0:00:01.370,0:00:07.120 Imagine you're in a bar, or a club, 0:00:07.120,0:00:10.130 and you start talking, and after a while,[br]the question comes up, 0:00:10.130,0:00:12.000 "So, what do you do for work?" 0:00:12.015,0:00:14.950 And since you think[br]your job is interesting, 0:00:14.950,0:00:19.230 you say, "I'm a mathematician."[br](Laughter) 0:00:19.690,0:00:22.080 And inevitably, during that conversation 0:00:22.080,0:00:25.750 one of these two phrases come up: 0:00:25.750,0:00:29.195 A) "I was terrible at math,[br]but it wasn't my fault. 0:00:29.195,0:00:32.613 It's because the teacher[br]was awful." (Laughter) 0:00:32.613,0:00:35.582 Or B) "But what is math really for?" 0:00:35.582,0:00:36.610 (Laughter) 0:00:36.610,0:00:38.955 I'll now address Case B. 0:00:38.955,0:00:40.510 (Laughter) 0:00:40.510,0:00:45.354 When someone asks you what math is for,[br]they're not asking you 0:00:45.354,0:00:48.203 about applications[br]of mathematical science. 0:00:48.203,0:00:49.554 They're asking you, 0:00:49.554,0:00:53.485 why did I have to study that bullshit[br]I never used in my life again? (Laughter) 0:00:53.485,0:00:55.924 That's what they're actually asking. 0:00:55.924,0:01:00.124 So when mathematicians are asked[br]what math is for, 0:01:00.124,0:01:02.404 they tend to fall into two groups: 0:01:02.404,0:01:07.739 54.51 percent of mathematicians[br]will assume an attacking position, 0:01:08.609,0:01:13.559 and 44.77 percent of mathematicians[br]will take a defensive position. 0:01:13.559,0:01:17.068 There's a strange 0.8 percent,[br]among which I include myself. 0:01:17.068,0:01:19.155 Who are the ones that attack? 0:01:19.155,0:01:21.902 The attacking ones are mathematicians[br]who would tell you 0:01:21.902,0:01:23.849 this question makes no sense, 0:01:23.849,0:01:26.597 because mathematics[br]have a meaning all their own -- 0:01:26.597,0:01:29.144 a beautiful edifice with its own logic -- 0:01:29.144,0:01:31.011 and that there's no point 0:01:31.011,0:01:33.558 in constantly searching[br]for all possible applications. 0:01:33.558,0:01:35.847 What's the use of poetry?[br]What's the use of love? 0:01:35.847,0:01:38.908 What's the use of life itself? [br]What kind of question is that? 0:01:38.908,0:01:40.529 (Laughter) 0:01:40.529,0:01:44.296 Hardy, for instance, was a model[br]of this type of attack. 0:01:44.296,0:01:46.242 And those who stand in defense tell you, 0:01:46.242,0:01:51.082 "Even if you don't realize it, friend,[br]math is behind everything." 0:01:51.082,0:01:52.340 (Laughter) 0:01:52.340,0:01:54.218 Those guys, 0:01:54.218,0:01:58.246 they always bring up[br]bridges and computers. 0:01:58.246,0:02:00.841 "If you don't know math,[br]your bridge will collapse." 0:02:00.841,0:02:02.286 (Laughter) 0:02:02.286,0:02:05.523 It's true, computers are all about math. 0:02:05.523,0:02:08.008 And now these guys[br]have also started saying 0:02:08.013,0:02:13.050 that behind information security[br]and credit cards are prime numbers. 0:02:13.710,0:02:17.379 These are the answers your math teacher[br]would give you if you asked him. 0:02:17.379,0:02:19.544 He's one of the defensive ones. 0:02:19.544,0:02:21.384 Okay, but who's right then? 0:02:21.384,0:02:23.990 Those who say that math[br]doesn't need to have a purpose, 0:02:23.990,0:02:26.849 or those who say that math[br]is behind everything we do? 0:02:26.849,0:02:28.520 Actually, both are right. 0:02:28.520,0:02:30.183 But remember I told you 0:02:30.183,0:02:33.726 I belong to that strange 0.8 percent[br]claiming something else? 0:02:33.726,0:02:36.929 So, go ahead, ask me what math is for. 0:02:36.929,0:02:39.858 Audience: What is math for? 0:02:39.858,0:02:44.673 Eduardo Sáenz de Cabezón: Okay,[br]76.34 percent of you asked the question, 0:02:44.673,0:02:47.600 23.41 percent didn't say anything, 0:02:47.600,0:02:48.827 and the 0.8 percent -- 0:02:48.827,0:02:51.675 I'm not sure what those guys are doing. 