0:00:00.500,0:00:02.000 organisations is done in accordance[br]with New Zealand law and 0:00:02.000,0:00:02.500 organisations is done in accordance[br]with New Zealand law and all 0:00:02.500,0:00:03.000 organisations is done in accordance[br]with New Zealand law and all human 0:00:03.000,0:00:04.000 with New Zealand law and all human[br]rights 0:00:04.000,0:00:04.500 with New Zealand law and all human[br]rights 0:00:04.500,0:00:05.000 with New Zealand law and all human[br]rights obligations imposed by New 0:00:05.000,0:00:05.500 with New Zealand law and all human[br]rights obligations imposed by New 0:00:05.500,0:00:06.000 rights obligations imposed by New[br]Zealand law. . 0:00:06.000,0:00:06.500 rights obligations imposed by New[br]Zealand law. . 0:00:06.500,0:00:07.000 rights obligations imposed by New[br]Zealand law. . I call 0:00:07.000,0:00:07.500 rights obligations imposed by New[br]Zealand law. . I call 0:00:07.500,0:00:08.000 Zealand law. . I call the Hon David[br]Parker. 0:00:08.000,0:00:08.500 Zealand law. . I call the Hon David[br]Parker. 0:00:08.500,0:00:09.000 Zealand law. . I call the Hon David[br]Parker. I will take 0:00:09.000,0:00:09.500 Zealand law. . I call the Hon David[br]Parker. I will take a 0:00:09.500,0:00:11.000 Zealand law. . I call the Hon David[br]Parker. I will take a brief call 0:00:11.000,0:00:11.500 Zealand law. . I call the Hon David[br]Parker. I will take a brief call in 0:00:11.500,0:00:12.000 Parker. I will take a brief call in[br]respect of Part 0:00:12.000,0:00:14.000 Parker. I will take a brief call in[br]respect of Part 0:00:14.000,0:00:14.500 Parker. I will take a brief call in[br]respect of Part 2 0:00:14.500,0:00:15.000 Parker. I will take a brief call in[br]respect of Part 2 of the 0:00:15.000,0:00:15.500 Parker. I will take a brief call in[br]respect of Part 2 of the 0:00:15.500,0:00:16.000 respect of Part 2 of the amendments[br]to 0:00:16.000,0:00:16.500 respect of Part 2 of the amendments[br]to 0:00:16.500,0:00:17.000 respect of Part 2 of the amendments[br]to the Intelligence and 0:00:17.000,0:00:17.500 respect of Part 2 of the amendments[br]to the Intelligence and 0:00:17.500,0:00:18.000 to the Intelligence and Security[br]Bill. I 0:00:18.000,0:00:18.500 to the Intelligence and Security[br]Bill. I 0:00:18.500,0:00:19.000 to the Intelligence and Security[br]Bill. I accept ha 0:00:19.000,0:00:19.500 to the Intelligence and Security[br]Bill. I accept ha 0:00:19.500,0:00:20.000 Bill. I accept ha the amendments[br]that are 0:00:20.000,0:00:20.500 Bill. I accept ha the amendments[br]that are 0:00:20.500,0:00:21.000 Bill. I accept ha the amendments[br]that are shown in 0:00:21.000,0:00:22.000 Bill. I accept ha the amendments[br]that are shown in 0:00:22.000,0:00:22.500 Bill. I accept ha the amendments[br]that are shown in the 0:00:22.500,0:00:24.000 Bill. I accept ha the amendments[br]that are shown in the minister's SOP 0:00:24.000,0:00:24.500 that are shown in the minister's SOP[br]don't 0:00:24.500,0:00:25.000 that are shown in the minister's SOP[br]don't change the substance 0:00:25.000,0:00:25.500 that are shown in the minister's SOP[br]don't change the substance 0:00:25.500,0:00:26.000 don't change the substance and that[br]they 0:00:26.000,0:00:27.000 don't change the substance and that[br]they 0:00:27.000,0:00:27.500 don't change the substance and that[br]they are 0:00:27.500,0:00:28.000 they are merely drafting[br]improvements. Can 0:00:28.000,0:00:28.500 they are merely drafting[br]improvements. Can 0:00:28.500,0:00:29.000 they are merely drafting[br]improvements. Can I talk 0:00:29.000,0:00:30.000 they are merely drafting[br]improvements. Can