WEBVTT 00:00:00.500 --> 00:00:18.571 ♪ theme music ♪ 00:00:18.571 --> 00:00:20.463 (Derek) Welcome to Hope Sabbath School, 00:00:20.463 --> 00:00:22.119 an in-depth, interactive study 00:00:22.119 --> 00:00:23.726 of the Word of God. 00:00:23.726 --> 00:00:25.432 We are in an amazing series, 00:00:25.432 --> 00:00:26.810 Themes in the Gospel of John. 00:00:26.810 --> 00:00:29.040 It has been such a blessing. 00:00:29.040 --> 00:00:31.830 If you've missed any, go to our website, 00:00:31.830 --> 00:00:35.543 hopetv.org/hopess, or Google us, 00:00:35.543 --> 00:00:37.110 Hope Sabbath School, 00:00:37.110 --> 00:00:38.690 go to our YouTube channel. 00:00:38.690 --> 00:00:41.040 You can watch all of the past episodes 00:00:41.040 --> 00:00:42.711 in this series, Themes 00:00:42.711 --> 00:00:43.822 in the Gospel of John, 00:00:43.822 --> 00:00:46.670 today, Blessed Are Those Who Believe. 00:00:46.670 --> 00:00:48.526 We are going to look at some characters 00:00:48.526 --> 00:00:50.302 in the gospel story, but it's 00:00:50.302 --> 00:00:52.675 also a declaration for us 00:00:52.675 --> 00:00:54.968 that we are blessed when we believe. 00:00:54.968 --> 00:00:57.054 So welcome, we're glad you joined us 00:00:57.054 --> 00:00:58.280 for Hope Sabbath School. 00:00:58.280 --> 00:00:59.600 Welcome to the team. 00:00:59.600 --> 00:01:01.402 Take a look at each other and wave. 00:01:01.402 --> 00:01:03.152 We're glad you're all here today. 00:01:03.152 --> 00:01:05.736 You notice I'm particularly excited today 00:01:05.736 --> 00:01:08.168 because Sabina's going to be teaching, 00:01:08.168 --> 00:01:09.537 and we always are blessed 00:01:09.537 --> 00:01:11.215 when our team teachers share 00:01:11.215 --> 00:01:12.469 the Word of God. 00:01:12.469 --> 00:01:14.040 We've got some great team members 00:01:14.040 --> 00:01:16.445 joining us, too, remotely. 00:01:16.445 --> 00:01:18.135 And we're happy to welcome Zandile, 00:01:18.135 --> 00:01:20.403 good to see you with us today. 00:01:20.403 --> 00:01:22.651 And, Cory, great to have you back with us 00:01:22.651 --> 00:01:24.454 as we study the Word of God. 00:01:24.454 --> 00:01:26.136 And we're glad you're with us. 00:01:26.136 --> 00:01:28.500 You say, "Derek, I raise my hand sometimes 00:01:28.500 --> 00:01:30.338 when I want to make a comment." 00:01:30.338 --> 00:01:32.531 Write it down, send it to us, 00:01:32.531 --> 00:01:35.759 sshope@hopetv.org, share with us. 00:01:35.759 --> 00:01:38.170 It's an an in-depth, interactive study, 00:01:38.170 --> 00:01:40.587 not just here, but around the world. 00:01:40.587 --> 00:01:42.876 We're also happy when you write to us, 00:01:42.876 --> 00:01:44.222 because it lets us know 00:01:44.222 --> 00:01:46.170 that God's working, right? 00:01:46.170 --> 00:01:48.278 That's why we do what we do. 00:01:48.278 --> 00:01:52.171 So, here is Ndele who writes from Zambia. 00:01:52.171 --> 00:01:53.012 Do we have a lot 00:01:53.012 --> 00:01:55.848 of Hope Sabbath School members in Zambia? 00:01:55.848 --> 00:01:57.453 Ndele writes and says, 00:01:57.453 --> 00:02:00.187 "Hope Sabbath School is a winning team..." 00:02:00.187 --> 00:02:01.185 (Team) Amen! 00:02:01.185 --> 00:02:03.053 (Derek) "...sharing the message of hope 00:02:03.053 --> 00:02:05.121 and salvation all the way." 00:02:05.121 --> 00:02:07.392 Well, Ndele, I would remind you 00:02:07.392 --> 00:02:09.332 that you're part of the team, 00:02:09.332 --> 00:02:11.236 that we're all part of the team, right, 00:02:11.236 --> 00:02:13.090 because it's a global family, 00:02:13.090 --> 00:02:15.779 not just those of us in the studio. 00:02:15.779 --> 00:02:17.487 Many are downloading the outline 00:02:17.487 --> 00:02:19.366 and teaching interactive Bible studies 00:02:19.366 --> 00:02:20.783 where they live. 00:02:20.783 --> 00:02:22.616 We're all part of the team together. 00:02:22.616 --> 00:02:23.869 Thanks for writing. 00:02:23.869 --> 00:02:27.934 Winston writes to us from Australia. 00:02:27.934 --> 00:02:29.400 Winston says, "Hello, 00:02:29.400 --> 00:02:30.900 Hope Sabbath School." 00:02:30.900 --> 00:02:31.886 (Team) Hello. 00:02:31.886 --> 00:02:33.855 (Derek) I think they know that we'll wave 00:02:33.855 --> 00:02:35.060 if they say that. 00:02:35.060 --> 00:02:37.236 "I was home today, wasn't able 00:02:37.236 --> 00:02:40.528 to go to church, but I watched online, 00:02:40.528 --> 00:02:43.533 and then I started to watch 00:02:43.533 --> 00:02:45.589 Hope Sabbath School, 00:02:45.589 --> 00:02:48.366 and I really enjoyed the program. 00:02:48.366 --> 00:02:49.353 God bless you all." 00:02:49.353 --> 00:02:52.800 Well, some people have a sickness 00:02:52.800 --> 00:02:56.192 or something happens, they can't get out. 00:02:56.192 --> 00:02:58.003 Wherever you are, tell your friends. 00:02:58.003 --> 00:03:01.102 Tell people who maybe can't get to church. 00:03:01.102 --> 00:03:03.493 Tell them to go to Hope Sabbath School 00:03:03.493 --> 00:03:06.254 and study the Word of God with us. 00:03:06.254 --> 00:03:09.730 Here's a short, hand-written note 00:03:09.730 --> 00:03:11.184 from the state of Kansas 00:03:11.184 --> 00:03:13.487 in the United States of America, 00:03:13.487 --> 00:03:15.420 and a donor writes, "Please accept 00:03:15.420 --> 00:03:17.023 this gift in support 00:03:17.023 --> 00:03:18.718 of Hope Sabbath School. 00:03:18.718 --> 00:03:22.649 I've been watching since it started." 00:03:22.649 --> 00:03:24.562 I think we read one who said, "I've been 00:03:24.562 --> 00:03:26.800 watching since last month," right? 00:03:26.800 --> 00:03:29.801 One said 10 years; this donor says, 00:03:29.801 --> 00:03:33.469 "I've been watching since it started. 00:03:33.469 --> 00:03:35.754 In fact, one of your team even came 00:03:35.754 --> 00:03:38.951 to my Bible class and told me about it." 00:03:38.951 --> 00:03:40.866 Well, it's someone who's not here today. 00:03:40.866 --> 00:03:42.392 It's our team member Stephanie. 00:03:42.392 --> 00:03:43.922 Some of you know Stephanie 00:03:43.922 --> 00:03:45.873 who actually went to this person's church 00:03:45.873 --> 00:03:48.630 and told them about Hope Sabbath School. 00:03:48.630 --> 00:03:50.692 And a donation of 100 dollars. 00:03:50.692 --> 00:03:51.560 (Team) Praise God. 00:03:51.560 --> 00:03:54.221 (Derek) Thank you, Donor from Kansas, 00:03:54.221 --> 00:03:55.952 for being part of the miracle. 00:03:55.952 --> 00:03:57.701 We're all working together. 00:03:57.701 --> 00:03:59.853 And thank you to each one of you 00:03:59.853 --> 00:04:02.926 for being part of this mission. 00:04:02.926 --> 00:04:04.208 You can go to our website, 00:04:04.208 --> 00:04:06.969 hopetv.org/hopess, click 00:04:06.969 --> 00:04:09.113 on that little yellow Donate button. 00:04:09.113 --> 00:04:11.135 Or get an address and write to us, 00:04:11.135 --> 00:04:13.032 send a gift, say, "Derek, I want 00:04:13.032 --> 00:04:14.852 to be part of sharing 00:04:14.852 --> 00:04:17.302 the immeasurable, unfailing love of God," 00:04:17.302 --> 00:04:20.433 a message of saving hope as we prepare 00:04:20.433 --> 00:04:21.986 for the soon-coming of Jesus. 00:04:21.986 --> 00:04:23.279 Thank you for your support. 00:04:23.279 --> 00:04:27.303 One last note, from Lil, Lil writes 00:04:27.303 --> 00:04:29.319 and says, "Since God 00:04:29.319 --> 00:04:31.218 brought me back to Him 00:04:31.218 --> 00:04:36.288 after over 25 years away from Him, 00:04:36.288 --> 00:04:40.182 one of the first Bible studies I found was...," you want to guess? 00:04:40.182 --> 00:04:41.486 (Team) Hope Sabbath School. 00:04:41.486 --> 00:04:43.551 (Derek) "...Hope Sabbath School. 00:04:43.551 --> 00:04:46.804 I've been watching every week 00:04:46.804 --> 00:04:51.551 and taking notes, transcribing 00:04:51.551 --> 00:04:55.526 and using the study guide to facilitate 00:04:55.526 --> 00:04:58.620 a Bible class, both for adults 00:04:58.620 --> 00:05:01.000 and also for youth and for people 00:05:01.000 --> 00:05:02.873 who are new to the faith." 00:05:02.873 --> 00:05:04.478 (Team) Wow. Amen. 00:05:04.478 --> 00:05:06.630 (Derek) Lil, you have become 00:05:06.630 --> 00:05:09.369 an evangelist, right? 00:05:09.369 --> 00:05:10.692 Isn't that what Jesus wants 00:05:10.692 --> 00:05:12.202 for all of us, right? 00:05:12.202 --> 00:05:17.647 Blessed Are Those Who Believe. 00:05:17.647 --> 00:05:20.684 "I've gotten so much insight," Lil writes, 00:05:20.684 --> 00:05:25.761 "and other perspectives 00:05:25.761 --> 00:05:29.295 I didn't think about, and it has enhanced 00:05:29.295 --> 00:05:32.884 my love for the Scriptures 00:05:32.884 --> 00:05:34.470 and my love for God..." 00:05:34.470 --> 00:05:35.461 (Team) Amen. 00:05:35.461 --> 00:05:38.218 (Derek) "...so much more that now 00:05:38.218 --> 00:05:40.301 I can share that every week." 00:05:40.301 --> 00:05:41.169 (Team) Amen. 00:05:41.169 --> 00:05:43.048 (Derek) I tell you, I want to meet Lil. 00:05:43.048 --> 00:05:45.236 I'm guessing Lil is an abbreviation 00:05:45.236 --> 00:05:48.091 for the English name Lillian, Lillian, 00:05:48.091 --> 00:05:50.320 but I suppose it could be a nickname. 00:05:50.320 --> 00:05:52.650 Write to us and tell us, Lil, 00:05:52.650 --> 00:05:54.820 sshope@hopetv.org. 00:05:54.820 --> 00:05:56.986 "Thank you for the dedication 00:05:56.986 --> 00:05:59.470 and love for Christ that you share. 00:05:59.470 --> 00:06:00.746 God bless you all." 00:06:00.746 --> 00:06:03.030 Well, I think we'd say "God bless you, too, Lil," 00:06:03.030 --> 00:06:04.083 wouldn't you say that? 00:06:04.083 --> 00:06:05.237 (Team) Yes. 00:06:05.237 --> 00:06:06.678 (Derek) She's teaching adults, 00:06:06.678 --> 00:06:08.952 youth, new believers. 00:06:08.952 --> 00:06:13.344 After 25 years away, 00:06:13.344 --> 00:06:15.804 Jesus brought you home. 00:06:15.804 --> 00:06:17.569 Well, we're glad that you're all part 00:06:17.569 --> 00:06:19.189 of our Hope Sabbath School family. 