0:00:00.490,0:00:02.087 We've always thought of mentoring 0:00:02.111,0:00:04.785 as the older generation[br]passing down wisdom to the young, 0:00:04.809,0:00:07.206 but there's a huge benefit[br]to flipping that around 0:00:07.230,0:00:09.334 and allowing the novice[br]to teach the master. 0:00:09.358,0:00:11.359 [The Way We Work] 0:00:12.153,0:00:14.164 [Made possible[br]with the support of Dropbox] 0:00:14.188,0:00:16.940 The workforce currently consists[br]of up to five generations 0:00:16.964,0:00:18.394 and it's becoming more diverse 0:00:18.418,0:00:21.236 across all spectrums[br]of underrepresented groups. 0:00:21.260,0:00:23.556 But that change[br]is not arriving nearly as fast 0:00:23.580,0:00:25.276 in C-suites and in boardrooms. 0:00:25.300,0:00:26.886 Which means there's a growing gap 0:00:26.910,0:00:28.449 between leaders and their people 0:00:28.473,0:00:30.896 in regards to their[br]perspectives and experiences. 0:00:30.920,0:00:33.556 Our organizations can fall[br]right through that gap 0:00:33.580,0:00:36.602 into the trap of stale[br]thinking, blind spots 0:00:36.626,0:00:38.726 and having policies that could alienate 0:00:38.750,0:00:40.296 these underrepresented groups, 0:00:40.320,0:00:41.986 not only in regards to age, 0:00:42.010,0:00:43.172 race or gender, 0:00:43.196,0:00:45.056 but all different kinds of viewpoints. 0:00:45.080,0:00:48.214 Reverse mentoring could be an antidote[br]to that tunnel vision. 0:00:48.238,0:00:50.146 But making reverse mentoring work, 0:00:50.170,0:00:51.887 isn't as simple as finding a mentor 0:00:51.911,0:00:53.085 and pressing go. 0:00:53.109,0:00:54.648 You have to be genuinely curious 0:00:54.672,0:00:56.394 about learning from that individual. 0:00:56.418,0:00:58.922 And you have to be intentional[br]about the relationship 0:00:58.946,0:01:00.335 in order to make it valuable. 0:01:00.359,0:01:02.286 I know this because I was asked 0:01:02.310,0:01:04.556 just a year into my career[br]at Virgin Atlantic 0:01:04.580,0:01:06.656 to be the first ever reverse mentor 0:01:06.680,0:01:08.786 to mentor CEO Craig Kreeger. 0:01:08.810,0:01:10.016 I'd met Craig a few times 0:01:10.040,0:01:11.656 and presented to him in meetings, 0:01:11.680,0:01:14.026 but this, it was a whole[br]different ball game. 0:01:14.050,0:01:16.180 Craig had revealed[br]that he had no black women 0:01:16.204,0:01:17.378 in his inner circle 0:01:17.402,0:01:19.489 and he was keen[br]to understand my perspective 0:01:19.513,0:01:22.335 on how to build a more inclusive[br]culture at Virgin Atlantic. 0:01:22.359,0:01:23.565 No pressure. 0:01:23.589,0:01:24.787 Here's what I learned 0:01:24.811,0:01:26.803 about how to make reverse mentoring work. 0:01:26.827,0:01:28.842 Lesson one, make your match thoughtfully. 0:01:28.866,0:01:30.255 Find someone who has a pulse 0:01:30.279,0:01:32.302 on the key spokespeople[br]in the organization 0:01:32.326,0:01:33.668 to help you make your match. 0:01:33.692,0:01:36.196 This doesn't have to be[br]someone in human resources, 0:01:36.220,0:01:38.736 just someone who knows you[br]and your teams well, 0:01:38.760,0:01:40.466 because chemistry really matters. 0:01:40.490,0:01:42.206 The VP of people experience chose me 0:01:42.230,0:01:44.426 because I was open to sharing my ideas 0:01:44.450,0:01:46.956 and also my enthusiasm[br]for leadership development. 0:01:46.980,0:01:48.186 Also make sure 0:01:48.210,0:01:51.157 that your mentor isn't a direct report[br]or part of your team, 0:01:51.181,0:01:54.045 because it will be really difficult[br]to elicit honest feedback 0:01:54.069,0:01:55.982 from someone who you also have to review 0:01:56.006,0:01:57.230 at the end of the year. 0:01:57.254,0:01:58.477 If you're in finance, 0:01:58.501,0:02:00.174 find someone creative in marketing, 0:02:00.198,0:02:03.118 or if you're in engineering,[br]find someone in customer service. 0:02:03.142,0:02:05.314 This will ensure[br]that you develop perspectives 0:02:05.338,0:02:07.042 from outside of your immediate team 0:02:07.066,0:02:09.265 and different perspectives[br]make better leaders. 0:02:09.289,0:02:10.465 Lesson two, 0:02:10.489,0:02:12.590 to make things simple,[br]set some ground rules. 0:02:12.614,0:02:15.337 The first meeting should be offsite[br]in a neutral location. 0:02:15.361,0:02:17.608 If you're the mentee,[br]you should set the agenda. 0:02:17.632,0:02:19.664 What is it that you really want to learn? 