1 00:00:01,458 --> 00:00:06,260 Imagine you're in a bar, or a club, 2 00:00:06,910 --> 00:00:09,591 and you start talking to a woman, 3 00:00:09,951 --> 00:00:14,542 and after a while this question comes up: "So, what do you do for work?" 4 00:00:14,553 --> 00:00:17,867 And since you think your job is interesting, you say: 5 00:00:17,867 --> 00:00:19,706 "I'm a mathematician." 6 00:00:19,706 --> 00:00:21,725 (Laughter) 7 00:00:22,355 --> 00:00:26,537 Then 33.51 percent of women, 8 00:00:26,537 --> 00:00:30,772 in that moment, pretend to get an urgent call and leave. 9 00:00:30,772 --> 00:00:32,495 (Laughter) 10 00:00:32,495 --> 00:00:35,806 And 64.69 percent of women 11 00:00:36,266 --> 00:00:40,077 desperately try to change the subject and leave. 12 00:00:40,077 --> 00:00:41,269 (Laughter) 13 00:00:41,269 --> 00:00:45,409 Another 0.8 percent, which are your cousin, your girlfriend and your mom, 14 00:00:45,409 --> 00:00:49,694 know that you work in something weird but don't remember what it is. (Laughter) 15 00:00:49,694 --> 00:00:52,995 And then there's one percent who remain engaged with the conversation. 16 00:00:52,995 --> 00:00:55,080 And inevitably, during that conversation 17 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:58,750 one of these two phrases come up: 18 00:00:58,750 --> 00:01:02,195 A) "I was terrible at math, but it wasn't my fault. 19 00:01:02,195 --> 00:01:05,614 It's because the teacher was awful." (Laughter) 20 00:01:05,614 --> 00:01:08,582 Or B) "But what is math really for?" 21 00:01:08,582 --> 00:01:09,610 (Laughter) 22 00:01:09,610 --> 00:01:11,955 I'll now address Case B. 23 00:01:11,955 --> 00:01:13,510 (Laughter) 24 00:01:13,510 --> 00:01:18,354 When someone asks you what math is for, they're not asking you 25 00:01:18,354 --> 00:01:21,203 about applications of mathematical science. 26 00:01:21,203 --> 00:01:22,554 They're asking you, 27 00:01:22,554 --> 00:01:26,485 why did I have to study that bullshit I never used in my life again? (Laughter) 28 00:01:26,485 --> 00:01:28,924 That's what they're actually asking. 29 00:01:28,924 --> 00:01:33,124 So when mathematicians are asked what math is for, 30 00:01:33,124 --> 00:01:35,404 they tend to fall into two groups: 31 00:01:35,404 --> 00:01:40,739 54.51 percent of mathematicians will assume an attacking position, 32 00:01:41,609 --> 00:01:46,559 and 44.77 percent of mathematicians will take a defensive position. 33 00:01:46,559 --> 00:01:50,068 There's a strange 0.8 percent, among which I include myself. 34 00:01:50,068 --> 00:01:52,155 Who are the ones that attack? 35 00:01:52,155 --> 00:01:54,902 The attacking ones are mathematicians who would tell you 36 00:01:54,902 --> 00:01:56,849 this question makes no sense, 37 00:01:56,849 --> 00:01:59,597 because mathematics have a meaning all their own -- 38 00:01:59,597 --> 00:02:02,144 a beautiful edifice with its own logic -- 39 00:02:02,144 --> 00:02:04,011 and that there's no point 40 00:02:04,011 --> 00:02:06,558 in constantly searching for all possible applications. 41 00:02:06,558 --> 00:02:08,847 What's the use of poetry? What's the use of love? 42 00:02:08,847 --> 00:02:11,908 What's the use of life itself? What kind of question is that? 43 00:02:11,908 --> 00:02:13,529 (Laughter) 44 00:02:13,529 --> 00:02:17,296 Hardy, for instance, was a model of this type of attack. 45 00:02:17,296 --> 00:02:19,242 And those who stand in defense tell you, 46 00:02:19,242 --> 00:02:24,082 "Even if you don't realize it, friend, math is behind everything." 47 00:02:24,082 --> 00:02:25,340 (Laughter) 48 00:02:25,340 --> 00:02:27,218 Those guys, 49 00:02:27,218 --> 00:02:31,246 they always bring up bridges and computers. 