WEBVTT 00:00:01.370 --> 00:00:07.120 Imagine you're in a bar, or a club, 00:00:07.120 --> 00:00:10.130 and you start talking, and after a while, the question comes up, 00:00:10.130 --> 00:00:12.000 "So, what do you do for work?" 00:00:12.015 --> 00:00:14.950 And since you think your job is interesting, 00:00:14.950 --> 00:00:19.230 you say, "I'm a mathematician." (Laughter) 00:00:19.690 --> 00:00:22.080 And inevitably, during that conversation 00:00:22.080 --> 00:00:25.750 one of these two phrases come up: 00:00:25.750 --> 00:00:29.195 A) "I was terrible at math, but it wasn't my fault. 00:00:29.195 --> 00:00:32.613 It's because the teacher was awful." (Laughter) 00:00:32.613 --> 00:00:35.582 Or B) "But what is math really for?" 00:00:35.582 --> 00:00:36.610 (Laughter) 00:00:36.610 --> 00:00:38.955 I'll now address Case B. 00:00:38.955 --> 00:00:40.510 (Laughter) 00:00:40.510 --> 00:00:45.354 When someone asks you what math is for, they're not asking you 00:00:45.354 --> 00:00:48.203 about applications of mathematical science. 00:00:48.203 --> 00:00:49.554 They're asking you, 00:00:49.554 --> 00:00:53.485 why did I have to study that bullshit I never used in my life again? (Laughter) 00:00:53.485 --> 00:00:55.924 That's what they're actually asking. 00:00:55.924 --> 00:01:00.124 So when mathematicians are asked what math is for, 00:01:00.124 --> 00:01:02.404 they tend to fall into two groups: 00:01:02.404 --> 00:01:07.739 54.51 percent of mathematicians will assume an attacking position, 00:01:08.609 --> 00:01:13.559 and 44.77 percent of mathematicians will take a defensive position. 00:01:13.559 --> 00:01:17.068 There's a strange 0.8 percent, among which I include myself. 00:01:17.068 --> 00:01:19.155 Who are the ones that attack? 00:01:19.155 --> 00:01:21.902 The attacking ones are mathematicians who would tell you 00:01:21.902 --> 00:01:23.849 this question makes no sense, 00:01:23.849 --> 00:01:26.597 because mathematics have a meaning all their own -- 00:01:26.597 --> 00:01:29.144 a beautiful edifice with its own logic -- 00:01:29.144 --> 00:01:31.011 and that there's no point 00:01:31.011 --> 00:01:33.558 in constantly searching for all possible applications. 00:01:33.558 --> 00:01:35.847 What's the use of poetry? What's the use of love? 00:01:35.847 --> 00:01:38.908 What's the use of life itself? What kind of question is that? 00:01:38.908 --> 00:01:40.529 (Laughter) 00:01:40.529 --> 00:01:44.296 Hardy, for instance, was a model of this type of attack. 00:01:44.296 --> 00:01:46.242 And those who stand in defense tell you, 00:01:46.242 --> 00:01:51.082 "Even if you don't realize it, friend, math is behind everything." 00:01:51.082 --> 00:01:52.340 (Laughter) 00:01:52.340 --> 00:01:54.218 Those guys, 00:01:54.218 --> 00:01:58.246 they always bring up bridges and computers. 00:01:58.246 --> 00:02:00.841 "If you don't know math, your bridge will collapse." 00:02:00.841 --> 00:02:02.286 (Laughter) 00:02:02.286 --> 00:02:05.523 It's true, computers are all about math. 00:02:05.523 --> 00:02:08.008 And now these guys have also started saying 00:02:08.013 --> 00:02:13.050 that behind information security and credit cards are prime numbers. 00:02:13.710 --> 00:02:17.379 These are the answers your math teacher would give you if you asked him. 00:02:17.379 --> 00:02:19.544 He's one of the defensive ones. 00:02:19.544 --> 00:02:21.384 Okay, but who's right then? 00:02:21.384 --> 00:02:23.990 Those who say that math doesn't need to have a purpose, 00:02:23.990 --> 00:02:26.849 or those who say that math is behind everything we do? 00:02:26.849 --> 00:02:28.520 Actually, both are right. 00:02:28.520 --> 00:02:30.183 But remember I told you 00:02:30.183 --> 00:02:33.726 I belong to that strange 0.8 percent claiming something else? 00:02:33.726 --> 00:02:36.929 So, go ahead, ask me what math is for. 00:02:36.929 --> 00:02:39.858 Audience: What is math for? 00:02:39.858 --> 00:02:44.673 Eduardo Sáenz de Cabezón: Okay, 76.34 percent of you asked the question, 00:02:44.673 --> 00:02:47.600 23.41 percent didn't say anything, 00:02:47.600 --> 00:02:48.827 and the 0.8 percent -- 00:02:48.827 --> 00:02:51.675 I'm not sure what those guys are doing. 