[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:37.32,0:00:40.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ANDREA ZITTEL: Painting and sculpture, they're \Nforms of representation. Dialogue: 0,0:00:41.52,0:00:46.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't think that anything that \NI do is so dissimilar from that. Dialogue: 0,0:00:47.68,0:00:51.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In some way, these are all attempts to talk about Dialogue: 0,0:00:51.48,0:00:54.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my own subjective interpretation of the world, Dialogue: 0,0:00:54.32,0:00:59.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to also do something that will relate \Nto other people's experiences within it. Dialogue: 0,0:01:03.72,0:01:06.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I grew up in very suburban southern California. Dialogue: 0,0:01:07.40,0:01:09.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think my parents had this fantasy Dialogue: 0,0:01:09.16,0:01:12.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about building a country home \Nin the middle of nowhere. Dialogue: 0,0:01:12.00,0:01:15.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So my dad built our home \Non the edge of a mountain. Dialogue: 0,0:01:15.68,0:01:19.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,By the time I was in high school, it was \Ncompletely built up, it was suburbia. Dialogue: 0,0:01:20.56,0:01:24.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was only after I moved to New York \Nthat I realized what a gift it was Dialogue: 0,0:01:24.72,0:01:26.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to come from someplace so normal. Dialogue: 0,0:01:28.16,0:01:32.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I moved to New York in 1990, \Nand the first place I lived in Dialogue: 0,0:01:32.64,0:01:35.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was this really tiny storefront, also in Brooklyn. Dialogue: 0,0:01:35.84,0:01:38.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At that time I was doing really different work. Dialogue: 0,0:01:38.00,0:01:40.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was actually working with \Nanimals and breeding them. Dialogue: 0,0:01:41.56,0:01:44.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For instance, a breeding unit, \Nnot only would it influence Dialogue: 0,0:01:44.76,0:01:46.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the way that the animal would develop, Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.80,0:01:50.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it would also have everything built into \Nit that the animal would need for living. Dialogue: 0,0:01:50.96,0:01:57.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, you know, after doing this work and \Nliving in this tiny space for a while, Dialogue: 0,0:01:57.24,0:02:01.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that it started to make perfect sense to Dialogue: 0,0:02:01.88,0:02:05.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,try and create structures like \Nthat for myself to live in. Dialogue: 0,0:02:05.80,0:02:09.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The living unit was meant to function \Nfor every single thing that I needed. Dialogue: 0,0:02:09.60,0:02:13.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, I didn't have a shower or \Nbathtub, so it had this large plastic sink Dialogue: 0,0:02:13.96,0:02:17.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I could take baths in \Nas well as wash my dishes in. Dialogue: 0,0:02:17.16,0:02:21.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It had a built-in kitchen area, it had \Na desk area, it had a sleeping area. Dialogue: 0,0:02:21.72,0:02:24.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was sort of like building a house, \Njust something that I could own Dialogue: 0,0:02:24.64,0:02:26.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and would be permanent and it would just go inside Dialogue: 0,0:02:26.97,0:02:28.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the houses that other people would own. Dialogue: 0,0:02:30.08,0:02:33.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I literally believed that when I made that piece Dialogue: 0,0:02:33.08,0:02:34.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I had it completely perfected Dialogue: 0,0:02:34.88,0:02:37.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That it would solve all of my problems, you know? Dialogue: 0,0:02:37.60,0:02:41.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it was this really wonderful \Nperiod in my life of feeling like Dialogue: 0,0:02:41.08,0:02:44.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was moving towards this concrete direction. Dialogue: 0,0:02:44.68,0:02:49.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the irony is that when I \Nfinally finished the living unit Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.36,0:02:52.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it was perfect and there \Nwas nothing left to do to it, Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.04,0:02:59.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I felt completely despondent and very \Nsort of, like, listless and depressed. Dialogue: 0,0:02:59.04,0:03:03.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And at that point, in sort \Nof gauging my own reaction, Dialogue: 0,0:03:03.44,0:03:06.