00:06:19.189 --> 00:06:20.950 That's why we do what we do, 00:06:20.950 --> 00:06:23.810 sharing a message of eternal hope. 00:06:23.810 --> 00:06:26.970 And have you downloaded the gift yet, 00:06:26.970 --> 00:06:29.719 the six Trilogy Scripture Songs 00:06:29.719 --> 00:06:31.488 from the words of Jesus, 00:06:31.488 --> 00:06:32.883 four from the Gospel of John, 00:06:32.883 --> 00:06:34.507 two from the book of Revelation? 00:06:34.507 --> 00:06:36.154 I sing them all the time. 00:06:36.154 --> 00:06:37.788 It's a great way to hide the words 00:06:37.788 --> 00:06:39.432 of Jesus in your heart. 00:06:39.432 --> 00:06:40.589 Just go to our website, 00:06:40.589 --> 00:06:42.050 click on the Free Gift tab. 00:06:42.050 --> 00:06:46.190 You know our website: hopetv.org/hopess. 00:06:46.190 --> 00:06:48.218 Click on the Free Gift tab, and it will 00:06:48.218 --> 00:06:49.364 show you how to download 00:06:49.364 --> 00:06:51.241 those six Trilogy Scripture Songs. 00:06:51.241 --> 00:06:52.849 I want to thank my wife 00:06:52.849 --> 00:06:54.492 for making those available to us 00:06:54.492 --> 00:06:56.413 as a gift to you so that you can 00:06:56.413 --> 00:06:57.885 hide God's Word in your heart. 00:06:57.885 --> 00:06:59.848 And when you're there at the website, 00:06:59.848 --> 00:07:01.600 you can download our theme song 00:07:01.600 --> 00:07:03.971 for this quarter, Behold! The Lamb of God. 00:07:03.971 --> 00:07:05.227 Do you like that song? 00:07:05.227 --> 00:07:07.724 That's a testimony of John the Baptist. 00:07:07.724 --> 00:07:09.311 Let's sing it together. 00:07:09.311 --> 00:07:17.904 ♪ music ♪ 00:09:31.222 --> 00:09:32.473 (Derek) When Jesus comes, 00:09:32.473 --> 00:09:34.468 the dead in Christ rise, and the redeemed 00:09:34.468 --> 00:09:35.755 are all gathered, caught up 00:09:35.755 --> 00:09:37.324 to meet Him in the air, I'm going 00:09:37.324 --> 00:09:38.379 to be looking for John 00:09:38.379 --> 00:09:39.331 the Baptist, Sabina. 00:09:39.331 --> 00:09:41.548 I'm going to thank him for that testimony. 00:09:41.548 --> 00:09:42.832 I'm going to start singing, 00:09:42.832 --> 00:09:44.749 and he says, "I don't know that song." 00:09:44.749 --> 00:09:46.020 And I'll tell him, "Let me 00:09:46.020 --> 00:09:47.437 teach you the song, 00:09:47.437 --> 00:09:49.070 but thank you for your testimony." 00:09:49.070 --> 00:09:50.999 And God bless you as you teach us today. 00:09:50.999 --> 00:09:53.401 (Sabina) Amen. Let's behold 00:09:53.401 --> 00:09:55.636 a little bit more of the Lamb of God 00:09:55.636 --> 00:09:57.758 as we study together. 00:09:57.758 --> 00:10:00.310 But let's start with a prayer. 00:10:00.310 --> 00:10:04.382 Dear Jesus, our Lord, our Savior, 00:10:04.382 --> 00:10:05.762 we are so thankful to be able 00:10:05.762 --> 00:10:08.237 to behold these words here. 00:10:08.237 --> 00:10:09.654 And as we learn 00:10:09.654 --> 00:10:11.702 about the different witnesses [testimonies] 00:10:11.702 --> 00:10:14.522 that were given by all sorts of people 00:10:14.522 --> 00:10:15.650 that You touched 00:10:15.650 --> 00:10:17.898 during Your ministry on this earth, 00:10:17.898 --> 00:10:19.943 we are also moved to grow 00:10:19.943 --> 00:10:21.938 into Your likeness. 00:10:21.938 --> 00:10:24.640 So, as we join together here, 00:10:24.640 --> 00:10:26.090 we ask that Your Holy Spirit, 00:10:26.090 --> 00:10:28.110 just like It rested upon You, 00:10:28.110 --> 00:10:30.080 It will rest upon us also, 00:10:30.080 --> 00:10:31.807 will speak to our hearts 00:10:31.807 --> 00:10:34.424 and impress our minds with truth, 00:10:34.424 --> 00:10:35.534 with the truth that You 00:10:35.534 --> 00:10:38.362 are the Son of God that takes away 00:10:38.362 --> 00:10:40.330 the sin from the world. 00:10:40.330 --> 00:10:43.160 I pray in a special way for every person 00:10:43.160 --> 00:10:44.858 who will be watching this, 00:10:44.858 --> 00:10:47.104 that they will also come to witness 00:10:47.104 --> 00:10:49.265 about Jesus in their lives. 00:10:49.265 --> 00:10:51.209 In Your name we pray. Amen. 00:10:51.209 --> 00:10:52.523 (Derek, Team) Amen. 00:10:52.523 --> 00:10:54.080 (Sabina) Okay, so as we continue 00:10:54.080 --> 00:10:55.912 this series of studies 00:10:55.912 --> 00:10:58.192 on the book of John, I love 00:10:58.192 --> 00:11:00.201 specifically the first [and second verses] 00:11:00.201 --> 00:11:01.914 of the book of John that says, 00:11:01.914 --> 00:11:05.203 "In the beginning was the Word, 00:11:05.203 --> 00:11:07.286 and the Word was with God, 00:11:07.286 --> 00:11:09.253 and the Word was God. 00:11:09.253 --> 00:11:12.421 He was in the beginning with God." 00:11:12.421 --> 00:11:14.181 That gives us the clarity 00:11:14.181 --> 00:11:17.447 that Jesus' testimony and His work 00:11:17.447 --> 00:11:19.770 had not just started when He was 00:11:19.770 --> 00:11:23.665 first seen in Galilee or in Nazareth 00:11:23.665 --> 00:11:26.699 or in Jerusalem, but He had been working 00:11:26.699 --> 00:11:29.491 since the beginning of the world. 00:11:29.491 --> 00:11:31.385 And we are going to start our study 00:11:31.385 --> 00:11:33.224 looking at the witness of a person 00:11:33.224 --> 00:11:34.709 who has not had the privilege 00:11:34.709 --> 00:11:36.734 of seeing Jesus walking 00:11:36.734 --> 00:11:38.986 and ministering on this earth, 00:11:38.986 --> 00:11:41.685 but who has had a prophetic witness 00:11:41.685 --> 00:11:44.307 of the work of Jesus that was happening 00:11:44.307 --> 00:11:47.186 and that was about to happen 00:11:47.186 --> 00:11:50.708 in the future as well, and that's Abraham. 00:11:50.708 --> 00:11:52.900 And so, maybe, Travis, if you'll 00:11:52.900 --> 00:11:55.271 start us off in the study 00:11:55.271 --> 00:11:59.187 by taking us to John 8:56, 00:11:59.187 --> 00:12:00.914 and we are going to see what it was 00:12:00.914 --> 00:12:02.936 that Jesus talked about 00:12:02.936 --> 00:12:04.613 regarding the witness of Abraham 00:12:04.613 --> 00:12:06.421 or the revelation that was given 00:12:06.421 --> 00:12:09.138 to Abraham about Him. 00:12:09.138 --> 00:12:10.470 (Travis) And I'll be reading 00:12:10.470 --> 00:12:12.425 from the New King James Version: 00:12:19.704 --> 00:12:20.880 (Derek) Praise God. 00:12:20.880 --> 00:12:22.797 (Sabina) So, what was the testimony 00:12:22.797 --> 00:12:25.289 of Jesus regarding the revelation that was 00:12:25.289 --> 00:12:30.653 given to Abraham? Anyone. Yes, Gladys. 00:12:30.653 --> 00:12:32.465 (Gladys) That the Messiah would come. 00:12:32.465 --> 00:12:34.247 That revelation was given to Abraham, 00:12:34.247 --> 00:12:37.088 and just imagining that, he was glad. 00:12:37.088 --> 00:12:38.123 (Sabina) He was glad; 00:12:38.123 --> 00:12:40.227 he would rejoice. Yes, Puia. 00:12:40.227 --> 00:12:42.190 (Puia) I believe there was also the story 00:12:42.190 --> 00:12:43.463 where God asked Abraham 00:12:43.463 --> 00:12:45.928 to sacrifice his son, Isaac. 00:12:45.928 --> 00:12:48.570 Just before he sacrificed Isaac, 00:12:48.570 --> 00:12:50.737 the angel stopped him, and God 00:12:50.737 --> 00:12:53.709 provided a ram in the place of Isaac. 00:12:53.709 --> 00:12:57.285 And I believe God let Abraham understand 00:12:57.285 --> 00:12:59.499 at that point in time that in the future 00:12:59.499 --> 00:13:01.980 there would come a Savior, the Messiah, 00:13:01.980 --> 00:13:04.610 who would be sacrificed on behalf 00:13:04.610 --> 00:13:05.947 of the people of this world. 00:13:05.947 --> 00:13:10.142 And so Abraham foresaw Jesus' day. 00:13:10.142 --> 00:13:11.990 (Sabina) Okay, so we are seeing here 00:13:11.990 --> 00:13:14.550 that Jesus made this testimony 00:13:14.550 --> 00:13:17.271 about the revelation that Abraham had, 00:13:17.271 --> 00:13:19.312 and it seemed like that one of the moments 00:13:19.312 --> 00:13:20.898 where Jesus (and God) was 00:13:20.898 --> 00:13:23.489 unveiling Himself to Abraham 00:13:23.489 --> 00:13:25.149 was, for instance, in this episode 00:13:25.149 --> 00:13:26.939 that you are now reading, right? 00:13:26.939 --> 00:13:28.968 So we do have some passages here 00:13:28.968 --> 00:13:30.682 that we are going to look at today 00:13:30.682 --> 00:13:32.930 in the Old Testament, in Genesis, 00:13:32.930 --> 00:13:35.355 the very first book of the Bible, 00:13:35.355 --> 00:13:38.639 that will give us evidence of the ways 00:13:38.639 --> 00:13:40.758 in which Jesus was already revealing 00:13:40.758 --> 00:13:42.424 Himself to Abraham, 00:13:42.424 --> 00:13:43.822 and not only to Abraham 00:13:43.822 --> 00:13:46.995 but all the nations around him 00:13:46.995 --> 00:13:49.560 who were to be blessed by this testimony. 00:13:49.560 --> 00:13:51.720 Okay, so maybe, Puia, since you 00:13:51.720 --> 00:13:54.695 already initiated us with some 00:13:54.695 --> 00:13:56.990 of those stories, if you'll take us 00:13:56.990 --> 00:13:59.758 to Genesis 12:3. 00:13:59.758 --> 00:14:01.322 (Puia) Sure, and I'll be reading 00:14:01.322 --> 00:14:03.187 from the New King James Version, 00:14:03.187 --> 00:14:05.439 Genesis, chapter 12, verse 3: 00:14:17.240 --> 00:14:18.991 (Sabina) So we see here especially 00:14:18.991 --> 00:14:20.309 that what was happening was 00:14:20.309 --> 00:14:22.643 the call of Abraham. 00:14:22.643 --> 00:14:25.531 And already in this call of Abraham, 00:14:25.531 --> 00:14:28.331 there was a promise, and it was a promise 00:14:28.331 --> 00:14:31.140 that was pointing to Jesus. 00:14:31.140 --> 00:14:34.100 Maybe, Joshua, can you take us 00:14:34.100 --> 00:14:38.617 to Genesis 18, verses 17 and 18. 00:14:38.617 --> 00:14:40.425 (Joshua) Of course. I'll be reading 00:14:40.425 --> 00:14:42.411 from the New King James Version: 00:14:57.225 --> 00:15:00.643 (Sabina) Okay, so, is that revelation 00:15:00.643 --> 00:15:02.610 also happening here in this event? 00:15:02.610 --> 00:15:03.566 Which event is that? 00:15:03.566 --> 00:15:04.792 Do you have any thoughts? 00:15:04.792 --> 00:15:06.919 Can you see the revelation of Jesus 00:15:06.919 --> 00:15:09.762 occurring here also? Yes, Travis. 