WEBVTT 00:00:00.826 --> 00:00:03.469 So I'd like you to imagine for a moment 00:00:03.493 --> 00:00:05.873 that you're a soldier in the heat of battle. 00:00:06.730 --> 00:00:10.261 Maybe you're a Roman foot soldier or a medieval archer 00:00:10.285 --> 00:00:12.165 or maybe you're a Zulu warrior. 00:00:12.189 --> 00:00:16.443 Regardless of your time and place, there are some things that are constant. 00:00:16.467 --> 00:00:18.361 Your adrenaline is elevated, 00:00:18.385 --> 00:00:23.194 and your actions are stemming from these deeply ingrained reflexes, 00:00:23.218 --> 00:00:27.574 reflexes rooted in a need to protect yourself and your side 00:00:27.598 --> 00:00:29.287 and to defeat the enemy. NOTE Paragraph 00:00:30.826 --> 00:00:34.363 So now, I'd like you to imagine playing a very different role, 00:00:34.387 --> 00:00:35.988 that of the scout. 00:00:36.012 --> 00:00:39.401 The scout's job is not to attack or defend. 00:00:39.425 --> 00:00:41.820 The scout's job is to understand. 00:00:42.233 --> 00:00:44.294 The scout is the one going out, 00:00:44.318 --> 00:00:48.381 mapping the terrain, identifying potential obstacles. 00:00:48.405 --> 00:00:51.981 And the scout may hope to learn that, say, there's a bridge 00:00:52.005 --> 00:00:54.339 in a convenient location across a river. 00:00:54.363 --> 00:00:57.410 But above all, the scout wants to know what's really there, 00:00:57.434 --> 00:00:59.027 as accurately as possible. 00:01:00.195 --> 00:01:05.241 And in a real, actual army, both the soldier and the scout are essential. 00:01:05.265 --> 00:01:10.575 But you can also think of each of these roles as a mindset -- 00:01:10.599 --> 00:01:14.226 a metaphor for how all of us process information and ideas 00:01:14.250 --> 00:01:15.717 in our daily lives. 00:01:16.192 --> 00:01:20.022 What I'm going to argue today is that having good judgment, 00:01:20.046 --> 00:01:23.260 making accurate predictions, making good decisions, 00:01:23.284 --> 00:01:26.042 is mostly about which mindset you're in. NOTE Paragraph 00:01:26.994 --> 00:01:29.587 To illustrate these mindsets in action, 00:01:29.611 --> 00:01:33.095 I'm going to take you back to 19th-century France, 00:01:33.119 --> 00:01:36.102 where this innocuous-looking piece of paper 00:01:36.126 --> 00:01:39.164 launched one of the biggest political scandals in history. 00:01:39.718 --> 00:01:44.115 It was discovered in 1894 by officers in the French general staff. 00:01:44.616 --> 00:01:47.308 It was torn up in a wastepaper basket, 00:01:47.332 --> 00:01:49.257 but when they pieced it back together, 00:01:49.281 --> 00:01:51.313 they discovered that someone in their ranks 00:01:51.337 --> 00:01:53.700 had been selling military secrets to Germany. NOTE Paragraph 00:01:54.462 --> 00:01:56.819 So they launched a big investigation, 00:01:56.843 --> 00:02:00.709 and their suspicions quickly converged on this man, 00:02:00.733 --> 00:02:02.065 Alfred Dreyfus. 00:02:02.867 --> 00:02:04.185 He had a sterling record, 00:02:04.209 --> 00:02:07.729 no past history of wrongdoing, no motive as far as they could tell. 00:02:08.342 --> 00:02:13.460 But Dreyfus was the only Jewish officer at that rank in the army, 00:02:13.484 --> 00:02:17.659 and unfortunately at this time, the French Army was highly anti-Semitic. 