50 00:02:31,246 --> 00:02:33,841 "If you don't know math, your bridge will collapse." 51 00:02:33,841 --> 00:02:35,286 (Laughter) 52 00:02:35,286 --> 00:02:38,523 It's true, computers are all about math. 53 00:02:38,523 --> 00:02:41,008 And now these guys have also started saying 54 00:02:41,013 --> 00:02:46,050 that behind information security and credit cards are prime numbers. 55 00:02:46,710 --> 00:02:50,379 These are the answers your math teacher would give you if you asked him. 56 00:02:50,379 --> 00:02:52,544 He's one of the defensive ones. 57 00:02:52,544 --> 00:02:54,384 Okay, but who's right then? 58 00:02:54,384 --> 00:02:56,990 Those who say that math doesn't need to have a purpose, 59 00:02:56,990 --> 00:02:59,849 or those who say that math is behind everything we do? 60 00:02:59,849 --> 00:03:01,520 Actually, both are right. 61 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:03,183 But remember I told you 62 00:03:03,183 --> 00:03:06,726 I belong to that strange 0.8 percent claiming something else? 63 00:03:06,726 --> 00:03:09,929 So, go ahead, ask me what math is for. 64 00:03:09,929 --> 00:03:12,858 Audience: What is math for? 65 00:03:12,858 --> 00:03:17,673 Eduardo Sáenz de Cabezón: Okay, 76.34 percent of you asked the question, 66 00:03:17,673 --> 00:03:20,600 23.41 percent didn't say anything, 67 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:21,827 and the 0.8 percent -- 68 00:03:21,827 --> 00:03:24,675 I'm not sure what those guys are doing. 69 00:03:24,675 --> 00:03:28,175 Well, to my dear 76.31 percent -- 70 00:03:28,175 --> 00:03:32,815 it's true that math doesn't need to serve a purpose, 71 00:03:32,815 --> 00:03:35,685 it's true that it's a beautiful structure, a logical one, 72 00:03:35,685 --> 00:03:38,537 probably one of the greatest collective efforts 73 00:03:38,537 --> 00:03:40,633 ever achieved in human history. 74 00:03:40,633 --> 00:03:42,732 But it's also true that there, 75 00:03:42,732 --> 00:03:47,331 where scientists and technicians are looking for mathematical theories 76 00:03:47,331 --> 00:03:49,641 that allow them to advance, 77 00:03:49,641 --> 00:03:53,438 they're within the structure of math, which permeates everything. 78 00:03:53,438 --> 00:03:56,585 It's true that we have to go somewhat deeper, 79 00:03:56,585 --> 00:03:58,308 to see what's behind science. 80 00:03:58,308 --> 00:04:01,858 Science operates on intuition, creativity. 81 00:04:02,348 --> 00:04:05,772 Math controls intuition and tames creativity. 82 00:04:06,747 --> 00:04:08,937 Almost everyone who hasn't heard this before 83 00:04:08,937 --> 00:04:11,647 is surprised when they hear that if you take 84 00:04:11,647 --> 00:04:16,187 a 0.1 millimeter thick sheet of paper, the size we normally use, 85 00:04:16,187 --> 00:04:19,505 and, if it were big enough, fold it 50 times, 86 00:04:19,505 --> 00:04:25,205 the thickness of that pile would extend the distance from the Earth to the sun. 87 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,201 Your intuition tells you it's impossible. 88 00:04:28,201 --> 00:04:30,622 Do the math and you'll see it's right. 89 00:04:30,622 --> 00:04:33,135 That's what math is for. 90 00:04:33,135 --> 00:04:36,917 It's true that science, all types of science, only makes sense 91 00:04:36,917 --> 00:04:40,288 because it makes us better understand this beautiful world we live in. 92 00:04:40,288 --> 00:04:41,669 And in doing that, 93 00:04:41,669 --> 00:04:45,179 it helps us avoid the pitfalls of this painful world we live in. 94 00:04:45,179 --> 00:04:48,657 There are sciences that help us in this way quite directly. 