0:00:11.234,0:00:12.964 I teach negotiation.[br] 0:00:13.714,0:00:15.963 I do research in negotiation.[br] 0:00:16.453,0:00:18.593 I write books in negotiation. 0:00:19.263,0:00:21.254 And I work with students and executives 0:00:21.254,0:00:24.923 to help them get more of what they want[br]from their negotiations. 0:00:25.203,0:00:28.304 And one of the biggest challenges[br]that we face in negotiations 0:00:28.304,0:00:30.584 is that we view negotiations as a battle. 0:00:31.114,0:00:32.685 And that battle is characterized 0:00:32.685,0:00:36.184 by "I'm going to try to get stuff from you[br]that you don't want to give me; 0:00:36.184,0:00:38.873 and I'm going to try to keep you[br]from getting my stuff." 0:00:39.343,0:00:42.346 And if we view negotiations as a battle, 0:00:43.215,0:00:44.985 we already have a problem. 0:00:45.265,0:00:47.455 I'm going to suggest[br]that what's more important 0:00:47.455,0:00:48.945 is that we look at negotiations 0:00:48.945,0:00:51.805 as an opportunity[br]for collaborative problem-solving, 0:00:52.155,0:00:55.225 looking for a solution[br]that makes me better off, 0:00:55.705,0:01:00.559 better off than my alternatives,[br]better off than my status quo. 0:01:01.036,0:01:04.977 But because there is no command[br]and control in negotiation, 0:01:05.167,0:01:07.475 I cannot force you to say "Yes." 0:01:08.184,0:01:09.995 All I can do is present proposals 0:01:09.995,0:01:13.536 where you believe[br]it is in your interest to say "Yes." 0:01:14.556,0:01:18.706 And so, once I take[br]that perspective on negotiation 0:01:18.706,0:01:22.266 which highlights the importance[br]of the other as well as me, 0:01:23.396,0:01:26.247 so many more things[br]open up to negotiation: 0:01:26.247,0:01:27.497 whether it's a new job - 0:01:27.497,0:01:30.378 I'm trying to negotiate the terms[br]of my employment contract - 0:01:30.378,0:01:32.977 whether I'm trying to do[br]an acquisition for my company; 0:01:32.977,0:01:34.355 whether I'm in a meeting; 0:01:34.525,0:01:36.677 whether I'm deciding with my spouse 0:01:36.677,0:01:39.427 who's going to take the dog out[br]on a cold and rainy night; 0:01:39.427,0:01:42.316 or whether I'm thinking[br]about what the rules are 0:01:42.316,0:01:45.757 that my offspring will have to follow[br]and I will have to agree to 0:01:45.757,0:01:47.707 when they use my car. 0:01:49.757,0:01:52.287 And this is very good advice, 0:01:52.687,0:01:55.347 but I am here today with a confession 0:01:55.867,0:01:59.809 that I don't always follow[br]my very good advice. 0:02:00.459,0:02:06.287 And I want to introduce you[br]to my longtime negotiating counterpart. 0:02:07.857,0:02:09.468 This is Sal. 0:02:09.958,0:02:13.398 Sal is a 15-year-old quarter horse. 0:02:13.778,0:02:14.898 She is a mare. 0:02:15.518,0:02:22.358 And Sal came to me[br]as a gift from my husband. 0:02:23.358,0:02:27.768 My husband was the prior owner of Sal,[br]and he discovered, very quickly, 0:02:27.768,0:02:30.957 that Sal was more horse[br]than he could handle. 0:02:31.167,0:02:37.249 So, as a solution to his problem,[br]he thought he would just give her to me. 0:02:38.209,0:02:42.388 And he did that because he thought -[br]and he told this to me - 0:02:42.388,0:02:44.927 "You two are so alike." 0:02:45.097,0:02:46.217 (Laughter) 0:02:49.807,0:02:53.329 And to demonstrate that,[br]we have a picture. 0:02:53.859,0:02:58.430 So this is Sal and me,[br]but early on in our relationship. 0:02:58.770,0:03:02.249 And we are about to attempt[br]a relatively complex maneuver 0:03:02.249,0:03:04.069 called the flying lead change. 0:03:04.569,0:03:10.339 Look at my jaw: it's tight,[br]my lips: pressed. 0:03:10.339,0:03:12.829 My eyes, if you can see them[br]through the sunglasses, 0:03:12.829,0:03:17.400 there's a laser-like focus[br]on where I need to be with my horse, 0:03:17.400,0:03:19.950 and my reins have a death grip. 0:03:21.000,0:03:25.810 But this is a move that requires[br]both of us, both Sal and me. 0:03:26.170,0:03:32.409 And if you look at Sal, you see[br]she has a similar look on her face. 0:03:32.799,0:03:34.630 Her jaw is tight. 