00:02:17.683 --> 00:02:20.905 They compared Dreyfus's handwriting to that on the memo 00:02:20.929 --> 00:02:22.866 and concluded that it was a match, 00:02:22.890 --> 00:02:25.932 even though outside professional handwriting experts 00:02:25.956 --> 00:02:28.106 were much less confident in the similarity, 00:02:28.130 --> 00:02:29.520 but never mind that. 00:02:29.544 --> 00:02:31.584 They went and searched Dreyfus's apartment, 00:02:31.608 --> 00:02:33.364 looking for any signs of espionage. 00:02:33.388 --> 00:02:36.348 They went through his files, and they didn't find anything. 00:02:36.372 --> 00:02:39.506 This just convinced them more that Dreyfus was not only guilty, 00:02:39.530 --> 00:02:42.823 but sneaky as well, because clearly he had hidden all of the evidence 00:02:42.847 --> 00:02:44.696 before they had managed to get to it. NOTE Paragraph 00:02:45.212 --> 00:02:47.904 Next, they went and looked through his personal history 00:02:47.928 --> 00:02:50.229 for any incriminating details. 00:02:50.253 --> 00:02:51.855 They talked to his teachers, 00:02:51.879 --> 00:02:54.664 they found that he had studied foreign languages in school, 00:02:54.688 --> 00:02:58.741 which clearly showed a desire to conspire with foreign governments 00:02:58.765 --> 00:02:59.948 later in life. 00:02:59.972 --> 00:03:05.983 His teachers also said that Dreyfus was known for having a good memory, 00:03:06.007 --> 00:03:08.119 which was highly suspicious, right? 00:03:08.143 --> 00:03:11.483 You know, because a spy has to remember a lot of things. NOTE Paragraph 00:03:12.439 --> 00:03:16.099 So the case went to trial, and Dreyfus was found guilty. 00:03:16.816 --> 00:03:20.136 Afterwards, they took him out into this public square 00:03:20.160 --> 00:03:23.884 and ritualistically tore his insignia from his uniform 00:03:23.908 --> 00:03:25.813 and broke his sword in two. 00:03:25.837 --> 00:03:27.852 This was called the Degradation of Dreyfus. 00:03:28.860 --> 00:03:31.377 And they sentenced him to life imprisonment 00:03:31.401 --> 00:03:34.141 on the aptly named Devil's Island, 00:03:34.165 --> 00:03:36.989 which is this barren rock off the coast of South America. 00:03:37.556 --> 00:03:41.306 So there he went, and there he spent his days alone, 00:03:41.330 --> 00:03:43.834 writing letters and letters to the French government 00:03:43.858 --> 00:03:47.166 begging them to reopen his case so they could discover his innocence. 00:03:47.634 --> 00:03:50.547 But for the most part, France considered the matter closed. NOTE Paragraph 00:03:51.301 --> 00:03:55.594 One thing that's really interesting to me about the Dreyfus Affair 00:03:55.618 --> 00:03:59.396 is this question of why the officers were so convinced 00:03:59.420 --> 00:04:01.141 that Dreyfus was guilty. 00:04:01.556 --> 00:04:04.403 I mean, you might even assume that they were setting him up, 00:04:04.427 --> 00:04:06.395 that they were intentionally framing him. 00:04:06.419 --> 00:04:08.686 But historians don't think that's what happened. 00:04:08.710 --> 00:04:09.869 As far as we can tell, 00:04:09.893 --> 00:04:14.130 the officers genuinely believed that the case against Dreyfus was strong. 00:04:14.154 --> 00:04:16.630 Which makes you wonder: 00:04:16.654 --> 00:04:18.928 What does it say about the human mind 00:04:18.952 --> 00:04:21.265 that we can find such paltry evidence 00:04:21.289 --> 00:04:23.376 to be compelling enough to convict a man? NOTE Paragraph 00:04:24.210 --> 00:04:28.496 Well, this is a case of what scientists call "motivated reasoning." 