1 00:00:26,023 --> 00:00:30,119 The picture you are about to see deals with the problem of self-destruction. 2 00:00:31,329 --> 00:00:37,427 Its purpose was to enable people to better understand the nature of this strange, tragic act. 3 00:00:38,035 --> 00:00:42,206 We shall not be able to diminish this great human affliction 4 00:00:42,206 --> 00:00:47,337 until more people do understand it and appreciate its seriousness. 5 00:00:50,481 --> 00:00:52,312 Voices in the Dark 6 00:00:53,651 --> 00:00:57,246 A lot of things about the world these days are very scary. 7 00:01:07,832 --> 00:01:13,237 My generation may be one of the first generations where a lot of us die... ...not of old age. 8 00:01:13,237 --> 00:01:15,501 Because a lot of us may not make it there. 9 00:01:20,411 --> 00:01:26,350 Global warming... it's gonna do this and our climate's gonna go weird and... 10 00:01:27,351 --> 00:01:30,047 ...like another ice age or something. 11 00:01:38,196 --> 00:01:41,256 I think the scariest things aren't for me. 12 00:01:41,666 --> 00:01:48,504 The scariest things are thinking that I might leave a world to my children 13 00:01:49,307 --> 00:01:56,975 that would be really difficult and painful for them. 14 00:01:57,915 --> 00:02:00,418 I think we're all fucked. All of us. 15 00:02:00,418 --> 00:02:04,355 I think most of us in this room are gonna die before we reach... 16 00:02:04,355 --> 00:02:07,191 I don't believe that we would wipe ourselves out entirely. 17 00:02:07,191 --> 00:02:10,728 I believe that... I believe that we can probably fall down to... 18 00:02:10,728 --> 00:02:13,898 There's gotta be a way. There's gotta be a way to live through it... 19 00:02:13,898 --> 00:02:21,205 Once we're able to look at the world without blinders and see the really horrific mess we're making of it... 20 00:02:21,205 --> 00:02:25,977 We have got to change our whole idea of the way that the world works... 21 00:02:25,977 --> 00:02:29,547 I generally just feel like everything is out of balance. 22 00:02:29,547 --> 00:02:32,516 Nothing that I can do will make any impact on the planet. 23 00:02:32,516 --> 00:02:37,922 We're living a way that doesn't work. We have to live a way that does work. So it's gonna change. 24 00:02:37,922 --> 00:02:42,552 You can't change what's happening in Washington. You can't change what's happening over in Iraq. 25 00:02:57,375 --> 00:02:59,605 "We've met the enemy and he is us. " 26 00:03:05,549 --> 00:03:11,283 I guess I just tell myself that it's all gonna be OK. You kinda have to to keep going. 27 00:03:16,394 --> 00:03:19,158 It's not a happy thing to think about. 28 00:03:36,347 --> 00:03:40,249 There was a time in my life when I was having this recurring daydream. 29 00:03:43,821 --> 00:03:50,727 I'd be sitting in my car, radio blaring, slowly making my way forward through a fast food drive thru. 30 00:03:54,932 --> 00:03:59,164 I'd get to the window and they'd hand me my drink and my burger and fries. 31 00:04:00,271 --> 00:04:05,038 And as i waited for me change. . . off in the distance. . . 32 00:04:06,477 --> 00:04:10,607 a bright flash... and a rising cloud. 33 00:04:12,316 --> 00:04:16,116 And as the full force of the nuclear blast washed over me... 34 00:04:17,053 --> 00:04:21,184 ...as the icy cold of my overturned Coke seeped into my jeans... 35 00:04:25,730 --> 00:04:27,357 I'd think to myself... 36 00:04:28,666 --> 00:04:30,497 ... what a way to go. 37 00:04:37,141 --> 00:04:42,813 Yeah I think that we might wipe ourselves off the Earth. 38 00:04:42,813 --> 00:04:46,943 Definitely. I feel like that's where we're headed. 39 00:04:47,551 --> 00:04:50,554 There's an emptiness that other needs... 40 00:04:50,554 --> 00:04:51,922 the real needs... 41 00:04:51,922 --> 00:04:54,759 the real desires aren't being met. 42 00:04:54,759 --> 00:04:57,928 And we're just scrambling with what our culture offers us. 43 00:04:57,928 --> 00:05:02,433 And our culture tells us... you know our culture tells us we will find love 44 00:05:02,433 --> 00:05:06,937 if we buy this lipstick and that make-up and these clothes and this car. 45 00:05:06,937 --> 00:05:09,974 I think it would be OK if we gave the Earth back 46 00:05:09,974 --> 00:05:14,078 to everybody else why is not as destructive. 47 00:05:14,078 --> 00:05:16,512 All the rest of the life on Earth. 48 00:05:25,589 --> 00:05:31,323 I was born in the American Midwest, central Michigan, the "water winter wonderland". 49 00:05:31,996 --> 00:05:37,195 I was raised in the arms of an extended rural family.: mostly farming folk... 50 00:05:37,435 --> 00:05:41,462 ...solid, hard working, quiet, giving. 51 00:05:41,972 --> 00:05:48,275 I was bom into warmth and plenty to eat, a sense of place, and a surety of security. 52 00:05:49,079 --> 00:05:51,138 And I was born into stories. 53 00:05:51,449 --> 00:05:54,850 Stories about the value of work and the right way to live. 54 00:05:54,952 --> 00:06:01,050 Stories about God and country, about community, loyalty, steadfastness, and resolve. 55 00:06:01,358 --> 00:06:04,987 Stories about the role and place of humans on this planet. 56 00:06:05,863 --> 00:06:09,890 Stories about our relationship to something we called "nature". 57 00:06:11,368 --> 00:06:13,427 I was born into stories. 58 00:06:16,106 --> 00:06:18,131 Nobody told me these stories. 59 00:06:18,375 --> 00:06:19,706 They didn't have to. 60 00:06:19,977 --> 00:06:25,847 The stories were the air I breathed, the water in which I swam, the ground upon which I walked. 61 00:06:26,116 --> 00:06:27,777 They were all around me. 62 00:06:28,185 --> 00:06:30,210 We didn't even know they were stories. 63 00:06:30,988 --> 00:06:33,354 We just thought they were the way things are. 64 00:06:34,325 --> 00:06:36,225 My world was a playground. 65 00:06:36,327 --> 00:06:41,065 There were fish to catch, boats to row, parades to watch, trails to hike, 66 00:06:41,065 --> 00:06:49,473 lakes to swim, snowmobiles to rlde, games to play, presents to open, and family to share it all with. 67 00:06:50,674 --> 00:06:53,444 The days would end with sunsets and fireworks 68 00:06:53,444 --> 00:06:56,880 and sometimes I would dance until I collapsed with joy. 69 00:06:58,649 --> 00:07:02,486 It was a magical land... cherry Popsicles and warm milk, 70 00:07:02,486 --> 00:07:06,855 birthday cakes and store-bought costumes and brand-new chairs under the tree. 71 00:07:07,191 --> 00:07:10,361 A land of giant geese, well-dressed poodles, 72 00:07:10,361 --> 00:07:13,819 talented birds and even more talented people. 