95 00:04:48,657 --> 00:04:50,413 Oncological science, for example. 96 00:04:50,413 --> 00:04:53,905 And there are others we look at from afar, with envy sometimes, 97 00:04:53,905 --> 00:04:56,464 but knowing that we are what supports them. 98 00:04:56,464 --> 00:04:59,213 All the basic sciences support them, 99 00:04:59,213 --> 00:05:01,649 including math. 100 00:05:01,649 --> 00:05:05,366 All that makes science, science is the rigor of math. 101 00:05:05,366 --> 00:05:10,242 And that rigor factors in because its results are eternal. 102 00:05:10,242 --> 00:05:12,757 You probably said or were told at some point 103 00:05:12,757 --> 00:05:15,708 that diamonds are forever, right? 104 00:05:17,178 --> 00:05:19,392 That depends on your definition of forever! 105 00:05:19,392 --> 00:05:21,883 A theorem -- that really is forever. 106 00:05:21,883 --> 00:05:23,134 (Laughter) 107 00:05:23,134 --> 00:05:26,486 The Pythagorean theorem is still true 108 00:05:26,486 --> 00:05:29,601 even though Pythagoras is dead, I assure you it's true. (Laughter) 109 00:05:29,601 --> 00:05:30,946 Even if the world collapsed 110 00:05:30,946 --> 00:05:33,391 the Pythagorean theorem would still be true. 111 00:05:33,391 --> 00:05:37,452 Wherever any two triangle sides and a good hypotenuse get together 112 00:05:37,452 --> 00:05:38,673 (Laughter) 113 00:05:38,673 --> 00:05:41,534 the Pythagorean theorem goes all out. It works like crazy. 114 00:05:41,534 --> 00:05:44,355 (Applause) 115 00:05:48,535 --> 00:05:52,407 Well, we mathematicians devote ourselves to come up with theorems. 116 00:05:52,407 --> 00:05:54,143 Eternal truths. 117 00:05:54,143 --> 00:05:56,909 But it isn't always easy to know the difference between 118 00:05:56,909 --> 00:05:59,815 an eternal truth, or theorem, and a mere conjecture. 119 00:05:59,815 --> 00:06:02,829 You need proof. 120 00:06:02,829 --> 00:06:04,596 For example, 121 00:06:04,596 --> 00:06:09,423 let's say I have a big, enormous, infinite field. 122 00:06:09,423 --> 00:06:13,132 I want to cover it with equal pieces, without leaving any gaps. 123 00:06:13,132 --> 00:06:15,256 I could use squares, right? 124 00:06:15,256 --> 00:06:19,222 I could use triangles. Not circles, those leave little gaps. 125 00:06:19,777 --> 00:06:22,134 Which is the best shape to use? 126 00:06:22,134 --> 00:06:26,687 One that covers the same surface, but has a smaller border. 127 00:06:26,687 --> 00:06:31,396 In the year 300, Pappus of Alexandria said the best is to use hexagons, 128 00:06:31,396 --> 00:06:33,243 just like bees do. 129 00:06:33,243 --> 00:06:34,990 But he didn't prove it. 130 00:06:34,990 --> 00:06:37,688 The guy said, "Hexagons, great! Let's go with hexagons!" 131 00:06:37,688 --> 00:06:40,656 He didn't prove it, it remained a conjecture. 132 00:06:40,656 --> 00:06:42,334 "Hexagons!" 133 00:06:42,334 --> 00:06:45,964 And the world, as you know, split into Pappists and anti-Pappists, 134 00:06:45,964 --> 00:06:51,253 until 1700 years later 135 00:06:51,253 --> 00:06:56,707 when in 1999, Thomas Hales proved 136 00:06:56,707 --> 00:07:01,641 that Pappus and the bees were right -- the best shape to use was the hexagon. 137 00:07:01,641 --> 00:07:04,123 And that became a theorem, the honeycomb theorem, 138 00:07:04,123 --> 00:07:06,183 that will be true forever and ever, 139 00:07:06,183 --> 00:07:09,224 for longer than any diamond you may have. (Laughter) 140 00:07:09,229 --> 00:07:12,033 But what happens if we go to three dimensions? 141 00:07:12,033 --> 00:07:15,944 If I want to fill the space with equal pieces, 142 00:07:16,464 --> 00:07:17,805 without leaving any gaps, 143 00:07:17,805 --> 00:07:19,638 I can use cubes, right? 