00:02:51.675 --> 00:02:55.175 Well, to my dear 76.31 percent -- 00:02:55.175 --> 00:02:59.815 it's true that math doesn't need to serve a purpose, 00:02:59.815 --> 00:03:02.685 it's true that it's a beautiful structure, a logical one, 00:03:02.685 --> 00:03:05.537 probably one of the greatest collective efforts 00:03:05.537 --> 00:03:07.633 ever achieved in human history. 00:03:07.633 --> 00:03:09.732 But it's also true that there, 00:03:09.732 --> 00:03:14.331 where scientists and technicians are looking for mathematical theories 00:03:14.331 --> 00:03:16.641 that allow them to advance, 00:03:16.641 --> 00:03:20.438 they're within the structure of math, which permeates everything. 00:03:20.438 --> 00:03:23.585 It's true that we have to go somewhat deeper, 00:03:23.585 --> 00:03:25.308 to see what's behind science. 00:03:25.308 --> 00:03:28.858 Science operates on intuition, creativity. 00:03:29.348 --> 00:03:32.772 Math controls intuition and tames creativity. 00:03:33.747 --> 00:03:35.937 Almost everyone who hasn't heard this before 00:03:35.937 --> 00:03:38.647 is surprised when they hear that if you take 00:03:38.647 --> 00:03:43.187 a 0.1 millimeter thick sheet of paper, the size we normally use, 00:03:43.187 --> 00:03:46.505 and, if it were big enough, fold it 50 times, 00:03:46.505 --> 00:03:52.205 its thickness would extend almost the distance from the Earth to the sun. 00:03:52.600 --> 00:03:55.201 Your intuition tells you it's impossible. 00:03:55.201 --> 00:03:57.622 Do the math and you'll see it's right. 00:03:57.622 --> 00:04:00.135 That's what math is for. 00:04:00.135 --> 00:04:03.917 It's true that science, all types of science, only makes sense 00:04:03.917 --> 00:04:07.288 because it makes us better understand this beautiful world we live in. 00:04:07.288 --> 00:04:08.669 And in doing that, 00:04:08.669 --> 00:04:12.179 it helps us avoid the pitfalls of this painful world we live in. 00:04:12.179 --> 00:04:15.657 There are sciences that help us in this way quite directly. 00:04:15.657 --> 00:04:17.413 Oncological science, for example. 00:04:17.413 --> 00:04:20.904 And there are others we look at from afar, with envy sometimes, 00:04:20.904 --> 00:04:23.464 but knowing that we are what supports them. 00:04:23.464 --> 00:04:26.213 All the basic sciences support them, 00:04:26.213 --> 00:04:28.649 including math. 00:04:28.649 --> 00:04:32.366 All that makes science, science is the rigor of math. 00:04:32.366 --> 00:04:37.242 And that rigor factors in because its results are eternal. 00:04:37.242 --> 00:04:39.757 You probably said or were told at some point 00:04:39.757 --> 00:04:42.708 that diamonds are forever, right? 00:04:44.178 --> 00:04:46.392 That depends on your definition of forever! 00:04:46.392 --> 00:04:48.883 A theorem -- that really is forever. 00:04:48.883 --> 00:04:50.134 (Laughter) 00:04:50.134 --> 00:04:53.486 The Pythagorean theorem is still true 00:04:53.486 --> 00:04:56.601 even though Pythagoras is dead, I assure you it's true. (Laughter) 00:04:56.601 --> 00:04:57.946 Even if the world collapsed 00:04:57.946 --> 00:05:00.391 the Pythagorean theorem would still be true. 00:05:00.391 --> 00:05:04.452 Wherever any two triangle sides and a good hypotenuse get together 00:05:04.452 --> 00:05:05.673 (Laughter) 00:05:05.673 --> 00:05:08.534 the Pythagorean theorem goes all out. It works like crazy. 00:05:08.534 --> 00:05:11.355 (Applause) 00:05:15.535 --> 00:05:19.407 Well, we mathematicians devote ourselves to come up with theorems. 00:05:19.407 --> 00:05:21.143 Eternal truths. 00:05:21.143 --> 00:05:23.909 But it isn't always easy to know the difference between 00:05:23.909 --> 00:05:26.815 an eternal truth, or theorem, and a mere conjecture. 00:05:26.815 --> 00:05:29.829 You need proof. 00:05:29.829 --> 00:05:31.596 For example, 00:05:31.596 --> 00:05:36.423 let's say I have a big, enormous, infinite field. 00:05:36.423 --> 00:05:40.132 I want to cover it with equal pieces, without leaving any gaps. 00:05:40.132 --> 00:05:42.256 I could use squares, right? 00:05:42.256 --> 00:05:46.222 I could use triangles. Not circles, those leave little gaps. 00:05:46.777 --> 00:05:49.134 Which is the best shape to use? 00:05:49.134 --> 00:05:53.687 One that covers the same surface, but has a smaller border. 00:05:53.687 --> 00:05:58.396 In the year 300, Pappus of Alexandria said the best is to use hexagons, 00:05:58.396 --> 00:06:00.243 just like bees do. 00:06:00.243 --> 00:06:01.990 But he didn't prove it. 00:06:01.990 --> 00:06:04.688 The guy said, "Hexagons, great! Let's go with hexagons!" 