I talk 0:00:30.000,0:00:30.500 they are merely drafting[br]improvements. Can I talk to 0:00:30.500,0:00:31.000 improvements. Can I talk to Clause[br]20 0:00:31.000,0:00:31.500 improvements. Can I talk to Clause[br]20 0:00:31.500,0:00:32.000 improvements. Can I talk to Clause 0:00:32.000,0:00:32.500 improvements. Can I talk to Clause 0:00:32.500,0:00:33.000 improvements. Can I talk to Clause 0:00:33.000,0:00:33.500 improvements. Can I talk to Clause 0:00:35.000,0:00:35.500 select committee and I want to speak[br]in 0:00:35.500,0:00:36.000 select committee and I want to speak[br]in favour of the form 0:00:36.000,0:00:36.500 select committee and I want to speak[br]in favour of the form 0:00:36.500,0:00:37.000 select committee and I want to speak[br]in favour of the form that it 0:00:37.000,0:00:37.500 select committee and I want to speak[br]in favour of the form that it 0:00:37.500,0:00:38.000 in favour of the form that it has[br]come back 0:00:38.000,0:00:38.500 in favour of the form that it has[br]come back 0:00:38.500,0:00:40.000 in favour of the form that it has[br]come back from select committee. 0:00:40.000,0:00:40.500 come back from select committee.[br]Sir, 0:00:40.500,0:00:41.000 come back from select committee.[br]Sir, the 0:00:41.000,0:00:41.500 come back from select committee.[br]Sir, the 0:00:41.500,0:00:42.000 Sir, the obligation for political[br]knew 0:00:42.000,0:00:42.500 Sir, the obligation for political[br]knew 0:00:42.500,0:00:43.000 Sir, the obligation for political[br]knew tralet, I think 0:00:43.000,0:00:43.500 Sir, the obligation for political[br]knew tralet, I think 0:00:43.500,0:00:44.000 Sir, the obligation for political[br]knew tralet, I think when I spoke 0:00:44.000,0:00:44.500 Sir, the obligation for political[br]knew tralet, I think when I spoke 0:00:44.500,0:00:45.000 knew tralet, I think when I spoke in[br]the first 0:00:45.000,0:00:46.000 knew tralet, I think when I spoke in[br]the first 0:00:46.000,0:00:46.500 knew tralet, I think when I spoke in[br]the first reading 0:00:46.500,0:00:47.000 knew tralet, I think when I spoke in[br]the first reading debate I 0:00:47.000,0:00:47.500 knew tralet, I think when I spoke in[br]the first reading debate I 0:00:47.500,0:00:48.000 the first reading debate I confused[br]in my contribution 0:00:48.000,0:00:48.500 the first reading debate I confused[br]in my contribution 0:00:48.500,0:00:49.000 the first reading debate I confused[br]in my contribution the GCSB with 0:00:49.000,0:00:49.500 the first reading debate I confused[br]in my contribution the GCSB with 0:00:49.500,0:00:50.000 the first reading debate I confused[br]in my contribution the GCSB with the 0:00:50.000,0:00:50.500 in my contribution the GCSB with the[br]SIS 0:00:50.500,0:00:51.000 in my contribution the GCSB with the[br]SIS and the attorney 0:00:51.000,0:00:51.500 in my contribution the GCSB with the[br]SIS and the attorney kindly 0:00:51.500,0:00:52.000 SIS and the attorney kindly pointed[br]that out 0:00:52.000,0:00:52.500 SIS and the attorney kindly pointed[br]that out 0:00:52.500,0:00:53.000 SIS and the attorney kindly pointed[br]that out before I dug 0:00:53.000,0:00:53.500 SIS and the attorney kindly pointed[br]that out before I dug 0:00:53.500,0:00:54.000 that out before I dug myself too[br]deep 0:00:54.000,0:00:54.500 that out before I dug myself too[br]deep 0:00:54.500,0:00:55.000 that out before I dug myself too[br]deep a hole. The 0:00:55.000,0:00:55.500 that out before I dug myself too[br]deep a hole. The 0:00:55.500,0:00:56.000 that out before I dug myself too[br]deep a hole. The point I 0:00:56.000,0:00:56.500 that out before I dug myself