0:02:19.688,0:02:21.316 Maybe you'd like to understand 0:02:21.340,0:02:22.699 your mentor's career journey 0:02:22.723,0:02:25.121 or perhaps whether[br]they've had any major obstacles 0:02:25.145,0:02:26.312 they've had to overcome, 0:02:26.336,0:02:27.971 or maybe you'd like to understand 0:02:27.995,0:02:30.230 how specific company policies impact them 0:02:30.254,0:02:32.522 either directly or indirectly. 0:02:32.546,0:02:34.370 Agree that your conversations together 0:02:34.394,0:02:35.592 will be confidential 0:02:35.616,0:02:38.156 and whether there are any topics[br]which are off limits, 0:02:38.180,0:02:39.370 such as family life 0:02:39.394,0:02:41.119 or specific feedback on individuals. 0:02:41.143,0:02:43.173 Lesson three, start with an icebreaker. 0:02:43.197,0:02:44.397 I like to think of this 0:02:44.421,0:02:46.572 as a long elevator pitch[br]of your life stories. 0:02:46.596,0:02:47.772 Who are you? 0:02:47.796,0:02:49.263 Poignant moments in your life. 0:02:49.287,0:02:50.933 What are your hopes and dreams? 0:02:50.957,0:02:53.595 Pivot to seek differences[br]and not similarities 0:02:53.619,0:02:56.016 because that's the real power[br]of reverse mentoring. 0:02:56.040,0:02:57.283 Craig and I found 0:02:57.307,0:02:59.362 that we had formative[br]experiences in common. 0:02:59.386,0:03:00.711 Both of us immigrants, 0:03:00.735,0:03:02.916 him a second generation[br]growing up in the US 0:03:02.940,0:03:04.881 and myself first generation 0:03:04.905,0:03:06.886 arriving in the UK from Jamaica 0:03:06.910,0:03:08.176 at the age of three. 0:03:08.200,0:03:09.444 But from there, 0:03:09.468,0:03:11.001 our stories are quite different. 0:03:11.025,0:03:13.093 Lesson four, beware of role reversion. 0:03:13.117,0:03:15.126 There were a few times in our conversation 0:03:15.150,0:03:17.443 where Craig slipped[br]into giving me career advice. 0:03:17.467,0:03:19.865 And I had to say,[br]"Craig this is really interesting 0:03:19.889,0:03:21.801 and I'd love to come back to this later, 0:03:21.825,0:03:23.429 but in our limited time together, 0:03:23.453,0:03:26.133 is there anything else you'd[br]like to understand from me?" 0:03:26.157,0:03:27.333 Now this was quite hard, 0:03:27.357,0:03:29.334 but you have to remember that as a mentor 0:03:29.358,0:03:31.038 for this very short period of time, 0:03:31.062,0:03:33.937 your insights are actually more valuable[br]to the organization. 0:03:33.961,0:03:36.459 Lesson five, make time for reflection. 0:03:36.483,0:03:39.117 Agree the key takeaways[br]from each of the sessions, 0:03:39.141,0:03:41.846 either at the end[br]or through follow-up email 0:03:41.870,0:03:43.125 and schedule your sessions 0:03:43.149,0:03:45.096 to allow time between for reflection. 0:03:45.120,0:03:47.916 We found that three to four weeks[br]provided a great rhythm. 0:03:47.940,0:03:49.235 And finally, 0:03:49.259,0:03:50.946 give credit where credit's due. 0:03:50.970,0:03:53.106 In the traditional mentoring relationship 0:03:53.130,0:03:55.236 the mentor isn't expected[br]to be given credit. 0:03:55.260,0:03:57.426 However, in reverse mentoring 0:03:57.450,0:03:59.886 where the mentee actually[br]holds a lot of the power 0:03:59.910,0:04:02.002 accurate credit really counts. 0:04:02.319,0:04:03.766 Forward-thinking organizations 0:04:03.790,0:04:05.796 use reverse mentoring as one of the tools 0:04:05.820,0:04:08.105 to help them build[br]a more inclusive environment. 0:04:08.129,0:04:09.327 And studies have shown 0:04:09.351,0:04:11.956 that when organizations[br]embrace reverse mentoring 0:04:11.980,0:04:14.246 members of those underrepresented groups 0:04:14.270,0:04:16.986 feel more confident[br]in sharing their perspectives. 0:04:17.010,0:04:19.446 And when accompanied[br]by a comprehensive diversity 0:04:19.470,0:04:20.871 and inclusion strategy, 0:04:20.895,0:04:23.566 it leads to higher retention[br]amongst these groups. 0:04:23.590,0:04:25.189 Personally, I found 0:04:25.213,0:04:27.529 that my reverse mentoring[br]relationship with Craig 0:04:27.553,0:04:30.516 enabled me to have a sense[br]of ownership and leadership 0:04:30.540,0:04:32.846 in building an inclusive[br]culture at Virgin. 0:04:32.870,0:04:34.191 And for Craig, it showed 0:04:34.215,0:04:36.702 that even when you're[br]at the pinnacle of your career, 0:04:36.726,0:04:38.382 there's still more you can learn.