73 00:07:15,065 --> 00:07:19,703 The Earth was our merry-go-round, our monkey bars, our swing set. 74 00:07:19,703 --> 00:07:23,833 As long as we didn't look down, everything would be just fine. 75 00:07:27,945 --> 00:07:31,039 I was born halfway up the population explosion. 76 00:07:31,482 --> 00:07:34,474 I was born on the slope of rising CO2 levels. 77 00:07:34,852 --> 00:07:37,878 I was born in the foothills of a mass extinction. 78 00:07:38,322 --> 00:07:41,416 I was born on the rocky rise of oil production. 79 00:07:42,059 --> 00:07:48,032 I was bom facing forward, looking ever upward, my first step a step upslope, 80 00:07:48,032 --> 00:07:52,937 a step into progress, a step into a vast and glorious human future. 81 00:07:52,937 --> 00:07:56,574 We were moving on up. There was no looking back. 82 00:07:56,574 --> 00:08:00,277 There was a mountain to conquer, and conquer it we would. 83 00:08:00,277 --> 00:08:03,110 All we had to do was climb a bit further. 84 00:08:03,180 --> 00:08:06,750 But the mountain we were climbing was not what we thought it was. 85 00:08:06,750 --> 00:08:13,679 Rather than rising from natural forces, the slopes up which we were headed were the results of imbalance and shortsightedness. 86 00:08:13,958 --> 00:08:18,729 In our efforts to progress, to succeed, to improve, to strive, to overcome, 87 00:08:18,729 --> 00:08:21,799 to manage, to shape, to solve, and to grow, 88 00:08:21,799 --> 00:08:24,927 we wielded huge new forces across the globe. 89 00:08:25,402 --> 00:08:30,362 We walked as giants upon the Earth,: unaware of the footprints we left behind. 90 00:08:32,842 --> 00:08:38,682 I have walked that path, unaware of my own big feet, enacting the stories of our culture, 91 00:08:38,682 --> 00:08:43,176 not stopping long enough to feel the instability of the slope underfoot. 92 00:08:45,089 --> 00:08:51,153 But in the late 80s, news of the ozone hole and global warming first hit me, and the ground began to shake. 93 00:08:52,930 --> 00:08:56,233 I stopped and looked around me for the first time. 94 00:08:56,233 --> 00:08:59,031 I got scared. I got involved. 95 00:08:59,703 --> 00:09:04,163 And then the shaking subsided. Or rather, I just got used to it. 96 00:09:05,209 --> 00:09:11,248 Life got more complex with the births of my three children. And there was climbing still to do. 97 00:09:11,248 --> 00:09:13,113 So I continued to climb. 98 00:09:14,351 --> 00:09:16,587 But the tremors were still there, underfoot. 99 00:09:16,587 --> 00:09:21,091 At night I slept, but fitfully, clenched with worries, 100 00:09:21,091 --> 00:09:24,686 my dreams assaulted by vague rumblings from the future. 101 00:09:25,462 --> 00:09:31,402 In my dreams, I would stand at the pinnacle of the present, and look out over the surrounding terrain. 102 00:09:31,402 --> 00:09:34,860 And it didn't look like I had thought it would. . . 103 00:09:48,285 --> 00:09:51,345 A faint howling in the distance pierces the night 104 00:09:51,922 --> 00:09:56,586 The monsters we have created Lumbering to rampant life 105 00:09:57,094 --> 00:10:00,495 Are heading even now toward our village 106 00:10:02,700 --> 00:10:05,168 Nuclear weapons biding their time 107 00:10:05,569 --> 00:10:08,265 Itching with purposes unfulfilled 108 00:10:09,740 --> 00:10:12,732 As hopeful fingers tremble near buttons 109 00:10:15,045 --> 00:10:17,240 Bunker Busters and Tactical nukes 110 00:10:19,450 --> 00:10:21,850 Suitcase bombs and terrorist acts 111 00:10:23,654 --> 00:10:26,248 Power plant accidents and leaking wastes 112 00:10:28,358 --> 00:10:32,294 Plutonium launched into space In rockets known to explode 113 00:10:35,365 --> 00:10:40,325 And depleted uranium poisoning the battlefield Depopulating the land 114 00:10:47,077 --> 00:10:50,342 Chemical warheads And biological black magicks 115 00:10:51,181 --> 00:10:54,275 Sarin and Soman and VX and phosgene 116 00:10:55,586 --> 00:10:58,054 Anthrax and smallpox and plague 117 00:10:58,555 --> 00:11:03,515 Enough to take out entire cities Enough to cover the planet 118 00:11:04,495 --> 00:11:08,864 And they don't care who lets them out As long as they get to play 119 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,564 Others nasties lurch toward us on their own 120 00:11:13,003 --> 00:11:16,495 Old friends, new creations and recent escapees 121 00:11:17,608 --> 00:11:20,577 Ebola, Marburg, Lassa and SARS 122 00:11:20,577 --> 00:11:23,876 Swine Flu, Bird Flu, HIV and AIDS 123 00:11:25,215 --> 00:11:29,515 The rebound of tuberculosis, Cholera, malaria, and typhus 124 00:11:30,687 --> 00:11:35,249 Prions and mad cows Scrapie sheep and chronic wasting disease 125 00:11:35,793 --> 00:11:41,595 Cancers that eat away our lungs our brains Our breasts our testlcles and our ovaries 126 00:11:44,601 --> 00:11:47,126 And new monsters peer over the horizon 127 00:11:48,705 --> 00:11:52,971 Good intentions spliced to Blind arrogance and numbing greed 128 00:11:55,445 --> 00:11:58,175 Frankenfoods and Terminator seeds 129 00:11:58,849 --> 00:12:02,012 Herbicide tolerant and pesticide laced crops 130 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:08,184 Patented Life Barely tested, quietly ticking. . . 131 00:12:08,692 --> 00:12:10,592 Let loose upon the land 132 00:12:11,261 --> 00:12:14,355 As if their creators, having looked at the world, 133 00:12:14,798 --> 00:12:17,733 Managed to learn nothing at all 134 00:12:20,137 --> 00:12:22,372 The monsters howls grow frenzied 135 00:12:22,372 --> 00:12:28,208 Chemicals in our land our sky our rain Our rivers our food our bodies our babies 136 00:12:28,946 --> 00:12:33,576 Rising male infertility rates and Superfund sites and ozone depletion 137 00:12:35,619 --> 00:12:38,383 Rivers dammed and salmon doomed 138 00:12:38,889 --> 00:12:41,517 Topsoil loss and fertilizer run-off 139 00:12:42,359 --> 00:12:45,817 Huge oceanic dead zones And depleted fisheries 140 00:12:46,396 --> 00:12:51,026 And the ghosts of silent whales Scraping over the corpses of coral reefs 141 00:12:55,239 --> 00:12:59,039 The monsters advance And forests collapse under their feet 142 00:13:00,777 --> 00:13:06,044 Leaving indigenous cultures battered, Homeless, soul-sick, or dead 143 00:13:06,717 --> 00:13:11,221 Disrupting water and oxygen cycles And turning soil into deserts 144 00:13:11,221 --> 00:13:16,853 As tigers and salmon and tree frogs and falcons Stumble down the path toward extinction 145 00:13:17,527 --> 00:13:20,664 Their heartrending voices Lost in the chatter of chainsaws 146 00:13:20,664 --> 00:13:23,394 And the coughing insults of bulldozers 147 00:13:26,670 --> 00:13:29,298 And all the while the climate is changing. . . 