00:15:09.762 --> 00:15:11.062 (Travis) It is occurring 00:15:11.062 --> 00:15:14.767 through his son Isaac, because Jesus 00:15:14.767 --> 00:15:15.809 would end up coming 00:15:15.809 --> 00:15:18.837 through the lineage of Abraham. 00:15:18.837 --> 00:15:20.047 (Sabina) In fact, that is 00:15:20.047 --> 00:15:21.455 a very important event 00:15:21.455 --> 00:15:24.994 of the revelation of God to Abraham 00:15:24.994 --> 00:15:26.023 and to us as well. 00:15:26.023 --> 00:15:27.416 I think that's also mentioned 00:15:27.416 --> 00:15:28.438 in the New Testament. 00:15:28.438 --> 00:15:30.273 We are eventually going to get there, 00:15:30.273 --> 00:15:31.684 but there is one more passage 00:15:31.684 --> 00:15:34.472 in the Old Testament that we can look at 00:15:34.472 --> 00:15:38.295 in chapter 22, verses 13 to 18, 00:15:38.295 --> 00:15:41.654 and maybe let's have Cory take us there. 00:15:41.654 --> 00:15:44.660 And that's just another passage 00:15:44.660 --> 00:15:48.261 where we can see the revelation of Jesus 00:15:48.261 --> 00:15:50.417 already in the time 00:15:50.417 --> 00:15:53.307 of the Old Testament. Cory. 00:15:53.307 --> 00:15:57.567 (Cory) Yes, Genesis 22:13-18, 00:15:57.567 --> 00:15:59.168 in the New King James: 00:17:08.772 --> 00:17:10.312 (Derek, Team) Amen. 00:17:10.312 --> 00:17:12.672 (Sabina) So we see here not once, 00:17:12.672 --> 00:17:14.931 not twice, but at least three times 00:17:14.931 --> 00:17:16.584 in which this promise 00:17:16.584 --> 00:17:19.038 of the coming special blessing 00:17:19.038 --> 00:17:21.460 through the seed of Abraham was going 00:17:21.460 --> 00:17:24.524 to be revealed in Jesus. Yes, Travis. 00:17:24.524 --> 00:17:26.323 (Travis) I just want to make a point. 00:17:26.323 --> 00:17:29.953 In verse 8, Abraham says, "My son, 00:17:29.953 --> 00:17:31.189 the Lord will provide 00:17:31.189 --> 00:17:33.298 a burnt offering Himself." 00:17:33.298 --> 00:17:34.936 Many scholars believe 00:17:34.936 --> 00:17:36.388 that there should be a comma, 00:17:36.388 --> 00:17:38.579 "The Lord will provide Himself, 00:17:38.579 --> 00:17:40.710 a burnt offering," and I agree with that. 00:17:40.710 --> 00:17:43.227 I think it was revealed to him that God 00:17:43.227 --> 00:17:45.235 would provide Himself, 00:17:45.235 --> 00:17:46.923 the Lamb to be slain, as we've been 00:17:46.923 --> 00:17:49.201 talking about with John the Baptist. 00:17:49.201 --> 00:17:50.211 (Sabina) Those are 00:17:50.211 --> 00:17:51.451 very interesting thoughts. 00:17:51.451 --> 00:17:52.593 Indeed, we know for sure 00:17:52.593 --> 00:17:55.033 that it was His provision of Himself 00:17:55.033 --> 00:17:56.585 that granted us to have 00:17:56.585 --> 00:17:58.485 this blessing in Christ. 00:17:58.485 --> 00:18:00.240 So we are going to be looking now 00:18:00.240 --> 00:18:02.285 at a couple of verses in the New Testament 00:18:02.285 --> 00:18:04.020 that confirm this truth. 00:18:04.020 --> 00:18:07.230 Can we please turn to the book of Matthew, 00:18:07.230 --> 00:18:09.454 and I'm going to ask Viara, 00:18:09.454 --> 00:18:10.788 Viara, if you'll lead us 00:18:10.788 --> 00:18:13.503 to the first chapter of Matthew, 00:18:13.503 --> 00:18:15.621 and it's going to be verse 1. 00:18:15.621 --> 00:18:17.885 And we are going to be looking here 00:18:17.885 --> 00:18:20.900 at a New Testament writing that confirms 00:18:20.900 --> 00:18:22.338 the revelation that was given 00:18:22.338 --> 00:18:24.857 to Abraham about Jesus. 00:18:24.857 --> 00:18:25.777 (Viara) I'm reading 00:18:25.777 --> 00:18:27.566 from the New Living Translation: 00:18:36.140 --> 00:18:38.011 (Sabina) Okay, and do we 00:18:38.011 --> 00:18:39.362 have any thoughts here 00:18:39.362 --> 00:18:41.976 about this particular verse? Yes, Puia. 00:18:41.976 --> 00:18:43.678 (Puia) For us, I believe we take it 00:18:43.678 --> 00:18:46.319 for granted that Matthew started 00:18:46.319 --> 00:18:48.138 his account of the story of Jesus 00:18:48.138 --> 00:18:50.849 with the genealogy because we just read it 00:18:50.849 --> 00:18:52.566 like, "Oh, it's just another story." 00:18:52.566 --> 00:18:55.556 But the Jews at that point in time 00:18:55.556 --> 00:18:57.780 had been expecting the Messiah to come 00:18:57.780 --> 00:19:00.587 from the lineage of Abraham and David. 00:19:00.587 --> 00:19:04.261 And so Matthew intentionally starting 00:19:04.261 --> 00:19:06.411 the story of Jesus by pointing them 00:19:06.411 --> 00:19:08.692 back to Abraham should remind them 00:19:08.692 --> 00:19:12.576 of that promise that this Jesus, indeed, 00:19:12.576 --> 00:19:15.851 is that promised blessing from Abraham. 00:19:15.851 --> 00:19:17.024 (Sabina) That's awesome. 00:19:17.024 --> 00:19:18.733 I think it's so beautiful, the ways 00:19:18.733 --> 00:19:20.557 in which the Holy Spirit has impressed 00:19:20.557 --> 00:19:22.879 the different writers to give the witness 00:19:22.879 --> 00:19:24.592 that was important in their context. 00:19:24.592 --> 00:19:26.776 Because we see that for Matthew 00:19:26.776 --> 00:19:29.958 it was so important to refer to Abraham, 00:19:29.958 --> 00:19:32.120 while for John, he decided to even go 00:19:32.120 --> 00:19:34.070 back to Genesis, right? 00:19:34.070 --> 00:19:39.894 So let's look also at Acts 3:25,26, 00:19:39.894 --> 00:19:41.324 and maybe, Jason, if you could 00:19:41.324 --> 00:19:43.154 read that text for us. 00:19:43.154 --> 00:19:44.873 (Jason) Alright, and I'll be reading 00:19:44.873 --> 00:19:46.474 from the New King James Version, 00:19:46.474 --> 00:19:51.417 Acts, chapter 3, verses 25 and 26: 00:20:01.392 --> 00:20:02.754 Verse 26: 00:20:13.681 --> 00:20:15.254 (Sabina) Yes, that's awesome. 00:20:15.254 --> 00:20:19.086 So we can see that God has preached 00:20:19.086 --> 00:20:23.374 the gospel through type and promise. 00:20:23.374 --> 00:20:25.853 You know, these prophecies that we see, 00:20:25.853 --> 00:20:28.243 even in the time of Abraham 00:20:28.243 --> 00:20:29.981 were already giving evidence 00:20:29.981 --> 00:20:31.525 of God's love and presence 00:20:31.525 --> 00:20:33.241 to them back in that day. 00:20:33.241 --> 00:20:35.787 So it's important that we keep in mind 00:20:35.787 --> 00:20:37.747 that the witness that is given to Jesus 00:20:37.747 --> 00:20:39.927 is not just about the stories that we read 00:20:39.927 --> 00:20:41.234 in the New Testament, 00:20:41.234 --> 00:20:43.443 but also all throughout eternity. 00:20:43.443 --> 00:20:46.226 From eternity to eternity, there are 00:20:46.226 --> 00:20:47.949 a lot of witnesses that we are going 00:20:47.949 --> 00:20:49.777 to hear about Jesus. Yes, Travis. 00:20:49.777 --> 00:20:51.666 (Travis) If I may, I would like to read 00:20:51.666 --> 00:20:52.862 from the book of Hebrews, 00:20:52.862 --> 00:20:54.652 because it wasn't just the writings 00:20:54.652 --> 00:20:56.185 about Abraham that confirmed; 00:20:56.185 --> 00:20:59.424 it was his life that confirmed it. 00:20:59.424 --> 00:21:04.436 Hebrews, chapter 11, verses 9 and 10, 00:21:04.436 --> 00:21:06.094 if I could read that. 00:21:06.094 --> 00:21:08.427 Hebrews, chapter 11:9,10, says: 00:21:24.533 --> 00:21:26.809 He did not just believe 00:21:26.809 --> 00:21:28.152 that the Messiah would come, 00:21:28.152 --> 00:21:29.262 he believed His mission 00:21:29.262 --> 00:21:30.380 would be successful. 00:21:30.380 --> 00:21:31.727 (Sabina) That's wonderful, 00:21:31.727 --> 00:21:32.970 thank you so much, Travis. 00:21:32.970 --> 00:21:34.393 And it's awesome to also see, 00:21:34.393 --> 00:21:35.946 just like as we witnessed 00:21:35.946 --> 00:21:38.360 in our previous studies, how God 00:21:38.360 --> 00:21:41.070 has this way of revealing Himself. 00:21:41.070 --> 00:21:42.588 You know, little by little, 00:21:42.588 --> 00:21:44.223 He puts the seed. 00:21:44.223 --> 00:21:46.226 He explores an experience of a person. 00:21:46.226 --> 00:21:49.640 Altogether, He brings us to see HIs work 00:21:49.640 --> 00:21:52.295 all throughout history. Yes, Viara. 00:21:52.295 --> 00:21:53.861 (Viara) And I guess His plan was 00:21:53.861 --> 00:21:56.980 not to just be a God of the generation 00:21:56.980 --> 00:21:59.354 of Abraham by blood, but all 00:21:59.354 --> 00:22:01.689 that spiritually would accept Jesus. 00:22:01.689 --> 00:22:03.600 And how awesome it will be if one day 00:22:03.600 --> 00:22:06.358 it says, "And He was the God of Jacob, 00:22:06.358 --> 00:22:09.012 the God of Abraham, the God of Viara." 00:22:09.012 --> 00:22:10.966 That's what I want to hear one day. 00:22:10.966 --> 00:22:12.882 (Sabina) Yes. Isn't it in Galatians, 00:22:12.882 --> 00:22:15.128 I think it's Galatians 3:8, 00:22:15.128 --> 00:22:17.119 if I'm not mistaken, but if it's not, 00:22:17.119 --> 00:22:21.612 we will find it, that actually the Bible 00:22:21.612 --> 00:22:24.586 says that even Abraham was justified 00:22:24.586 --> 00:22:26.757 by faith in Christ, right? 00:22:26.757 --> 00:22:28.450 So there is no such person 00:22:28.450 --> 00:22:31.430 that has existed or that will exist 00:22:31.430 --> 00:22:33.554 that would not require the sacrifice 00:22:33.554 --> 00:22:37.059 of Jesus as the source of their salvation. 00:22:37.059 --> 00:22:38.984 Okay, so, I sometimes hear people 00:22:38.984 --> 00:22:40.860 [ask] this question, "What happened 00:22:40.860 --> 00:22:43.414 to those that came before Jesus? 00:22:43.414 --> 00:22:46.780 Would they be able to benefit 00:22:46.780 --> 00:22:47.789 [from] the blessing 00:22:47.789 --> 00:22:49.554 of the sacrifice of Jesus?" 00:22:49.554 --> 00:22:50.660 And what is the answer? 00:22:50.660 --> 00:22:51.580 (Derek) Absolutely. 00:22:51.580 --> 00:22:52.530 (Sabina) Of course. 