organisations is done in accordance with New Zealand law and all human
rights
with New Zealand law and all human rights obligations imposed by New
Zealand law. .
rights obligations imposed by New Zealand law. . I call
the Hon David Parker. I will take a brief call in
respect of Part
Parker. I will take a brief call in respect of Part 2 of the
amendments to the Intelligence and
Security Bill. I accept ha
the amendments that are shown in the minister's SOP
don't
that are shown in the minister's SOP don't change the substance
and that they are
they are merely drafting improvements. Can I talk to
Clause 20
improvements. Can I talk to Clause
select committee and I want to speak in favour of the form that it
has come back from select committee.
Sir,
come back from select committee. Sir, the
Sir, the obligation for political knew tralet, I think when I spoke
in the first reading debate I
confused in my contribution the GCSB with the
SIS
in my contribution the GCSB with the SIS and the attorney kindly
pointed that out before I dug
myself too deep a hole. The point I was
making was Warren Tucker when head of
the SIS allowed his office to
be used in a way that was not
politically neutral. In order to guard against
that
neutral. In order to guard against that happening again, Clause 20,
the purpose of Clause 20, which is the
specific
purpose of Clause 20, which is the specific duties of the
security agency, which includes the SIS, is included
security agency, which includes the
must take all reasonable steps to ensure that
must take all reasonable steps to
their activities are politically neutral. For example, the activities
aren't carried out for
neutral. For example, the activities aren't carried out for the
purpose of promoting or
harming the interests of any plait call party or
candidate, sir. All you can do in respect of these, if you
accept the proposition that you need these
sorts
proposition that you need these sorts of agencies, the
important in order to balance the interests of society and those
agencies going about
interests of society and those agencies going about their business
is a
agencies going about their business is a counterveiling duty that
they don't go too far and undermine
the so sitise that they are meant
don't go too far and undermine the
society that they are meant to be protecting, which is a point
that Kennedy Graham made in
his initial contribution, sir. I think that
the addition of that clause, 20(a)(3)
is good. In the end the oversight of
these agencies depends most not just on the calibre of the people
that you appoint to those positions but
to the oversight
you appoint to those positions but to the oversight of the inspector
general
to the oversight of the inspector general of intelligence activity,
the IGIS
general of intelligence activity, the IGIS I think we described hers
a,
the IGIS I think we described hers a, currently Cheryl GWYNN. I
think it is an appropriate addition as it
came
it is an appropriate addition as it came back from the select committee.
Iain
came back from the select committee.
turn the minister's attention to clause 13, the intelligence
collection
clause 13, the intelligence collection and analysis.
Specifically
collection and analysis. Specifically I