WEBVTT 00:00:00.540 --> 00:00:03.405 [COSTCO SUBS PRESENTS] 00:00:03.446 --> 00:00:06.809 [Previously unaired footage] 00:00:25.713 --> 00:00:32.219 [IZUMI・SEXY & BABIENOBITCH ] 00:00:33.237 --> 00:00:34.697 Welcome. 00:00:34.721 --> 00:00:36.573 - Good evening. - Welcome. 00:00:39.180 --> 00:00:41.910 - First time? - Yes, first time, nice to meet you. 00:00:43.216 --> 00:00:44.756 What can I get you to drink? 00:00:44.989 --> 00:00:46.973 - What is there? - Everything. 00:00:47.111 --> 00:00:49.634 - Beer. - Beer? 00:00:49.698 --> 00:00:52.137 - What's your name? - Shunsuke. 00:00:52.162 --> 00:00:53.663 How old are you? 00:00:53.864 --> 00:00:56.301 - I've turned 21. - Right. 00:00:57.757 --> 00:00:59.360 - What brings you to Nichome? 00:01:00.202 --> 00:01:02.512 - Are you curious? - I am. 00:01:02.595 --> 00:01:06.573 - I was thinking you might have a deep interest in this area's culture? - A deep interest? Well.. 00:01:06.894 --> 00:01:14.894 Two months ago, I decided I wanted to make my sexuality clear. 00:01:15.372 --> 00:01:21.983 Until now I have only dated girls but I was thinking I might be able to go both ways. 00:01:23.690 --> 00:01:27.880 I joined Terrace House in order to find out. 00:01:27.905 --> 00:01:29.752 - Yes, yes, yes. - And... 00:01:30.302 --> 00:01:34.151 With a 25 year old guy called Sota... 00:01:34.347 --> 00:01:37.382 We went for a drive and hung out together and the like. 00:01:37.422 --> 00:01:45.422 Other than just experiencing normal life together, when we went out together... More than as a person, liking someone... 00:01:47.785 --> 00:01:49.032 How do I put this? 00:01:49.056 --> 00:01:51.365 Do I like him in the way that a girl would? 00:01:51.390 --> 00:01:56.451 Basically, you can see him as a sexual partner, right? Like you can go for him or you can have sex with him. 00:01:56.475 --> 00:01:58.840 You can go for various people, huh? 00:01:58.865 --> 00:02:01.199 Oh. Oh. 00:02:01.371 --> 00:02:03.807 The reason why I joined Terrace House is... 00:02:03.974 --> 00:02:09.211 I was struggling over whether I also like guys. 00:02:09.237 --> 00:02:12.306 I was feeling uncertain over that. 00:02:12.857 --> 00:02:16.912 Now that I feel relieved since I've figured out my sexuality. 00:02:17.044 --> 00:02:23.482 Is the Shunsuke of today thinking "I like guys"? 00:02:23.507 --> 00:02:25.486 - You made your mind, right? - Yes. 00:02:25.917 --> 00:02:30.417 But I haven't dated a guy so... 00:02:30.741 --> 00:02:36.272 Only people who feel the same as me can understand me. 00:02:36.297 --> 00:02:39.952 There are the words "gay" or "lesbian", right? 00:02:39.987 --> 00:02:44.249 Given that, I feel I was able to quickly discover and understand myself. 00:02:44.274 --> 00:02:48.314 Discovering I go both ways was probably the hardest thing for me to realise. 00:02:48.362 --> 00:02:53.701 - So have you had any sexual love with guys? - No, I haven't even dated. 00:02:53.726 --> 00:02:55.299 Oh. 00:02:55.773 --> 00:02:58.016 - I haven't even held hands. - Oh. 00:02:59.861 --> 00:03:05.377 So before there hasn't been that, but you now have the desire. 00:03:06.237 --> 00:03:07.628 Ah, I see. 00:03:07.652 --> 00:03:09.605 - You should. - Yeah! 00:03:10.642 --> 00:03:14.502 It's the same as driving, the more experience the better. 00:03:14.603 --> 00:03:15.906 He's right. 