00:06:04.688 --> 00:06:07.656 He didn't prove it, it remained a conjecture. 00:06:07.656 --> 00:06:09.334 "Hexagons!" 00:06:09.334 --> 00:06:12.964 And the world, as you know, split into Pappists and anti-Pappists, 00:06:12.964 --> 00:06:18.253 until 1700 years later 00:06:18.253 --> 00:06:23.707 when in 1999, Thomas Hales proved 00:06:23.707 --> 00:06:28.641 that Pappus and the bees were right -- the best shape to use was the hexagon. 00:06:28.641 --> 00:06:31.123 And that became a theorem, the honeycomb theorem, 00:06:31.123 --> 00:06:33.183 that will be true forever and ever, 00:06:33.183 --> 00:06:36.224 for longer than any diamond you may have. (Laughter) 00:06:36.229 --> 00:06:39.033 But what happens if we go to three dimensions? 00:06:39.033 --> 00:06:42.944 If I want to fill the space with equal pieces, 00:06:43.464 --> 00:06:44.805 without leaving any gaps, 00:06:44.805 --> 00:06:46.638 I can use cubes, right? 00:06:46.638 --> 00:06:49.994 Not spheres, those leave little gaps. (Laughter) 00:06:49.994 --> 00:06:52.957 What is the best shape to use? 00:06:52.957 --> 00:06:57.017 Lord Kelvin, of the famous Kelvin degrees and all, 00:06:57.607 --> 00:07:03.121 said that the best was to use a truncated octahedron 00:07:04.791 --> 00:07:07.507 which, as you all know -- 00:07:07.507 --> 00:07:09.035 (Laughter) -- 00:07:09.035 --> 00:07:10.814 is this thing here! 00:07:10.814 --> 00:07:13.753 (Applause) 00:07:15.778 --> 00:07:17.225 Come on. 00:07:18.025 --> 00:07:20.862 Who doesn't have a truncated octahedron at home? (Laughter) 00:07:20.862 --> 00:07:22.089 Even a plastic one. 00:07:22.089 --> 00:07:24.846 "Honey, get the truncated octahedron, we're having guests." 00:07:24.846 --> 00:07:26.240 Everybody has one! (Laughter) 00:07:26.240 --> 00:07:28.614 But Kelvin didn't prove it. 00:07:28.614 --> 00:07:32.655 It remained a conjecture -- Kelvin's conjecture. 00:07:32.655 --> 00:07:38.177 The world, as you know, then split into Kelvinists and anti-Kelvinists 00:07:38.177 --> 00:07:39.599 (Laughter) 00:07:39.599 --> 00:07:43.496 until a hundred or so years later, 00:07:46.203 --> 00:07:50.072 someone found a better structure. 00:07:50.917 --> 00:07:56.026 Weaire and Phelan found this little thing over here -- 00:07:56.026 --> 00:07:57.665 (Laughter) -- 00:07:57.665 --> 00:08:01.209 this structure to which they gave the very clever name 00:08:01.209 --> 00:08:03.375 "the Weaire-Phelan structure." 00:08:03.375 --> 00:08:05.911 (Laughter) 00:08:05.911 --> 00:08:08.568 It looks like a strange object, but it isn't so strange, 00:08:08.568 --> 00:08:10.239 it also exists in nature. 00:08:10.239 --> 00:08:12.844 It's very interesting that this structure, 00:08:12.844 --> 00:08:15.037 because of its geometric properties, 00:08:15.037 --> 00:08:20.229 was used to build the Aquatics Center for the Beijing Olympic Games. 00:08:20.969 --> 00:08:23.714 There, Michael Phelps won eight gold medals, 00:08:23.714 --> 00:08:26.875 and became the best swimmer of all time. 00:08:26.875 --> 00:08:30.616 Well, until someone better comes along, right? 00:08:30.616 --> 00:08:33.015 As may happen with the Weaire-Phelan structure. 00:08:33.015 --> 00:08:35.633 It's the best until something better shows up. 00:08:35.633 --> 00:08:40.225 But be careful, because this one really stands a chance 00:08:40.225 --> 00:08:45.205 that in a hundred or so years, or even if it's in 1700 years, 00:08:45.205 --> 00:08:50.603 that someone proves it's the best possible shape for the job. 00:08:50.978 --> 00:08:55.348 It will then become a theorem, a truth, forever and ever. 00:08:55.348 --> 00:08:58.302 For longer than any diamond. 00:08:58.837 --> 00:09:02.567 So, if you want to tell someone 00:09:03.777 --> 00:09:06.823 that you will love them forever 00:09:06.823 --> 00:09:08.890 you can give them a diamond. 00:09:08.890 --> 00:09:12.421 But if you want to tell them that you'll love them forever and ever, 00:09:12.421 --> 00:09:14.172 give them a theorem! 00:09:14.172 --> 00:09:15.263 (Laughter) 00:09:15.263 --> 00:09:17.853 But hang on a minute! 00:09:18.783 --> 00:09:20.183 You'll have to prove it, 00:09:20.183 --> 00:09:22.466 so your love doesn't remain 00:09:22.466 --> 00:09:24.299 a conjecture. 00:09:24.299 --> 00:09:27.543 (Applause)