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had this revelation that no \None really wants perfection. Dialogue: 0,0:03:06.44,0:03:08.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're obsessed with perfection, Dialogue: 0,0:03:08.40,0:03:11.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we're obsessed with innovation \Nand moving forwards, Dialogue: 0,0:03:11.60,0:03:14.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but what we really want is the hope of some sort Dialogue: 0,0:03:14.76,0:03:18.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of new and improved or better tomorrow. Dialogue: 0,0:03:21.21,0:03:26.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that my work's always been really \Ninfluenced by the places that I've lived in. Dialogue: 0,0:03:31.24,0:03:34.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In fact, if you look at every body \Nof work, you can trace it back to Dialogue: 0,0:03:34.48,0:03:37.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,particular circumstances \Nthat I've had to deal with. Dialogue: 0,0:03:41.04,0:03:45.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, I mean, the kitchen is a \Ngood stop, sort of, on the A-Z tour Dialogue: 0,0:03:45.92,0:03:50.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because what I said about the \Nkitchen and how I used the kitchen. Dialogue: 0,0:03:50.16,0:03:54.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Andrea is not a cook, right? Dialogue: 0,0:03:54.24,0:03:58.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Which is really obvious because she's \Ngot a teeny, tiny refrigerator and – Dialogue: 0,0:03:58.36,0:03:59.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my chicken lived in the kitchen. Dialogue: 0,0:03:59.72,0:04:01.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And her chicken lived in the kitchen. Dialogue: 0,0:04:01.32,0:04:05.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But you have this huge table \Nin the presentation room Dialogue: 0,0:04:05.20,0:04:07.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which facilitates big dinner parties. Dialogue: 0,0:04:07.76,0:04:11.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we did stay strict to Andrea's, you know, Dialogue: 0,0:04:11.92,0:04:16.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sort of utilitarian bowl system of \Nthe small, medium, and large bowls. Dialogue: 0,0:04:16.92,0:04:18.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,–So you just used bowls for your dinner parties? Dialogue: 0,0:04:18.88,0:04:20.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There were times when we just used – Dialogue: 0,0:04:20.72,0:04:22.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,–I've always wondered if you cheated. Dialogue: 0,0:04:22.44,0:04:24.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,–Oh, yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:04:24.04,0:04:27.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think it's a really nice thing \Nto talk about, is this floor. Dialogue: 0,0:04:27.92,0:04:33.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I always felt it was this modernism \Nput into a domestic framework. Dialogue: 0,0:04:33.52,0:04:34.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One of the things, too, Dialogue: 0,0:04:34.48,0:04:37.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I wanted to do with this house was to sort of Dialogue: 0,0:04:37.92,0:04:41.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reflect the earlier generations of modernism. Dialogue: 0,0:04:41.12,0:04:44.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I usually point to the outside, \Nbecause that's really one of Dialogue: 0,0:04:44.00,0:04:46.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the most beautiful parts of the house. Dialogue: 0,0:04:46.08,0:04:48.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Particularly a garden in Brooklyn. Dialogue: 0,0:04:53.84,0:04:56.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The bathroom at the A-Z, Andrea's house, Dialogue: 0,0:04:56.92,0:05:00.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is the tour de force of the house. Dialogue: 0,0:05:00.12,0:05:03.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's sort of the epitome of \Norganization, comfort, and utility. Dialogue: 0,0:05:03.92,0:05:10.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, the floor is really particular in \Nthat Andrea hand-laid every tile, right? Dialogue: 0,0:05:10.56,0:05:11.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Painstakingly. Dialogue: 0,0:05:11.22,0:05:14.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, they come in square foot \Nsections, but I did that by myself. Dialogue: 0,0:05:14.88,0:05:18.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then you'll notice that the medicine \Ncabinets, instead of throwing all of your stuff Dialogue: 0,0:05:18.88,0:05:20.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,under the sink abyss, Dialogue: 0,0:05:20.76,0:05:24.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is organized in "Correction," \N"Tools and implements," Dialogue: 0,0:05:24.40,0:05:26.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Subtraction," and "Addition." Dialogue: 0,0:05:26.28,0:05:29.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And "Addition" is sort of obvious things of – Dialogue: 0,0:05:29.88,0:05:32.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cosmetics, skin lotion, deodorant. Dialogue: 0,0:05:32.88,0:05:34.