00:03:16.001 --> 00:03:19.392 If you find someone you like.... 00:03:20.143 --> 00:03:26.315 If the guy is straight, what do you do? 00:03:26.570 --> 00:03:33.814 Well if it was me, I've been gay for a long time. I wouldn't fall for a straight guy. 00:03:35.683 --> 00:03:43.432 If he was cool, nice personality, good relationship etc. And I fell for him, I'd tell myself to stop, it's no good. 00:03:43.457 --> 00:03:45.286 I'd cut off my feelings for him. 00:03:45.710 --> 00:03:47.791 - You'd give up? - I'd give up. 00:03:47.881 --> 00:03:51.111 If he's straight, there's nothing to be done. 00:03:51.158 --> 00:03:54.685 Actually you can get just one chance. 00:03:54.710 --> 00:03:58.044 But the relationship doesn't last. 00:03:58.081 --> 00:04:02.001 If that's the case, it would be good to get along with the guy without having sex. 00:04:03.164 --> 00:04:06.918 Perhaps its the case that, if you grow to like guys, 00:04:07.072 --> 00:04:11.611 If you grow to really love him, maybe you can jump over that hurdle. 00:04:11.734 --> 00:04:15.551 - We both have a different way of starting relationships - Yeah, different, right. 00:04:15.683 --> 00:04:19.786 Well anyway, I said I like guys before but, 00:04:19.839 --> 00:04:24.575 It's more like...I wanna have sex with guys! I wanna blowjob! 00:04:25.121 --> 00:04:27.652 Everyday this guy is thinking about penis, right? 00:04:27.871 --> 00:04:34.197 But really, when it comes to sexuality: gay, lesbian, bi, there are various but... 00:04:34.556 --> 00:04:37.810 The truth is, there are all kinds of gradations. 00:04:37.949 --> 00:04:41.084 It's not that we can just decide our sexuality by ourselves. 00:04:42.027 --> 00:04:45.884 Like, "I like sushi, I like beef", no, even without choosing. 00:04:45.909 --> 00:04:49.013 I don't know why it is that I like guys, but I do. 00:04:49.780 --> 00:04:52.399 That's why, like you, I don't know everything. 00:04:52.560 --> 00:04:55.214 You like both guys and girls.. but the ratio is... 00:04:55.249 --> 00:05:01.172 Perhaps that ratio is different from us and a well known bisexual people. 00:05:01.324 --> 00:05:06.621 Everyone lies on their own position on the sexuality spectrum. 00:05:06.666 --> 00:05:10.224 Well, consulting us is good but, 00:05:10.249 --> 00:05:13.310 you should probably listen to your heart. 00:05:13.335 --> 00:05:15.175 Even if we don't get physical, 00:05:15.175 --> 00:05:21.947 if I fall in love, it means I'm bi, right? 00:05:21.972 --> 00:05:24.376 You mean without doing anything sexual? 00:05:25.444 --> 00:05:28.192 - That's difficult... - Difficult, right? 00:05:28.252 --> 00:05:33.877 We are really vulgar, so if we get hard, that means we like him. 00:05:34.815 --> 00:05:42.815 If the partner is gay, if we don't get hard that means we don't like him. 00:05:43.319 --> 00:05:47.755 So judging based on whether I can see the person as a sexual partner. 00:05:47.780 --> 00:05:49.802 I also want them to see me as a sexual partner. 00:05:49.802 --> 00:05:51.372 Right. 00:05:51.397 --> 00:05:54.043 Without that, I'd worry there's no meaning to it. 00:05:54.913 --> 00:06:01.292 How... how was your first time? Maybe "how" is strange but... 00:06:01.699 --> 00:06:04.755 - I want you to tell me about your first. - First time I had sex? 00:06:05.042 --> 00:06:10.201 Even though I've known I was gay and liked guys since I was a kid... 00:06:10.226 --> 00:06:13.253 There wasn't the opportunity to meet other gay people. 00:06:13.277 --> 00:06:20.117 When I first did it, I was only happy. To have someone to share that with was... 00:06:20.174 --> 00:06:22.805 Simply felt great. 00:06:23.009 --> 00:06:25.201 Like "I did it!". 