1 00:00:00,828 --> 00:00:03,694 So I'd like you to imagine for a moment 2 00:00:03,694 --> 00:00:06,505 that you're a soldier in the heat of battle. 3 00:00:06,505 --> 00:00:10,443 Maybe you're a Roman foot soldier, or a medieval archer, 4 00:00:10,443 --> 00:00:12,434 or maybe you're a Zulu warrior. 5 00:00:12,434 --> 00:00:16,467 Regardless of your time and place, there's some things that are constant. 6 00:00:16,467 --> 00:00:18,586 Your adrenaline is elevated, 7 00:00:18,586 --> 00:00:23,420 and your actions are stemming from these deeply ingrained reflexes, 8 00:00:23,420 --> 00:00:27,775 reflexes rooted in a need to protect yourself and your side 9 00:00:27,775 --> 00:00:30,523 and to defeat the enemy. 10 00:00:30,523 --> 00:00:34,387 So now, I'd like you to imagine playing a very different role, 11 00:00:34,387 --> 00:00:36,122 that of the scout. 12 00:00:36,122 --> 00:00:39,600 So the scout's job is not to attack or defend. 13 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,345 The scout's job is to understand. 14 00:00:42,345 --> 00:00:44,318 The scout is the one going out, 15 00:00:44,318 --> 00:00:48,610 mapping the terrain, identifying potential obstacles, 16 00:00:48,610 --> 00:00:52,191 and the scout may hope to learn that, say, there's a bridge 17 00:00:52,191 --> 00:00:54,496 in a convenient location across a river. 18 00:00:54,496 --> 00:00:57,620 But above all, the scout wants to know what's really there 19 00:00:57,620 --> 00:00:59,659 as accurately as possible. 20 00:00:59,659 --> 00:01:05,265 And in a real, actual army, both the soldier and the scout are essential. 21 00:01:05,265 --> 00:01:10,874 But you can also think of each of these roles as a mindset, 22 00:01:10,874 --> 00:01:14,524 a metaphor for how all of us process information and ideas 23 00:01:14,524 --> 00:01:16,447 in our daily lives. 24 00:01:16,447 --> 00:01:20,213 And what I'm going to argue today is that having good judgment, 25 00:01:20,213 --> 00:01:23,450 making accurate predictions, making good decisions, 26 00:01:23,450 --> 00:01:26,905 is mostly about which mindset you're in. 27 00:01:26,905 --> 00:01:29,707 So to illustrate these mindsets in action, 28 00:01:29,707 --> 00:01:33,367 I'm going to take you back to 19th century France 29 00:01:33,367 --> 00:01:36,063 where this innocuous-looking piece of paper 30 00:01:36,063 --> 00:01:40,028 launched one of the biggest political scandals in history. 31 00:01:40,028 --> 00:01:44,449 It was discovered in 1894 by officers in the French general staff, 32 00:01:44,449 --> 00:01:47,540 and it was torn up in a wastepaper basket, 33 00:01:47,540 --> 00:01:49,465 but when they pieced it back together, 34 00:01:49,465 --> 00:01:51,520 they discovered that someone in their ranks 35 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,118 had been selling military secrets to Germany. 36 00:01:54,118 --> 00:01:56,781 So they launched a big investigation, 37 00:01:56,781 --> 00:02:00,810 and their suspicions quickly converged on this man, 38 00:02:00,810 --> 00:02:02,701 Alfred Dreyfus. 39 00:02:02,701 --> 00:02:04,300 He had a sterling record, 40 00:02:04,300 --> 00:02:07,847 no past history of wrongdoing, no motive as far as they could tell, 41 00:02:07,847 --> 00:02:13,339 but Dreyfus was the only Jewish officer at that rank in the Army, 42 00:02:13,339 --> 00:02:17,635 and unfortunately at this time, the French Army was highly anti-Semitic. 43 00:02:17,635 --> 00:02:20,857 So they compared Dreyfus's handwriting to that on the memo 44 00:02:20,857 --> 00:02:23,062 and concluded that it was a match, 45 00:02:23,062 --> 00:02:25,955 even though outside professional handwriting experts 46 00:02:25,955 --> 00:02:29,666 were much less confident in the similarity, but never mind that. 47 00:02:29,666 --> 00:02:33,449 They went and searched Dreyfus's apartment looking for any signs of espionage. 