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And "Subtraction"? Dialogue: 0,0:05:34.32,0:05:37.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is things for cleansing and taking away. Dialogue: 0,0:05:37.76,0:05:41.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then everything on top is \Norganized, labeled accordingly. Dialogue: 0,0:05:42.81,0:05:45.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's sort of it for the bathroom, huh? Dialogue: 0,0:05:45.48,0:05:49.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For nine years I've been \Ndoing the uniform project, Dialogue: 0,0:05:49.68,0:05:52.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where I have one garment \Nthat I'll wear for a season. Dialogue: 0,0:05:52.88,0:05:55.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Originally it was for a six-month season, Dialogue: 0,0:05:55.36,0:05:57.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,now it's for a four-month season. Dialogue: 0,0:05:58.52,0:05:59.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh, this is a really good one. Dialogue: 0,0:05:59.68,0:06:02.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is from last spring. Dialogue: 0,0:06:02.48,0:06:05.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's rayon. Dialogue: 0,0:06:07.68,0:06:10.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They kind of get worn out and tattered by the end, Dialogue: 0,0:06:10.68,0:06:12.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after wearing them for four months. Dialogue: 0,0:06:14.80,0:06:17.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It started because I had an office job Dialogue: 0,0:06:17.16,0:06:20.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I was supposed to wear \Nsomething respectable to work Dialogue: 0,0:06:20.64,0:06:22.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I didn't have that much money. Dialogue: 0,0:06:22.40,0:06:25.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sort of colorful spring dress. Dialogue: 0,0:06:25.68,0:06:29.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, most of the time, we can \Nafford, like, one fabulous outfit Dialogue: 0,0:06:29.16,0:06:30.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you really love to wear. Dialogue: 0,0:06:30.88,0:06:34.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But there's some sort of social stigma Dialogue: 0,0:06:34.96,0:06:38.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,against wearing the same thing two days in a row. Dialogue: 0,0:06:38.48,0:06:41.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I decided that, you know, \Nin my case, actually, like, Dialogue: 0,0:06:41.84,0:06:46.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,variety seemed more oppressive \Nor restrictive than continuity. Dialogue: 0,0:06:47.08,0:06:51.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this is basically your standard personal panel. Dialogue: 0,0:06:51.52,0:06:53.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For several years, I could wear anything, Dialogue: 0,0:06:53.56,0:06:55.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as long as it was made out of a rectangle. Dialogue: 0,0:06:55.28,0:07:00.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It ties in the back, and \Nthe top ties behind my neck. Dialogue: 0,0:07:00.40,0:07:04.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Russian constructivists made \Nclothing that was very geometric. Dialogue: 0,0:07:04.40,0:07:07.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They felt like when you weave \Nfabric, it's in a rectangle. Dialogue: 0,0:07:07.84,0:07:11.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So when you actually take that \Nrectangle and cut it into other shapes Dialogue: 0,0:07:11.72,0:07:14.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then sew it into even different shapes, Dialogue: 0,0:07:14.28,0:07:17.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you're completely ruining \Nthe integrity of the fabric. Dialogue: 0,0:07:17.72,0:07:22.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I thought I would just take it and for \Nfun push it to its furthest extreme, Dialogue: 0,0:07:22.20,0:07:24.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which was making garments only from rectangles. Dialogue: 0,0:07:24.80,0:07:31.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But with just some subtle changes, you have this \Nhuge array of, you know, kind of references. Dialogue: 0,0:07:33.52,0:07:37.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,After a while, I got sort of tired \Nof wearing rectangles all the time. Dialogue: 0,0:07:37.84,0:07:40.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But keeping within that set of parameters, Dialogue: 0,0:07:40.84,0:07:43.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the only thing that I could \Nthink of that would be like Dialogue: 0,0:07:43.28,0:07:46.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a first-hand form of creating something, Dialogue: 0,0:07:46.08,0:07:49.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where you're not making one thing \Nand changing it into something else, Dialogue: 0,0:07:49.20,0:07:51.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was making something from a strand. Dialogue: 0,0:07:51.68,0:07:55.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that's why I've been crocheting my dresses now. Dialogue: 0,0:07:55.32,0:07:59.