00:22:52.530 --> 00:22:54.147 There would be no other way. 00:22:54.147 --> 00:22:56.970 There was no plan A and now plan B 00:22:56.970 --> 00:22:58.681 or plan Z, so the plan has 00:22:58.681 --> 00:23:01.396 always been the same from eternity 00:23:01.396 --> 00:23:02.767 through eternity. Amen? 00:23:02.767 --> 00:23:03.710 (Derek, Team) Amen. 00:23:03.710 --> 00:23:04.720 (Sabina) We are going 00:23:04.720 --> 00:23:06.256 to be looking now at the witness 00:23:06.256 --> 00:23:08.402 of a beautiful, beautiful story here 00:23:08.402 --> 00:23:10.108 that was left in the book of John. 00:23:10.108 --> 00:23:12.122 It's the witness of Mary. 00:23:12.122 --> 00:23:14.001 So we move from the prophetic witness 00:23:14.001 --> 00:23:16.710 of Abraham to now learn about the witness 00:23:16.710 --> 00:23:18.907 of a person that actually spent time 00:23:18.907 --> 00:23:20.641 with Jesus and saw Jesus 00:23:20.641 --> 00:23:22.356 right in front of her. 00:23:22.356 --> 00:23:24.690 So maybe, Gladys, if you'll take us 00:23:24.690 --> 00:23:26.890 to the book of John, and we are going 00:23:26.890 --> 00:23:30.625 to start off in chapter 12, 00:23:30.625 --> 00:23:33.322 and if you'll read verses 1 to 3. 00:23:33.322 --> 00:23:34.424 And I would like us all 00:23:34.424 --> 00:23:36.161 to already be considering, 00:23:36.161 --> 00:23:39.110 why did Mary anoint the feet of Jesus 00:23:39.110 --> 00:23:42.519 with an expensive ointment? Gladys. 00:23:42.519 --> 00:23:43.693 (Gladys) And I'm reading 00:23:43.693 --> 00:23:45.370 from the New International Version, 00:23:45.370 --> 00:23:48.760 John, chapter 12, verses 1 to 3: 00:24:25.287 --> 00:24:26.682 (Sabina) So why do you think 00:24:26.682 --> 00:24:28.737 that Mary anointed the feet...? Yes, Jason. 00:24:28.737 --> 00:24:30.375 (Jason) We understand that it was 00:24:30.375 --> 00:24:32.458 before His burial, you know, that He 00:24:32.458 --> 00:24:34.466 would be anointed, but also her devotion. 00:24:34.466 --> 00:24:36.241 I mean, this woman had been delivered 00:24:36.241 --> 00:24:37.442 from, like, seven demons, 00:24:37.442 --> 00:24:38.510 so her love for Jesus, 00:24:38.510 --> 00:24:40.730 she was always at His feet, and so this is 00:24:40.730 --> 00:24:42.624 an opportunity for her to express that 00:24:42.624 --> 00:24:44.419 in such a loving way. 00:24:44.419 --> 00:24:45.429 (Sabina) Yes, Derek. 00:24:45.429 --> 00:24:47.361 (Derek) So, I can only conclude 00:24:47.361 --> 00:24:50.120 that she was led by the Spirit to do that. 00:24:50.120 --> 00:24:52.744 This was very intimate, I mean, pouring 00:24:52.744 --> 00:24:58.113 and wiping with her hair. 00:24:58.113 --> 00:24:58.993 I don't think she 00:24:58.993 --> 00:25:00.954 thought that up by herself. 00:25:00.954 --> 00:25:03.308 I think the Holy Spirit impressed her. 00:25:03.308 --> 00:25:05.584 I'm not sure she even fully realized 00:25:05.584 --> 00:25:07.801 she was anointing for His burial. 00:25:07.801 --> 00:25:10.140 I think Jason's right; she was thinking, 00:25:10.140 --> 00:25:11.922 "Well, I love my Savior; 00:25:11.922 --> 00:25:13.940 He's delivered me." 00:25:13.940 --> 00:25:17.200 But sometimes I believe the Holy Spirit 00:25:17.200 --> 00:25:20.402 impresses us to do things, and later we 00:25:20.402 --> 00:25:24.472 may understand the full implications 00:25:24.472 --> 00:25:25.476 of what we're doing. 00:25:25.476 --> 00:25:27.089 (Sabina) That's right, so she was 00:25:27.089 --> 00:25:28.507 surely very devoted. 00:25:28.507 --> 00:25:30.594 She had already experienced Jesus 00:25:30.594 --> 00:25:32.027 to a point that she would do 00:25:32.027 --> 00:25:36.308 such a pouring out of the things 00:25:36.308 --> 00:25:37.540 that she had on hand 00:25:37.540 --> 00:25:39.710 as an expression of her inner experience 00:25:39.710 --> 00:25:41.274 with God. Yes, Puia. 00:25:41.274 --> 00:25:43.924 (Puia) Some have noted that she spent 00:25:43.924 --> 00:25:48.377 a year's wage on that anointment. 00:25:48.377 --> 00:25:49.384 Think about that, 00:25:49.384 --> 00:25:51.319 like one whole year's wage; 00:25:51.319 --> 00:25:53.226 that's a lot of money. 00:25:53.226 --> 00:25:56.086 And for her to be willing to dedicate that 00:25:56.086 --> 00:25:58.060 to Jesus shows that she 00:25:58.060 --> 00:25:59.874 really loved Jesus, and she was 00:25:59.874 --> 00:26:01.933 fully surrendered to Jesus. 00:26:01.933 --> 00:26:03.125 (Sabina) That's right. 00:26:03.125 --> 00:26:04.541 And you know what I think is 00:26:04.541 --> 00:26:07.087 so interesting is that Jesus is known 00:26:07.087 --> 00:26:11.544 as the Christ or also the Messiah, 00:26:11.544 --> 00:26:13.310 and if there is one time apart 00:26:13.310 --> 00:26:15.525 from when we see that Jesus 00:26:15.525 --> 00:26:17.145 was anointed in His baptism 00:26:17.145 --> 00:26:18.832 by the Holy Spirit, 00:26:18.832 --> 00:26:24.256 we would say that the only time 00:26:24.256 --> 00:26:26.792 we see in the New Testament when Jesus 00:26:26.792 --> 00:26:28.960 is actually being anointed 00:26:28.960 --> 00:26:31.103 with oil is this event. 00:26:31.103 --> 00:26:33.194 Have you considered that? 00:26:33.194 --> 00:26:36.280 So, not only do we see here the testimony 00:26:36.280 --> 00:26:39.055 of a woman who had a love for Jesus, 00:26:39.055 --> 00:26:40.957 but God was also using her 00:26:40.957 --> 00:26:42.123 in a very special way. 00:26:42.123 --> 00:26:44.759 Anointings were given to kings 00:26:44.759 --> 00:26:47.941 and to people who had a special role 00:26:47.941 --> 00:26:52.181 to play, and God used this woman, 00:26:52.181 --> 00:26:57.100 of all people, a person that had a heart 00:26:57.100 --> 00:27:01.271 to pour, to do this very anointing 00:27:01.271 --> 00:27:04.249 that was done only by the high priests 00:27:04.249 --> 00:27:06.489 in very specific situations. 00:27:06.489 --> 00:27:09.208 Okay, yes, Cory. 00:27:09.208 --> 00:27:10.994 (Cory) I was just going to add to it, 00:27:10.994 --> 00:27:12.911 and it actually goes along with what you 00:27:12.911 --> 00:27:13.980 were saying perfectly. 00:27:13.980 --> 00:27:15.555 If you've ever smelled spikenard, 00:27:15.555 --> 00:27:17.692 it's very, very strong. 00:27:17.692 --> 00:27:19.393 And so, this being done 00:27:19.393 --> 00:27:22.395 before His crucifixion, it probably was 00:27:22.395 --> 00:27:24.181 very strong on Him still 00:27:24.181 --> 00:27:25.914 throughout that whole time. 00:27:25.914 --> 00:27:27.514 So, if you think about the people 00:27:27.514 --> 00:27:30.956 He interacted with during that time, 00:27:30.956 --> 00:27:32.826 smelling the smell of kings, 00:27:32.826 --> 00:27:35.397 of the wealthy, and they're crucifying 00:27:35.397 --> 00:27:38.828 this Man who had done nothing wrong, 00:27:38.828 --> 00:27:40.757 it's another blessing 00:27:40.757 --> 00:27:42.916 or another aspect to think about. 00:27:42.916 --> 00:27:44.255 (Sabina) That's right, Cory. 00:27:44.255 --> 00:27:46.239 And not only that, but if you look 00:27:46.239 --> 00:27:48.287 a little further in John, chapter 12, 00:27:48.287 --> 00:27:51.407 we are going to see the Triumphal Entry 00:27:51.407 --> 00:27:53.579 of Jesus in this last last week, 00:27:53.579 --> 00:27:55.111 in the Passion week. 00:27:55.111 --> 00:27:58.558 So imagine that Jesus entered Jerusalem 00:27:58.558 --> 00:28:01.110 with that smell of a king. 00:28:01.110 --> 00:28:03.142 Right, think about this. 00:28:03.142 --> 00:28:05.089 So we are going to look a little further 00:28:05.089 --> 00:28:08.115 into that story, and maybe, Tendi, 00:28:08.115 --> 00:28:10.839 if you will read for us from John, 00:28:10.839 --> 00:28:13.653 chapter 12, from verses 4 to 8, 00:28:13.653 --> 00:28:15.418 and we are going to see the reactions 00:28:15.418 --> 00:28:16.767 of some of those present 00:28:16.767 --> 00:28:18.700 to this outpouring of love from her. 00:28:18.700 --> 00:28:20.478 What did they say, and how did 00:28:20.478 --> 00:28:22.697 Jesus respond to them? 00:28:22.697 --> 00:28:24.494 (Tendi) Thank you, Sabina, and I'll 00:28:24.494 --> 00:28:27.170 be reading from the New King James: 00:29:14.926 --> 00:29:16.019 (Sabina) Oh, wow. 00:29:16.019 --> 00:29:17.939 So, what are some of the reactions 00:29:17.939 --> 00:29:19.611 you see here, and how did Jesus 00:29:19.611 --> 00:29:24.361 respond to them? Yes, Jason. 00:29:24.361 --> 00:29:27.070 (Jason) Of course, it looked like it was a waste of money. 00:29:27.070 --> 00:29:28.650 Like, why would you even do that? 00:29:28.650 --> 00:29:29.772 It could be better used 00:29:29.772 --> 00:29:31.520 for something else, like the "poor." 00:29:31.520 --> 00:29:34.125 But we understand that that wasn't the motive of Judas. 00:29:34.125 --> 00:29:36.623 (Sabina) Right, of all people, it would be 00:29:36.623 --> 00:29:39.091 Judas who was the one criticizing 00:29:39.091 --> 00:29:41.296 her gesture, right? Derek. 00:29:41.296 --> 00:29:43.392 (Derek) I like how you emphasized 00:29:43.392 --> 00:29:46.760 that that fragrance stayed with Jesus. 00:29:46.760 --> 00:29:50.950 And I wonder if Mary looked back and said, 00:29:50.950 --> 00:29:53.548 "That was even more significant 00:29:53.548 --> 00:29:55.716 than I ever realized." 00:29:55.716 --> 00:29:58.631 In fact, when Jesus said, "She anointed me 00:29:58.631 --> 00:30:00.221 for my burial," I wonder 00:30:00.221 --> 00:30:04.415 if she [looked wide-eyed], right? 00:30:04.415 --> 00:30:07.404 We may think, well, no, she understood 00:30:07.404 --> 00:30:08.861 all of that; everything was... 00:30:08.861 --> 00:30:11.496 I imagine, back to our lives, 00:30:11.496 --> 00:30:13.030 when the Holy Spirit guides us 00:30:13.030 --> 00:30:17.016 to be a witness of Jesus, who He is, 00:30:17.016 --> 00:30:20.218 that God can do miraculous things. 00:30:20.218 --> 00:30:23.930 And we'll look back with joy and say, 00:30:23.930 --> 00:30:28.182 "God, You're amazing!" Right? 00:30:28.182 --> 00:30:29.654 (Sabina) That's beautiful. 00:30:29.654 --> 00:30:31.998 And His attitude towards her 00:30:31.998 --> 00:30:34.810 was one of acceptance, of affirmation. 