48 00:02:33,449 --> 00:02:35,160 They went through his files, 49 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:36,671 and they didn't find anything. 50 00:02:36,671 --> 00:02:39,584 And this just convinced them more that Dreyfus was not only guilty 51 00:02:39,584 --> 00:02:42,673 but sneaky as well, because clearly he had hidden all of the evidence 52 00:02:42,673 --> 00:02:44,778 before they had managed to get to it. 53 00:02:44,778 --> 00:02:48,197 Next, they went and looked through his personal history 54 00:02:48,197 --> 00:02:50,779 for any incriminating details. 55 00:02:50,779 --> 00:02:51,880 They talked to his teachers. 56 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,610 They found that he had studied foreign languages in school, 57 00:02:54,610 --> 00:02:59,080 which clearly showed a desire to conspire with foreign governments 58 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:00,544 later in life. 59 00:03:00,544 --> 00:03:06,007 His teachers also said that Dreyfus was known for having a good memory, 60 00:03:06,007 --> 00:03:08,436 which was highly suspicious, right? 61 00:03:08,436 --> 00:03:12,431 Because a spy has to remember a lot of things. 62 00:03:12,431 --> 00:03:16,115 So the case went to trial, and Dreyfus was found guilty, 63 00:03:16,115 --> 00:03:20,160 and afterwards, they took him out into this public square 64 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:23,908 and ritualistically tore his insignia from his uniform 65 00:03:23,908 --> 00:03:26,037 and broke his sword in two. 66 00:03:26,037 --> 00:03:28,710 This was called the Degradation of Dreyfus. 67 00:03:28,710 --> 00:03:31,554 And they sentenced him to life imprisonment 68 00:03:31,554 --> 00:03:34,447 on the aptly named Devil's Island, 69 00:03:34,447 --> 00:03:37,556 which is this barren rock off the coast of South America. 70 00:03:37,556 --> 00:03:41,141 So there he went, and there he spent his days alone, 71 00:03:41,141 --> 00:03:44,050 writing letters and letters to the French government 72 00:03:44,050 --> 00:03:47,751 begging them to reopen his case so they could discover his innocence. 73 00:03:47,751 --> 00:03:51,499 But for the most part, France considered the matter closed. 74 00:03:51,499 --> 00:03:55,857 So one thing that's really interesting to me about the Dreyfus Affair 75 00:03:55,857 --> 00:03:59,556 is this question of why the officers were so convinced 76 00:03:59,556 --> 00:04:01,628 that Dreyfus was guilty. 77 00:04:01,628 --> 00:04:04,356 I mean, you might even assume that they were setting him up, 78 00:04:04,356 --> 00:04:06,067 that they were intentionally framing him. 79 00:04:06,067 --> 00:04:08,238 But historians don't think that's what happened. 80 00:04:08,238 --> 00:04:11,444 As far as we can tell, the officers genuinely believed 81 00:04:11,444 --> 00:04:13,598 that the case against Dreyfus was strong, 82 00:04:13,598 --> 00:04:18,629 which makes you wonder, what does it say about the human mind 83 00:04:18,629 --> 00:04:20,964 that we can find such paltry evidence 84 00:04:20,964 --> 00:04:24,105 to be compelling enough to convict a man? 85 00:04:24,105 --> 00:04:28,757 Well, this is a case of what scientists call "motivated reasoning." 86 00:04:28,757 --> 00:04:31,850 It's this phenomenon in which our unconscious motivations, 87 00:04:31,850 --> 00:04:34,133 our desires and fears, 88 00:04:34,133 --> 00:04:36,502 shape the way we interpret information. 