1 00:00:34,155 --> 00:00:37,095 مرحبًا، بالجميع! أقدّم لحضراتكم برنامجي الحواريّ المتواضع. 2 00:00:37,095 --> 00:00:40,045 للأناس الذين يلهومونني، 3 00:00:40,045 --> 00:00:42,975 والذين يحفزونني على القيام بشيء. 4 00:00:43,125 --> 00:00:46,085 لذا، ضيفتنا اليوم، 5 00:00:46,085 --> 00:00:47,825 (كيكي فبريانتي). 6 00:00:48,765 --> 00:00:52,045 صانعة أفلام مستقلة من إندونيسيا. 7 00:00:52,185 --> 00:00:54,555 مرحبًا، (كيكي)! كيف حالكِ؟ 8 00:00:55,125 --> 00:00:56,805 مرحبًا، أنا بخير، كيف حالكِ؟ 9 00:00:56,805 --> 00:00:57,935 أنا بخير أيضًا. 10 00:00:57,935 --> 00:00:59,895 أنا على خير ما يرام، شكرًا جزيلاً! 11 00:00:59,895 --> 00:01:02,475 شكرًا جزيلاً لكِ على انضمامكِ لي اليوم. 12 00:01:02,685 --> 00:01:05,905 أعتقد أنه من المهم جدًا إجراء هذه المحادثة 13 00:01:05,905 --> 00:01:08,155 لأنني أريد الجمهور 14 00:01:08,155 --> 00:01:10,815 أن يعرف أسلوبكِ ودربكِ. 15 00:01:11,135 --> 00:01:14,015 وأودّ أن أسألكِ أيضًا، 16 00:01:14,015 --> 00:01:17,135 ماذا يعني أن تكون صانع أفلام مستقل؟ 17 00:01:17,135 --> 00:01:20,535 اليوم في هذا العصر، في هذه الفترة. 18 00:01:20,545 --> 00:01:23,075 لكن لنبدأ من البداية. 19 00:01:23,075 --> 00:01:26,055 ربما يمكنكِ أن تخبرينا بالقليل، 20 00:01:26,055 --> 00:01:28,955 ما الذي استحثّ اهتمامكِ في صناعة الأفلام؟ 21 00:01:28,955 --> 00:01:30,345 كيف بدأتِ؟ 22 00:01:31,375 --> 00:01:33,245 إنها قصة طويلة. 23 00:01:33,665 --> 00:01:36,725 لكن لنختصرها. 24 00:01:36,725 --> 00:01:39,745 لأنّه لابد أن أعود إلى طفولتي. 25 00:01:40,345 --> 00:01:43,005 لذا، في البداية، 26 00:01:43,705 --> 00:01:46,445 في البداية، كنتُ مُلهَمة 27 00:01:46,445 --> 00:01:49,835 بصديق جَدّيّ المفضل، 28 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,640 وكان مُصوّرًا صحافيًّا. 29 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:57,995 كان يُظهِر لي أعماله غالبًا، 30 00:01:57,995 --> 00:02:00,525 وبعدها كنت أفكر بالأمر، حسنًا 31 00:02:00,525 --> 00:02:03,500 سأصبح مُصوّرة صحافية أيضًا. 32 00:02:03,500 --> 00:02:05,740 مثله تمامًا. 33 00:02:06,900 --> 00:02:10,140 كما أحبّت عائلتي أيضًا مشاهدة الأفلام. 34 00:02:10,215 --> 00:02:13,095 ووالديّ 35 00:02:13,095 --> 00:02:15,925 جدتي وأبواي 36 00:02:15,925 --> 00:02:17,905 كانوا يصطحبوني في أحيان كثيرة 37 00:02:18,305 --> 00:02:20,745 لمشاهدة الأفلام في السينما. 38 00:02:21,305 --> 00:02:23,645 على مقربة من منزلي. 39 00:02:23,645 --> 00:02:27,145 كنا نسير لمدة 5 دقائق للوصول إلى هناك. 40 00:02:27,955 --> 00:02:28,955 وبعدها، 41 00:02:29,405 --> 00:02:31,255 أعتقد 42 00:02:31,605 --> 00:02:34,325 أن الشخص الذي كان يعمل عامل نظافة هناك 43 00:02:34,325 --> 00:02:37,135 اعتاد... 44 00:02:37,135 --> 00:02:40,415 اعتاد عليّ 45 00:02:40,565 --> 00:02:43,795 كما يحدث في السينما، لذا 46 00:02:43,795 --> 00:02:46,875 عادةً قبل أن تفتح السينما أبوابها 47 00:02:47,175 --> 00:02:49,555 كان يدعوني 48 00:02:49,555 --> 00:02:51,375 للعب في الداخل. 49 00:02:53,665 --> 00:02:56,765 فقط لإلقاء نظرة على مُلصقات 50 00:02:56,765 --> 00:02:58,765 الأفلام 51 00:02:58,765 --> 00:03:00,135 والجلوس فحسب 52 00:03:00,135 --> 00:03:03,255 في داخل السينما قبل 53 00:03:03,935 --> 00:03:05,145 أن يأتي 54 00:03:06,408 --> 00:03:08,289 - مُتفرّج آخر. - نعم. 55 00:03:08,841 --> 00:03:11,770 لهذا كنتُ شغوفة بالأفلام. 56 00:03:12,708 --> 00:03:14,828 إذا، بدأ الأمر منذ نعومة أظافركِ 57 00:03:15,386 --> 00:03:16,833 - عندما كنتِ طفلة. - نعم 58 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,240 وفي عام 2008 59 00:03:21,245 --> 00:03:23,665 عندما كنت في الجامعة 60 00:03:23,665 --> 00:03:26,765 انعقدت ورشة عمل لصناعة الأفلام الوثائقية. 61 00:03:29,675 --> 00:03:32,095 أتوا إلى جامعتي في "جيمبر" 62 00:03:32,095 --> 00:03:33,615 - جاوة الشرقية؟ - جاوة الشرقية؟ - نعم 63 00:03:33,615 --> 00:03:35,135 وبعدها 64 00:03:35,135 --> 00:03:36,225 حاولت الالتحاق بهذا الحدث 65 00:03:36,705 --> 00:03:39,735 وحينها وقع عليّ الاختيار 66 00:03:39,735 --> 00:03:41,975 وقع الاختيار على قصتي 67 00:03:41,975 --> 00:03:44,705 للحصول على منحة دراسية 68 00:03:44,705 --> 00:03:47,765 69 00:03:47,765 --> 00:03:48,765 وهكذا بدأت مجال صناعة الأفلام 70 00:03:48,965 --> 00:03:51,495 71 00:03:51,495 --> 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