00:30:34.810 --> 00:30:38.224 It was not like Judas, of trying 00:30:38.224 --> 00:30:43.240 to tell her to withhold from serving Him in love. 00:30:43.240 --> 00:30:45.343 But I think it's very important also 00:30:45.343 --> 00:30:47.620 for me to highlight here that Judas 00:30:47.620 --> 00:30:50.390 was part of the entourage of Jesus. 00:30:50.390 --> 00:30:52.648 He had a big responsibility, 00:30:52.648 --> 00:30:55.801 the responsibility of carrying the funds 00:30:55.801 --> 00:30:57.880 that were to be used in their mission. 00:30:57.880 --> 00:31:00.530 And of all people, the one 00:31:00.530 --> 00:31:04.726 who had been entrusted with that power, 00:31:04.726 --> 00:31:06.512 he was the one who was criticizing 00:31:06.512 --> 00:31:08.111 the very person that God was 00:31:08.111 --> 00:31:11.377 about to use. Yes, Travis. 00:31:11.377 --> 00:31:15.924 (Travis) As I was reading and thinking 00:31:15.924 --> 00:31:17.737 about this story, I was most impressed 00:31:17.737 --> 00:31:20.085 with how Jesus responded, 00:31:20.085 --> 00:31:21.918 and that is, "Let her alone." 00:31:21.918 --> 00:31:22.918 (Sabina) Right. 00:31:22.918 --> 00:31:24.356 (Travis) He's always concerned 00:31:24.356 --> 00:31:27.697 about His people, you know. 00:31:27.697 --> 00:31:30.298 John, chapter 10, "I have them 00:31:30.298 --> 00:31:31.866 in My hands, and no one can 00:31:31.866 --> 00:31:33.711 snatch them out of My hands." 00:31:33.711 --> 00:31:36.081 Here He's coming to her aid. 00:31:36.081 --> 00:31:37.990 She's serving Him and He says, 00:31:37.990 --> 00:31:39.618 "Leave her alone." 00:31:39.618 --> 00:31:41.190 I was just impressed by that. 00:31:41.190 --> 00:31:43.174 (Sabina) That's quite outstanding, right, 00:31:43.174 --> 00:31:45.316 especially in a context where women 00:31:45.316 --> 00:31:48.860 were not seen or regarded in society 00:31:48.860 --> 00:31:51.039 as having a word or being able 00:31:51.039 --> 00:31:53.663 to [spend so much money 00:31:53.663 --> 00:31:55.834 on something] of their own volition. 00:31:55.834 --> 00:31:57.464 I wonder if someone was wondering, 00:31:57.464 --> 00:32:00.299 "Oh, did she get permission from Lazarus?" 00:32:00.299 --> 00:32:02.948 She was a sister of Lazarus. 00:32:02.948 --> 00:32:04.720 It crosses my mind. 00:32:04.720 --> 00:32:08.744 But now she is being defended by Jesus 00:32:08.744 --> 00:32:10.263 who not only accepts that 00:32:10.263 --> 00:32:11.614 but also makes sure to say, 00:32:11.614 --> 00:32:14.277 "Let her alone; she is Mine." 00:32:14.277 --> 00:32:17.761 So, let's make sure, when we also see 00:32:17.761 --> 00:32:19.663 the outpouring of an expression of love 00:32:19.663 --> 00:32:21.675 from people towards God, that we are able 00:32:21.675 --> 00:32:24.008 to recognize it and be sensitive. 00:32:24.008 --> 00:32:25.340 And how are some of the ways 00:32:25.340 --> 00:32:29.424 that we, ourselves, can also express love 00:32:29.424 --> 00:32:32.296 to Jesus as our Messiah? Yes, Viara. 00:32:32.296 --> 00:32:34.141 (Viara) I talk to more and more people 00:32:34.141 --> 00:32:35.960 who say, "Well, I'm saved, so there is 00:32:35.960 --> 00:32:38.235 nothing really I can do to deserve 00:32:38.235 --> 00:32:40.076 my salvation," or, "I can stay 00:32:40.076 --> 00:32:42.558 the way I am, and I don't have 00:32:42.558 --> 00:32:43.728 to do anything for God." 00:32:43.728 --> 00:32:46.527 But I think Jesus said, "If you love Me, 00:32:46.527 --> 00:32:48.033 you will keep My commandments." 00:32:48.033 --> 00:32:49.658 And for me, this is like when you 00:32:49.658 --> 00:32:50.518 are in a marriage. 00:32:50.518 --> 00:32:52.355 You don't have to do anything, but you 00:32:52.355 --> 00:32:54.050 do it because you love this person. 00:32:54.050 --> 00:32:56.025 And if you never talk about your husband, 00:32:56.025 --> 00:32:59.594 and if you never talk to him, about him, 00:32:59.594 --> 00:33:01.425 or listen to him, then maybe you don't 00:33:01.425 --> 00:33:03.711 have a real relationship with him. 00:33:03.711 --> 00:33:07.850 (Sabina) Okay, so [one very important way 00:33:07.850 --> 00:33:09.461 we can pour out love] towards God 00:33:09.461 --> 00:33:12.723 [is to pour out love] towards people, 00:33:12.723 --> 00:33:15.060 because this is the heart of the Law, 00:33:15.060 --> 00:33:17.050 love for God and love for people. 00:33:17.050 --> 00:33:20.539 We do those things because He loved us, 00:33:20.539 --> 00:33:24.060 and so we also are invited to be loving. 00:33:24.060 --> 00:33:26.071 Any other thoughts? Yes, Jason. 00:33:26.071 --> 00:33:27.890 (Jason) There are a plethora of things 00:33:27.890 --> 00:33:29.783 we can do to be able to show that love. 00:33:29.783 --> 00:33:31.555 But what I like to do is actually go 00:33:31.555 --> 00:33:33.275 to food pantries and help people out 00:33:33.275 --> 00:33:34.023 because I know, 00:33:34.023 --> 00:33:35.259 especially in this economy 00:33:35.259 --> 00:33:37.256 things are hard, so I am able to be there 00:33:37.256 --> 00:33:40.560 to be the feet and hands of Jesus 00:33:40.560 --> 00:33:42.351 during those times to help people out 00:33:42.351 --> 00:33:43.374 with an actual meal. 00:33:43.374 --> 00:33:45.750 (Sabina) Okay, so charitable deeds also. 00:33:45.750 --> 00:33:51.080 I also saw Zandile; you had your hand up? 00:33:51.080 --> 00:33:53.438 (Zandile) Yes, and I wanted to say 00:33:53.438 --> 00:33:58.271 that Judas was not of the same nature 00:33:58.271 --> 00:34:01.030 as Jesus Christ; he was one of the twelve 00:34:01.030 --> 00:34:02.175 when he was thinking 00:34:02.175 --> 00:34:03.504 [of things differently] 00:34:03.504 --> 00:34:06.215 from the nature of Jesus Christ. 00:34:06.215 --> 00:34:08.223 And one of the [ways in which] 00:34:08.223 --> 00:34:11.010 we can express our love to other people 00:34:11.010 --> 00:34:13.911 is to be of the same mindset 00:34:13.911 --> 00:34:15.344 as Jesus Christ and have 00:34:15.344 --> 00:34:16.880 the nature of God, the kindness 00:34:16.880 --> 00:34:19.675 of God within us, so that it flows 00:34:19.675 --> 00:34:23.941 from within us to all those around us. 00:34:23.941 --> 00:34:25.185 (Sabina) That's wonderful. 00:34:25.185 --> 00:34:27.225 So, there are many things that we can do. 00:34:27.225 --> 00:34:28.700 And I'm just going to get 00:34:28.700 --> 00:34:30.531 Cory's comment also. 00:34:30.531 --> 00:34:32.528 Cory, I want to hear you, and then we are 00:34:32.528 --> 00:34:34.960 going to move to the testimony of a person 00:34:34.960 --> 00:34:36.605 that didn't have the same type 00:34:36.605 --> 00:34:41.453 of heart as Mary. Yes, Cory. 00:34:41.453 --> 00:34:43.200 (Cory) I think a lot of these things 00:34:43.200 --> 00:34:44.873 that bubble out of us can only come 00:34:44.873 --> 00:34:46.902 from a relationship with Christ, 00:34:46.902 --> 00:34:47.756 and that is done 00:34:47.756 --> 00:34:49.473 by spending time with Him. 00:34:49.473 --> 00:34:51.199 And you see couples that, when they 00:34:51.199 --> 00:34:52.960 start dating or get married, start 00:34:52.960 --> 00:34:54.311 looking alike because they 00:34:54.311 --> 00:34:55.439 start acting alike. 00:34:55.439 --> 00:34:57.626 That's how we reflect Christ 00:34:57.626 --> 00:34:58.533 to those around us, 00:34:58.533 --> 00:35:00.490 spend time with Him, know Him, 00:35:00.490 --> 00:35:02.131 so that we can reflect Him. 00:35:02.131 --> 00:35:03.701 (Sabina) That's wonderful, yeah. 00:35:03.701 --> 00:35:05.703 I really love this testimony of Mary. 00:35:05.703 --> 00:35:07.305 I think it's so inspiring, 00:35:07.305 --> 00:35:09.920 Derek and friends, because we all 00:35:09.920 --> 00:35:12.525 are also invited to pour out everything 00:35:12.525 --> 00:35:14.540 we have to Jesus. 00:35:14.540 --> 00:35:16.097 And I wonder if there is someone 00:35:16.097 --> 00:35:18.190 watching us, and they have been 00:35:18.190 --> 00:35:20.033 withholding some parts of their life 00:35:20.033 --> 00:35:21.795 from God, maybe afraid 00:35:21.795 --> 00:35:23.161 of what could happen. 00:35:23.161 --> 00:35:25.400 Maybe it's something very precious to you, 00:35:25.400 --> 00:35:28.226 right, the salary of your whole year, 00:35:28.226 --> 00:35:29.864 or even [something much more] deep 00:35:29.864 --> 00:35:31.656 in your heart, in your mind. 00:35:31.656 --> 00:35:33.898 But, you know, don't withhold those things 00:35:33.898 --> 00:35:36.324 from Jesus, because nothing you bestow, 00:35:36.324 --> 00:35:38.595 in true worship, upon Jesus 00:35:38.595 --> 00:35:41.342 will ever, ever be wasted. 00:35:41.342 --> 00:35:42.638 Just look at what He did 00:35:42.638 --> 00:35:44.632 and how He protected this woman, 00:35:44.632 --> 00:35:47.285 and how it multiplies, as Derek 00:35:47.285 --> 00:35:49.384 was sharing, even to the cross. 00:35:49.384 --> 00:35:52.299 There is nothing that you pour upon Jesus 00:35:52.299 --> 00:35:54.415 that you are not going to see Him 00:35:54.415 --> 00:35:56.728 taking care of and multiplying it further. 00:35:56.728 --> 00:35:58.190 (Derek, Team) Amen. 00:35:58.190 --> 00:35:59.560 (Sabina) So, let's look here 00:35:59.560 --> 00:36:02.970 at the witness of Pontius Pilate. 00:36:02.970 --> 00:36:04.616 So, now we are moving from Mary, 00:36:04.616 --> 00:36:05.647 a person that had 00:36:05.647 --> 00:36:07.931 this generous heart towards God, 00:36:07.931 --> 00:36:10.378 to a person that was more reluctant. 00:36:10.378 --> 00:36:13.528 So maybe, Cory, if you will read for us; 00:36:13.528 --> 00:36:16.270 we are still going to be reading 00:36:16.270 --> 00:36:18.788 from the book of John, chapter 18, 00:36:18.788 --> 00:36:24.100 verse 38, and then chapter 19, verse 4. 00:36:24.100 --> 00:36:26.334 And then we'll be thinking of what we can 00:36:26.334 --> 00:36:28.335 conclude from the testimony 00:36:28.335 --> 00:36:33.625 of Pilate regarding Jesus. 00:36:33.625 --> 00:36:36.290 (Cory) John 18:38 to start with, 00:36:36.290 --> 00:36:38.700 out of the New King James: 00:36:55.054 --> 00:36:58.610 And then 19, verse 4: 00:37:12.251 --> 00:37:13.463 (Sabina) Thank you. 00:37:13.463 --> 00:37:14.755 So, what are your thoughts? 