148 00:13:30,741 --> 00:13:35,412 Angry summers, insistent floods, Belligerent blizzards 149 00:13:35,412 --> 00:13:38,973 Grudging droughts and pissed-off hurricanes 150 00:13:39,349 --> 00:13:44,988 with poles warming and ice shelves calving Permafrost slumping and glaciers receding 151 00:13:44,988 --> 00:13:47,821 Sea levels rising and big cities sinking 152 00:13:48,325 --> 00:13:53,897 As ocean currents halt and superstorms gust, Deserts expand and rabbits run 153 00:13:53,897 --> 00:13:59,267 And locusts horde and army ants march And mosquitoes hunt and rodents overrun 154 00:14:00,971 --> 00:14:03,769 The balance undone 155 00:14:05,142 --> 00:14:10,580 Leaving crops destroyed and diseases vectored And famine and rioting and looting and war 156 00:14:10,580 --> 00:14:15,108 The ocean turns acld and corals And shellfish and planktons dissolve 157 00:14:15,419 --> 00:14:19,456 The disruption of food chains, The collapsing of ecosystems 158 00:14:19,456 --> 00:14:21,947 Tonight on the Weather Channel 159 00:14:24,828 --> 00:14:28,389 (commentator blathering) 160 00:14:28,832 --> 00:14:30,467 Watch it now, while you can 161 00:14:30,467 --> 00:14:33,903 Because oil is peaking, with no clear replacements 162 00:14:35,005 --> 00:14:37,741 Production will falter As demand keeps increasing 163 00:14:37,741 --> 00:14:42,838 And the price, which is rising now, will just keep on rising 164 00:14:45,515 --> 00:14:50,487 Imagine the impact to the global economy To the truckers and farmers 165 00:14:50,487 --> 00:14:52,387 To your neighbors 166 00:14:52,990 --> 00:14:54,423 Yourself 167 00:14:55,192 --> 00:14:59,196 Watch the bidding war rage From trade floors to battlefields 168 00:14:59,196 --> 00:15:02,859 Watch the Pentagon plan and the patriots act 169 00:15:03,834 --> 00:15:07,099 Go look out the window Do you feel a draft? 170 00:15:08,071 --> 00:15:14,169 World population is fueled by the input of oil We could reach 7 billion by 2013 171 00:15:14,711 --> 00:15:18,704 That's billions of bodies more Than the planet can sustain without oll 172 00:15:21,051 --> 00:15:26,490 We're consuming the planet and Poisoning the soil and the air and The water that we all need to live 173 00:15:26,490 --> 00:15:29,357 We're driving a high-speed train To the end of life 174 00:15:29,659 --> 00:15:31,795 And we're taking the rest of the planet 175 00:15:31,795 --> 00:15:34,531 Trillions upon trillions of living souls 176 00:15:34,531 --> 00:15:36,624 Along with us 177 00:15:39,636 --> 00:15:41,194 And all of this 178 00:15:42,272 --> 00:15:43,739 All of this 179 00:15:44,908 --> 00:15:46,375 All of this 180 00:15:47,878 --> 00:15:49,470 All of this 181 00:15:50,647 --> 00:15:55,452 is wrapped tightly inside a culture of denials and lies and absurdities so complex 182 00:15:55,452 --> 00:15:56,520 And so powerful 183 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:58,886 That we can barely see through the smog 184 00:15:59,389 --> 00:16:02,325 The monsters are screeching At the village's edge 185 00:16:02,325 --> 00:16:06,056 So huge and so horrible That we cannot bear to look at them 186 00:16:06,396 --> 00:16:07,226 And we, 187 00:16:07,964 --> 00:16:11,301 Bound in a cultural straightjacket Of our own making, 188 00:16:11,301 --> 00:16:13,804 Slumber on as they draw near 189 00:16:13,804 --> 00:16:18,208 Working jobs we hate Consuming products that do not fulfill 190 00:16:18,208 --> 00:16:24,169 Distracting ourselves as best we can with Television drugs food sex and entertainments 191 00:16:24,748 --> 00:16:27,808 Hoping our leaders will find some answers 192 00:16:28,452 --> 00:16:32,556 Awakening, finally, In the still hours of early morning 193 00:16:32,556 --> 00:16:36,959 To the shapeless realization That they will not 194 00:16:40,897 --> 00:16:47,962 (alarm clock begins to beep and grows louder...) 195 00:16:48,472 --> 00:16:49,905 (click off) 196 00:16:51,608 --> 00:16:55,635 Ah. . . what a nightmare. . . 197 00:16:57,981 --> 00:17:02,786 Well, Johnny, you are in a pretty serious situation. 198 00:17:02,786 --> 00:17:10,318 But we believe - your mother and Mr. Benton and I - that you can make good without being sent away. 199 00:17:15,866 --> 00:17:22,294 There has always been a part of me that has suspected that I would see the end-of-the-world- as-we-know-it in my lifetime. 200 00:17:23,205 --> 00:17:28,178 It seemed built into the situation, a certainty of population dynamics, 201 00:17:28,178 --> 00:17:31,773 the inevitable end to Mr. Malthus' musings. 202 00:17:32,983 --> 00:17:35,051 At some point we would near the sun, 203 00:17:35,051 --> 00:17:38,851 our wings would fail, and we would plummet back to the earth. 204 00:17:38,989 --> 00:17:39,683 "Fuck!" 205 00:17:40,190 --> 00:17:42,959 New voices spoke of possible futures. 206 00:17:42,959 --> 00:17:44,794 "Hey can i have some of those purple berries?" 207 00:17:44,794 --> 00:17:47,597 Crosby, Stills and Nash sailed the Wooden Ships. 208 00:17:47,597 --> 00:17:49,166 "Shit, not again!" 209 00:17:49,166 --> 00:17:51,930 Riddley Walker wrote his connexions. 210 00:17:52,802 --> 00:17:58,175 And Charlton Heston ate Soylent Green with The Omega Man on the Planet of the Apes. 211 00:17:58,175 --> 00:18:00,405 "You maniacs!" 212 00:18:01,711 --> 00:18:08,947 The world looked insane to me but nobody else seemed to notice so I buried my thoughts and muddled on. 213 00:18:09,819 --> 00:18:12,722 Deep inside, this was tearing me to pieces. 214 00:18:12,722 --> 00:18:19,252 I remember looking in at night on my sleeping children, and feeling a deep and gnawing terror for their futures. 215 00:18:20,397 --> 00:18:26,302 But I locked my fears tightly in my heart, hit the snooze button, and slept a while longer. 216 00:18:26,836 --> 00:18:31,841 And then I came across Daniel Quinn and Derrick Jensen, two writers who helped me, 217 00:18:31,841 --> 00:18:35,312 with books such as Ishmael and The Culture of Make Believe, 218 00:18:35,312 --> 00:18:42,185 to recognize the stories of our culture, the beliefs and assumptions and fables that have shaped our lives, 219 00:18:42,185 --> 00:18:48,124 the fairy-tales we have told ourselves, the madness we have made manifest in the world. 220 00:18:49,092 --> 00:18:54,764 Quinn speaks of the Nazi regime, of Adolph Hitler and the story he told the German people.: 221 00:18:54,764 --> 00:19:00,670 a story about the lost destiny of the Aryan race, a story of oppression and defilement, 222 00:19:00,670 --> 00:19:04,407 a story of victory and vengeance and greatness regained. 