89 00:04:36,502 --> 00:04:40,006 So some information, some ideas, feel like our allies. 90 00:04:40,006 --> 00:04:42,735 We want them to win. We want to defend them. 91 00:04:42,735 --> 00:04:45,168 And other information and ideas are the enemy, 92 00:04:45,168 --> 00:04:47,026 and we want to shoot them down. 93 00:04:47,026 --> 00:04:49,939 So this is why I call motivated reasoning 94 00:04:49,939 --> 00:04:51,580 "soldier mindset." 95 00:04:51,580 --> 00:04:55,017 And probably most of you have never persecuted 96 00:04:55,017 --> 00:04:57,401 a French-Jewish officer for high treason, 97 00:04:57,401 --> 00:04:58,897 I assume, 98 00:04:58,897 --> 00:05:03,994 but maybe you've followed sports, or politics, so you might have noticed 99 00:05:03,994 --> 00:05:08,040 that when the referee judges that your team committed a foul, 100 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:09,204 for example, 101 00:05:09,204 --> 00:05:12,480 you're highly motivated to find reasons why he's wrong. 102 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,797 But if he judges that the other team committed a foul, 103 00:05:14,797 --> 00:05:18,037 awesome, that's a good call, let's not examine it too closely. 104 00:05:18,037 --> 00:05:22,149 Or maybe you've read an article or a study that's examined 105 00:05:22,149 --> 00:05:25,238 some controversial policy, like capital punishment, 106 00:05:25,238 --> 00:05:27,645 and as researchers have demonstrated, 107 00:05:27,645 --> 00:05:29,773 if you support capital punishment 108 00:05:29,773 --> 00:05:32,194 and the study shows that it's not effective, 109 00:05:32,194 --> 00:05:35,415 then you're highly motivated to find all the reasons 110 00:05:35,415 --> 00:05:37,850 why the study was poorly designed. 111 00:05:37,850 --> 00:05:39,772 But if it shows that capital punishment works, 112 00:05:39,772 --> 00:05:41,025 awesome, it's a good study. 113 00:05:41,025 --> 00:05:44,049 And vice versa. If you don't support capital punishment, same thing. 114 00:05:44,049 --> 00:05:48,242 Our judgment is just strongly influenced unconsciously by which side 115 00:05:48,242 --> 00:05:50,527 we want to win. 116 00:05:50,527 --> 00:05:51,811 And this is ubiquitous. 117 00:05:51,811 --> 00:05:55,046 It shapes how we think about our health, our relationships, 118 00:05:55,046 --> 00:05:57,021 how we decide how to vote, 119 00:05:57,021 --> 00:05:59,358 what we consider fair or ethical. 120 00:05:59,358 --> 00:06:01,692 And what's most scary to me 121 00:06:01,692 --> 00:06:03,764 about motivated reasoning, or soldier mindset, 122 00:06:03,764 --> 00:06:05,507 is how unconscious it is. 123 00:06:05,507 --> 00:06:08,680 We can think we're being objective and fair-minded, 124 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:12,906 and still wind up ruining the life of an innocent man. 125 00:06:12,906 --> 00:06:15,915 However, fortunately for Dreyfus, his story is not over. 126 00:06:15,915 --> 00:06:17,740 This is Colonel Picquart. 127 00:06:17,740 --> 00:06:20,042 He's another high-ranking officer in the French Army, 128 00:06:20,042 --> 00:06:22,424 and like most people, he assumed Dreyfus was guilty. 129 00:06:22,424 --> 00:06:27,342 Also, like most people in the Army, he was at least casually anti-Semitic. 130 00:06:27,342 --> 00:06:29,102 But at a certain point, 131 00:06:29,102 --> 00:06:30,976 Picquart began to suspect, 132 00:06:30,976 --> 00:06:34,560 uh, what if we were all wrong about Dreyfus. 133 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,915 And what happened was he had discovered evidence that the spying for Germany 134 00:06:37,915 --> 00:06:41,516 had continued even after Dreyfus was in prison. 