too[br]deep a hole. The point I was 0:00:56.500,0:00:57.000 deep a hole. The point I was making[br]was 0:00:57.000,0:00:57.500 deep a hole. The point I was making[br]was 0:00:57.500,0:00:58.000 deep a hole. The point I was making[br]was Warren Tucker when 0:00:58.000,0:00:58.500 deep a hole. The point I was making[br]was Warren Tucker when 0:00:58.500,0:00:59.000 deep a hole. The point I was making[br]was Warren Tucker when head of 0:00:59.000,0:00:59.500 deep a hole. The point I was making[br]was Warren Tucker when head of 0:00:59.500,0:01:00.000 was Warren Tucker when head of the[br]SIS allowed his 0:01:00.000,0:01:00.500 was Warren Tucker when head of the[br]SIS allowed his 0:01:00.500,0:01:01.000 was Warren Tucker when head of the[br]SIS allowed his office to 0:01:01.000,0:01:01.500 was Warren Tucker when head of the[br]SIS allowed his office to 0:01:01.500,0:01:02.000 SIS allowed his office to be used in[br]a 0:01:02.000,0:01:02.500 SIS allowed his office to be used in[br]a 0:01:02.500,0:01:03.000 SIS allowed his office to be used in[br]a way that 0:01:03.000,0:01:03.500 SIS allowed his office to be used in[br]a way that 0:01:03.500,0:01:04.000 SIS allowed his office to be used in[br]a way that was not 0:01:04.000,0:01:04.500 SIS allowed his office to be used in[br]a way that was not 0:01:04.500,0:01:05.000 a way that was not politically[br]neutral. In 0:01:05.000,0:01:06.000 a way that was not politically[br]neutral. In 0:01:06.000,0:01:06.500 a way that was not politically[br]neutral. In order 0:01:06.500,0:01:07.000 a way that was not politically[br]neutral. In order to guard against 0:01:07.000,0:01:07.500 a way that was not politically[br]neutral. In order to guard against 0:01:07.500,0:01:08.000 neutral. In order to guard against[br]that 0:01:08.000,0:01:08.500 neutral. In order to guard against[br]that happening 0:01:08.500,0:01:09.000 neutral. In order to guard against[br]that happening again, Clause 20, 0:01:09.000,0:01:09.500 neutral. In order to guard against[br]that happening again, Clause 20, 0:01:09.500,0:01:10.000 that happening again, Clause 20, the[br]purpose of 0:01:10.000,0:01:10.500 that happening again, Clause 20, the[br]purpose of 0:01:10.500,0:01:11.000 that happening again, Clause 20, the[br]purpose of Clause 20, 0:01:11.000,0:01:11.500 that happening again, Clause 20, the[br]purpose of Clause 20, which 0:01:11.500,0:01:12.000 that happening again, Clause 20, the[br]purpose of Clause 20, which is 0:01:12.000,0:01:13.000 that happening again, Clause 20, the[br]purpose of Clause 20, which is 0:01:13.000,0:01:13.500 that happening again, Clause 20, the[br]purpose of Clause 20, which is the 0:01:13.500,0:01:15.000 purpose of Clause 20, which is the[br]specific 0:01:15.000,0:01:15.500 purpose of Clause 20, which is the[br]specific duties 0:01:15.500,0:01:16.000 purpose of Clause 20, which is the[br]specific duties of the 0:01:16.000,0:01:16.500 purpose of Clause 20, which is the[br]specific duties of the 0:01:16.500,0:01:17.000 specific duties of the 0:01:17.000,0:01:17.500 specific duties of the 0:01:22.000,0:01:22.500 security agency, which includes the[br]SIS, 0:01:22.500,0:01:23.000 security agency, which includes the[br]SIS, is included 0:01:23.000,0:01:23.500 security agency, which includes the[br]SIS, is included 0:01:23.500,0:01:24.000 security agency, which includes the 0:01:24.000,0:01:24.500 security agency, which includes the 0:01:28.000,0:01:28.500 must take all reasonable steps to[br]ensure 0:01:28.500,0:01:29.000 must take all reasonable steps to[br]ensure that 0:01:29.000,0:01:29.500 must take all reasonable steps to[br]ensure that 0:01:29.500,0:01:30.000 must take all reasonable steps to 0:01:30.000,0:01:30.500 must take all reasonable steps to 0:01:30.500,0:01:31.000 must take all reasonable steps to 0:01:31.000,0:01:32.000 must take all reasonable steps to 0:01:32.000,0:01:32.500 must take all reasonable steps to 0:01:34.000,0:01:34.500 their activities are politically[br]neutral. 