144 00:07:19,638 --> 00:07:22,994 Not spheres, those leave little gaps. (Laughter) 145 00:07:22,994 --> 00:07:25,957 What is the best shape to use? 146 00:07:25,957 --> 00:07:30,017 Lord Kelvin, of the famous Kelvin degrees and all, 147 00:07:30,607 --> 00:07:36,121 said that the best was to use a truncated octahedron 148 00:07:37,791 --> 00:07:40,507 which, as you all know -- 149 00:07:40,507 --> 00:07:42,035 (Laughter) -- 150 00:07:42,035 --> 00:07:43,814 is this thing here! 151 00:07:43,814 --> 00:07:46,753 (Applause) 152 00:07:48,778 --> 00:07:50,225 Come on. 153 00:07:51,025 --> 00:07:53,862 Who doesn't have a truncated octahedron at home? (Laughter) 154 00:07:53,862 --> 00:07:55,089 Even a plastic one. 155 00:07:55,089 --> 00:07:57,846 "Honey, get the truncated octahedron, we're having guests." 156 00:07:57,846 --> 00:07:59,240 Everybody has one! (Laughter) 157 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,614 But Kelvin didn't prove it. 158 00:08:01,614 --> 00:08:05,655 It remained a conjecture -- Kelvin's conjecture. 159 00:08:05,655 --> 00:08:11,177 The world, as you know, then split into Kelvinists and anti-Kelvinists 160 00:08:11,177 --> 00:08:12,599 (Laughter) 161 00:08:12,599 --> 00:08:16,496 until a hundred or so years later, 162 00:08:19,203 --> 00:08:23,072 someone found a better structure. 163 00:08:23,917 --> 00:08:29,026 Weaire and Phelan found this little thing over here -- 164 00:08:29,026 --> 00:08:30,665 (Laughter) -- 165 00:08:30,665 --> 00:08:34,209 this structure to which they gave the very clever name 166 00:08:34,209 --> 00:08:36,375 "the Weaire-Phelan structure." 167 00:08:36,375 --> 00:08:38,911 (Laughter) 168 00:08:38,911 --> 00:08:41,568 It looks like a strange object, but it isn't so strange, 169 00:08:41,568 --> 00:08:43,239 it also exists in nature. 170 00:08:43,239 --> 00:08:45,844 It's very interesting that this structure, 171 00:08:45,844 --> 00:08:48,037 because of its geometric properties, 172 00:08:48,037 --> 00:08:53,229 was used to build the Aquatics Center for the Beijing Olympic Games. 173 00:08:53,969 --> 00:08:56,714 There, Michael Phelps won eight gold medals, 174 00:08:56,714 --> 00:08:59,875 and became the best swimmer of all time. 175 00:08:59,875 --> 00:09:03,616 Well, until someone better comes along, right? 176 00:09:03,616 --> 00:09:06,016 As may happen with the Weaire-Phelan structure. 177 00:09:06,016 --> 00:09:08,633 It's the best until something better shows up. 178 00:09:08,633 --> 00:09:13,225 But be careful, because this one really stands a chance 179 00:09:13,225 --> 00:09:18,205 that in a hundred or so years, or even if it's in 1700 years, 180 00:09:18,205 --> 00:09:23,603 that someone proves it's the best possible shape for the job. 181 00:09:23,978 --> 00:09:28,348 It will then become a theorem, a truth, forever and ever. 182 00:09:28,348 --> 00:09:31,302 For longer than any diamond. 183 00:09:31,837 --> 00:09:35,567 So, if you want to tell someone 184 00:09:36,777 --> 00:09:39,823 that you will love them forever 185 00:09:39,823 --> 00:09:41,890 you can give them a diamond. 186 00:09:41,890 --> 00:09:45,421 But if you want to tell them that you'll love them forever and ever, 187 00:09:45,421 --> 00:09:47,172 give them a theorem! 188 00:09:47,172 --> 00:09:48,263 (Laughter) 189 00:09:48,263 --> 00:09:50,853 But hang on a minute! 190 00:09:51,783 --> 00:09:53,183 You'll have to prove it, 191 00:09:53,183 --> 00:09:55,466 so your love doesn't remain 192 00:09:55,466 --> 00:09:57,299 a conjecture. 193 00:09:57,299 --> 00:10:00,543 (Applause)