00:37:14.755 --> 00:37:16.081 What can we conclude 00:37:16.081 --> 00:37:18.394 from the testimony of Pilate 00:37:18.394 --> 00:37:21.298 regarding Jesus? Yes, Puia. 00:37:21.298 --> 00:37:23.179 (Puia) Pilate stood 00:37:23.179 --> 00:37:26.726 before the truth in person. 00:37:26.726 --> 00:37:29.504 Jesus is the truth, and Jesus said, 00:37:29.504 --> 00:37:30.720 "I came to make known 00:37:30.720 --> 00:37:31.882 the truth to the world." 00:37:31.882 --> 00:37:34.361 And Pilate asked what we could consider 00:37:34.361 --> 00:37:36.228 one of the most important questions 00:37:36.228 --> 00:37:37.662 that we could ever ask God, 00:37:37.662 --> 00:37:38.829 "What is truth?" 00:37:38.829 --> 00:37:43.181 But then the text said he then went away. 00:37:43.181 --> 00:37:46.993 He didn't stay to receive 00:37:46.993 --> 00:37:49.386 the revelation of God. 00:37:49.386 --> 00:37:51.381 So, there is that lesson for us 00:37:51.381 --> 00:37:54.247 to stay a little longer and allow God 00:37:54.247 --> 00:37:55.780 to reveal Himself to us. 00:37:55.780 --> 00:37:57.245 (Sabina) That's right, Puia. 00:37:57.245 --> 00:37:58.992 Maybe if Pilate had stayed 00:37:58.992 --> 00:38:00.892 a little longer, right, paid 00:38:00.892 --> 00:38:02.193 a little more attention 00:38:02.193 --> 00:38:05.006 to what he had right in front of his eyes, 00:38:05.006 --> 00:38:06.740 the story could have been different, 00:38:06.740 --> 00:38:09.600 at least for him and his family. 00:38:09.600 --> 00:38:13.082 So, I also find it interesting that he 00:38:13.082 --> 00:38:15.914 found no fault in Jesus, 00:38:15.914 --> 00:38:18.607 even though he didn't resonate with Jesus. 00:38:18.607 --> 00:38:21.606 So, in that staying a little longer, 00:38:21.606 --> 00:38:24.271 maybe we are kind of already seeing 00:38:24.271 --> 00:38:26.519 something happening, and it may not 00:38:26.519 --> 00:38:28.112 always make sense to you, 00:38:28.112 --> 00:38:30.137 because it was not making sense to Pilate. 00:38:30.137 --> 00:38:31.640 He said, "What is truth?" 00:38:31.640 --> 00:38:33.283 Like, it seemed like truth for him 00:38:33.283 --> 00:38:35.062 was not something that obvious 00:38:35.062 --> 00:38:36.635 or for Jesus it was, 00:38:36.635 --> 00:38:39.460 and he should have taken a little longer 00:38:39.460 --> 00:38:41.579 to maybe understand that, even if he 00:38:41.579 --> 00:38:43.123 couldn't reconcile that, 00:38:43.123 --> 00:38:46.407 that it was exactly what was happening. Yes, Gladys. 00:38:46.407 --> 00:38:47.836 (Gladys) At this point, Pilate 00:38:47.836 --> 00:38:49.949 had already heard about Jesus. 00:38:49.949 --> 00:38:51.500 He had heard about His ministry. 00:38:51.500 --> 00:38:53.163 He had heard about the miracles. 00:38:53.163 --> 00:38:55.311 So, even though he didn't have 00:38:55.311 --> 00:38:57.405 the full revelation, even though he 00:38:57.405 --> 00:38:59.716 didn't take the time to spend, 00:38:59.716 --> 00:39:02.404 he could have at least been 00:39:02.404 --> 00:39:05.104 a little bit more conscious towards 00:39:05.104 --> 00:39:07.736 the Person that he was dealing with, 00:39:07.736 --> 00:39:09.388 but he chose not to. 00:39:09.388 --> 00:39:10.640 (Sabina) Right, and we are 00:39:10.640 --> 00:39:13.784 going to see further, maybe if Lezlie 00:39:13.784 --> 00:39:16.890 would take us to Matthew 27:19, 00:39:16.890 --> 00:39:18.320 that there was more revelation 00:39:18.320 --> 00:39:21.273 that was given to Pilate about Jesus. 00:39:21.273 --> 00:39:24.775 So, let's read there in Matthew 27:19, 00:39:24.775 --> 00:39:25.989 and we are going to learn 00:39:25.989 --> 00:39:27.218 about this revelation. 00:39:27.218 --> 00:39:28.189 (Lezlie) I'm reading 00:39:28.189 --> 00:39:31.703 from the New Living Translation, Matthew 27:19: 00:39:47.016 --> 00:39:48.102 (Sabina) Oh, wow. 00:39:48.102 --> 00:39:49.516 So, what special revelation 00:39:49.516 --> 00:39:52.786 is being given here to him? 00:39:52.786 --> 00:39:55.526 He had experienced what he saw 00:39:55.526 --> 00:39:58.042 as his own witness, and now...Yes, Derek. 00:39:58.042 --> 00:39:59.677 (Derek) And even if we don't know 00:39:59.677 --> 00:40:01.450 the content of the dream, 00:40:01.450 --> 00:40:05.115 we see the love of God, that God 00:40:05.115 --> 00:40:07.423 loves Pilate, that Jesus wants 00:40:07.423 --> 00:40:10.427 Pilate to be saved. 00:40:10.427 --> 00:40:11.546 But in my favorite book 00:40:11.546 --> 00:40:13.646 on the life of Jesus, The Desire of Ages, 00:40:13.646 --> 00:40:15.559 it speaks about that dream given 00:40:15.559 --> 00:40:18.145 to Pilate's wife, a revelation 00:40:18.145 --> 00:40:20.395 of what would happen, including the coming 00:40:20.395 --> 00:40:22.793 of Jesus in glory. 00:40:22.793 --> 00:40:26.157 And one translation said nightmare, 00:40:26.157 --> 00:40:27.414 mine just said a dream, 00:40:27.414 --> 00:40:30.258 I don't know; it was troubling to her 00:40:30.258 --> 00:40:33.397 because this innocent man 00:40:33.397 --> 00:40:36.116 was the King of Glory. 00:40:36.116 --> 00:40:39.268 But even if we didn't know the dream, 00:40:39.268 --> 00:40:41.566 I see the love of God, 00:40:41.566 --> 00:40:44.049 "What else can I do," you know, 00:40:44.049 --> 00:40:50.041 "to reach out in a loving rescue, " right, 00:40:50.041 --> 00:40:51.710 salvation to this person. 00:40:51.710 --> 00:40:52.774 (Sabina) That's right. 00:40:52.774 --> 00:40:55.293 So, He not only gave that opportunity 00:40:55.293 --> 00:40:57.260 for him to witness for himself, 00:40:57.260 --> 00:40:59.102 and he failed to stay a little longer, 00:40:59.102 --> 00:41:00.246 as Puia was saying, 00:41:00.246 --> 00:41:01.996 but He also then took the time 00:41:01.996 --> 00:41:03.502 to communicate with the person 00:41:03.502 --> 00:41:05.329 who was the most important person 00:41:05.329 --> 00:41:08.150 in his life, I suppose, to see 00:41:08.150 --> 00:41:11.257 if maybe he would listen to his wife. 00:41:11.257 --> 00:41:13.413 Isn't that powerful, to see the ways 00:41:13.413 --> 00:41:15.669 that God is trying to find our hearts. 00:41:15.669 --> 00:41:19.683 So, how do you explain, then, the actions 00:41:19.683 --> 00:41:22.450 of Pilate in light of his testimony 00:41:22.450 --> 00:41:23.688 and special revelation 00:41:23.688 --> 00:41:25.210 that was given to him? 00:41:25.210 --> 00:41:27.437 How can we explain that he 00:41:27.437 --> 00:41:31.401 still wouldn't hear that? Yes, Gladys. 00:41:31.401 --> 00:41:33.083 (Gladys) Well, we have been talking 00:41:33.083 --> 00:41:34.597 about how Satan just blinds us 00:41:34.597 --> 00:41:37.415 and makes us deaf. 00:41:37.415 --> 00:41:39.756 And obviously in his response 00:41:39.756 --> 00:41:41.618 to the revelation he has received 00:41:41.618 --> 00:41:43.073 and his response to the dream 00:41:43.073 --> 00:41:44.550 that his wife had, 00:41:44.550 --> 00:41:47.578 he still did not open his heart 00:41:47.578 --> 00:41:50.189 to accept Jesus for whom he was seeing 00:41:50.189 --> 00:41:52.384 that He could be. 00:41:52.384 --> 00:41:53.830 (Sabina) Yes, Zandile, I see 00:41:53.830 --> 00:41:57.637 you have your hand up. 00:41:57.637 --> 00:41:59.228 (Zandile) As you were questioning 00:41:59.228 --> 00:42:01.456 I thought of the fact that Pilate 00:42:01.456 --> 00:42:05.649 and his wife were Romans, 00:42:05.649 --> 00:42:09.778 but we find God revealing Himself 00:42:09.778 --> 00:42:13.389 to the Romans, the Gentiles at that time, 00:42:13.389 --> 00:42:14.911 people who did not have anything 00:42:14.911 --> 00:42:16.564 to do with God, people who did not 00:42:16.564 --> 00:42:18.257 know Him, but He comes to them. 00:42:18.257 --> 00:42:19.649 Even Jesus, He was 00:42:19.649 --> 00:42:22.299 about to be a sacrifice for everybody, 00:42:22.299 --> 00:42:23.686 but God is saying, 00:42:23.686 --> 00:42:25.123 "Hey, listen, have nothing..." 00:42:25.123 --> 00:42:26.650 He is revealing Himself to show 00:42:26.650 --> 00:42:29.264 that He cares for all humanity, 00:42:29.264 --> 00:42:32.029 for everyone, not only the Jews. 00:42:32.029 --> 00:42:33.432 But in light of the question 00:42:33.432 --> 00:42:35.368 that you just asked, I wanted to say 00:42:35.368 --> 00:42:38.336 that God had already said, 00:42:38.336 --> 00:42:40.120 "I have given today 00:42:40.120 --> 00:42:42.460 in front of you life or death. 00:42:42.460 --> 00:42:45.233 It's up to you to, you know, choose life 00:42:45.233 --> 00:42:46.966 or you choose death." 00:42:46.966 --> 00:42:47.668 (Derek) Wow. 00:42:47.668 --> 00:42:49.832 (Sabina) Yes. Puia, I see your hand up. 00:42:49.832 --> 00:42:52.337 Would you take us to John 19, 00:42:52.337 --> 00:42:53.779 verses 1 and 16. 00:42:53.779 --> 00:42:54.756 We are going to see 00:42:54.756 --> 00:42:55.913 a little bit more there, 00:42:55.913 --> 00:42:57.305 and then maybe you can add... 00:42:57.305 --> 00:42:59.193 (Puia) Sure, and I'll be reading 00:42:59.193 --> 00:43:01.945 from the New King James Version, 00:43:01.945 --> 00:43:03.366 John 19, verse 1: 00:43:07.549 --> 00:43:09.542 And verse 16: 00:43:18.165 --> 00:43:20.715 What I wanted to comment on, Sabina, 00:43:20.715 --> 00:43:22.863 was that Pilate was 00:43:22.863 --> 00:43:25.437 pressured by the crowd. 00:43:25.437 --> 00:43:28.507 It may be easy, to kind of, blame him, 00:43:28.507 --> 00:43:30.810 but I believe there is also danger 00:43:30.810 --> 00:43:33.225 for us today that we, too, can 00:43:33.225 --> 00:43:35.424 be pressured to go along 00:43:35.424 --> 00:43:37.250 with the majority. 00:43:37.250 --> 00:43:39.674 It's not fun to be different 00:43:39.674 --> 00:43:43.781 from the crowd, so one reason Pilate, 00:43:43.781 --> 00:43:46.383 while knowing that Jesus was innocent, 00:43:46.383 --> 00:43:48.730 why did He still deliver Jesus 00:43:48.730 --> 00:43:50.033 to be crucified? 00:43:50.033 --> 00:43:52.457 Well, because he gave in 00:43:52.457 --> 00:43:54.250 to the pressure of the crowd. 