0:02:51.675,0:02:55.175 Well, to my dear 76.31 percent -- 0:02:55.175,0:02:59.815 it's true that math doesn't need[br]to serve a purpose, 0:02:59.815,0:03:02.685 it's true that it's[br]a beautiful structure, a logical one, 0:03:02.685,0:03:05.537 probably one[br]of the greatest collective efforts 0:03:05.537,0:03:07.633 ever achieved in human history. 0:03:07.633,0:03:09.732 But it's also true that there, 0:03:09.732,0:03:14.331 where scientists and technicians[br]are looking for mathematical theories 0:03:14.331,0:03:16.641 that allow them to advance, 0:03:16.641,0:03:20.438 they're within the structure of math,[br]which permeates everything. 0:03:20.438,0:03:23.585 It's true that we have to go[br]somewhat deeper, 0:03:23.585,0:03:25.308 to see what's behind science. 0:03:25.308,0:03:28.858 Science operates on intuition, creativity. 0:03:29.348,0:03:32.772 Math controls intuition[br]and tames creativity. 0:03:33.747,0:03:35.937 Almost everyone[br]who hasn't heard this before 0:03:35.937,0:03:38.647 is surprised when they hear[br]that if you take 0:03:38.647,0:03:43.187 a 0.1 millimeter thick sheet of paper,[br]the size we normally use, 0:03:43.187,0:03:46.505 and, if it were big enough,[br]fold it 50 times, 0:03:46.505,0:03:52.205 its thickness would extend almost[br]the distance from the Earth to the sun. 0:03:52.600,0:03:55.201 Your intuition tells you it's impossible. 0:03:55.201,0:03:57.622 Do the math and you'll see it's right. 0:03:57.622,0:04:00.135 That's what math is for. 0:04:00.135,0:04:03.917 It's true that science, all types[br]of science, only makes sense 0:04:03.917,0:04:07.288 because it makes us better understand[br]this beautiful world we live in. 0:04:07.288,0:04:08.669 And in doing that, 0:04:08.669,0:04:12.179 it helps us avoid the pitfalls[br]of this painful world we live in. 0:04:12.179,0:04:15.657 There are sciences that help us[br]in this way quite directly. 0:04:15.657,0:04:17.413 Oncological science, for example. 0:04:17.413,0:04:20.904 And there are others we look at from afar,[br]with envy sometimes, 0:04:20.904,0:04:23.464 but knowing that we are[br]what supports them. 0:04:23.464,0:04:26.213 All the basic sciences[br]support them, 0:04:26.213,0:04:28.649 including math. 0:04:28.649,0:04:32.366 All that makes science, science[br]is the rigor of math. 0:04:32.366,0:04:37.242 And that rigor factors in[br]because its results are eternal. 0:04:37.242,0:04:39.757 You probably said or were told[br]at some point 0:04:39.757,0:04:42.708 that diamonds are forever, right? 0:04:44.178,0:04:46.392 That depends on[br]your definition of forever! 0:04:46.392,0:04:48.883 A theorem -- that really is forever. 0:04:48.883,0:04:50.134 (Laughter) 0:04:50.134,0:04:53.486 The Pythagorean theorem is still true 0:04:53.486,0:04:56.601 even though Pythagoras is dead,[br]I assure you it's true. (Laughter) 0:04:56.601,0:04:57.946 Even if the world collapsed 0:04:57.946,0:05:00.391 the Pythagorean theorem[br]would still be true. 0:05:00.391,0:05:04.452 Wherever any two triangle sides[br]and a good hypotenuse get together 0:05:04.452,0:05:05.673 (Laughter) 0:05:05.673,0:05:08.534 the Pythagorean theorem goes all out.[br]It works like crazy. 0:05:08.534,0:05:11.355 (Applause) 0:05:15.535,0:05:19.407 Well, we mathematicians devote ourselves[br]to come up with theorems. 0:05:19.407,0:05:21.143 Eternal truths. 0:05:21.143,0:05:23.909 But it isn't always easy to know[br]the difference between 0:05:23.909,0:05:26.815 an eternal truth, or theorem,[br]and a mere conjecture. 0:05:26.815,0:05:29.829 You need proof. 0:05:29.829,0:05:31.596 For example, 0:05:31.596,0:05:36.423 let's say I have a big,[br]enormous, infinite field. 0:05:36.423,0:05:40.132 I want to cover it with equal pieces,[br]without leaving any gaps. 0:05:40.132,0:05:42.256 I could use squares, right? 0:05:42.256,0:05:46.222 I could use triangles.[br]Not circles, those leave little gaps. 0:05:46.777,0:05:49.134 Which is the best shape to use? 0:05:49.134,0:05:53.687 One that covers the same surface,[br]but has a smaller border. 0:05:53.687,0:05:58.396 In the year 300, Pappus of Alexandria[br]said the best is to use hexagons, 0:05:58.396,0:06:00.243 just like bees do. 0:06:00.243,0:06:01.990 But he didn't prove it. 0:06:01.990,0:06:04.688 The guy said, "Hexagons, great![br]Let's go with hexagons!" 