1 00:00:00,826 --> 00:00:03,469 So I'd like you to imagine for a moment 2 00:00:03,493 --> 00:00:05,873 that you're a soldier in the heat of battle. 3 00:00:06,730 --> 00:00:10,261 Maybe you're a Roman foot soldier or a medieval archer 4 00:00:10,285 --> 00:00:12,165 or maybe you're a Zulu warrior. 5 00:00:12,189 --> 00:00:16,443 Regardless of your time and place, there are some things that are constant. 6 00:00:16,467 --> 00:00:18,361 Your adrenaline is elevated, 7 00:00:18,385 --> 00:00:23,194 and your actions are stemming from these deeply ingrained reflexes, 8 00:00:23,218 --> 00:00:27,574 reflexes rooted in a need to protect yourself and your side 9 00:00:27,598 --> 00:00:29,287 and to defeat the enemy. 10 00:00:30,826 --> 00:00:34,363 So now, I'd like you to imagine playing a very different role, 11 00:00:34,387 --> 00:00:35,988 that of the scout. 12 00:00:36,012 --> 00:00:39,401 The scout's job is not to attack or defend. 13 00:00:39,425 --> 00:00:41,820 The scout's job is to understand. 14 00:00:42,233 --> 00:00:44,294 The scout is the one going out, 15 00:00:44,318 --> 00:00:48,381 mapping the terrain, identifying potential obstacles. 16 00:00:48,405 --> 00:00:51,981 And the scout may hope to learn that, say, there's a bridge 17 00:00:52,005 --> 00:00:54,339 in a convenient location across a river. 18 00:00:54,363 --> 00:00:57,410 But above all, the scout wants to know what's really there, 19 00:00:57,434 --> 00:00:59,027 as accurately as possible. 20 00:01:00,195 --> 00:01:05,241 And in a real, actual army, both the soldier and the scout are essential. 21 00:01:05,265 --> 00:01:10,575 But you can also think of each of these roles as a mindset -- 22 00:01:10,599 --> 00:01:14,226 a metaphor for how all of us process information and ideas 23 00:01:14,250 --> 00:01:15,717 in our daily lives. 24 00:01:16,192 --> 00:01:20,022 What I'm going to argue today is that having good judgment, 25 00:01:20,046 --> 00:01:23,260 making accurate predictions, making good decisions, 26 00:01:23,284 --> 00:01:26,042 is mostly about which mindset you're in. 27 00:01:26,994 --> 00:01:29,587 To illustrate these mindsets in action, 28 00:01:29,611 --> 00:01:33,095 I'm going to take you back to 19th-century France, 29 00:01:33,119 --> 00:01:36,102 where this innocuous-looking piece of paper 30 00:01:36,126 --> 00:01:39,164 launched one of the biggest political scandals in history. 31 00:01:39,718 --> 00:01:44,115 It was discovered in 1894 by officers in the French general staff. 32 00:01:44,616 --> 00:01:47,308 It was torn up in a wastepaper basket, 33 00:01:47,332 --> 00:01:49,257 but when they pieced it back together, 34 00:01:49,281 --> 00:01:51,313 they discovered that someone in their ranks 35 00:01:51,337 --> 00:01:53,700 had been selling military secrets to Germany. 36 00:01:54,462 --> 00:01:56,819 So they launched a big investigation, 37 00:01:56,843 --> 00:02:00,709 and their suspicions quickly converged on this man, 38 00:02:00,733 --> 00:02:02,065 Alfred Dreyfus. 39 00:02:02,867 --> 00:02:04,185 He had a sterling record, 40 00:02:04,209 --> 00:02:07,729 no past history of wrongdoing, no motive as far as they could tell. 41 00:02:08,342 --> 00:02:13,460 But Dreyfus was the only Jewish officer at that rank in the army, 42 00:02:13,484 --> 00:02:17,659 and unfortunately at this time, the French Army was highly anti-Semitic. 