00:43:54.250 --> 00:43:55.846 (Sabina) That's right, he gave in 00:43:55.846 --> 00:43:57.261 to the pressure of the crowd. 00:43:57.261 --> 00:43:58.443 And he also had a role, 00:43:58.443 --> 00:44:00.264 and sometimes the pressure can even be 00:44:00.264 --> 00:44:02.788 because of a certain profession that you have. 00:44:02.788 --> 00:44:04.872 Because he had a role to play, 00:44:04.872 --> 00:44:07.370 and part of his role to play 00:44:07.370 --> 00:44:09.594 was to make sure that all parts 00:44:09.594 --> 00:44:12.699 and communities were satisfied and happy. 00:44:12.699 --> 00:44:15.332 So one day [he had to satisfy one group] 00:44:15.332 --> 00:44:16.858 and another day [another group], 00:44:16.858 --> 00:44:19.829 so he had to reconcile his call 00:44:19.829 --> 00:44:24.205 as a leader with the witness of Jesus 00:44:24.205 --> 00:44:26.200 that was right in front of him. 00:44:26.200 --> 00:44:29.300 And it seems like he failed. Yes, Travis. 00:44:29.300 --> 00:44:30.874 (Travis) I was thinking of a song 00:44:30.874 --> 00:44:32.357 that I sang as a kid, Stand up, 00:44:32.357 --> 00:44:34.461 Stand up, for Jesus. 00:44:34.461 --> 00:44:37.070 Jesus was going to the cross, 00:44:37.070 --> 00:44:41.355 whether Pilate flogged Him or not, 00:44:41.355 --> 00:44:43.752 because it was His time. 00:44:43.752 --> 00:44:46.691 But he could have taken a stand for Jesus, 00:44:46.691 --> 00:44:48.959 and he chose, as mentioned, 00:44:48.959 --> 00:44:49.875 not to take a stand 00:44:49.875 --> 00:44:51.598 because of popular opinion. 00:44:51.598 --> 00:44:53.844 And I think there is a lesson 00:44:53.844 --> 00:44:55.902 for us to learn, as when we're asked 00:44:55.902 --> 00:44:57.904 to take a stand, we 00:44:57.904 --> 00:44:59.515 might not change a situation, 00:44:59.515 --> 00:45:01.599 but we can stand. 00:45:01.599 --> 00:45:02.768 We can stand for Jesus. 00:45:02.768 --> 00:45:03.815 (Sabina) Yes. So I see 00:45:03.815 --> 00:45:06.166 many hands up, and I would love 00:45:06.166 --> 00:45:07.717 to continue talking about that, 00:45:07.717 --> 00:45:08.880 but we are going to move 00:45:08.880 --> 00:45:10.040 to our next witness. 00:45:10.040 --> 00:45:12.292 And, Cory, if you will help us there. 00:45:12.292 --> 00:45:13.598 We are going to be looking 00:45:13.598 --> 00:45:15.966 at the witness of Thomas, 00:45:15.966 --> 00:45:17.947 Thomas who struggled to believe 00:45:17.947 --> 00:45:20.319 that Jesus was risen from the dead. 00:45:20.319 --> 00:45:22.245 So we already know, we heard 00:45:22.245 --> 00:45:24.896 from the story of Mary and her testimony. 00:45:24.896 --> 00:45:26.469 We've seen here in the testimony, 00:45:26.469 --> 00:45:28.000 also, of Pilate, who was 00:45:28.000 --> 00:45:29.960 a completely different person than Mary, 00:45:29.960 --> 00:45:31.135 a different background, 00:45:31.135 --> 00:45:32.142 a different response. 00:45:32.142 --> 00:45:34.455 Now, let's look at Thomas, who was 00:45:34.455 --> 00:45:37.669 one of those close followers of Jesus. 00:45:37.669 --> 00:45:40.547 So, if you'll read for us from John, 00:45:40.547 --> 00:45:46.119 chapter 20, from verses 19 to 24, Cory. 00:45:46.119 --> 00:45:46.977 (Cory) I'm reading 00:45:46.977 --> 00:45:48.327 from the New King James: 00:46:55.184 --> 00:46:56.331 (Sabina) Okay, so, Cory, 00:46:56.331 --> 00:46:58.609 just stick with us a little longer here. 00:46:58.609 --> 00:47:00.134 I saw you had your hand up, 00:47:00.134 --> 00:47:02.020 and you just read this text. 00:47:02.020 --> 00:47:03.662 Why do you think that Thomas 00:47:03.662 --> 00:47:04.976 was struggling to believe 00:47:04.976 --> 00:47:06.684 that Jesus was risen from the dead? 00:47:06.684 --> 00:47:08.915 What are your thoughts? 00:47:08.915 --> 00:47:10.163 (Cory) I think some people 00:47:10.163 --> 00:47:11.870 just need to [feel and] see things 00:47:11.870 --> 00:47:13.385 with their own hands and eyes, 00:47:13.385 --> 00:47:14.798 and there were so many doubts 00:47:14.798 --> 00:47:16.356 because he really believed Jesus 00:47:16.356 --> 00:47:19.683 was going to be a king on Earth right now. 00:47:19.683 --> 00:47:23.200 And [with] his belief, he doubted 00:47:23.200 --> 00:47:24.660 everything that was going on, 00:47:24.660 --> 00:47:27.148 so he needed to see it himself. 00:47:27.148 --> 00:47:28.722 (Sabina) Okay, thank you so much. 00:47:28.722 --> 00:47:29.864 And we are going to look 00:47:29.864 --> 00:47:31.213 a little further here. 00:47:31.213 --> 00:47:32.994 Maybe, Joshua, if you'll read 00:47:32.994 --> 00:47:37.296 for us John 20:25,26, and we are 00:47:37.296 --> 00:47:38.275 going to be thinking 00:47:38.275 --> 00:47:39.848 [of what more we can learn] 00:47:39.848 --> 00:47:42.870 about Thomas from these two verses? 00:47:42.870 --> 00:47:44.454 (Joshua) Alright, I'll be reading 00:47:44.454 --> 00:47:49.445 from the New King James Version, John 20:25-26: 00:48:18.441 --> 00:48:19.868 (Sabina) So, what can we learn 00:48:19.868 --> 00:48:21.448 about Thomas? Yes, Gladys. 00:48:21.448 --> 00:48:23.880 (Gladys) I think that he is like what Cory 00:48:23.880 --> 00:48:25.470 was saying, that he is somebody 00:48:25.470 --> 00:48:28.261 that needs something tangible, 00:48:28.261 --> 00:48:30.141 that needs tangible evidence 00:48:30.141 --> 00:48:31.980 before they can believe. 00:48:31.980 --> 00:48:35.424 But I just love that Jesus, even though He 00:48:35.424 --> 00:48:38.874 knew that he didn't believe, 00:48:38.874 --> 00:48:41.393 He's so loving, the love of God 00:48:41.393 --> 00:48:43.447 is so big, that He reaches 00:48:43.447 --> 00:48:45.151 even beyond our unbelief 00:48:45.151 --> 00:48:48.130 and reveals Himself to us. 00:48:48.130 --> 00:48:49.926 (Derek) I always struggled 00:48:49.926 --> 00:48:53.390 with calling him "Thomas the Doubter." 00:48:53.390 --> 00:48:54.648 I think he's a skeptic. 00:48:54.648 --> 00:48:56.657 I think, like Cory said, he may need 00:48:56.657 --> 00:48:58.970 a little more tangible evidence. 00:48:58.970 --> 00:49:02.649 But I want us to note that he is there 00:49:02.649 --> 00:49:05.501 in the upper room, right, 00:49:05.501 --> 00:49:07.380 eight days later; he is there. 00:49:07.380 --> 00:49:12.709 So, his heart is open, and I'm so thankful 00:49:12.709 --> 00:49:13.900 for what happens next, 00:49:13.900 --> 00:49:15.690 because while Jesus says, 00:49:15.690 --> 00:49:17.947 "Blessed are those who believe 00:49:17.947 --> 00:49:19.666 even though they don't see," 00:49:19.666 --> 00:49:23.744 He doesn't say, "Thomas, you're a loser. 00:49:23.744 --> 00:49:26.995 Leave the room." 00:49:26.995 --> 00:49:29.251 I see the love of Jesus there. 00:49:29.251 --> 00:49:31.643 But I want to affirm Thomas, 00:49:31.643 --> 00:49:34.726 even though he was struggling, 00:49:34.726 --> 00:49:37.291 he showed up with the people of God. 00:49:37.291 --> 00:49:38.381 (Team) Amen. 00:49:38.381 --> 00:49:40.143 (Sabina) So, looking to that, 00:49:40.143 --> 00:49:42.521 maybe, Jason, if you'll read for us. 00:49:42.521 --> 00:49:44.113 We are going to look at the way 00:49:44.113 --> 00:49:47.930 that Jesus encourages Thomas 00:49:47.930 --> 00:49:50.220 and also how Thomas 00:49:50.220 --> 00:49:52.847 finally responds to Jesus, 00:49:52.847 --> 00:49:55.465 so verses 27 to 29, 00:49:55.465 --> 00:49:56.748 if you'll read that for us. 00:49:56.748 --> 00:49:59.177 (Jason) My pleasure, and the Bible says: 00:50:27.721 --> 00:50:28.722 (Sabina) Thank you. 00:50:28.722 --> 00:50:30.118 So, first of all, how did 00:50:30.118 --> 00:50:33.480 Jesus encourage Thomas? 00:50:33.480 --> 00:50:36.331 Do you have any thoughts about it? Yes, Travis. 00:50:36.331 --> 00:50:40.079 (Travis) I'm just really impressed, first, 00:50:40.079 --> 00:50:43.449 by Thomas' request, and then Jesus giving 00:50:43.449 --> 00:50:45.699 him exactly what he needs to believe. 00:50:45.699 --> 00:50:47.388 We've been going through this study 00:50:47.388 --> 00:50:49.193 of John, and many people were asking 00:50:49.193 --> 00:50:52.786 for signs; Jesus didn't give them a sign. 00:50:52.786 --> 00:50:54.575 And here now Thomas is saying, 00:50:54.575 --> 00:50:57.184 "Unless I see this....," I think it has 00:50:57.184 --> 00:50:59.041 to do with the condition of the heart. 00:50:59.041 --> 00:51:00.159 I think Derek is right. 00:51:00.159 --> 00:51:03.693 He wanted to believe, 00:51:03.693 --> 00:51:05.416 but he wanted evidence. 00:51:05.416 --> 00:51:07.628 And I've been in this situation 00:51:07.628 --> 00:51:09.495 with Thomas before, and God 00:51:09.495 --> 00:51:10.927 has revealed Himself to me 00:51:10.927 --> 00:51:12.322 in a powerful way. 00:51:12.322 --> 00:51:14.761 When your heart is willing and receptive, 00:51:14.761 --> 00:51:16.295 God knows what you need, and He 00:51:16.295 --> 00:51:18.420 will give it and reveal Himself to you. 00:51:18.420 --> 00:51:20.660 (Sabina) Puia. I see so many hands up. 00:51:20.660 --> 00:51:23.496 We're always stirred up with that story. Yes, Puia. 00:51:23.496 --> 00:51:25.889 (Puia) I am very encouraged by this story, 00:51:25.889 --> 00:51:27.828 because I myself struggle with doubts 00:51:27.828 --> 00:51:29.612 quite a lot of the time. 00:51:29.612 --> 00:51:32.477 And there could be two types of doubters. 00:51:32.477 --> 00:51:35.227 One group would be doubting towards faith, 00:51:35.227 --> 00:51:36.306 and one group would be 00:51:36.306 --> 00:51:38.600 doubting towards unbelief. 00:51:38.600 --> 00:51:40.417 What we see from Thomas is that, yes, 00:51:40.417 --> 00:51:41.860 he was struggling with doubts, 00:51:41.860 --> 00:51:44.127 but he was doubting towards faith. 00:51:44.127 --> 00:51:46.145 So, if we are struggling 00:51:46.145 --> 00:51:47.470 with doubts today, there is 00:51:47.470 --> 00:51:49.349 a lot of encouragement from this story, 00:51:49.349 --> 00:51:50.810 that Jesus doesn't condemn. 00:51:50.810 --> 00:51:53.168 Instead, the words of Jesus said, 00:51:53.168 --> 00:51:55.194 "Blessed are those who have not 00:51:55.194 --> 00:51:57.820 seen Me but believe." 