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's that, you know, everything becomes \Nlike this one sort of continuous strand. Dialogue: 0,0:08:00.24,0:08:05.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The most insane dress is the one \NI'm going to wear next summer, Dialogue: 0,0:08:05.12,0:08:07.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or this summer. Dialogue: 0,0:08:08.67,0:08:10.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is actually – this is the dress Dialogue: 0,0:08:10.80,0:08:14.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I've made to wear on the island in Denmark. Dialogue: 0,0:08:14.16,0:08:18.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I started making this over a year \Nago, when I started traveling to Denmark, Dialogue: 0,0:08:18.84,0:08:22.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I realized how cold and \Nrainy it is there all the time. Dialogue: 0,0:08:22.20,0:08:24.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this is kind of like the Alpine fantasy dress. Dialogue: 0,0:08:26.96,0:08:28.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, my parents liked to travel, Dialogue: 0,0:08:28.44,0:08:31.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but we didn't have that much money \Nbecause they were school teachers. Dialogue: 0,0:08:31.04,0:08:34.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we would always have these \Nsort of crazy summer schemes, Dialogue: 0,0:08:34.80,0:08:38.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, like going to Europe \Nand camping across Europe. Dialogue: 0,0:08:38.52,0:08:40.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They had a Volkswagen bus. Dialogue: 0,0:08:40.40,0:08:44.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I spent a lot of time in a very, \Nvery small space with my family. Dialogue: 0,0:08:45.00,0:08:48.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I was 12, they bought a 31-foot sailboat. Dialogue: 0,0:08:48.80,0:08:51.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so we did sailing trips in that. Dialogue: 0,0:08:51.64,0:08:56.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I always hated sailing, but I was really obsessed \Nwith the way that the boat would function. Dialogue: 0,0:09:05.40,0:09:09.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is actually a model for a second \Nvariation on a piece that I've been working on Dialogue: 0,0:09:09.68,0:09:13.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the last few years called "A pocket property." Dialogue: 0,0:09:13.72,0:09:20.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's about a 54-foot by 23-foot \Nconcrete floating island. Dialogue: 0,0:09:20.28,0:09:23.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The idea is that it's meant \N– it's, um, your property Dialogue: 0,0:09:23.96,0:09:27.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and your dwelling and your vehicle all in one. Dialogue: 0,0:09:28.08,0:09:30.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One mass-reproducible component. Dialogue: 0,0:09:32.36,0:09:35.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Last summer we basically built the entire island. Dialogue: 0,0:09:35.44,0:09:39.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then it was opened in conjunction \Nwith an architectural exhibition. Dialogue: 0,0:09:39.80,0:09:42.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This summer, actually, in about 3 or 4 days, Dialogue: 0,0:09:42.88,0:09:45.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm going to go to Denmark \Nand live on it for a month. Dialogue: 0,0:09:46.84,0:09:50.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And for one part of that, for \None week of that month actually, Dialogue: 0,0:09:50.80,0:09:52.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some friends are going to come \Nout, and we're going to make Dialogue: 0,0:09:52.76,0:09:55.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a film about the experience \Nof living on the island. Dialogue: 0,0:10:04.16,0:10:05.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,–Hello. Dialogue: 0,0:10:05.24,0:10:06.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,–I'm Axel. Dialogue: 0,0:10:06.84,0:10:07.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm from -- Dialogue: 0,0:10:07.52,0:10:10.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is Jorgen, my photographer. Dialogue: 0,0:10:10.68,0:10:13.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've actually been trying to call you. Dialogue: 0,0:10:13.24,0:10:15.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm actually really excited about this project, Dialogue: 0,0:10:15.84,0:10:17.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because, you know, in the beginning, Dialogue: 0,0:10:17.36,0:10:19.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my art was always very experience-based. Dialogue: 0,0:10:19.28,0:10:23.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, in some projects, there's not \Neven a tangible product, you know, Dialogue: 0,0:10:23.44,0:10:25.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,object that comes out in the end. Dialogue: 0,0:10:25.20,0:10:29.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay, so there's no way we can wait and \Ndo it, like tomorrow or the next day? Dialogue: 0,0:10:30.40,0:10:32.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a long trip. Dialogue: 0,0:10:33.22,0:10:37.