00:04:28.520 --> 00:04:31.574 It's this phenomenon in which our unconscious motivations, 00:04:31.598 --> 00:04:33.950 our desires and fears, 00:04:33.974 --> 00:04:36.320 shape the way we interpret information. 00:04:36.344 --> 00:04:39.754 Some information, some ideas, feel like our allies. 00:04:39.778 --> 00:04:42.420 We want them to win. We want to defend them. 00:04:42.444 --> 00:04:44.975 And other information or ideas are the enemy, 00:04:44.999 --> 00:04:46.567 and we want to shoot them down. 00:04:47.408 --> 00:04:51.115 So this is why I call motivated reasoning, "soldier mindset." NOTE Paragraph 00:04:51.988 --> 00:04:54.993 Probably most of you have never persecuted 00:04:55.017 --> 00:04:57.298 a French-Jewish officer for high treason, 00:04:57.322 --> 00:04:58.795 I assume, 00:04:58.819 --> 00:05:03.678 but maybe you've followed sports or politics, so you might have noticed 00:05:03.702 --> 00:05:07.824 that when the referee judges that your team committed a foul, 00:05:07.848 --> 00:05:09.010 for example, 00:05:09.034 --> 00:05:12.127 you're highly motivated to find reasons why he's wrong. 00:05:12.482 --> 00:05:15.594 But if he judges that the other team committed a foul -- awesome! 00:05:15.618 --> 00:05:18.180 That's a good call, let's not examine it too closely. 00:05:18.792 --> 00:05:20.909 Or, maybe you've read an article or a study 00:05:20.933 --> 00:05:23.639 that examined some controversial policy, 00:05:23.663 --> 00:05:24.879 like capital punishment. 00:05:25.735 --> 00:05:27.852 And, as researchers have demonstrated, 00:05:27.876 --> 00:05:29.581 if you support capital punishment 00:05:29.605 --> 00:05:32.121 and the study shows that it's not effective, 00:05:32.145 --> 00:05:35.391 then you're highly motivated to find all the reasons 00:05:35.415 --> 00:05:37.588 why the study was poorly designed. 00:05:37.612 --> 00:05:39.818 But if it shows that capital punishment works, 00:05:39.842 --> 00:05:41.001 it's a good study. 00:05:41.025 --> 00:05:44.273 And vice versa: if you don't support capital punishment, same thing. NOTE Paragraph 00:05:44.297 --> 00:05:47.126 Our judgment is strongly influenced, unconsciously, 00:05:47.150 --> 00:05:49.428 by which side we want to win. 00:05:50.071 --> 00:05:51.960 And this is ubiquitous. 00:05:51.984 --> 00:05:55.022 This shapes how we think about our health, our relationships, 00:05:55.046 --> 00:05:56.942 how we decide how to vote, 00:05:56.966 --> 00:05:59.334 what we consider fair or ethical. 00:06:00.036 --> 00:06:02.799 What's most scary to me about motivated reasoning 00:06:02.823 --> 00:06:03.974 or soldier mindset, 00:06:03.998 --> 00:06:05.245 is how unconscious it is. 00:06:05.269 --> 00:06:08.549 We can think we're being objective and fair-minded 00:06:08.573 --> 00:06:12.040 and still wind up ruining the life of an innocent man. NOTE Paragraph 00:06:13.008 --> 00:06:15.891 However, fortunately for Dreyfus, his story is not over. 00:06:15.915 --> 00:06:17.283 This is Colonel Picquart. 00:06:17.307 --> 00:06:19.851 He's another high-ranking officer in the French Army, 00:06:19.875 --> 00:06:22.504 and like most people, he assumed Dreyfus was guilty. 00:06:22.893 --> 00:06:27.318 Also like most people in the army, he was at least casually anti-Semitic. 00:06:27.342 --> 00:06:30.707 But at a certain point, Picquart began to suspect: 00:06:31.302 --> 00:06:34.077 "What if we're all wrong about Dreyfus?" 