223 00:19:04,407 --> 00:19:08,678 And Quinn explained how the entire nation, oppressors and oppressed alike, 224 00:19:08,678 --> 00:19:14,514 Jews and Good Germans and Gypsies and Gays, were all held captive by that story. 225 00:19:15,485 --> 00:19:21,224 We who live today inside the dominant global culture are similarly captives of stories.: 226 00:19:21,224 --> 00:19:24,227 stories that surround us like the air we breathe,: 227 00:19:24,227 --> 00:19:27,097 stories that we enact at our own peril,: 228 00:19:27,097 --> 00:19:30,362 stories that threaten the community of life itself. 229 00:19:31,534 --> 00:19:38,497 Have you heard the one about humans being separate from "nature", different, special, the pinnacle of creation? 230 00:19:39,709 --> 00:19:44,373 Or about humans being innately flawed - violent, selfish and greedy? 231 00:19:45,482 --> 00:19:52,122 How about the one that says that the world was made for human beings, to manage, control, and exploit as a resource, 232 00:19:52,122 --> 00:19:56,252 and that the world has no value beyond its utility? 233 00:19:57,193 --> 00:20:03,496 Or the story about there being only one right way to live, and one right way to understand and view the world? 234 00:20:04,367 --> 00:20:09,896 Or about how unlimited growth, competition, and production are all unquestionably good? 235 00:20:10,373 --> 00:20:13,043 Or the story that tells us that we can have and do 236 00:20:13,043 --> 00:20:16,877 anything we think we want, because there are no limits? 237 00:20:18,615 --> 00:20:22,385 There were people in the world looking squarely at our cultural stories, 238 00:20:22,385 --> 00:20:23,887 and at the global predicament, 239 00:20:23,887 --> 00:20:25,722 and seeing what I saw.: 240 00:20:25,722 --> 00:20:30,682 our culture, in its present configuration, could not last. 241 00:20:31,328 --> 00:20:33,228 I was not alone. 242 00:20:33,530 --> 00:20:38,297 But the transformation, or the collapse, still seemed far away. 243 00:20:38,568 --> 00:20:41,799 It would come one day. But not now. 244 00:20:42,238 --> 00:20:45,537 There was time. There was hope. 245 00:20:46,276 --> 00:20:49,712 Somewhere, there were people taking care of it all. 246 00:20:50,447 --> 00:20:53,983 And that's how it was for me, year after year. 247 00:20:53,983 --> 00:20:56,586 I lived the middle class American life. 248 00:20:56,586 --> 00:21:04,686 I lived the stories I had learned as a child and tried as best I could to ignore the rumblings of fear that haunted my depths. 249 00:21:06,196 --> 00:21:09,632 And then I started to work on this documentary. . . 250 00:21:10,433 --> 00:21:18,274 Three years later, having chewed our way through a mountain of books, articles, websites, magazines, newspapers, and documentaries, 251 00:21:18,274 --> 00:21:21,911 having attended lectures and meetings and salons and rallies, 252 00:21:21,911 --> 00:21:29,340 and having interviews with friends and neighbors, scientists and researchers and writers and activity and thinkers and feelers and more, 253 00:21:29,753 --> 00:21:36,559 and having talked and written and laughed and cried and worried and despaired and regained our power to plunge ahead again, 254 00:21:36,559 --> 00:21:38,117 one thing seems clear.: 255 00:21:38,728 --> 00:21:43,733 the global environmental, political and economic predicament we live in today is critical, 256 00:21:43,733 --> 00:21:47,404 the possible scenarios range into the highly disturbing, 257 00:21:47,404 --> 00:21:52,068 and the timeframe seems. . . well. . . imminent. 258 00:21:52,242 --> 00:21:55,879 It's as though we've awakened to find ourselves on a runaway train, 259 00:21:55,879 --> 00:22:00,884 hurtling wildly down the tracks, held in place by powerful cultural stories 260 00:22:00,884 --> 00:22:07,255 and fueled by our desperate consumption of the very heart, blood, bones and flesh of this planet. 261 00:22:07,824 --> 00:22:10,894 If we don't find some way to stop this train soon, 262 00:22:10,894 --> 00:22:13,260 we're going to reach the end of the line. 263 00:22:30,814 --> 00:22:35,485 So what do you see when you wake up on the train? I can tell you what I saw. 264 00:22:35,485 --> 00:22:43,358 I saw the ground beneath the pavement, the man behind the curtain, the monster under the bed, the real below the rails. 265 00:22:44,694 --> 00:22:51,701 The culture of Empire works every moment of every day to distract my attention, like a magician using sleight-of-hand. 266 00:22:51,701 --> 00:22:55,637 What happens when I look where the conjurer does not want me to look? 267 00:22:56,172 --> 00:22:57,662 I see the trick. 268 00:22:58,708 --> 00:23:01,575 I see the reality behind the illusion. 269 00:23:03,346 --> 00:23:08,306 I see, if I look long enough, that the Empire has no clothes. 270 00:23:11,120 --> 00:23:12,622 Ride with me a while. 271 00:23:12,622 --> 00:23:17,627 Look more closely at the train, and the tracks, and the terrain through which we're speeding. 272 00:23:17,627 --> 00:23:23,691 If we are to respond effectively, we'll need a clear understanding of the whole of the situation. 273 00:23:24,634 --> 00:23:27,937 For me, four aspects of our predicament stand out.: 274 00:23:27,937 --> 00:23:33,109 Peak oil, climate change, mass extinction and population overshoot. 275 00:23:33,109 --> 00:23:37,714 In the fall of 2005, Sally Erickson and I circled the country by train, 276 00:23:37,714 --> 00:23:41,673 meeting with people to talk about these issues, and many others. 277 00:23:42,886 --> 00:23:47,757 At some point you reach the place 278 00:23:47,757 --> 00:23:50,783 where you can't get it out any faster. 279 00:23:52,195 --> 00:23:56,733 So, when you get to that point you've reached the peak. Then we start downhill. 280 00:23:56,733 --> 00:24:02,228 And once we start downhill that's when economic collapse will occur. 281 00:24:03,072 --> 00:24:07,877 That's my friend Tom, talking about oll. Peak Oil. And Economic Collapse. 282 00:24:07,877 --> 00:24:15,409 At first I didn't get it. So I started reading. And on our trip I met with some people who knew more about the situation. 283 00:24:15,919 --> 00:24:20,924 Over the last 150 years we've created a society that runs on oil. 284 00:24:20,924 --> 00:24:23,626 And it's inevitable that we would have done so, 285 00:24:23,626 --> 00:24:26,896 because it's just such incredible inexpensive, 286 00:24:26,896 --> 00:24:29,228 convenient, energy-dense stuff. 287 00:24:29,532 --> 00:24:37,098 I spoke with Richard Heinberg, a core faculty member of New College of Callfornla and author of three books on Peak Oil. 288 00:24:37,574 --> 00:24:46,583 The problem, of course, is that oil is a non-renewable resource. So even when we first started using the stuff we knew that eventually we'd run out. 289 00:24:46,583 --> 00:24:51,543 I met with the journalist Paul Roberts, who wrote a book about oil depletion in 2004. 