0:01:34.500,0:01:35.000 their activities are politically[br]neutral. For example, 0:01:35.000,0:01:35.500 their activities are politically[br]neutral. For example, 0:01:35.500,0:01:36.000 their activities are politically[br]neutral. For example, the 0:01:36.000,0:01:36.500 their activities are politically[br]neutral. For example, the activities 0:01:36.500,0:01:37.000 neutral. For example, the activities[br]aren't carried out for 0:01:37.000,0:01:38.000 neutral. For example, the activities[br]aren't carried out for 0:01:38.000,0:01:38.500 neutral. For example, the activities[br]aren't carried out for the 0:01:38.500,0:01:39.000 aren't carried out for the purpose[br]of promoting or 0:01:39.000,0:01:39.500 aren't carried out for the purpose[br]of promoting or 0:01:39.500,0:01:40.000 of promoting or harming the[br]interests 0:01:40.000,0:01:41.000 of promoting or harming the[br]interests 0:01:41.000,0:01:41.500 of promoting or harming the[br]interests of 0:01:41.500,0:01:42.000 of promoting or harming the[br]interests of any plait call 0:01:42.000,0:01:42.500 of promoting or harming the[br]interests of any plait call 0:01:42.500,0:01:43.000 of promoting or harming the[br]interests of any plait call party or 0:01:43.000,0:01:43.500 of promoting or harming the[br]interests of any plait call party or 0:01:43.500,0:01:44.000 interests of any plait call party or[br]candidate, sir. All you can 0:01:44.000,0:01:44.500 interests of any plait call party or[br]candidate, sir. All you can 0:01:44.500,0:01:45.000 candidate, sir. All you can do in[br]respect of these, 0:01:45.000,0:01:45.500 candidate, sir. All you can do in[br]respect of these, 0:01:45.500,0:01:46.000 candidate, sir. All you can do in[br]respect of these, if you 0:01:46.000,0:01:46.500 candidate, sir. All you can do in[br]respect of these, if you 0:01:46.500,0:01:47.000 respect of these, if you accept the[br]proposition that you 0:01:47.000,0:01:47.500 respect of these, if you accept the[br]proposition that you 0:01:47.500,0:01:49.000 respect of these, if you accept the[br]proposition that you need 0:01:49.000,0:01:49.500 respect of these, if you accept the[br]proposition that you need these 0:01:49.500,0:01:50.000 proposition that you need these[br]sorts 0:01:50.000,0:01:50.500 proposition that you need these[br]sorts 0:01:50.500,0:01:51.000 proposition that you need these[br]sorts of agencies, the 0:01:51.000,0:01:51.500 proposition that you need these[br]sorts of agencies, the 0:01:54.000,0:01:54.500 important in order to balance the[br]interests 0:01:54.500,0:01:55.000 important in order to balance the[br]interests of society 0:01:55.000,0:01:55.500 important in order to balance the[br]interests of society 0:01:55.500,0:01:56.000 important in order to balance the[br]interests of society and those 0:01:56.000,0:01:56.500 important in order to balance the[br]interests of society and those 0:01:56.500,0:01:57.000 interests of society and those[br]agencies going about 0:01:57.000,0:01:57.500 interests of society and those[br]agencies going about 0:01:57.500,0:01:58.000 interests of society and those[br]agencies going about their business 0:01:58.000,0:01:58.500 interests of society and those[br]agencies going about their business 0:01:58.500,0:01:59.000 agencies going about their business[br]is a 0:01:59.000,0:01:59.500 