43 00:02:17,683 --> 00:02:20,905 They compared Dreyfus's handwriting to that on the memo 44 00:02:20,929 --> 00:02:22,866 and concluded that it was a match, 45 00:02:22,890 --> 00:02:25,932 even though outside professional handwriting experts 46 00:02:25,956 --> 00:02:28,106 were much less confident in the similarity, 47 00:02:28,130 --> 00:02:29,520 but never mind that. 48 00:02:29,544 --> 00:02:31,584 They went and searched Dreyfus's apartment, 49 00:02:31,608 --> 00:02:33,364 looking for any signs of espionage. 50 00:02:33,388 --> 00:02:36,348 They went through his files, and they didn't find anything. 51 00:02:36,372 --> 00:02:39,506 This just convinced them more that Dreyfus was not only guilty, 52 00:02:39,530 --> 00:02:42,823 but sneaky as well, because clearly he had hidden all of the evidence 53 00:02:42,847 --> 00:02:44,696 before they had managed to get to it. 54 00:02:45,212 --> 00:02:47,904 Next, they went and looked through his personal history 55 00:02:47,928 --> 00:02:50,229 for any incriminating details. 56 00:02:50,253 --> 00:02:51,855 They talked to his teachers, 57 00:02:51,879 --> 00:02:54,664 they found that he had studied foreign languages in school, 58 00:02:54,688 --> 00:02:58,741 which clearly showed a desire to conspire with foreign governments 59 00:02:58,765 --> 00:02:59,948 later in life. 60 00:02:59,972 --> 00:03:05,983 His teachers also said that Dreyfus was known for having a good memory, 61 00:03:06,007 --> 00:03:08,119 which was highly suspicious, right? 62 00:03:08,143 --> 00:03:11,483 You know, because a spy has to remember a lot of things. 63 00:03:12,439 --> 00:03:16,099 So the case went to trial, and Dreyfus was found guilty. 64 00:03:16,816 --> 00:03:20,136 Afterwards, they took him out into this public square 65 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:23,884 and ritualistically tore his insignia from his uniform 66 00:03:23,908 --> 00:03:25,813 and broke his sword in two. 67 00:03:25,837 --> 00:03:27,852 This was called the Degradation of Dreyfus. 68 00:03:28,860 --> 00:03:31,377 And they sentenced him to life imprisonment 69 00:03:31,401 --> 00:03:34,141 on the aptly named Devil's Island, 70 00:03:34,165 --> 00:03:36,989 which is this barren rock off the coast of South America. 71 00:03:37,556 --> 00:03:41,306 So there he went, and there he spent his days alone, 72 00:03:41,330 --> 00:03:43,834 writing letters and letters to the French government 73 00:03:43,858 --> 00:03:47,166 begging them to reopen his case so they could discover his innocence. 74 00:03:47,634 --> 00:03:50,547 But for the most part, France considered the matter closed. 75 00:03:51,301 --> 00:03:55,594 One thing that's really interesting to me about the Dreyfus Affair 76 00:03:55,618 --> 00:03:59,396 is this question of why the officers were so convinced 77 00:03:59,420 --> 00:04:01,141 that Dreyfus was guilty. 78 00:04:01,556 --> 00:04:04,403 I mean, you might even assume that they were setting him up, 79 00:04:04,427 --> 00:04:06,395 that they were intentionally framing him. 80 00:04:06,419 --> 00:04:08,686 But historians don't think that's what happened. 81 00:04:08,710 --> 00:04:09,869 As far as we can tell, 82 00:04:09,893 --> 00:04:14,130 the officers genuinely believed that the case against Dreyfus was strong. 83 00:04:14,154 --> 00:04:16,630 Which makes you wonder: 84 00:04:16,654 --> 00:04:18,928 What does it say about the human mind 85 00:04:18,952 --> 00:04:21,265 that we can find such paltry evidence 86 00:04:21,289 --> 00:04:23,376 to be compelling enough to convict a man? 87 00:04:24,210 --> 00:04:28,496 Well, this is a case of what scientists call "motivated reasoning." 88 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,574 It's this phenomenon in which our unconscious motivations, 89 00:04:31,598 --> 00:04:33,950 our desires and fears, 90 00:04:33,974 --> 00:04:36,320 shape the way we interpret information. 