1 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 (upbeat music) 2 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 ANDREA ZITTEL: Painting and sculpture, 3 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 they're forms of representation. 4 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 In some way, these are all attempts to 5 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 talk about my own subjective 6 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 interpretation of the world, 7 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and to also do something that will relate 8 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to other people's experiences within it. 9 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I grew up in very suburban southern 10 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 California. 11 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I think my parents had this fantasy about 12 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 building a country home in the middle of 13 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 nowhere. So my dad built our home on the 14 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 edge of a mountain. By the time I was in 15 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 high school, it was completely built up, 16 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 it was suburbia. It was only after I moved 17 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to New York that I realized what a gift it 18 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 was to come from someplace so normal. 19 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I moved to New York in 1990, and the first 20 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 place I lived in was this really tiny 21 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 storefront, also in Brooklyn. At that time 22 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I was doing really different work. I was 23 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 actually working with animals and breeding 24 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 them. For instance, a breeding unit, not 25 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 only would it influence the way that the 26 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 animal would develop, but it would also 27 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 have everything built into it that the 28 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 animal would need for living. So you know, 29 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 after doing this work and living in this 30 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 tiny space for a while, I think that it 31 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 started to make perfect sense to try and 32 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 create structures like that for myself to 33 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 live in. The living unit was meant to 34 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 function for every single thing that I 35 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 needed. You know, I didn't have a shower 36 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 or a bathtub, so it had this large plastic 37 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 sink that I could take baths in as well as 38 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 wash my dishes in. It had a built-in 39 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 kitchen area, it had a desk area, it had 40 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 a sleeping area. It was sort of like 41 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 building a house, just something I could 42 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 own, and would be permanent and it would 43 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 just go inside of the houses that other 44 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 people would own. I literally believed 45 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that when I made that piece and I had it 46 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 completely perfected. That it would solve 47 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 all of my problems, you know? And it was 48 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 this really wonderful period of my life of 49 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 feeling like I was moving towards this 50 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 concrete direction. And the irony is that 51 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 when I finally finished the living unit 52 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and it was perfect there was nothing left 53 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to do to it, I felt completely despondent 54 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and very sort of, like, listless, and 55 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 depressed. And at that point in sort of 56 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 gauging my own reaction I had this 57 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 revelation that no one really wants 58 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 perfection. We're obsessed with perfection 59 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 we're obsessed with innovation and moving 60 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 forwards, but what we really want is the 61 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 hope of some sort of new and improved or 62 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 better tomorrow. I think that my work's 63 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 always been influenced by the places that 64 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I've lived in. In fact, if you look at 65 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 every body of work, you can trace it back 66 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to particular circumstances that I've had 67 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to deal with. Well, I mean, the kitchen is 68 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 a good stop, sort of, on the A-Z tour 69 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 because what I said about the kitchen and 70 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 how I used the kitchen. Andrea is not a 71 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 cook, right? Which is really obvious 72 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 because she's got a teeny, tiny 73 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 refrigerator and- my chicken lived in the 74 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 kitchen. And her chicken lived in the 75 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 kitchen. But you have this huge table in 76 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the presentation room which facilitates 77 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 big dinner parties. We did stay strict to 78 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Andrea's, you know, sort of utilitarian 79 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 bowl system of the small, medium, and 80 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 large bowls. –So you just used bowls for 81 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 your dinner parties? There were times 82 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 when we just used-–I've always wondered 83 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 if you cheated. - Oh, yeah. I think it's a 84 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 really nice thing to talk about, is this 85 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 floor. I always felt it was this modernism 86 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 put into a domestic framework. One of the 87 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 things, too, that I wanted to do with 88 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 this house was to sort of reflect the 89 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 earlier generations of modernism. 90 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I usually point to the outside, because that's really one of 91 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the most beautiful parts of the house. 92 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Particularly a garden in Brooklyn. 93 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 The bathroom at the A-Z, Andrea's house, is the tour de force of the house. 94 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It's sort of the epitome of organization, comfort, and utility. 95 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I mean, the floor is really particular in that Andrea hand-laid every tile, right? 96 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Painstakingly. 97 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Well, they come in square foot sections, but I did that by myself. 98 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And then you'll notice that the medicine cabinets, instead of throwing all 99 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 of your stuff under the sink abyss, 100 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 is organized in "Correction," "Tools and implements," 101 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 "Subtraction," and "Addition." 102 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And "Addition" is sort of obvious things of – 103 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 cosmetics, skin lotion, deodorant. And "Subtraction"? 104 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Is things for cleansing and taking away. 105 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And then everything on top is organized, labeled accordingly. 106 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 That's sort of it for the bathroom, huh? 107 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 For nine years I've been doing the uniform project, 108 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 where I have one garment that I'll wear for a season. 109 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Originally it was for a six-month season, now it's for a four-month season. 110 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Oh, this is a really good one. This is from last spring. And it's rayon. 111 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 They kind of get worn out and tattered by the end, 112 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 after wearing them for four months. It started because I had an office job 113 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and I was supposed to wear something respectable to work 114 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 but I didn't have that much money. Sort of colorful spring dress. 115 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 You know, most of the time, we can afford, like, one fabulous outfit 116 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that you really love to wear. But there's some sort of social stigma 117 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 against wearing the same thing two days in a row. 118 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So I decided that, you know, in my case, actually, like, 119 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 variety seemed more oppressive or restrictive than continuity. 120 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So this is basically your standard personal panel. 121 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 For several years, I could wear anything, as long as it was made out of a rectangle.