0:00:04.490,0:00:06.670 >> Clarissa: We are all like,[br]different people. 0:00:06.670,0:00:08.170 We can't be the same. 0:00:08.170,0:00:09.459 We are all imperfect. 0:00:09.459,0:00:13.620 >> Antonio: The concept of trying[br]to use technology 0:00:13.620,0:00:17.810 to create a utopian society[br]is interesting, to say the least. 0:00:17.810,0:00:21.060 >> Stuart: One thing I am[br]always being asked about, 0:00:21.060,0:00:23.340 the Olympics and[br]the Paralympics. 0:00:23.340,0:00:27.800 I do believe in 10, 20 years[br]a Paralympian will be faster 0:00:27.800,0:00:30.369 than a human, than a person[br]without a disability. 0:00:30.369,0:00:33.580 >> Dewald: Why would you change[br]your natural ability? 0:00:35.720,0:00:45.780 [music] 0:00:55.760,0:00:57.440 >> Sheryl: My name is[br]Sheryl Burgstahler. 0:00:57.449,0:01:02.559 I direct Accessible Technology Services[br]at the University of Washington. 0:01:02.559,0:01:05.070 Science and technology has[br]progressed to a point 0:01:05.070,0:01:08.900 where we might be able to[br]eliminate certain disabilities. 0:01:08.900,0:01:12.130 But just because we can,[br]should we? 0:01:12.130,0:01:13.920 We talked to some students[br]with disabilities 0:01:13.920,0:01:16.759 and we asked them[br]to answer that question. 0:01:17.900,0:01:24.659 >> Nolan: I like the idea of kind of[br]using technology to help people out, 0:01:24.659,0:01:30.729 to advance the human race, 0:01:30.729,0:01:35.850 but at the same time it[br]creates this whole dilemma of 0:01:35.850,0:01:39.270 at what point does[br]it become too much? 0:01:39.270,0:01:44.819 >> Courtney: I can personally say that[br]technology has definitely helped me 0:01:44.819,0:01:47.650 to access things that otherwise I[br]wouldn't be able to access 0:01:47.650,0:01:53.049 and I think progression[br]for technology 0:01:53.049,0:01:56.340 is definitely beneficial[br]to people with disabilities 0:01:56.340,0:02:00.840 but I think there’s definitely[br]a line between something like 0:02:00.840,0:02:05.640 a more improved wheelchair[br]and an exoskeleton 0:02:05.640,0:02:08.259 for someone in a wheelchair[br]to be able to walk 0:02:08.259,0:02:12.670 and I think the difference[br]between those two things is 0:02:12.670,0:02:16.660 one seeks to improve the life[br]of the person with a disability 0:02:16.660,0:02:19.000 or make access easier for them. 0:02:19.000,0:02:22.810 The other one seeks[br]to eliminate disability. 0:02:22.810,0:02:27.730 And I think that is a key difference[br]that a lot of able-bodied people 0:02:27.730,0:02:30.700 who don't have a lot of[br]experience with disability miss. 0:02:30.700,0:02:34.690 >> Shelby: I know everything probably has[br]a little bit of a disadvantages 0:02:34.690,0:02:38.170 but if something’s going to help you[br]be able to complete a task, 0:02:38.170,0:02:41.920 and you’re still using your brain power[br]and understanding what needs to happen 0:02:41.920,0:02:43.540 then I think it’s great. 0:02:44.100,0:02:47.040 >> Courtney: I think that if that is[br]something that you personally really want, 0:02:47.050,0:02:49.900 you want to be better,[br]you want to be this extra human 0:02:49.900,0:02:51.600 that should be an option. 0:02:51.600,0:02:53.450 But it should not be a requirement. 0:02:53.450,0:02:56.740 Like I personally am[br]very happy how I am. 0:02:56.740,0:02:59.920 I would not change a[br]single thing about myself. 0:02:59.920,0:03:03.120 If I was given the option[br]tomorrow to walk, I wouldn't. 0:03:03.120,0:03:04.730 I love my life. 0:03:04.730,0:03:10.490 >> Antonio: Instead of trying to use technology[br]to create the perfect human being, 0:03:10.490,0:03:12.440 we should focus more on 0:03:12.440,0:03:15.130 just trying to deal with the[br]issues at hand in terms of 0:03:15.130,0:03:18.790 creating a society that[br]is equally accessible 0:03:18.790,0:03:22.210 for people who are currently[br]not able to have 0:03:22.210,0:03:24.440 the same opportunities[br]as others. 0:03:25.540,0:03:28.760 >> Niki: For some of my friends[br]who have disabilities 0:03:28.760,0:03:33.090 that are putting,[br]shortening their lives, 0:03:33.090,0:03:34.990 and there's technology that is 0:03:34.990,0:03:37.120 bringing out new studies,[br]bringing out new drugs 0:03:37.120,0:03:40.730 that are going to help them get[br]stronger and be able to live longer 0:03:40.730,0:03:42.620 I think that stuff is great. 0:03:42.620,0:03:46.570 But I also do see where[br]it's problematic in 0:03:46.570,0:03:50.290 trying to force people[br]to become more "normal" 0:03:50.290,0:03:51.980 and when they don't[br]necessarily want to be. 0:03:53.180,0:03:55.930 Why do we need to fix everyone[br]and fix everything? 