290 00:24:52,522 --> 00:24:54,891 At some point, since oil is a finite resource, 291 00:24:54,891 --> 00:24:57,594 you can't keep raising production. 292 00:24:57,594 --> 00:24:59,162 Usually this is about the halfway point. 293 00:24:59,162 --> 00:25:01,297 When you've depleted half of the resource 294 00:25:01,297 --> 00:25:03,967 it becomes harder and harder to raise production. Doesn't mean you run out. 295 00:25:03,967 --> 00:25:06,369 And a great deal of oil is still coming out of the ground. 296 00:25:06,369 --> 00:25:11,374 If we were to peak tomorrow we'd still have eighty-two and a half million barrels coming out of the ground every day. 297 00:25:11,374 --> 00:25:14,537 But it would be really hard to get eighty-three and a half million barrels. 298 00:25:14,978 --> 00:25:25,288 Gerald Cecil, a professor of Astrophysics at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, has been so taken by the oil situation that he's now writing a book about it. 299 00:25:25,288 --> 00:25:29,258 The rate with which oil has been coming out of the ground has stagnated. 300 00:25:29,258 --> 00:25:33,062 It's stagnated at eighty four million barrels of oil a day, 301 00:25:33,062 --> 00:25:39,535 which sounds like an incredible number. But that's what we use to power ourselves at today's rate of use. 302 00:25:39,535 --> 00:25:46,843 And as the world population continues to grow, and as prosperity presumably continues to grow and people power up in their energy use, 303 00:25:46,843 --> 00:25:51,514 we get to a situation where there isn't any excess capacity to keep that powering going. 304 00:25:51,514 --> 00:25:58,187 And at some point you end up with a flat supply and a growing demand and you have serious problems. 305 00:25:58,187 --> 00:26:00,314 And that's the nature of peak oil. 306 00:26:01,858 --> 00:26:06,818 Are we at or near the peak of oil extraction? There are many signs that we are. 307 00:26:07,997 --> 00:26:13,002 Discoveries of new oil peaked right around 1963, '64. 308 00:26:13,002 --> 00:26:15,004 That was a long time ago. 309 00:26:15,004 --> 00:26:19,275 So we're not talking about a couple years of bad luck in exploration. 310 00:26:19,275 --> 00:26:21,077 This is a long-established trend. 311 00:26:21,077 --> 00:26:30,850 We've been discovering less oil with every passing year, to the point now where we're extracting and using about four or five barrels of oil for everyone that we discover. 312 00:26:31,154 --> 00:26:39,357 Now the oil industry responded in a number of ways. But one of the things it did was begin developing some amazing new technologies to help it find more oil faster. 313 00:26:39,729 --> 00:26:46,157 And despite this huge investment in technology, and these great leaps forward, the rates of discovery are still declining. 314 00:26:46,569 --> 00:26:51,441 Country after country is reaching its own national all-time oil production peak 315 00:26:51,441 --> 00:26:52,942 and going into decline. 316 00:26:52,942 --> 00:27:01,250 The US was one of the first to do it back in 1970. And now something like 30 or 33 countries are past their peak. 317 00:27:01,250 --> 00:27:07,623 And so it's inevitable that within the very next few years we'll see the global peak in oil production. 318 00:27:07,623 --> 00:27:09,181 Nobody's ready for that. 319 00:27:10,059 --> 00:27:14,723 Not ready for what, exactly? What will the end of cheap oil mean for the world? 320 00:27:14,997 --> 00:27:17,625 I went to speak with the writer and activist Jerry Mander. 321 00:27:17,967 --> 00:27:24,463 I'd let myself believe that the real problems were decades away. Turns out they're probably right around the corner. 322 00:27:25,308 --> 00:27:27,503 All the structures that now exist - 323 00:27:28,211 --> 00:27:30,702 our urban formations, 324 00:27:31,547 --> 00:27:34,539 our transportation systems, 325 00:27:35,451 --> 00:27:37,282 our means of getting food, 326 00:27:37,954 --> 00:27:40,787 globalization as an economic model, 327 00:27:42,125 --> 00:27:44,116 capitalism as an economic model, 328 00:27:44,360 --> 00:27:48,820 which depends on constant expansion and growth and ever-more resources - 329 00:27:49,332 --> 00:27:53,302 cannot possibly continue to exist. 330 00:27:53,302 --> 00:28:02,335 Because they're all based on - the root base of all of it - is the existence of cheap energy. 331 00:28:02,779 --> 00:28:08,718 In order to avoid a deflationary depression we have to have continual growth in the money supply, 332 00:28:08,718 --> 00:28:13,723 which has to be based on continual growth in economic activity, 333 00:28:13,723 --> 00:28:19,662 which must be based on the continual growth in available energy and raw materials. 334 00:28:19,662 --> 00:28:27,034 We've built an economy based on the idea that It has to grow every year or else collapse. 335 00:28:27,570 --> 00:28:30,273 So, soon, the economy won't be able to grow. 336 00:28:30,273 --> 00:28:37,304 And all signs are that we may be facing a kind of global economic collapse because of peak oil. 337 00:28:38,548 --> 00:28:44,316 It seems that, if our economy is poised for meltdown, our agricultural system is doubly so. 338 00:28:44,787 --> 00:28:52,717 I spoke with local sustainable designer Harvey Harman and with writer Richard Manning about what he calls "the oil we eat". 339 00:28:52,962 --> 00:28:58,491 The average piece of food in your supermarket has traveled 3,000 miles or more to get there. 340 00:28:59,202 --> 00:29:04,140 So not only is it based on petroleum to grow it, 341 00:29:04,140 --> 00:29:07,076 but then it's transported, and refrigerated. 342 00:29:07,076 --> 00:29:08,744 And, you know, it's a system 343 00:29:08,744 --> 00:29:15,484 that's very dependent on cheap energy, and it's very energy-intensive. 344 00:29:15,484 --> 00:29:21,858 If we take a look at about 1940, and an American farmer, that farmer was using roughly 345 00:29:21,858 --> 00:29:27,125 a calorie of fossil fuel to make a calorie of food. 346 00:29:27,663 --> 00:29:29,899 Today that same farmer 347 00:29:29,899 --> 00:29:35,201 uses something like 10 calories of fossil fuel to make a calorie of food. 348 00:29:36,239 --> 00:29:42,645 That means that petrochemicals, fossil fuel, have become embedded in our food supply. 349 00:29:42,645 --> 00:29:48,811 if we run out of fossil fuel that strategy will collapse in a heartbeat. 