91 00:04:36,344 --> 00:04:39,754 Some information, some ideas, feel like our allies. 92 00:04:39,778 --> 00:04:42,420 We want them to win. We want to defend them. 93 00:04:42,444 --> 00:04:44,975 And other information or ideas are the enemy, 94 00:04:44,999 --> 00:04:46,567 and we want to shoot them down. 95 00:04:47,408 --> 00:04:51,115 So this is why I call motivated reasoning, "soldier mindset." 96 00:04:51,988 --> 00:04:54,993 Probably most of you have never persecuted 97 00:04:55,017 --> 00:04:57,298 a French-Jewish officer for high treason, 98 00:04:57,322 --> 00:04:58,795 I assume, 99 00:04:58,819 --> 00:05:03,678 but maybe you've followed sports or politics, so you might have noticed 100 00:05:03,702 --> 00:05:07,824 that when the referee judges that your team committed a foul, 101 00:05:07,848 --> 00:05:09,010 for example, 102 00:05:09,034 --> 00:05:12,127 you're highly motivated to find reasons why he's wrong. 103 00:05:12,482 --> 00:05:15,594 But if he judges that the other team committed a foul -- awesome! 104 00:05:15,618 --> 00:05:18,180 That's a good call, let's not examine it too closely. 105 00:05:18,792 --> 00:05:20,909 Or, maybe you've read an article or a study 106 00:05:20,933 --> 00:05:23,639 that examined some controversial policy, 107 00:05:23,663 --> 00:05:24,879 like capital punishment. 108 00:05:25,735 --> 00:05:27,852 And, as researchers have demonstrated, 109 00:05:27,876 --> 00:05:29,581 if you support capital punishment 110 00:05:29,605 --> 00:05:32,121 and the study shows that it's not effective, 111 00:05:32,145 --> 00:05:35,391 then you're highly motivated to find all the reasons 112 00:05:35,415 --> 00:05:37,588 why the study was poorly designed. 113 00:05:37,612 --> 00:05:39,818 But if it shows that capital punishment works, 114 00:05:39,842 --> 00:05:41,001 it's a good study. 115 00:05:41,025 --> 00:05:44,273 And vice versa: if you don't support capital punishment, same thing. 116 00:05:44,297 --> 00:05:47,126 Our judgment is strongly influenced, unconsciously, 117 00:05:47,150 --> 00:05:49,428 by which side we want to win. 118 00:05:50,071 --> 00:05:51,960 And this is ubiquitous. 119 00:05:51,984 --> 00:05:55,022 This shapes how we think about our health, our relationships, 120 00:05:55,046 --> 00:05:56,942 how we decide how to vote, 121 00:05:56,966 --> 00:05:59,334 what we consider fair or ethical. 122 00:06:00,036 --> 00:06:02,799 What's most scary to me about motivated reasoning 123 00:06:02,823 --> 00:06:03,974 or soldier mindset, 124 00:06:03,998 --> 00:06:05,245 is how unconscious it is. 125 00:06:05,269 --> 00:06:08,549 We can think we're being objective and fair-minded 126 00:06:08,573 --> 00:06:12,040 and still wind up ruining the life of an innocent man. 127 00:06:13,008 --> 00:06:15,891 However, fortunately for Dreyfus, his story is not over. 128 00:06:15,915 --> 00:06:17,283 This is Colonel Picquart. 129 00:06:17,307 --> 00:06:19,851 He's another high-ranking officer in the French Army, 130 00:06:19,875 --> 00:06:22,504 and like most people, he assumed Dreyfus was guilty. 131 00:06:22,893 --> 00:06:27,318 Also like most people in the army, he was at least casually anti-Semitic. 132 00:06:27,342 --> 00:06:30,707 But at a certain point, Picquart began to suspect: 133 00:06:31,302 --> 00:06:34,077 "What if we're all wrong about Dreyfus?" 134 00:06:34,448 --> 00:06:36,626 What happened was, he had discovered evidence 135 00:06:36,650 --> 00:06:39,127 that the spying for Germany had continued, 136 00:06:39,151 --> 00:06:41,126 even after Dreyfus was in prison. 