0:03:55.930,0:04:00.800 So I think it's just up to[br]the person themselves and 0:04:00.800,0:04:04.480 if they want you know certain parts[br]of their disabilities to be not 0:04:04.480,0:04:07.040 a part of their lives[br]they have that option 0:04:07.040,0:04:09.820 then that's great for them 0:04:09.820,0:04:11.600 but I don't think it[br]should be forced upon anyone 0:04:11.600,0:04:12.820 and that societal pressure 0:04:12.820,0:04:15.160 shouldn't be, you know, 0:04:15.160,0:04:18.840 you have to do this[br]because it's available. 0:04:20.920,0:04:22.700 >> Clarissa: We cannot be perfect 0:04:22.710,0:04:26.800 so I think like the[br]differences between us 0:04:26.800,0:04:30.669 even though if it's like[br]disability or not. 0:04:30.669,0:04:34.759 It's what makes us special[br]and stands out 0:04:34.760,0:04:39.480 so we should be proud[br]of that I think. 0:04:41.200,0:04:45.020 >> Courtney: If I were talking[br]to scientists developing 0:04:45.030,0:04:48.720 the next round or the next[br]generation of technology, 0:04:48.720,0:04:51.000 the first thing I[br]would say to them is, 0:04:51.000,0:04:55.210 "Do you have a disabled person[br]on your team?" 0:04:55.210,0:04:58.439 Because the best way to[br]make things more accessible 0:04:58.440,0:05:02.610 is to include people with disabilities[br]in the creation process. 0:05:03.220,0:05:06.360 >> Stuart: The goal of technology[br]is to make people’s lives easier 0:05:06.370,0:05:12.999 and I don’t see how having somebody[br]who has lost their legs 0:05:12.999,0:05:16.919 and trying to get them to walking[br]is a negative thing. 0:05:16.919,0:05:21.659 I don’t know maybe[br]200 years from today 0:05:21.659,0:05:25.770 when robotics improves[br]and takes over the world 0:05:25.770,0:05:27.860 that could be some other discussion. 0:05:30.900,0:05:31.820 >> Linsey: There is a very fine line 0:05:31.830,0:05:34.310 where we have this technology[br]available to people 0:05:34.310,0:05:37.930 to better their ability to[br]get around in the world but then 0:05:37.930,0:05:41.900 we also have to be sure that we're not[br]assuming that they want this technology 0:05:41.900,0:05:44.840 because it's going to[br]quote unquote cure them. 0:05:44.840,0:05:47.360 Or make them[br]more able-bodied. 0:05:47.360,0:05:48.699 We should be[br]asking the question, 0:05:48.699,0:05:51.220 "Do you want this technology because, 0:05:51.220,0:05:53.569 not because it's going to make you[br]more, like, able-bodied 0:05:53.569,0:05:56.969 but is it actually going to improve[br]your life as a disabled person 0:05:56.969,0:05:59.930 able to get around and accommodate you[br]with the things you need help with?" 0:05:59.930,0:06:05.860 Instead of trying to get people to kind of[br]merge toward this one standardized version 0:06:05.860,0:06:08.039 of what the body[br]should be able to do. 0:06:09.200,0:06:11.819 >> Shelby: So maybe one of the[br]tools is having a hand 0:06:11.819,0:06:15.650 or some type of device[br]that can help them climb. 0:06:15.650,0:06:18.140 I think that’s awesome. 0:06:18.260,0:06:21.820 But really the key thing is that[br]they want that for themselves. 0:06:21.829,0:06:26.620 >> Courtney: Being disabled and[br]living life is completely worthwhile. 0:06:26.620,0:06:27.969 The thing that makes it challenging 0:06:27.969,0:06:33.689 is the fact that systems are not built[br]with people with disabilities in mind 0:06:33.689,0:06:35.870 and so the change that[br]really needs to happen 0:06:35.870,0:06:38.129 more than fixing[br]people with disabilities 0:06:38.129,0:06:43.539 is changing our society to be accessible[br]for people with disabilities 0:06:43.540,0:06:49.529 to be able to have access to all the things[br]that everyone else accesses. 0:06:51.200,0:06:55.979 >> Dewald: Why would you[br]not want to be yourself? 0:06:55.979,0:07:00.870 I feel like that would[br]change who you are. 0:07:00.870,0:07:04.939 There are so many little things[br]that make up you as a person, 0:07:04.939,0:07:08.279 why should you care[br]if there are little flaws? 0:07:08.279,0:07:13.370 As long as you're[br]a great person as a whole. 0:07:13.370,0:07:16.930 >> Courtney: Humans will never[br]be without disability. 0:07:16.930,0:07:19.270 It's written into[br]our physical existence 0:07:19.270,0:07:24.419 that as we age it's[br]almost certain that we will 0:07:24.420,0:07:26.060 develop some kind of disability. 0:07:26.060,0:07:28.200 Having a disability[br]is completely natural. 0:07:28.260,0:07:30.720 It just happens earlier[br]for some people.