0:06:04.688,0:06:07.656 He didn't prove it,[br]it remained a conjecture. 0:06:07.656,0:06:09.334 "Hexagons!" 0:06:09.334,0:06:12.964 And the world, as you know,[br]split into Pappists and anti-Pappists, 0:06:12.964,0:06:18.253 until 1700 years later 0:06:18.253,0:06:23.707 when in 1999, Thomas Hales proved 0:06:23.707,0:06:28.641 that Pappus and the bees were right --[br]the best shape to use was the hexagon. 0:06:28.641,0:06:31.123 And that became a theorem,[br]the honeycomb theorem, 0:06:31.123,0:06:33.183 that will be true forever and ever, 0:06:33.183,0:06:36.224 for longer than any diamond[br]you may have. (Laughter) 0:06:36.229,0:06:39.033 But what happens if we go[br]to three dimensions? 0:06:39.033,0:06:42.944 If I want to fill the space[br]with equal pieces, 0:06:43.464,0:06:44.805 without leaving any gaps, 0:06:44.805,0:06:46.638 I can use cubes, right? 0:06:46.638,0:06:49.994 Not spheres, those leave little gaps.[br](Laughter) 0:06:49.994,0:06:52.957 What is the best shape to use? 0:06:52.957,0:06:57.017 Lord Kelvin, of the famous[br]Kelvin degrees and all, 0:06:57.607,0:07:03.121 said that the best was to use[br]a truncated octahedron 0:07:04.791,0:07:07.507 which, as you all know -- 0:07:07.507,0:07:09.035 (Laughter) -- 0:07:09.035,0:07:10.814 is this thing here! 0:07:10.814,0:07:13.753 (Applause) 0:07:15.778,0:07:17.225 Come on. 0:07:18.025,0:07:20.862 Who doesn't have a truncated[br]octahedron at home? (Laughter) 0:07:20.862,0:07:22.089 Even a plastic one. 0:07:22.089,0:07:24.846 "Honey, get the truncated octahedron,[br]we're having guests." 0:07:24.846,0:07:26.240 Everybody has one![br](Laughter) 0:07:26.240,0:07:28.614 But Kelvin didn't prove it. 0:07:28.614,0:07:32.655 It remained a conjecture --[br]Kelvin's conjecture. 0:07:32.655,0:07:38.177 The world, as you know, then split into[br]Kelvinists and anti-Kelvinists 0:07:38.177,0:07:39.599 (Laughter) 0:07:39.599,0:07:43.496 until a hundred or so years later, 0:07:46.203,0:07:50.072 someone found a better structure. 0:07:50.917,0:07:56.026 Weaire and Phelan[br]found this little thing over here -- 0:07:56.026,0:07:57.665 (Laughter) -- 0:07:57.665,0:08:01.209 this structure to which they gave[br]the very clever name 0:08:01.209,0:08:03.375 "the Weaire-Phelan structure." 0:08:03.375,0:08:05.911 (Laughter) 0:08:05.911,0:08:08.568 It looks like a strange object,[br]but it isn't so strange, 0:08:08.568,0:08:10.239 it also exists in nature. 0:08:10.239,0:08:12.844 It's very interesting that this structure, 0:08:12.844,0:08:15.037 because of its geometric properties, 0:08:15.037,0:08:20.229 was used to build the Aquatics Center[br]for the Beijing Olympic Games. 0:08:20.969,0:08:23.714 There, Michael Phelps[br]won eight gold medals, 0:08:23.714,0:08:26.875 and became the best swimmer of all time. 0:08:26.875,0:08:30.616 Well, until someone better[br]comes along, right? 0:08:30.616,0:08:33.015 As may happen[br]with the Weaire-Phelan structure. 0:08:33.015,0:08:35.633 It's the best[br]until something better shows up. 0:08:35.633,0:08:40.225 But be careful, because this one[br]really stands a chance 0:08:40.225,0:08:45.205 that in a hundred or so years,[br]or even if it's in 1700 years, 0:08:45.205,0:08:50.603 that someone proves[br]it's the best possible shape for the job. 0:08:50.978,0:08:55.348 It will then become a theorem,[br]a truth, forever and ever. 0:08:55.348,0:08:58.302 For longer than any diamond. 0:08:58.837,0:09:02.567 So, if you want to tell someone 0:09:03.777,0:09:06.823 that you will love them forever 0:09:06.823,0:09:08.890 you can give them a diamond. 0:09:08.890,0:09:12.421 But if you want to tell them[br]that you'll love them forever and ever, 0:09:12.421,0:09:14.172 give them a theorem! 0:09:14.172,0:09:15.263 (Laughter) 0:09:15.263,0:09:17.853 But hang on a minute! 0:09:18.783,0:09:20.183 You'll have to prove it, 0:09:20.183,0:09:22.466 so your love doesn't remain 0:09:22.466,0:09:24.299 a conjecture. 0:09:24.299,0:09:27.543 (Applause)