137 00:06:41,516 --> 00:06:44,812 And he had also discovered that another officer in the army 138 00:06:44,836 --> 00:06:47,409 had handwriting that perfectly matched the memo, 139 00:06:47,433 --> 00:06:49,794 much closer than Dreyfus's handwriting. 140 00:06:50,382 --> 00:06:53,223 So he brought these discoveries to his superiors, 141 00:06:54,017 --> 00:06:57,694 but to his dismay, they either didn't care 142 00:06:57,718 --> 00:07:01,306 or came up with elaborate rationalizations to explain his findings, 143 00:07:01,330 --> 00:07:06,703 like, "Well, all you've really shown, Picquart, is that there's another spy 144 00:07:06,727 --> 00:07:09,100 who learned how to mimic Dreyfus's handwriting, 145 00:07:09,124 --> 00:07:12,664 and he picked up the torch of spying after Dreyfus left. 146 00:07:13,148 --> 00:07:14,798 But Dreyfus is still guilty." 147 00:07:15,854 --> 00:07:18,879 Eventually, Picquart managed to get Dreyfus exonerated. 148 00:07:18,903 --> 00:07:20,431 But it took him 10 years, 149 00:07:20,455 --> 00:07:22,986 and for part of that time, he himself was in prison 150 00:07:23,010 --> 00:07:25,308 for the crime of disloyalty to the army. 151 00:07:26,491 --> 00:07:32,491 A lot of people feel like Picquart can't really be the hero of this story 152 00:07:32,515 --> 00:07:36,744 because he was an anti-Semite and that's bad, which I agree with. 153 00:07:37,323 --> 00:07:41,974 But personally, for me, the fact that Picquart was anti-Semitic 154 00:07:41,998 --> 00:07:44,583 actually makes his actions more admirable, 155 00:07:44,607 --> 00:07:47,723 because he had the same prejudices, the same reasons to be biased 156 00:07:47,747 --> 00:07:49,532 as his fellow officers, 157 00:07:49,556 --> 00:07:54,191 but his motivation to find the truth and uphold it trumped all of that. 158 00:07:55,108 --> 00:07:56,297 So to me, 159 00:07:56,321 --> 00:08:00,127 Picquart is a poster child for what I call "scout mindset." 160 00:08:00,598 --> 00:08:04,674 It's the drive not to make one idea win or another lose, 161 00:08:04,698 --> 00:08:06,622 but just to see what's really there 162 00:08:06,646 --> 00:08:09,121 as honestly and accurately as you can, 163 00:08:09,145 --> 00:08:12,425 even if it's not pretty or convenient or pleasant. 164 00:08:13,444 --> 00:08:16,690 This mindset is what I'm personally passionate about. 165 00:08:16,714 --> 00:08:21,843 And I've spent the last few years examining and trying to figure out 166 00:08:21,867 --> 00:08:23,850 what causes scout mindset. 167 00:08:23,874 --> 00:08:27,022 Why are some people, sometimes at least, 168 00:08:27,046 --> 00:08:30,834 able to cut through their own prejudices and biases and motivations 169 00:08:30,858 --> 00:08:33,153 and just try to see the facts and the evidence 170 00:08:33,177 --> 00:08:34,650 as objectively as they can? 171 00:08:35,602 --> 00:08:38,613 And the answer is emotional. 172 00:08:39,119 --> 00:08:42,886 So, just as soldier mindset is rooted in emotions 173 00:08:42,910 --> 00:08:45,898 like defensiveness or tribalism, 174 00:08:46,615 --> 00:08:47,981 scout mindset is, too. 175 00:08:48,005 --> 00:08:49,991 It's just rooted in different emotions. 176 00:08:50,015 --> 00:08:53,434 For example, scouts are curious. 177 00:08:53,458 --> 00:08:57,004 They're more likely to say they feel pleasure 178 00:08:57,028 --> 00:08:58,688 when they learn new information 179 00:08:58,712 --> 00:09:01,023 or an itch to solve a puzzle. 