00:06:34.448 --> 00:06:36.626 What happened was, he had discovered evidence 00:06:36.650 --> 00:06:39.127 that the spying for Germany had continued, 00:06:39.151 --> 00:06:41.126 even after Dreyfus was in prison. 00:06:41.516 --> 00:06:44.812 And he had also discovered that another officer in the army 00:06:44.836 --> 00:06:47.409 had handwriting that perfectly matched the memo, 00:06:47.433 --> 00:06:49.794 much closer than Dreyfus's handwriting. 00:06:50.382 --> 00:06:53.223 So he brought these discoveries to his superiors, 00:06:54.017 --> 00:06:57.694 but to his dismay, they either didn't care 00:06:57.718 --> 00:07:01.306 or came up with elaborate rationalizations to explain his findings, 00:07:01.330 --> 00:07:06.703 like, "Well, all you've really shown, Picquart, is that there's another spy 00:07:06.727 --> 00:07:09.100 who learned how to mimic Dreyfus's handwriting, 00:07:09.124 --> 00:07:12.664 and he picked up the torch of spying after Dreyfus left. 00:07:13.148 --> 00:07:14.798 But Dreyfus is still guilty." 00:07:15.854 --> 00:07:18.879 Eventually, Picquart managed to get Dreyfus exonerated. 00:07:18.903 --> 00:07:20.431 But it took him 10 years, 00:07:20.455 --> 00:07:22.986 and for part of that time, he himself was in prison 00:07:23.010 --> 00:07:25.308 for the crime of disloyalty to the army. NOTE Paragraph 00:07:26.491 --> 00:07:32.491 A lot of people feel like Picquart can't really be the hero of this story 00:07:32.515 --> 00:07:36.744 because he was an anti-Semite and that's bad, which I agree with. 00:07:37.323 --> 00:07:41.974 But personally, for me, the fact that Picquart was anti-Semitic 00:07:41.998 --> 00:07:44.583 actually makes his actions more admirable, 00:07:44.607 --> 00:07:47.723 because he had the same prejudices, the same reasons to be biased 00:07:47.747 --> 00:07:49.532 as his fellow officers, 00:07:49.556 --> 00:07:54.191 but his motivation to find the truth and uphold it trumped all of that. NOTE Paragraph 00:07:55.108 --> 00:07:56.297 So to me, 00:07:56.321 --> 00:08:00.127 Picquart is a poster child for what I call "scout mindset." 00:08:00.598 --> 00:08:04.674 It's the drive not to make one idea win or another lose, 00:08:04.698 --> 00:08:06.622 but just to see what's really there 00:08:06.646 --> 00:08:09.121 as honestly and accurately as you can, 00:08:09.145 --> 00:08:12.425 even if it's not pretty or convenient or pleasant. 00:08:13.444 --> 00:08:16.690 This mindset is what I'm personally passionate about. 00:08:16.714 --> 00:08:21.843 And I've spent the last few years examining and trying to figure out 00:08:21.867 --> 00:08:23.850 what causes scout mindset. 00:08:23.874 --> 00:08:27.022 Why are some people, sometimes at least, 00:08:27.046 --> 00:08:30.834 able to cut through their own prejudices and biases and motivations 00:08:30.858 --> 00:08:33.153 and just try to see the facts and the evidence 00:08:33.177 --> 00:08:34.650 as objectively as they can? NOTE Paragraph 00:08:35.602 --> 00:08:38.613 And the answer is emotional. 00:08:39.119 --> 00:08:42.886 So, just as soldier mindset is rooted in emotions 00:08:42.910 --> 00:08:45.898 like defensiveness or tribalism, 00:08:46.615 --> 00:08:47.981 scout mindset is, too. 00:08:48.005 --> 00:08:49.991 It's just rooted in different emotions. 00:08:50.015 --> 00:08:53.434 For example, scouts are curious. 00:08:53.458 --> 00:08:57.004 They're more likely to say they feel pleasure 00:08:57.028 --> 00:08:58.688 when they learn new information 00:08:58.712 --> 00:09:01.023 or an itch to solve a puzzle. 