135 00:06:41,516 --> 00:06:44,836 And he had also discovered that another officer in the Army 136 00:06:44,836 --> 00:06:47,764 had handwriting that perfectly matched the memo, 137 00:06:47,764 --> 00:06:50,297 much closer than Dreyfus's handwriting. 138 00:06:50,297 --> 00:06:52,959 So he brought these discoveries to his superiors, 139 00:06:52,959 --> 00:06:55,473 but to his dismay, 140 00:06:55,473 --> 00:06:57,579 they either didn't care 141 00:06:57,579 --> 00:07:01,543 or came up with elaborate rationalizations to explain his findings, 142 00:07:01,543 --> 00:07:06,811 like, well, all you've really shown, Picquart, is that there's another spy 143 00:07:06,811 --> 00:07:09,205 who learned how to mimic Dreyfus's handwriting, 144 00:07:09,205 --> 00:07:13,299 and he picked up the torch of spying after Dreyfus left, 145 00:07:13,299 --> 00:07:15,389 but Dreyfus is still guilty. 146 00:07:15,389 --> 00:07:19,056 Eventually, Picquart managed to get Dreyfus exonerated, 147 00:07:19,056 --> 00:07:20,684 but it took him 10 years, 148 00:07:20,684 --> 00:07:22,783 and for part of that time, he himself was in prison 149 00:07:22,783 --> 00:07:26,221 for the crime of disloyalty to the Army. 150 00:07:26,221 --> 00:07:31,386 So a lot of people feel like Picquart can't really be the hero 151 00:07:31,386 --> 00:07:32,716 of this story 152 00:07:32,716 --> 00:07:37,216 because he was an anti-Semite, and that's bad, which I agree with. 153 00:07:37,216 --> 00:07:39,443 But personally, for me, 154 00:07:39,443 --> 00:07:41,713 the fact that Picquart was anti-Semitic 155 00:07:41,713 --> 00:07:44,607 actually makes his actions more admirable, 156 00:07:44,607 --> 00:07:47,813 because he had the same prejudices, the same reasons to be biased 157 00:07:47,813 --> 00:07:49,375 as his fellow officers, 158 00:07:49,375 --> 00:07:54,652 but his motivations to find the truth and uphold it just trumped all of that. 159 00:07:54,652 --> 00:07:56,321 So to me, 160 00:07:56,321 --> 00:08:00,369 Picquart is a poster child for what I call "scout mindset." 161 00:08:00,369 --> 00:08:04,570 It's the drive not to make one idea win or another lose, 162 00:08:04,570 --> 00:08:06,646 but just to see what's really there 163 00:08:06,646 --> 00:08:09,633 as honestly and accurately as you can, 164 00:08:09,633 --> 00:08:12,937 even if it's not pretty or convenient or pleasant. 165 00:08:12,937 --> 00:08:16,341 And this mindset is what I'm personally passionate about, 166 00:08:16,341 --> 00:08:22,227 and what I've spent the last few years examining and trying to figure out 167 00:08:22,227 --> 00:08:24,020 what causes scout mindset. 168 00:08:24,020 --> 00:08:27,045 Why are some people, sometimes at least, 169 00:08:27,045 --> 00:08:31,008 able to cut through their own prejudices and biases and motivations 170 00:08:31,008 --> 00:08:33,177 and just try to see the facts and the evidence 171 00:08:33,177 --> 00:08:34,919 as objectively as they can? 172 00:08:34,919 --> 00:08:38,637 And the answer is emotional. 173 00:08:38,637 --> 00:08:42,074 So just as soldier mindset is rooted in emotions 174 00:08:42,074 --> 00:08:45,922 like defensiveness or tribalism, 175 00:08:45,922 --> 00:08:48,178 scout mindset is too. 176 00:08:48,178 --> 00:08:50,131 It's just rooted in different emotions. 177 00:08:50,131 --> 00:08:53,403 So for example, scouts are curious. 178 00:08:53,403 --> 00:08:56,904 They're more likely to say that they feel pleasure 179 00:08:56,904 --> 00:08:58,829 when they learn new information 180 00:08:58,829 --> 00:09:01,164 or an itch to solve a puzzle. 181 00:09:01,164 --> 00:09:04,737 They're more likely to feel intrigued when they encounter something 182 00:09:04,737 --> 00:09:07,467 that contradicts their expectations. 