agencies going about their business[br]is a 0:01:59.500,0:02:00.000 agencies going about their business[br]is a counterveiling duty that 0:02:00.000,0:02:00.500 agencies going about their business[br]is a counterveiling duty that 0:02:00.500,0:02:01.000 is a counterveiling duty that they[br]don't go 0:02:01.000,0:02:01.500 is a counterveiling duty that they[br]don't go too 0:02:01.500,0:02:02.000 is a counterveiling duty that they[br]don't go too far and undermine 0:02:02.000,0:02:02.500 is a counterveiling duty that they[br]don't go too far and undermine 0:02:02.500,0:02:03.000 don't go too far and undermine the[br]so sitise 0:02:03.000,0:02:03.500 don't go too far and undermine the[br]so sitise 0:02:03.500,0:02:04.000 don't go too far and undermine the[br]so sitise that they are meant 0:02:04.000,0:02:04.500 don't go too far and undermine the[br]so sitise that they are meant 0:02:04.500,0:02:05.000 don't go too far and undermine the 0:02:05.000,0:02:05.500 don't go too far and undermine the 0:02:08.000,0:02:08.500 society that they are meant to be[br]protecting, 0:02:08.500,0:02:09.000 society that they are meant to be[br]protecting, which is a 0:02:09.000,0:02:09.500 society that they are meant to be[br]protecting, which is a point 0:02:09.500,0:02:10.000 protecting, which is a point that[br]Kennedy 0:02:10.000,0:02:10.500 protecting, which is a point that[br]Kennedy 0:02:10.500,0:02:11.000 protecting, which is a point that[br]Kennedy Graham made in 0:02:11.000,0:02:11.500 protecting, which is a point that[br]Kennedy Graham made in 0:02:11.500,0:02:12.000 Kennedy Graham made in his initial[br]contribution, sir. 0:02:12.000,0:02:12.500 Kennedy Graham made in his initial[br]contribution, sir. 0:02:12.500,0:02:14.000 Kennedy Graham made in his initial[br]contribution, sir. I think 0:02:14.000,0:02:14.500 Kennedy Graham made in his initial[br]contribution, sir. I think that 0:02:14.500,0:02:15.000 contribution, sir. I think that the[br]addition of 0:02:15.000,0:02:15.500 contribution, sir. I think that the[br]addition of 0:02:15.500,0:02:17.000 contribution, sir. I think that the[br]addition of that clause, 0:02:17.000,0:02:18.000 contribution, sir. I think that the[br]addition of that clause, 0:02:18.000,0:02:18.500 contribution, sir. I think that the[br]addition of that clause, 20(a)(3) 0:02:18.500,0:02:20.000 addition of that clause, 20(a)(3) is[br]good. 0:02:20.000,0:02:20.500 addition of that clause, 20(a)(3) is[br]good. In 0:02:20.500,0:02:21.000 addition of that clause, 20(a)(3) is[br]good. In the 0:02:21.000,0:02:21.500 addition of that clause, 20(a)(3) is[br]good. In the 0:02:21.500,0:02:22.000 addition of that clause, 20(a)(3) is[br]good. In the end the oversight 0:02:22.000,0:02:23.000 addition of that clause, 20(a)(3) is[br]good. In the end the oversight 0:02:23.000,0:02:23.500 addition of that clause, 20(a)(3) is[br]good. In the end the oversight of 0:02:23.500,0:02:24.000 good. In the end the oversight of[br]these agencies depends most not 0:02:24.000,0:02:24.500 good. In the end the oversight of[br]these agencies depends most not 0:02:24.500,0:02:25.000 these agencies depends most not just[br]on the calibre 0:02:25.000,0:02:25.500 these agencies depends most not just[br]on the calibre 0:02:25.500,0:02:26.000 these agencies depends most not just[br]on the calibre of the people 0:02:26.000,0:02:26.500 these agencies depends most not just[br]on the calibre of the people 0:02:26.500,0:02:27.000 on the calibre of the people that[br]you appoint 0:02:27.000,0:02:27.500 on the calibre of the people that[br]you appoint to 0:02:27.500,0:02:28.000 on the calibre of the people that[br]you