0:03:35.150,0:03:36.692 Look at her ears. 0:03:37.072,0:03:39.782 Clearly, I have a goal in mind[br]but so does she, 0:03:39.782,0:03:42.721 and it might not be the same thing. 0:03:42.721,0:03:43.631 (Laughter) 0:03:45.451,0:03:49.370 But my vision was good:[br]what I wanted us to be was good. 0:03:49.630,0:03:53.670 Let me show you what I had in my head[br]about how we might look. 0:03:53.800,0:03:55.260 (Music) 0:03:55.440,0:03:58.021 This is Buck Brannamon[br]and his horse Rebel. 0:03:58.801,0:04:00.191 Look at these. 0:04:00.191,0:04:02.190 Look at how they move together. 0:04:02.190,0:04:05.881 The smoothness with which they move[br]across the pasture. 0:04:06.071,0:04:10.441 It's stunning - the fluidity, the dance. 0:04:11.071,0:04:17.363 It's as if this man's brain[br]is attached directly to this horse's feet. 0:04:18.423,0:04:20.692 This is what I wanted. [br] 0:04:22.352,0:04:23.942 That was a good goal. 0:04:23.942,0:04:27.232 So, I decided, "Yes." 0:04:27.252,0:04:33.182 And I started working hard[br]on getting Sal to look like Rebel. 0:04:33.652,0:04:35.952 And the harder and harder I pushed her, 0:04:36.172,0:04:39.892 the more she got resistant,[br]the more she got tight, 0:04:40.052,0:04:44.302 the more she got anxious,[br]the more we didn't go forward. 0:04:45.482,0:04:49.112 And it came to a head [br]about three years ago. 0:04:50.602,0:04:52.922 Two of my friends[br]and I were in the pasture. 0:04:53.122,0:04:56.022 And they took off to go do[br]something with their horses, 0:04:56.032,0:05:00.163 but I decided that Sal and I should stay 0:05:00.703,0:05:04.022 and work on a particular dance step[br]that we were trying to achieve. 0:05:05.222,0:05:09.574 And when they left, she got anxious,[br]which is not surprising, 0:05:09.574,0:05:14.723 because horses are prey animals,[br]their herds are their source of support. 0:05:15.133,0:05:19.584 And when she was left alone,[br]she was feeling very scared. 0:05:20.834,0:05:23.585 And I made, of course, [br]my first mistake in all of this. 0:05:23.725,0:05:27.624 I focused on winning,[br]on getting her to do what I wanted 0:05:28.664,0:05:30.614 rather than problem solving. 0:05:30.804,0:05:34.263 And so if she saw[br]herself alone - no support - 0:05:34.263,0:05:36.984 she certainly didn't see[br]me as her support. 0:05:37.604,0:05:42.543 What she saw was the thing[br]that could protect her, her herd, 0:05:42.543,0:05:45.054 was leaving, and now she was alone. 0:05:45.374,0:05:48.655 She was isolated, and she was at risk. 0:05:49.695,0:05:53.745 And so as we continued,[br]I tried to keep her with me, 0:05:53.745,0:05:55.325 but she wanted to go with them. 0:05:55.335,0:05:56.835 And what happened was 0:05:56.835,0:05:58.835 because she couldn't go forward, 0:05:58.835,0:06:02.275 the only thing she could do is go up. 0:06:03.755,0:06:05.105 And she reared. 0:06:05.795,0:06:10.795 And I struggled mightily[br]to get all four feet back on the ground, 0:06:11.195,0:06:13.255 and I did for a moment,[br]but soon after that, 0:06:13.255,0:06:15.157 she reared again, and then a third time, 0:06:15.157,0:06:20.013 and at that point, [br]scared for my life, I bailed on Sal. 0:06:20.666,0:06:21.936 I abandoned her. 0:06:22.856,0:06:26.865 Now, at this point,[br]I had created a power struggle. 0:06:28.305,0:06:34.386 And, at that moment, we were both[br]in a struggle for our survival. 0:06:35.346,0:06:39.906 Right now, you are probably thinking,[br]"You know, you are such a drama queen." 0:06:39.986,0:06:40.796 (Laughter) 0:06:41.076,0:06:42.627 "What's a little rear?" 0:06:42.947,0:06:48.796 I mean, after all, if you are my age,[br]you remember Roy Rogers and Trigger. 0:06:49.136,0:06:50.697 Right? And Trigger would rear. 0:06:50.707,0:06:53.608 I remember my younger self[br]seeing that, thinking, 0:06:54.308,0:06:59.147 "I want a horse like that.[br]I want that power, that beauty." 0:06:59.697,0:07:01.837 Or if you are much younger than me 0:07:02.067,0:07:06.708 and maybe one of the few people who saw[br]that latest movie "The Lone Ranger," 0:07:06.878,0:07:13.197 you might have seen Silver rearing,[br]and again, power and beauty. 