicks I went from corona tests to conspiracy theories about the attacks on the Twin Towers, via a video about pedophile networks.

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Have a look at the front page of my brand new account. Robert Jensen - 'Pull through!' Thanks man, you too.

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Again the PCR test guy, a clip against the corona measures, Lange Frans with the dude who said MH17 didn't crash,

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And René van der Gijp enjoys the TV Canteen. This is sick shit!

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It's just bizarre. This was 10 minutes. Just imagine your online experience after years of clicking through.

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You'll be totally convinced by all these opinions. This isn't new - if you read de Telegraaf for years (sensationalist newspaper),

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you'll end up hating Femke Halsema (left-wing politician).

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Same with NRC (liberal newspaper). If you only read that you'll end up hating Youp van 't Hek (main columnist).

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At least in this case, you know you're reading one newspaper and don't know everything.

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But in this 'trap of tales', everyone thinks they're deciding for themselves what content they are viewing.

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People think they are doing 'research', when they're actually clicking on YouTube clips provided by an algorithm.

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People are caught in a narrower tunnel than ever, but feel like they're orientating themselves very broadly.

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The longer people are caught in this trap, the more they will be open to more radical ideas.

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You see this happening to Lange Frans when he talks to someone who is a bit further into the trap:

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"If you're at an Albert Heijn or Jumbo, there is no food. It's only manipulated crap, designed so you will lose touch with the earth.

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If you lose this connection, if you are an uprooted person it will be easy to control you."

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- "That's really bad, I buy 90% of my food at the supermarket."

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Poor Frans!

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But if Lange Frans buys all of his food at the supermarket, he should be uprooted and controlled by now, right?

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But he's onto everything! Then that's not true you would say. Frans doesn't care though, he'll eat up anything:

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"Does our King, the sovereign, have a citizen service number? Are his children registered?"
- "That's so interesting"

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Did he have a boarding pass when he went on holiday to Greece? 
- 'Very interesting.'

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Was he sitting at the window?
- 'I'm going crazy!'

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The whole concept of "facts" is disappearing.

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Just listen to this woman who had a fallout with her family for spreading misinformation on Facebook.

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"So you have spread misinformation on Facebook?"
"Yes, I don't believe in facts. What is a fact?"

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This is the 12th season of "Zondag met Lubach" and I guess I'll have to start over completely.

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This is the issue with people who live in an alternate reality. In past times, we did share a reality.

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Someone would say, 'inheritance taxes should be raised to 80%!' And another would say, 'they should be abolished'.

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You'd think 'this person is crazy!' But now it's like 'Inheritance taxes? All people in power are child abusers.'

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How can you have a discussion?

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"Obama orders late-night hot dogs and cheese pizzas. These are all terms that are used for small children."

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If that is right, I have received the wrong order so many times! This isn't the US, it's just the centre of Amsterdam.

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"The Dutch government and governments abroad...they are all pedophile networks."

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"It's a part of the lifestyle of the elite to abuse children."
"Why do you think that?"

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"That's what you hear in the news channels."

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That's right: the news channels that are suggested to you - not by a human but by an algorithm designed to capture your attention.

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Not to inform you, but to make more money.

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This is only possible by offering more and more extreme shit to you.

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"What is 'adrenochome'?"
"That's the blood they're taking from children."

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"That babies' blood is drunk by the elites to stay young."

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I'm almost at the point where I say that I pity these folks.

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These folks have walked right into the algorithm of these big platforms.

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They're caught in the trap meant be used to sell ads. I would almost say: Lange Fransie, come back from your tale holiday!

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It's not too late, we can drink a beer!
- 'Very interesting!'

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The next question is: where is it heading? This fun chatter in the cloud of like-minded people is causing the clamouring crowd at the Museum Square

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to people scribbling those texts, to people intimidating politicians in the Hague.

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These are all characters from the same trap of tales, they all watch those vlogs.

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Remember Laura and Duncan from before, who were a bit critical of how Trump was portrayed? Right now they're here:

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"They're really crapping their pants. This week I was at the Plein and Rutte walked past, that was filmed,

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and the moment he walked past, you could see him coming with two police officers by his side,

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and everybody: 'Murderer! Liar! Pedophile!' That was wonderful! He just quickly ran inside.

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Until a year ago Rutte cycled to work, now that doesn't happen anymore."

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These people are happy and proud that Rutte can't cycle to work anymore because he's being threatened physically.

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And also Lange Frans has gone downhill, here he is discussing with Janet Ossebaard about what on earth to do with Mark Rutte:

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"What should we do? Shoot the guy? I'm not going to do it. I want to keep my karma clean."

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- "And I can shoot well, it's not that I would miss you know?"
"I wouldn't be expensive in that!"