00:51:57.820 --> 00:51:59.453 He's talking about us. 00:51:59.453 --> 00:52:01.409 (Sabina) Yes, so at the same time, Thomas 00:52:01.409 --> 00:52:03.757 was encouraged by Jesus, 00:52:03.757 --> 00:52:06.112 so Jesus listens to Thomas, He comes 00:52:06.112 --> 00:52:07.957 towards Thomas and his needs 00:52:07.957 --> 00:52:09.863 in that moment, but at the same time, 00:52:09.863 --> 00:52:12.263 He uses Thomas' story 00:52:12.263 --> 00:52:13.429 as an object lesson, 00:52:13.429 --> 00:52:16.345 let's put it this way, for all of us. 00:52:16.345 --> 00:52:18.545 So we that are here, and we do have 00:52:18.545 --> 00:52:20.405 the chance right now to be like, "Oh, 00:52:20.405 --> 00:52:22.719 Jesus, can I touch it?" 00:52:22.719 --> 00:52:26.013 But He is going to make sure that we know 00:52:26.013 --> 00:52:28.583 that we are more blessed than Thomas 00:52:28.583 --> 00:52:30.785 if we are able to believe without having 00:52:30.785 --> 00:52:33.300 that same experience that he had. 00:52:33.300 --> 00:52:36.462 So, Gladys, just to conclude this part 00:52:36.462 --> 00:52:38.435 about Thomas, what encouragement 00:52:38.435 --> 00:52:40.814 do you find in this story for your life? 00:52:40.814 --> 00:52:42.527 (Gladys) Well, I feel like the man 00:52:42.527 --> 00:52:45.349 that Jesus asked if he believed, 00:52:45.349 --> 00:52:46.564 and he said, "I believe, 00:52:46.564 --> 00:52:48.762 but help my unbelief." 00:52:48.762 --> 00:52:52.131 You know, sometimes we have this doubt, 00:52:52.131 --> 00:52:55.587 but God finds a way to just reveal Himself 00:52:55.587 --> 00:52:58.864 in a personal way to [move] 00:52:58.864 --> 00:53:01.274 towards belief, like Puia was saying. 00:53:01.274 --> 00:53:02.665 You have doubts, but, yes, 00:53:02.665 --> 00:53:04.715 [He will] move you closer to Him 00:53:04.715 --> 00:53:06.371 towards believing in Him. 00:53:06.371 --> 00:53:07.862 (Sabina) Isn't He loving? 00:53:07.862 --> 00:53:10.427 Isn't He so caring, that even if we are 00:53:10.427 --> 00:53:13.327 in that moment of doubt, of challenges, 00:53:13.327 --> 00:53:14.999 He is going to make sure to come 00:53:14.999 --> 00:53:16.824 towards you because He loves you. 00:53:16.824 --> 00:53:19.445 He is not trying to make it hard, right, Gladys, for us? 00:53:19.445 --> 00:53:20.318 (Gladys) He's not. 00:53:20.318 --> 00:53:22.613 (Sabina) He's trying as much as He can 00:53:22.613 --> 00:53:25.139 to attract us to Him. 00:53:25.139 --> 00:53:27.340 Thank You, Jesus, for that. 00:53:27.340 --> 00:53:29.679 And so, maybe, Lezlie, if you'll take us 00:53:29.679 --> 00:53:31.487 to the final part of our study, we are 00:53:31.487 --> 00:53:33.034 going to be looking at the way 00:53:33.034 --> 00:53:36.527 in which John concludes his own witness 00:53:36.527 --> 00:53:38.361 because John is also a witness 00:53:38.361 --> 00:53:40.942 of all that, and he gives that witness 00:53:40.942 --> 00:53:43.537 of many things that he saw 00:53:43.537 --> 00:53:45.447 and what he thinks of Jesus. 00:53:45.447 --> 00:53:47.292 So, if you'll take us to John, 00:53:47.292 --> 00:53:50.955 chapter 20, verses 30 and 31, please. 00:53:50.955 --> 00:53:52.385 (Lezlie) Okay, I'm reading 00:53:52.385 --> 00:53:54.288 from the New Living Translation: 00:54:13.198 --> 00:54:14.535 (Derek, Team) Amen. 00:54:14.535 --> 00:54:15.978 (Sabina) So, what testimony 00:54:15.978 --> 00:54:20.000 is John giving here? Yes, Travis. 00:54:20.000 --> 00:54:21.868 (Travis) I'm going to make the argument 00:54:21.868 --> 00:54:23.505 that that should be the last verse 00:54:23.505 --> 00:54:24.899 of the Bible, because I think 00:54:24.899 --> 00:54:26.595 that encapsulates all of Scripture. 00:54:26.595 --> 00:54:27.837 I think that's the reason 00:54:27.837 --> 00:54:30.219 all of Scripture was written. 00:54:30.219 --> 00:54:33.296 But John wanted to be sure 00:54:33.296 --> 00:54:36.330 that we knew that that was the reason. 00:54:36.330 --> 00:54:38.122 As a matter of fact, now when I study 00:54:38.122 --> 00:54:39.594 the book of John, and I 00:54:39.594 --> 00:54:41.638 have that understanding, wow, 00:54:41.638 --> 00:54:43.124 there's a whole new revelation. 00:54:43.124 --> 00:54:44.900 You read the Bible in a different way 00:54:44.900 --> 00:54:46.485 when you know that that's why 00:54:46.485 --> 00:54:47.595 it was written. 00:54:47.595 --> 00:54:49.605 (Sabina) Yeah, it seems like John's desire 00:54:49.605 --> 00:54:52.413 was that you and I would believe 00:54:52.413 --> 00:54:53.580 those things, you know? 00:54:53.580 --> 00:54:55.431 Ultimately, [it was] all he wanted, 00:54:55.431 --> 00:54:56.874 and through the Holy Spirit he 00:54:56.874 --> 00:54:58.751 was inspired because he knew 00:54:58.751 --> 00:55:01.767 that if we have the life of Jesus, 00:55:01.767 --> 00:55:02.846 we have eternal life. 00:55:02.846 --> 00:55:04.529 If we belong to Jesus, 00:55:04.529 --> 00:55:05.702 we have eternal life. 00:55:05.702 --> 00:55:07.541 And just to conclude here, do you have 00:55:07.541 --> 00:55:09.207 a story of your own, 00:55:09.207 --> 00:55:10.561 your testimony about Jesus? 00:55:10.561 --> 00:55:12.423 We are going to say that in short; 00:55:12.423 --> 00:55:14.040 we don't have much time. 00:55:14.040 --> 00:55:15.969 Is there something that you can say here 00:55:15.969 --> 00:55:25.480 that you are inspired to share. Yes, Tendi. 00:55:25.480 --> 00:55:27.615 (Tendi) How I came to the church, 00:55:27.615 --> 00:55:30.271 it was a trying time for me, 00:55:30.271 --> 00:55:33.492 but I held onto the fact that, leaving 00:55:33.492 --> 00:55:35.590 my job to honor the Sabbath 00:55:35.590 --> 00:55:38.450 and being unemployed for three years, 00:55:38.450 --> 00:55:42.125 Jesus will honor my fidelity one day. 00:55:42.125 --> 00:55:44.694 I stood firm to the belief that I had 00:55:44.694 --> 00:55:46.326 and the conviction I had. 00:55:46.326 --> 00:55:47.275 (Team) Amen. 00:55:47.275 --> 00:55:48.698 (Sabina) Thank you, Tendi. 00:55:48.698 --> 00:55:50.796 I think that each one of us here 00:55:50.796 --> 00:55:53.243 (if I start asking, we won't have time) 00:55:53.243 --> 00:55:54.930 would have a testimony to share 00:55:54.930 --> 00:55:56.436 of the many ways in which Jesus 00:55:56.436 --> 00:55:58.101 has been touching our lives. 00:55:58.101 --> 00:55:59.920 And that's my invitation also for you 00:55:59.920 --> 00:56:02.635 who are watching us. 00:56:02.635 --> 00:56:05.162 I'm sure that Jesus has been working 00:56:05.162 --> 00:56:07.488 in your life even before you were alive. 00:56:07.488 --> 00:56:08.857 He was thinking of you 00:56:08.857 --> 00:56:10.898 when He made you and knitted you together 00:56:10.898 --> 00:56:12.002 in your mother's womb. 00:56:12.002 --> 00:56:13.567 He had a plan for you. 00:56:13.567 --> 00:56:15.013 He has a desire for your life, 00:56:15.013 --> 00:56:16.830 and that desire is that you would come 00:56:16.830 --> 00:56:19.480 to believe in Him and have life. 00:56:19.480 --> 00:56:22.050 So just please take this invitation 00:56:22.050 --> 00:56:24.130 from Jesus, it's a gift, 00:56:24.130 --> 00:56:26.390 and not only receive the witness 00:56:26.390 --> 00:56:28.887 that we see in the Bible from Thomas 00:56:28.887 --> 00:56:31.435 or from Mary or the prophetic witness 00:56:31.435 --> 00:56:34.434 of Abraham or the witness of Tendi, 00:56:34.434 --> 00:56:37.937 Puia, Derek, but also see the witness 00:56:37.937 --> 00:56:39.619 of what the things are that Jesus 00:56:39.619 --> 00:56:40.866 will do in your life. 00:56:40.866 --> 00:56:43.233 I look forward to learning of the ways 00:56:43.233 --> 00:56:45.090 in which we are witnessing His work 00:56:45.090 --> 00:56:47.385 in you for eternity. Amen? 00:56:47.385 --> 00:56:51.100 (Derek, Team) Amen. 00:56:51.100 --> 00:56:53.754 (Derek) What a powerful study. 00:56:53.754 --> 00:56:55.178 (Team) Amen. 00:56:55.178 --> 00:56:56.658 (Derek) And, "Blessed are those 00:56:56.658 --> 00:56:59.880 who believe," is not just those back then, 00:56:59.880 --> 00:57:01.915 but could we testify, "We are 00:57:01.915 --> 00:57:04.222 blessed because we believe"? 00:57:04.222 --> 00:57:05.157 (Team) Amen. 00:57:05.157 --> 00:57:06.324 (Derek) We believe what? 00:57:06.324 --> 00:57:08.039 We believe that Jesus is the Christ, 00:57:08.039 --> 00:57:11.648 the Son of God, and that by believing 00:57:11.648 --> 00:57:13.549 we have life in His name. 00:57:13.549 --> 00:57:15.933 Thank you, Sabina, for sharing with us. 00:57:15.933 --> 00:57:18.484 And thank you for joining us. 00:57:18.484 --> 00:57:20.021 I just want to appeal to you 00:57:20.021 --> 00:57:22.201 as Sabina has; don't let this 00:57:22.201 --> 00:57:23.520 just be information. 00:57:23.520 --> 00:57:25.167 John said these stories 00:57:25.167 --> 00:57:26.870 are not just to entertain you 00:57:26.870 --> 00:57:28.384 but so you could be saved 00:57:28.384 --> 00:57:30.351 forever in God's Kingdom. 00:57:30.351 --> 00:57:31.334 Let's pray together. 00:57:31.334 --> 00:57:33.870 Father in Heaven, may the testimonies 00:57:33.870 --> 00:57:36.218 of those who believed, that we have 00:57:36.218 --> 00:57:40.413 shared today, including present testimony, 00:57:40.413 --> 00:57:42.760 remind us that You are not trying 00:57:42.760 --> 00:57:45.281 to hide from us, but You want 00:57:45.281 --> 00:57:48.461 to find us and save us and use us 00:57:48.461 --> 00:57:50.200 to bless others with a word 00:57:50.200 --> 00:57:52.245 of hope through You. 00:57:52.245 --> 00:57:55.479 Thank you. In Jesus' name. Amen. 00:57:55.479 --> 00:57:56.570 (Team) Amen. 00:57:56.570 --> 00:57:57.969 (Derek) Thanks for joining us 00:57:57.969 --> 00:57:59.944 for Hope Sabbath School - what a journey. 00:57:59.944 --> 00:58:01.677 Take what you've learned, my friend, 00:58:01.677 --> 00:58:03.842 go out and be a blessing to those around you. 00:58:03.842 --> 00:58:27.543 ♪ theme music ♪