350 00:29:49,518 --> 00:29:54,323 Sadly, with so much at stake, oil grows increasingly worth fighting for. 351 00:29:54,323 --> 00:29:56,587 My friend Ray said it best. 352 00:29:57,026 --> 00:29:59,262 Prices will naturally begin to rise 353 00:29:59,262 --> 00:30:01,364 and people will probably fight over it more. 354 00:30:01,364 --> 00:30:07,603 And the US will, almost certainly, with whatever means are necessary, make sure that we get everything we need. 355 00:30:07,603 --> 00:30:11,664 And so that will probably make for an unhappy rest of the planet. 356 00:30:13,109 --> 00:30:15,711 It's a permanent state of affairs. You know? 357 00:30:15,711 --> 00:30:19,977 The fuel crisis will be over in a couple of hundred million years. 358 00:30:20,316 --> 00:30:30,459 When everything has settled down and there's a lot more having been made from all of us having, you know, been squished back under. 359 00:30:30,459 --> 00:30:32,528 (laughs) 360 00:30:32,528 --> 00:30:34,257 It takes a long time. 361 00:30:36,265 --> 00:30:40,436 Peak oil got my attention. The ramifications are enormous. 362 00:30:40,436 --> 00:30:45,805 And if the oil situation is bleak, some say that the natural gas situation is even worse. 363 00:30:46,142 --> 00:30:48,633 As writer and professor Otis Graham said.: 364 00:30:48,944 --> 00:30:50,645 We've had three or four hundred years of 365 00:30:50,645 --> 00:30:53,082 fossil fuel - it's coming to an end. 366 00:30:53,082 --> 00:30:54,850 is that an historic turning point? 367 00:30:54,850 --> 00:30:56,317 it's breathtaking! 368 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,657 Even more breathtaking is what happens when we burn the stuff. 369 00:31:01,657 --> 00:31:07,595 Scientists used to talk about climate change in terms of centuries. Now they're talking about decades. 370 00:31:07,595 --> 00:31:12,969 Now they're talking about next year. Now they're talking about now. 371 00:31:12,969 --> 00:31:16,005 My friends and neighbors are talking about it too. 372 00:31:16,005 --> 00:31:19,308 We've increased the levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. 373 00:31:19,308 --> 00:31:24,880 Which traps heat in the earth's atmosphere. Which raises the temperature. 374 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,750 The glaciers are melting. The sea ice is melting. 375 00:31:27,750 --> 00:31:30,453 The polar ice caps are basically melting. 376 00:31:30,453 --> 00:31:36,692 And I hate it. I hate feeling like we've done this to nature. 377 00:31:36,692 --> 00:31:41,697 Not to mention all of the animals, all of the wildlife, that are going to die. 378 00:31:41,697 --> 00:31:44,166 it'll begin to happen. it's already beginning to happen. 379 00:31:44,166 --> 00:31:47,236 it's happening everywhere. You know. it's happening! 380 00:31:47,236 --> 00:31:48,497 it's terrifying. 381 00:31:49,071 --> 00:31:50,868 it's a drag. 382 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,475 That's putting it mildly. 383 00:31:53,475 --> 00:32:00,814 The only good thing I can think to say about climate change is that when I understood the climate situation, I spent less time worrying about oil. 384 00:32:01,617 --> 00:32:03,986 some people have said, and I think they're right about this, 385 00:32:03,986 --> 00:32:08,189 we're gonna run out of air to burn before we run out of fossil fuels to burn. 386 00:32:08,189 --> 00:32:13,595 in other words, the fossil fuels are creating the global warming problem, 387 00:32:13,595 --> 00:32:16,298 the CO2, and the pollution problems. 388 00:32:16,298 --> 00:32:20,301 And, if we keep using those, it's not really a matter of when we run out of fossil fuels. 389 00:32:20,301 --> 00:32:28,004 It's when we befoul the atmosphere so much, and create so much global warming, it's irrelevant how much gas we've got left. 390 00:32:28,744 --> 00:32:32,373 There. See what I mean? You feel better already, don't you? 391 00:32:33,382 --> 00:32:38,342 So, whom else could I speak with about the climate? Turns out I didn't have to go very far. 392 00:32:38,654 --> 00:32:45,628 William Schlesinger, Dean of the Nicholas School of the Environment and Earth Sciences at Duke University had this to say. 393 00:32:45,628 --> 00:32:49,632 We have raised, globally in our atmosphere, 394 00:32:49,632 --> 00:32:51,967 the concentration of carbon dioxide 395 00:32:51,967 --> 00:33:00,242 from about 280 parts-per-million in the late 1800's to close to 380 parts-per-million today. 396 00:33:00,242 --> 00:33:08,317 That's roughly a 30% increase. And the projection is that it will be 550, 560, in the year 2050. 397 00:33:08,317 --> 00:33:14,323 Schlesinger's colleague at Duke, Professor of Conservation Ecology Stuart Pimm, added this.: 398 00:33:14,323 --> 00:33:17,293 There is now a strong scientific consensus that 399 00:33:17,293 --> 00:33:19,728 that has caused warming over the last 400 00:33:19,728 --> 00:33:26,224 several decades, maybe centuries, and there's a strong expectation that it will continue to do so. 401 00:33:26,569 --> 00:33:33,642 So. . .greenhouse gases on the rise. Temperature on the rise. More floods. More droughts. Rising sea level. 402 00:33:33,642 --> 00:33:38,647 It's been in the news for some time now. How does this impact the community of life? 403 00:33:38,647 --> 00:33:48,557 Birds are arriving earlier in the springtime. Plants are flowering earlier. Species' ranges are moving northward. 404 00:33:48,557 --> 00:33:55,831 We are seeing an extraordinary, strong signal, biological signal, 405 00:33:55,831 --> 00:33:58,267 of what global warming is doing for us. 406 00:33:58,267 --> 00:34:02,238 Crops and trees will grow in places they don't grow today. 407 00:34:02,238 --> 00:34:06,075 We have a lot of suspicion that they may not grow as well. 408 00:34:06,075 --> 00:34:14,915 And we're beginning to see extinctions of species that have literally no place else to go as the climate gets warmer. 409 00:34:15,284 --> 00:34:18,420 There's one impact I found particularly sobering. 410 00:34:18,420 --> 00:34:22,690 The carbon in the atmosphere. The carbon in the atmosphere goes into the ocean, 411 00:34:22,690 --> 00:34:25,460 it gets absorbed in the ocean as, I want to say, carbonic acid. . . 412 00:34:25,460 --> 00:34:27,263 Changes in the atmosphere, for example, 413 00:34:27,263 --> 00:34:30,299 of carbon dioxide can be buffered by absorption 414 00:34:30,299 --> 00:34:32,434 of the carbon dioxide into the oceans. 415 00:34:32,434 --> 00:34:40,476 That as you do that, you do change the acidity of the oceans. And we are finding that there's a measurable change in the acidity of the oceans. 