00:06:25.420 --> 00:06:29.140 - But the first time I did it, I got a strong sense of guilt. - There was. 00:06:29.635 --> 00:06:30.675 -Guilt? -Right. 00:06:31.025 --> 00:06:33.593 That was when I was an adolescent and young. 00:06:33.617 --> 00:06:38.269 And even though I really really wanted to do it, I felt strong regret. 00:06:38.294 --> 00:06:42.885 I showered so hard. "I'm dirty, I'm dirty!". 00:06:43.044 --> 00:06:47.336 - Like all hunched up in the fetal position, right? - So your feelings seemed like a girl who's lost her virginity. 00:06:47.361 --> 00:06:52.369 No, a more deep sense of guilt. Like really I had done a forbidden thing. 00:06:52.424 --> 00:06:57.275 - Well, it was that period as well. - Ah you're saying the prejudices of that period were a little greater. 00:06:57.329 --> 00:07:02.151 - More than now? - Yeah, even though I did that, I wasn't dirty, 00:07:02.176 --> 00:07:06.695 I knew I was gay, so that guilt is definitely strange. 00:07:06.918 --> 00:07:11.372 Even though I was like "I'll never do it again". I waited a week before I did it again. 00:07:11.405 --> 00:07:14.550 - That's only human. - Yeah, it's only human. 00:07:14.575 --> 00:07:17.248 But I do wonder if you feeling of accomplishment. 00:07:17.273 --> 00:07:19.204 - I felt both accomplishment and guilt. - Both ways. 00:07:19.229 --> 00:07:22.035 A feeling of "Yes! I did it" but also... 00:07:22.060 --> 00:07:24.505 - "Oh no, did I take a step down an awful path?" 00:07:24.529 --> 00:07:25.338 Yeah yeah. 00:07:25.362 --> 00:07:29.434 Hey look, on TV you can find all kinds of talent on TV. 00:07:29.466 --> 00:07:31.989 Many of which are gay and it's normal. 00:07:32.014 --> 00:07:35.450 As we live in that kind of time... 00:07:35.474 --> 00:07:38.056 I wonder whether that feeling of guilt would still exist. 00:07:38.097 --> 00:07:40.885 - On the contrary, you're blessed. - Blessed to live in this time? 00:07:40.910 --> 00:07:42.410 Yeah. 00:07:42.508 --> 00:07:49.103 It is like the environment, the period also... it's got easier maybe. 00:07:49.617 --> 00:07:52.569 I think the number of supporters has increased. 00:07:53.465 --> 00:07:56.592 Like, everyone's different but as for my own sexuality, 00:07:56.617 --> 00:08:00.343 When you are young, you assume that your sexuality is your whole self. 00:08:00.368 --> 00:08:03.990 Your sexuality is just a part of you. 00:08:04.418 --> 00:08:08.545 If you are gay or bi, if there is fierce criticism, 00:08:09.217 --> 00:08:13.409 Most of your friends interact with you as a friend, not bi so... 00:08:13.434 --> 00:08:16.957 there's not such a problem of criticism, you can not worry so much. 00:08:16.982 --> 00:08:18.482 Yeah. 00:08:18.694 --> 00:08:22.051 It was good to hear, to be able to learn from you. 00:08:22.826 --> 00:08:26.254 Live life with no regrets. 00:08:26.279 --> 00:08:27.948 Time flies! 00:08:28.324 --> 00:08:31.038 OK, I'll come again. Next time, maybe as a couple. 00:08:32.517 --> 00:08:35.246 I hope to come with someone. 00:08:35.272 --> 00:08:38.368 If you come alone, I'll give you a massage. 00:08:42.587 --> 00:08:44.865 - Thank you. - Thank you. 00:08:51.385 --> 00:08:53.988 Cute isn't he? Innocent. 00:08:54.366 --> 00:08:56.366 - Times were really like that for us. 00:08:56.469 --> 00:08:57.969 It wasn't like that. 00:08:58.136 --> 00:09:00.692 - It was, but you don't remember. - Is that so? 00:09:01.484 --> 00:09:06.484 [Translated and Timed by holyone2] [Reviewed by Koma]