180 00:09:01,544 --> 00:09:04,713 They're more likely to feel intrigued when they encounter something 181 00:09:04,737 --> 00:09:06,833 that contradicts their expectations. 182 00:09:07,206 --> 00:09:09,183 Scouts also have different values. 183 00:09:09,207 --> 00:09:12,279 They're more likely to say they think it's virtuous 184 00:09:12,303 --> 00:09:13,792 to test your own beliefs, 185 00:09:13,816 --> 00:09:17,522 and they're less likely to say that someone who changes his mind 186 00:09:17,546 --> 00:09:18,808 seems weak. 187 00:09:18,832 --> 00:09:20,717 And above all, scouts are grounded, 188 00:09:20,741 --> 00:09:24,646 which means their self-worth as a person 189 00:09:24,670 --> 00:09:30,136 isn't tied to how right or wrong they are about any particular topic. 190 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,414 So they can believe that capital punishment works. 191 00:09:33,438 --> 00:09:36,251 If studies come out showing that it doesn't, they can say, 192 00:09:36,275 --> 00:09:40,184 "Huh. Looks like I might be wrong. Doesn't mean I'm bad or stupid." 193 00:09:41,954 --> 00:09:46,280 This cluster of traits is what researchers have found -- 194 00:09:46,304 --> 00:09:48,010 and I've also found anecdotally -- 195 00:09:48,034 --> 00:09:49,865 predicts good judgment. 196 00:09:50,386 --> 00:09:53,669 And the key takeaway I want to leave you with about those traits 197 00:09:53,693 --> 00:09:57,330 is that they're primarily not about how smart you are 198 00:09:57,354 --> 00:09:59,352 or about how much you know. 199 00:09:59,376 --> 00:10:02,182 In fact, they don't correlate very much with IQ at all. 200 00:10:02,638 --> 00:10:04,288 They're about how you feel. 201 00:10:04,849 --> 00:10:08,872 There's a quote that I keep coming back to, by Saint-Exupéry. 202 00:10:08,896 --> 00:10:10,837 He's the author of "The Little Prince." 203 00:10:10,861 --> 00:10:13,630 He said, "If you want to build a ship, 204 00:10:14,234 --> 00:10:18,855 don't drum up your men to collect wood and give orders 205 00:10:18,879 --> 00:10:20,299 and distribute the work. 206 00:10:20,669 --> 00:10:25,236 Instead, teach them to yearn for the vast and endless sea." 207 00:10:26,252 --> 00:10:28,398 In other words, I claim, 208 00:10:28,850 --> 00:10:32,010 if we really want to improve our judgment as individuals 209 00:10:32,034 --> 00:10:33,477 and as societies, 210 00:10:33,501 --> 00:10:37,010 what we need most is not more instruction in logic 211 00:10:37,034 --> 00:10:40,582 or rhetoric or probability or economics, 212 00:10:40,606 --> 00:10:42,689 even though those things are quite valuable. 213 00:10:42,713 --> 00:10:46,017 But what we most need to use those principles well 214 00:10:46,041 --> 00:10:47,459 is scout mindset. 215 00:10:47,483 --> 00:10:49,363 We need to change the way we feel. 216 00:10:49,759 --> 00:10:53,569 We need to learn how to feel proud instead of ashamed 217 00:10:53,593 --> 00:10:56,231 when we notice we might have been wrong about something. 218 00:10:56,255 --> 00:10:59,383 We need to learn how to feel intrigued instead of defensive 219 00:10:59,407 --> 00:11:03,650 when we encounter some information that contradicts our beliefs. 220 00:11:04,555 --> 00:11:07,415 So the question I want to leave you with is: 221 00:11:07,817 --> 00:11:09,967 What do you most yearn for? 222 00:11:10,771 --> 00:11:13,398 Do you yearn to defend your own beliefs? 223 00:11:14,128 --> 00:11:17,722 Or do you yearn to see the world as clearly as you possibly can? 224 00:11:18,352 --> 00:11:19,503 Thank you. 225 00:11:19,527 --> 00:11:24,524 (Applause)