00:09:01.544 --> 00:09:04.713 They're more likely to feel intrigued when they encounter something 00:09:04.737 --> 00:09:06.833 that contradicts their expectations. 00:09:07.206 --> 00:09:09.183 Scouts also have different values. 00:09:09.207 --> 00:09:12.279 They're more likely to say they think it's virtuous 00:09:12.303 --> 00:09:13.792 to test your own beliefs, 00:09:13.816 --> 00:09:17.522 and they're less likely to say that someone who changes his mind 00:09:17.546 --> 00:09:18.808 seems weak. 00:09:18.832 --> 00:09:20.717 And above all, scouts are grounded, 00:09:20.741 --> 00:09:24.646 which means their self-worth as a person 00:09:24.670 --> 00:09:30.136 isn't tied to how right or wrong they are about any particular topic. 00:09:30.160 --> 00:09:33.414 So they can believe that capital punishment works. 00:09:33.438 --> 00:09:36.251 If studies come out showing that it doesn't, they can say, 00:09:36.275 --> 00:09:40.184 "Huh. Looks like I might be wrong. Doesn't mean I'm bad or stupid." NOTE Paragraph 00:09:41.954 --> 00:09:46.280 This cluster of traits is what researchers have found -- 00:09:46.304 --> 00:09:48.010 and I've also found anecdotally -- 00:09:48.034 --> 00:09:49.865 predicts good judgment. 00:09:50.386 --> 00:09:53.669 And the key takeaway I want to leave you with about those traits 00:09:53.693 --> 00:09:57.330 is that they're primarily not about how smart you are 00:09:57.354 --> 00:09:59.352 or about how much you know. 00:09:59.376 --> 00:10:02.182 In fact, they don't correlate very much with IQ at all. 00:10:02.638 --> 00:10:04.288 They're about how you feel. 00:10:04.849 --> 00:10:08.872 There's a quote that I keep coming back to, by Saint-Exupéry. 00:10:08.896 --> 00:10:10.837 He's the author of "The Little Prince." 00:10:10.861 --> 00:10:13.630 He said, "If you want to build a ship, 00:10:14.234 --> 00:10:18.855 don't drum up your men to collect wood and give orders 00:10:18.879 --> 00:10:20.299 and distribute the work. 00:10:20.669 --> 00:10:25.236 Instead, teach them to yearn for the vast and endless sea." NOTE Paragraph 00:10:26.252 --> 00:10:28.398 In other words, I claim, 00:10:28.850 --> 00:10:32.010 if we really want to improve our judgment as individuals 00:10:32.034 --> 00:10:33.477 and as societies, 00:10:33.501 --> 00:10:37.010 what we need most is not more instruction in logic 00:10:37.034 --> 00:10:40.582 or rhetoric or probability or economics, 00:10:40.606 --> 00:10:42.689 even though those things are quite valuable. 00:10:42.713 --> 00:10:46.017 But what we most need to use those principles well 00:10:46.041 --> 00:10:47.459 is scout mindset. 00:10:47.483 --> 00:10:49.363 We need to change the way we feel. 00:10:49.759 --> 00:10:53.569 We need to learn how to feel proud instead of ashamed 00:10:53.593 --> 00:10:56.231 when we notice we might have been wrong about something. 00:10:56.255 --> 00:10:59.383 We need to learn how to feel intrigued instead of defensive 00:10:59.407 --> 00:11:03.650 when we encounter some information that contradicts our beliefs. NOTE Paragraph 00:11:04.555 --> 00:11:07.415 So the question I want to leave you with is: 00:11:07.817 --> 00:11:09.967 What do you most yearn for? 00:11:10.771 --> 00:11:13.398 Do you yearn to defend your own beliefs? 00:11:14.128 --> 00:11:17.722 Or do you yearn to see the world as clearly as you possibly can? NOTE Paragraph 00:11:18.352 --> 00:11:19.503 Thank you. NOTE Paragraph 00:11:19.527 --> 00:11:24.524 (Applause)