416 00:34:40,476 --> 00:34:48,645 And that is making it harder for the plankton to form their shells. And if there's a plankton die- off. . . that's the bottom of the food chain. 417 00:34:49,784 --> 00:34:56,525 Plankton, as well as corals, are threatened not only by rising acidity, but by rising temperatures. 418 00:34:56,525 --> 00:35:00,963 Phytoplankton levels have declined by as much as a third in some northern oceans. 419 00:35:00,963 --> 00:35:06,569 And this has resulted in significant impacts to fish and krill and bird populations. 420 00:35:06,569 --> 00:35:11,574 But the reported dangers go far beyond a breaking of food chains, which is bad enough. 421 00:35:11,574 --> 00:35:16,011 Phytoplanktons produce half of the oxygen we breathe. Half. 422 00:35:16,979 --> 00:35:19,072 And they are a major carbon sink. 423 00:35:19,481 --> 00:35:25,181 When plankton dies, more carbon remains in the air. Which means more warming. 424 00:35:26,522 --> 00:35:31,160 On top of this, new evidence shows that climate can shift very rapidly. 425 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:37,827 Slow changes can build. . . to a tipping point. . .and the system can then shift abruptly to a new state. 426 00:35:38,634 --> 00:35:47,576 this is happening in the oceans, where a global current known as the grand conveyor belt is now being impacted, with possibly disastrous results. 427 00:35:47,576 --> 00:35:56,118 As Douglas Crawford-Brown, Director of the Carolina Environmental Program at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill told me.: 428 00:35:56,118 --> 00:36:01,690 The amount of carbon dioxide that we're putting out into the atmosphere is rising to a point now 429 00:36:01,690 --> 00:36:06,462 where most scientists would agree that we may be at a sort of tipping point. 430 00:36:06,462 --> 00:36:13,302 We may be at a point where we're going to start to get so much carbon dioxide into the atmosphere that feedback mechanisms 431 00:36:13,302 --> 00:36:18,307 that control the temperature of the earth will start to be stretched a little bit too far. 432 00:36:18,307 --> 00:36:25,447 The classic one is you get too much melting of ice, it flows into the ocean, and you shut off the conveyor belt. 433 00:36:25,447 --> 00:36:30,219 And if that happens, this will cause dramatic changes in the climate in England. 434 00:36:30,219 --> 00:36:37,426 I mean, England would literally become Norway or Sweden, if you look at them on the globe, if the conveyor belt were to be slowed down. 435 00:36:37,426 --> 00:36:40,327 And we're starting to see changes of those magnitudes. 436 00:36:41,163 --> 00:36:45,200 this is why I tend to use the term climate change, rather than global warming. 437 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:54,131 A warming planet can have heating and drought in some areas, and freezing in others, such as Europe and North America would experience if the Gulf Steam shut down. 438 00:36:54,777 --> 00:36:56,938 The impact of that would be huge. 439 00:36:57,379 --> 00:37:05,788 those portions, much of which supply the agricultural bounty for Europe and the US, 440 00:37:05,788 --> 00:37:10,748 would have dramatic changes in climate, particularly affecting agriculture. 441 00:37:11,894 --> 00:37:18,561 There are a number of self-reinforcing feedback loops now in operation. Here are two such processes. 442 00:37:19,168 --> 00:37:27,303 You know the polar ice melting, which is opening huge areas of sea in the polar regions. 443 00:37:28,644 --> 00:37:32,444 Without that ice, which normally reflects sunlight, 444 00:37:33,515 --> 00:37:40,148 that polar sea is now going to be absorbing a lot more sunlight and, therefore, heat. 445 00:37:40,789 --> 00:37:47,196 We have a lot of carbon stored in the permafrost. And those permafrosts are starting to defrost. 446 00:37:47,196 --> 00:37:50,899 And when they defrost that carbon dioxide - that carbon - is going to be oxidized 447 00:37:50,899 --> 00:37:54,069 to carbon dioxide, or brought out as methane and so on. 448 00:37:54,069 --> 00:37:57,673 And that will be a dramatic increase in greenhouse gases. 449 00:37:57,673 --> 00:38:05,045 This may get out of hand and we'll suddenly be looking at a very rapid warming of the planet. 450 00:38:05,514 --> 00:38:07,414 This may get out of hand. 451 00:38:07,716 --> 00:38:13,422 given that there seems to be a consensus that we need to reduce carbon emissions by 70 percent or more, 452 00:38:13,422 --> 00:38:17,426 and given that we live in a world where economies must grow or die, 453 00:38:17,426 --> 00:38:21,296 and given that our carbon emissions grow along with our economies, 454 00:38:21,296 --> 00:38:26,301 and given that many countries are working feverishly to emulate the American way of life, 455 00:38:26,301 --> 00:38:30,005 it's difficult to see a way to STOP it from getting out of hand. 456 00:38:30,005 --> 00:38:35,841 I've yet to see a proposed solution that even comes close to realistically addressing the situation. 457 00:38:37,045 --> 00:38:39,741 Talk about a snowball's chance in hell. 458 00:38:40,315 --> 00:38:44,520 I used to take this martial arts class. And a lot of these guys, it was kind of a kung-fu thing, 459 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,989 a lot of the guys in class would be saying, 'well, what if i meet a guy that's really good 460 00:38:46,989 --> 00:38:49,892 in tae-kwon-do?', or "what if i meet a really good boxer?" 461 00:38:49,892 --> 00:38:52,494 And the teacher would say, "well, you're going to get your butt kicked". You know? 462 00:38:52,494 --> 00:38:58,033 You say, "what if we run into a tipping point where we have this kind of accelerated scenario of climate change?" 463 00:38:58,033 --> 00:38:59,301 We're going to get our butts kicked. 464 00:38:59,301 --> 00:39:05,941 It's very possible that global climate change is out of our control at this point no matter what we do. 465 00:39:05,941 --> 00:39:11,380 Whether we implement Kyoto, or Kyoto on steroids, or whatever it is. 466 00:39:11,380 --> 00:39:18,320 I don't know how it will be manageable. If they can't manage the fallout from the New Orleans catastrophe 467 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:23,622 what's going to happen when they try to manage a society-wide catastrophic situation? 468 00:39:24,927 --> 00:39:31,266 We can take a lot of punches. Nature takes punches pretty readily. 469 00:39:31,266 --> 00:39:34,292 Global warming is a really severe punch. 470 00:39:35,270 --> 00:39:41,510 And all that we depend on for natural systems and agricultural systems 471 00:39:41,510 --> 00:39:43,774 is about to be wiped out pretty drastically. 