183 00:09:07,467 --> 00:09:09,457 Scouts also have different values. 184 00:09:09,457 --> 00:09:12,303 They're more likely to say that they think it's virtuous 185 00:09:12,303 --> 00:09:14,027 to test your own beliefs, 186 00:09:14,027 --> 00:09:17,626 and they're less likely to say that someone who changes his mind 187 00:09:17,626 --> 00:09:19,169 seems weak. 188 00:09:19,169 --> 00:09:21,440 And above all, scouts are grounded, 189 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,070 which means that 190 00:09:23,070 --> 00:09:27,722 their self-worth as a person isn't tied to how right or wrong 191 00:09:27,722 --> 00:09:30,322 they are about any particular topic. 192 00:09:30,322 --> 00:09:33,117 So they can believe that capital punishment works, 193 00:09:33,117 --> 00:09:35,535 and if studies come out showing that it doesn't, 194 00:09:35,535 --> 00:09:37,984 they can say, "Huh, looks like I might be wrong. 195 00:09:37,984 --> 00:09:40,467 Doesn't mean I'm bad or stupid." 196 00:09:40,467 --> 00:09:44,266 So these traits, this cluster of traits 197 00:09:44,266 --> 00:09:46,188 is what researchers have found, 198 00:09:46,188 --> 00:09:50,283 and I've also found anecdotally, predicts good judgment. 199 00:09:50,283 --> 00:09:53,950 And the key takeaway I want to leave you with about those traits 200 00:09:53,950 --> 00:09:57,354 is that they're primarily not about how smart you are 201 00:09:57,354 --> 00:09:59,489 or about how much you know. 202 00:09:59,489 --> 00:10:02,187 In fact, they don't correlate very much with IQ at all. 203 00:10:02,187 --> 00:10:05,081 They're about how you feel. 204 00:10:05,081 --> 00:10:07,401 So there's a quote that I keep coming back to 205 00:10:07,401 --> 00:10:08,929 by Saint-Exupéry. 206 00:10:08,929 --> 00:10:11,100 He's the author of "The Little Prince." 207 00:10:11,100 --> 00:10:14,075 And he said, "If you want to build a ship, 208 00:10:14,075 --> 00:10:15,767 don't drum up your men 209 00:10:15,767 --> 00:10:19,157 to collect wood and give orders 210 00:10:19,157 --> 00:10:20,669 and distribute the work. 211 00:10:20,669 --> 00:10:26,507 Instead, teach them to yearn for the vast and endless sea." 212 00:10:26,507 --> 00:10:28,496 In other words, I claim, 213 00:10:28,496 --> 00:10:32,048 if we really want to improve our judgment as individuals 214 00:10:32,048 --> 00:10:33,578 and as societies, 215 00:10:33,578 --> 00:10:38,575 what we need most is not more instruction in logic or rhetoric 216 00:10:38,575 --> 00:10:40,878 or probability or economics, 217 00:10:40,878 --> 00:10:42,818 even though those things are quite valuable. 218 00:10:42,818 --> 00:10:46,041 But what we most need to use those principles well 219 00:10:46,041 --> 00:10:47,637 is scout mindset. 220 00:10:47,637 --> 00:10:49,609 We need to change the way we feel. 221 00:10:49,609 --> 00:10:53,529 We need to learn how to feel proud instead of ashamed 222 00:10:53,529 --> 00:10:56,094 when we notice we might have been wrong about something. 223 00:10:56,094 --> 00:10:59,628 We need to learn how to feel intrigued instead of defensive 224 00:10:59,628 --> 00:11:04,611 when we encounter some information that contradicts our beliefs. 225 00:11:04,611 --> 00:11:07,439 So the question I want to leave you with is, 226 00:11:07,439 --> 00:11:10,481 what do you most yearn for? 227 00:11:10,481 --> 00:11:13,787 Do you yearn to defend your own beliefs? 228 00:11:13,787 --> 00:11:18,471 Or do you yearn to see the world as clearly as you possibly can? 229 00:11:18,471 --> 00:11:20,265 Thank you. 230 00:11:20,265 --> 00:11:24,518 (Applause)