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I feel that having these, like, \Nreally wonderful experiences, Dialogue: 0,0:10:37.00,0:10:38.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which are completely unpredictable – Dialogue: 0,0:10:38.60,0:10:43.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, like setting up a scenario where \NI test some sort of living situation. Dialogue: 0,0:10:43.36,0:10:45.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, partially because \NI'm terrified of doing it, Dialogue: 0,0:10:45.68,0:10:49.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,partially because I'm really, like, you \Nknow, enchanted by the idea of doing it. Dialogue: 0,0:10:49.80,0:10:52.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But not really knowing beforehand if it's going Dialogue: 0,0:10:52.00,0:10:54.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be a great experience or a horrible one. Dialogue: 0,0:10:54.36,0:10:57.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can you see the new plants growing? Dialogue: 0,0:10:57.08,0:10:58.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No. Dialogue: 0,0:10:58.20,0:10:59.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You have the small ones here? Dialogue: 0,0:10:59.36,0:11:00.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, I planted them a few days ago. Dialogue: 0,0:11:00.96,0:11:02.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're finally starting to grow. Dialogue: 0,0:11:03.40,0:11:05.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It looks like what I'm trying \Nto remove in my garden, Dialogue: 0,0:11:05.92,0:11:09.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, with going like this all the time. Dialogue: 0,0:11:09.56,0:11:10.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Weeds? Dialogue: 0,0:11:10.68,0:11:11.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:11:11.33,0:11:13.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, but on an island, you're \Neven grateful for the weeds. Dialogue: 0,0:11:15.80,0:11:18.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Don't you have a need to \Nget in contact with people? Dialogue: 0,0:11:18.68,0:11:22.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's why I'm out here, \Nto get away from you guys. Dialogue: 0,0:11:22.92,0:11:27.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Most of your work is like being alone, isn't it? Dialogue: 0,0:11:27.80,0:11:34.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, most of my work's about creating really sort \Nof intimate, personal, controllable situations. Dialogue: 0,0:11:35.52,0:11:36.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:11:37.12,0:11:39.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like, all of my ideas, they're sort of humorous, Dialogue: 0,0:11:39.28,0:11:41.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but they're also a little dark at the same time. Dialogue: 0,0:11:41.56,0:11:44.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, it's like I have this fantasy of being Dialogue: 0,0:11:44.60,0:11:48.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,completely autonomous and \Nindependent and, you know, at peace. Dialogue: 0,0:11:48.92,0:11:51.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, like, not having any of, \Nlike, the day-to-day problems. Dialogue: 0,0:11:51.80,0:11:55.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But then there's also the sense of, \Nlike, isolation that comes along with it. Dialogue: 0,0:12:08.20,0:12:11.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People say that my work's about \Ndesign or it's about leisure. Dialogue: 0,0:12:11.24,0:12:13.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But really, I think that it's much – Dialogue: 0,0:12:13.28,0:12:17.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like the main issues are \Nmuch less tangible than that. Dialogue: 0,0:12:17.04,0:12:20.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The issues that I'm really interested in are, Dialogue: 0,0:12:20.28,0:12:22.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, human values and perceptions Dialogue: 0,0:12:22.68,0:12:25.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how you think that you understand certain, Dialogue: 0,0:12:25.88,0:12:28.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, fundamental values that you, you know – Dialogue: 0,0:12:28.92,0:12:31.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,within your life, and you think \Nyou understand what they are Dialogue: 0,0:12:31.92,0:12:33.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that you need these things. Dialogue: 0,0:12:33.20,0:12:36.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But then they're constantly \Ninverting into each other. Dialogue: 0,0:12:36.40,0:12:38.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's like things that you think are liberating Dialogue: 0,0:12:38.56,0:12:42.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can actually become extremely \Nconfining or restrictive or repressive. Dialogue: 0,0:12:42.84,0:12:45.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And things that you think are controlling Dialogue: 0,0:12:45.16,0:12:46.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can actually give you Dialogue: 0,0:12:46.20,0:12:49.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a greater sense of security \Nand liberation in the end.