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- "It's not that I wouldn't be able to, it's just that my head says I like my night's rest."

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And once again, this is not a small pocket of lunatics! On YouTube alone this podcast has been viewed over half a million times!

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One in six Dutch people now think that traditional media only publish news if the government has approved the content.

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I wanted to tell that last week but I wasn't allowed yet.

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And 14 percent even thinks that the pharmaceutical industry deliberately spreads diseases to sell more drugs.

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And you can think: 'shit, that's a lot of people' but you can also think 'heyyy, that's a lot of voters':

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"I'm looking forward to this very much, because today we welcome Wybren van Haga."

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'Hello MP!'
- 'Hello conspiracy rapper!'

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Wybren van Haga, former VVD MP, now of Forum voor Democratie (FvD)

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heard of the speculations by Lange Frans about shooting Rutte and thought: 'I have to be there!'

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Van Haga is fully onboard the conspiracy train. You hear it when he talks about the PCR test, with can detect a virus.

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Many people find it too sensitive for testing on a large scale, but Van Haga believes it is completely useless.

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Moreover, he retweeted someone who claims that not only the PCR test, but also HIV and corona are a hoax.

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Forum voor Democratie gladly draws from the trap of tales, here you see Van Haga at the FvD news

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with tisjeboyjay, who called 9/11 a hoax not too long ago.

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Forum boss Thierry Baudet also keeps the door open to the conspiracy world and happily appeases the people, through a broken megaphone:

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"I find it incredibly brave that there are so many people, and ever more people

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who dare to utter a different voice."

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"To prevent the Spoedwet (urgency law)...

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This has to be a conspiracy that this happens!"

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This was at a demonstration against the corona urgency law, where Baudet was cracking conspiracy jokes with the protesters.

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And Forum's love for the conspiracy world is mutual:

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"Listen to Wybren van Haga, also someone that explains it to you super well and carefully."

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"Haga, that's one of the only ones still fighting for our freedom."

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"I'm not a fan of politics, not at all, but Van Haga?

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Eh, a real OG!

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All follow Van Haga, because this man is spitting facts!"

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So we shouldn't expect a solution from Forum for the trap of tales.

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In fact, they've decided 'these are our voters'.

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And great that the National Coordinator for Counterterrorism and Khadija Arib are ringing the bell about politicians' safety

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but that won't fix it either. The only ones that can really do something about this are the social media themselves.

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They made those platforms - with the best intentions: making money - and now part of the public lives in a parellel universe.

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And what I'm saying now is not new, criticism of those algorithms has been increasing lately, and those platforms notice it too

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and they don't want to lose customer, which is why they've started to censor.

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YouTube and Facebook are trying to delete a few very specific conspiracy theories,

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such as this week with a video by Lange Frans, in which he raps about conspiracy theories

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which wasn't necessary if you asked me, the track just had a great flow.

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The problem with censorship is: how does a tech company determine if something is a conspiracy?

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Are they going to check everything? And what if they censor too much?

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Covid nonsense is now getting deleted but will you able to pose critical questions on the testing policy?

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Censorship is not the solution to the real problem. I'm taking you to the supermarket.

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There's cola, and sweets, and other unhealthy stuff.

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But there's also broccoli and whole grain bread.

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Everyone buys something different but we all see the same store.

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On Facebook and YouTube it's different, you come in and look at a can of Red Bull and bam the entire aisle becomes energy drinks!

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You look the other way and where I see broccoli you see crisps, because those go well together with Red Bull.

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Of course, if you search well you can still find veggies, but on all crisps there's a sticker saying veggies are super dangerous

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You get fatter, but on the can it says that that is because there is still a pedophilic courgette present in the store!

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And the worst thing is that your neighbour experiences a completely different supermarket than you, without you noticing!

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Have you ever accidentally logged in to your girlfriend's Netflix account?

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Making you think: 'I never knew there were so many Christmas movies featuring puppies...'

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And that's how everyone has their own reality thanks to Facebook and YouTube.

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These companies employ the world's best technicians, they have created this monster - again, with the best financial intentions -

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and now they should tame it. The people in the Hague who threaten politicians are there because of the algorithm.

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If based on these conspiracies there were to erupt violence somewhere, or even worse, civil war,

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that is a direct consequence of the revenue model of these internet companies.

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They have to fix the trap because only they can make sure we can live in one reality again.

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I say: fix the trap.

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This was Zondag met Lubach, thanks for watching. Have a fun week and until next Sunday!

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Hi click here.

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Everyone knows how this works. I'd rather just get to the point.

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Everyone knows how this works, click somewhere.

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You want anything from the kitchen by the way?