appoint to those positions but 0:02:28.000,0:02:28.500 on the calibre of the people that[br]you appoint to those positions but 0:02:28.500,0:02:29.000 you appoint to those positions but[br]to the oversight 0:02:29.000,0:02:29.500 you appoint to those positions but[br]to the oversight 0:02:29.500,0:02:30.000 you appoint to those positions but[br]to the oversight of the 0:02:30.000,0:02:30.500 you appoint to those positions but[br]to the oversight of the 0:02:30.500,0:02:32.000 you appoint to those positions but[br]to the oversight of the inspector 0:02:32.000,0:02:32.500 to the oversight of the inspector[br]general 0:02:32.500,0:02:33.000 to the oversight of the inspector[br]general of intelligence 0:02:33.000,0:02:35.000 to the oversight of the inspector[br]general of intelligence 0:02:35.000,0:02:35.500 to the oversight of the inspector[br]general of intelligence activity, 0:02:35.500,0:02:36.000 general of intelligence activity,[br]the IGIS 0:02:36.000,0:02:38.000 general of intelligence activity,[br]the IGIS 0:02:38.000,0:02:38.500 general of intelligence activity,[br]the IGIS I 0:02:38.500,0:02:39.000 general of intelligence activity,[br]the IGIS I think 0:02:39.000,0:02:39.500 general of intelligence activity,[br]the IGIS I think 0:02:39.500,0:02:40.000 general of intelligence activity,[br]the IGIS I think we described 0:02:40.000,0:02:40.500 general of intelligence activity,[br]the IGIS I think we described 0:02:40.500,0:02:42.000 general of intelligence activity,[br]the IGIS I think we described hers 0:02:42.000,0:02:42.500 the IGIS I think we described hers[br]a, 0:02:42.500,0:02:43.000 the IGIS I think we described hers[br]a, currently 0:02:43.000,0:02:43.500 the IGIS I think we described hers[br]a, currently 0:02:43.500,0:02:45.000 the IGIS I think we described hers[br]a, currently Cheryl GWYNN. I 0:02:45.000,0:02:45.500 the IGIS I think we described hers[br]a, currently Cheryl GWYNN. I 0:02:45.500,0:02:46.000 a, currently Cheryl GWYNN. I think[br]it is 0:02:46.000,0:02:46.500 a, currently Cheryl GWYNN. I think[br]it is 0:02:46.500,0:02:47.000 a, currently Cheryl GWYNN. I think[br]it is an appropriate 0:02:47.000,0:02:47.500 a, currently Cheryl GWYNN. I think[br]it is an appropriate 0:02:47.500,0:02:48.000 a, currently Cheryl GWYNN. I think[br]it is an appropriate addition as it 0:02:48.000,0:02:48.500 it is an appropriate addition as it[br]came 0:02:48.500,0:02:49.000 it is an appropriate addition as it[br]came back from the select 0:02:49.000,0:02:49.500 it is an appropriate addition as it[br]came back from the select committee. 0:02:49.500,0:02:52.000 it is an appropriate addition as it[br]came back from the select committee. 0:02:54.000,0:02:54.500 came back from the select committee.[br]Iain 0:02:54.500,0:02:55.000 came back from the select committee. 0:02:55.000,0:02:55.500 came back from the select committee. 0:02:55.500,0:02:56.000 came back from the select committee. 0:02:56.000,0:02:57.000 came back from the select committee. 0:02:58.000,0:02:58.500 turn the minister's attention to[br]clause 0:02:58.500,0:03:00.000 turn the minister's attention to[br]clause 0:03:00.000,0:03:00.500 turn the minister's attention to[br]clause 13, 0:03:00.500,0:03:01.000 turn the minister's attention to[br]clause 13, the intelligence 0:03:01.000,0:03:02.000 turn the minister's attention to[br]clause 13, the intelligence 0:03:02.000,0:03:02.500 clause 13, the intelligence[br]collection 0:03:02.500,0:03:05.000 clause 13, the intelligence[br]collection and analysis. 0:03:05.000,0:03:05.500 collection and analysis.[br]Specifically 0:03:05.500,0:03:08.000 collection and analysis.[br]Specifically I