0:07:13.687,0:07:16.778 But these are Hollywood horses,[br]and those are tricks. 0:07:17.698,0:07:20.138 What rearing is like in the real world? 0:07:20.138,0:07:21.608 It is not beautiful. 0:07:21.958,0:07:25.628 It is scary. It is dangerous. 0:07:26.338,0:07:29.859 When a horse rears,[br]they can fall over backwards. 0:07:30.569,0:07:34.428 And when they fall over backwards,[br]the rider is crushed or killed. 0:07:34.908,0:07:36.689 And when they fall over backwards, 0:07:37.399,0:07:39.448 they hit their head on the way down. 0:07:39.448,0:07:41.718 And they are dead. 0:07:42.138,0:07:45.788 So, while rearing has this Hollywood view, 0:07:46.138,0:07:50.148 in the real world, it is so dangerous. 0:07:51.308,0:07:56.069 And while I know my goal,[br]my vision was good and important, 0:07:56.209,0:08:00.818 what I had forgotten[br]was to be flexible in how I got there. 0:08:01.068,0:08:02.619 And my vision was good. 0:08:02.739,0:08:05.980 This is a beautiful picture;[br]Sal and I could be ... 0:08:06.270,0:08:08.200 we could be wonderful together. 0:08:08.410,0:08:10.239 But while I was hoping for this, 0:08:10.259,0:08:13.239 this is more like Sal thought. 0:08:13.239,0:08:16.570 What Sal saw was:[br]we were at a complete impasse. 0:08:17.290,0:08:20.380 This wasn't a win-win.[br]This wasn't even a win-lose. 0:08:20.679,0:08:23.059 For us, we were at lose-lose. 0:08:23.399,0:08:28.540 And maybe I was at the time[br]where I had to, like my husband, Al, 0:08:29.190,0:08:31.110 say, "This horse was too much for me." 0:08:31.150,0:08:34.810 And maybe give her to a rider[br]who could do more with her, 0:08:34.890,0:08:36.340 who could help her out. 0:08:37.350,0:08:40.870 But I cared about this horse,[br]and I cared about us, 0:08:41.160,0:08:43.450 and I cared about our relationship. 0:08:44.050,0:08:46.570 So I had to change. 0:08:47.260,0:08:52.629 After all, I'm the one with the big brain;[br]I'm the one with the opposable thumbs. 0:08:52.839,0:08:54.631 And I have all these tools. 0:08:55.621,0:08:58.181 I'm the one who needed to change.[br] 0:08:59.441,0:09:02.061 So I talked to my teachers. 0:09:03.011,0:09:06.771 And I went back and they said to me, 0:09:07.091,0:09:10.630 "You have forgotten[br]the most important lesson: 0:09:12.200,0:09:16.420 that this relationship between[br]you and Sal is a partnership. 0:09:16.780,0:09:19.101 It's not a dictatorship.[br] 0:09:20.141,0:09:21.941 So, you need to go back 0:09:21.941,0:09:26.380 because Sal doesn't have the language[br]of words to make offers and counteroffers. 0:09:26.490,0:09:28.842 She can't say 'No' to you." 0:09:29.702,0:09:33.422 But what Sal was doing[br]with every fiber of her being 0:09:33.422,0:09:37.103 was using her language[br]of touch and feel to say, 0:09:37.103,0:09:41.802 "No." This wasn't working.[br]This wasn't a partnership. 0:09:42.072,0:09:43.442 And she was afraid. 0:09:43.482,0:09:45.762 She was not being stubborn[br]when she reared; 0:09:45.762,0:09:47.492 she was fearing for her life. 0:09:48.952,0:09:50.733 And so we did go back. 0:09:51.043,0:09:54.053 And I could tell you[br]I had to start all over again 0:09:54.053,0:09:59.123 because I had to be the leader[br]where she found comfort and support. 0:09:59.623,0:10:03.782 Because if I were fearful,[br]she could feel that fear 0:10:03.782,0:10:07.662 through the layers of leather[br]of a western saddle. 0:10:07.792,0:10:13.032 And if I, the rider,[br]the person in charge, was afraid, 0:10:13.302,0:10:16.133 what hope did she as a prey animal have? 0:10:17.523,0:10:21.834 I had to remember a lesson that I learned[br]when I - for being an academic, 0:10:21.834,0:10:24.283 is that you can't just bull[br]your way through things. 0:10:24.283,0:10:26.174 You have to learn how to problem-solve. 0:10:26.174,0:10:30.244 But, for some reason,[br]I hadn't brought that lesson to Sal. 0:10:30.874,0:10:32.434 And so I had to go back.[br] 0:10:33.314,0:10:38.764 I had to become that calm, confident[br]leader that allowed Sal to make mistakes 0:10:38.994,0:10:41.063 and to learn from those mistakes. 0:10:41.774,0:10:45.074 Because horses have[br]really two motivations: 0:10:45.074,0:10:48.614 they do what they think[br]they are supposed to do, 0:10:48.814,0:10:51.654 or they do what they need[br]to do to survive. 0:10:52.344,0:10:54.614 And I had to move us[br]out of a survival mode 0:10:54.614,0:10:56.664 because nobody can learn then, 0:10:56.744,0:11:00.234 and move us into a learning mode. 0:11:01.874,0:11:07.405 Now, it's been almost three years[br]to the day that that happened. 0:11:08.455,0:11:10.544 And Sal and I are very different. 0:11:11.444,0:11:16.045 We did go back, and we moved forward[br]with such speed this time 0:11:16.835,0:11:21.264 that I'd never have predicted back then[br]that we would ever make it to here. 0:11:22.494,0:11:24.556 Now, are we perfect? No. 0:11:24.556,0:11:27.486 Sal and I have good days,[br]and we have bad days. 0:11:28.726,0:11:31.076 And I make mistakes all the time.[br] 0:11:31.996,0:11:35.171 But the difference[br]is that now Sal sees me 0:11:35.584,0:11:38.606 as a source of support[br]and comfort for her. 0:11:38.945,0:11:43.026 She sees me as someone[br]who will where good things happen, 0:11:43.036,0:11:45.436 and I can keep the bad things away. 0:11:46.376,0:11:47.566 And to demonstrate, 0:11:47.566,0:11:50.546 let me show you a picture of Sal and me 0:11:50.546,0:11:54.085 that was taken by Al last March. 0:11:54.085,0:11:56.185 This was like last month. 0:11:56.475,0:11:59.466 Now I want you to notice a couple[br]of things about this picture. 0:11:59.706,0:12:02.266 Notice that there is nothing[br]on Sal's face; 0:12:02.506,0:12:05.337 there is no rope, no reins, no bridle. 0:12:05.547,0:12:10.107 Sal is behaving exactly[br]as she chooses to behave. 0:12:10.487,0:12:12.457 And notice that she is choosing. 0:12:12.477,0:12:15.247 Her horse buddies are behind her[br]in the background. 0:12:15.247,0:12:19.677 She is choosing to walk away[br]from them and with me. 0:12:21.087,0:12:22.287 And look at her. 0:12:22.307,0:12:27.287 She is soft; she is willing; she is calm. 0:12:28.319,0:12:31.708 And look at me. I'm really different too. 0:12:32.468,0:12:36.768 I am soft, and I am calm,[br]and I am confident. 0:12:38.598,0:12:44.237 So, perhaps, as you think[br]about your next big negotiation, 0:12:44.827,0:12:48.618 you might be tempted to see[br]if you can borrow Sal 0:12:48.968,0:12:51.828 for a little tune-up in how to negotiate. 0:12:52.238,0:12:57.338 But what might be more,[br]safer for all of us 0:12:57.338,0:13:01.939 is that if you just remember[br]the lessons of Sal and me. 0:13:02.959,0:13:08.079 Focus on solving the problem,[br]not on winning the battle, 0:13:08.099,0:13:13.464 because if you find yourself in a battle,[br]in a power struggle in a negotiation, 0:13:13.788,0:13:16.539 you have already lost. 0:13:19.019,0:13:23.780 And the key to being able to solve[br]problems in a negotiation 0:13:23.800,0:13:28.561 is to understand your counterpart,[br]to know what motivates them, 0:13:28.768,0:13:32.509 what will influence them to move[br]down that path of agreement 0:13:32.529,0:13:34.959 with you, of their own volition. 0:13:34.969,0:13:38.570 Remember there is no command[br]and control in negotiation; 0:13:38.590,0:13:40.460 I can't force you to say "Yes." 0:13:42.740,0:13:45.490 And remember that that works[br]for your counterparts, 0:13:45.490,0:13:48.440 whether they are human or horse. 0:13:49.480,0:13:51.094 And goals are important; 0:13:51.104,0:13:54.920 you absolutely need to know[br]what a good deal is for you. 0:13:55.840,0:14:00.580 But you also need to have flexibility[br]in how to achieve that goal. 0:14:00.730,0:14:06.081 And for me, this is the lesson[br]that I must learn and relearn 0:14:06.101,0:14:12.381 because too often, I choose a path [br]to my goal because I have chosen it, 0:14:12.621,0:14:14.951 not because it is the right one. 0:14:16.451,0:14:21.591 And in closing, I want to acknowledge[br]the considerable debt I owe 0:14:21.981,0:14:28.822 for becoming a better negotiator[br]and a better human to my partner Sal. 0:14:29.732,0:14:30.791 Thank you. 0:14:30.791,0:14:32.311 (Applause)