472 00:39:45,314 --> 00:39:51,487 About to be? What is he saying? Do we dare speak of such disasters as inevitable? 473 00:39:51,487 --> 00:39:55,123 If we speak of inevitability, will that overwhelm people? 474 00:39:55,123 --> 00:39:58,460 Will they slide into apathy and diversion? 475 00:39:58,460 --> 00:40:01,396 Isn't that where people already are? 476 00:40:01,396 --> 00:40:04,900 I don't feel like I can afford to look at anything less than the truth. 477 00:40:04,900 --> 00:40:08,570 And then I must ask.: what are we made of? 478 00:40:08,570 --> 00:40:11,471 Who will we be in the face of such truths? 479 00:40:11,874 --> 00:40:15,537 If we don't look at these things, one thing seems certain. 480 00:40:15,944 --> 00:40:23,719 Generations to come are not going to be very happy with us for refusing to get serious 481 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,745 about these hugely important issues. 482 00:40:28,423 --> 00:40:35,664 What really gets me is it's not just our human descendents. Millions of species and more are now threatened by our behavior. 483 00:40:35,664 --> 00:40:40,569 And for many of them, there will be no "generations to come". 484 00:40:40,569 --> 00:40:45,741 We're killing off all the life forms that give us life. 485 00:40:45,741 --> 00:40:49,978 We have black holes in the ocean. There are no fish in places in the ocean. 486 00:40:49,978 --> 00:40:54,677 What's happened to the fish? What's happened? 487 00:40:55,250 --> 00:41:01,246 That's my friend Barbara, who spent her life as a teacher and activist, working for the life of this planet. 488 00:41:01,723 --> 00:41:07,992 The thing is, we know what's happened. My son Jack knows. He's known since he was a kid. 489 00:41:08,363 --> 00:41:12,568 I mean, everyone knows the problems - the deforestation, the pollution of rivers, the garbage, overpopulation. 490 00:41:12,568 --> 00:41:19,308 All of these things the planet isn't built for us to do that. 491 00:41:19,308 --> 00:41:22,044 It's not built in such a way that it can take that. 492 00:41:22,044 --> 00:41:27,607 I mean, we have to live on the planet, so if we're going to destroy where we're living then that's going to be a problem. 493 00:41:30,352 --> 00:41:36,985 Hmm. Destroy where you're living. A problem? What are the analysts and scientists saying? 494 00:41:39,061 --> 00:41:42,297 Geologists mark geological time by catastrophe. 495 00:41:42,297 --> 00:41:46,768 When did the comet hit and wipe out all those species? When did the fossil record change? 496 00:41:46,768 --> 00:41:53,909 so what was there yesterday was not there the next day? And we're in one of those periods right now. But it's human-caused. 497 00:41:53,909 --> 00:41:59,779 And we're seeing an order of extinctions now that ranks with the great catastrophes on the planet. 498 00:41:59,915 --> 00:42:09,187 Currently we are driving species to extinction probably a thousand times faster than they should be. 499 00:42:09,458 --> 00:42:14,794 We will lose somewhere between a quarter, maybe as many as a half, 500 00:42:15,263 --> 00:42:19,468 of all the species on earth within the next century. 501 00:42:19,468 --> 00:42:22,801 I think what he's saying is.: that would be bad. 502 00:42:23,305 --> 00:42:26,241 When I spoke with Daniel Quinn, he seemed to agree. 503 00:42:26,241 --> 00:42:34,916 if this goes on, and on and on and on, there's going to come a point 504 00:42:34,916 --> 00:42:37,111 when the system is going to collapse. 505 00:42:38,220 --> 00:42:45,888 What is it that's going on and on? Nothing less than the people of Empire devouring the world. As my friend Kevin put it.: 506 00:42:48,263 --> 00:42:50,766 Humans are taking over the whole planet. 507 00:42:50,766 --> 00:42:53,168 And everything else is being crowded out. 508 00:42:53,168 --> 00:43:02,844 Crowded out. Felled and milled. Caught, cleaned and canned. The numbers show that the culture of civilization is eating itself out of house and home. 509 00:43:02,844 --> 00:43:08,717 On land, we consume forty percent of what's known as the primary productivity of the planet. 510 00:43:08,717 --> 00:43:15,290 If you look at how much green "stuff" the planet produces every year, 511 00:43:15,290 --> 00:43:17,693 we use about two-fifths of that. 512 00:43:17,693 --> 00:43:24,933 We consume it, our domestic animals consume it, and we use wood, and fibers like cotton. 513 00:43:24,933 --> 00:43:30,839 I drive through the country and see it. Forests are now fields and parking lots and box stores. 514 00:43:30,839 --> 00:43:37,938 We grow crops and livestock and billboards and cell phone towers, bulldozing and bush- hogging our way around the globe. 515 00:43:38,714 --> 00:43:46,985 And it's the destruction of the places where species live that's the principal cause of species becoming extinct. 516 00:43:48,824 --> 00:43:51,359 It's the same story in the oceans. 517 00:43:51,359 --> 00:44:02,904 Many people think that the oceans are vast and untouched. And in actual fact we take about a third of the production from the oceans, too. 518 00:44:02,904 --> 00:44:07,008 Our fish stocks, all over the coast of the United States and certainly around the world, 519 00:44:07,008 --> 00:44:10,412 are getting perilously close to collapsing. 520 00:44:10,412 --> 00:44:19,254 Most of the desirable, large, predatory fish - snapper, swordfish, and the like - have been reduced 521 00:44:19,254 --> 00:44:23,020 down to ten percent of their previous population. 522 00:44:23,592 --> 00:44:28,962 Down to ten percent? Maybe that's why we're now eating tilapia instead of cod. 523 00:44:29,598 --> 00:44:31,964 The cod is almost gone. 524 00:44:33,068 --> 00:44:37,300 And with your tilapia may I suggest a big tall glass of drinkable water? 525 00:44:37,572 --> 00:44:44,679 When it comes to fresh water we probably take about half of the available fresh water. 526 00:44:44,679 --> 00:44:50,519 Part of the way we've fed the planet over the last thirty years, as we've doubled population, is to use a whole lot of water. 527 00:44:50,519 --> 00:44:54,489 Our agriculture's now the leading user of water in the world. 528 00:44:54,489 --> 00:44:56,091 And in this nation as well. 529 00:44:56,091 --> 00:45:04,633 Our watersheds in the United States have been so highly developed that even small changes in the amount of water that falls 530 00:45:04,633 --> 00:45:10,071 are beginning to cause large implications for society's availability of water. 531 00:45:11,106 --> 00:45:16,011 Multiplying the impact of consumption and habitat destruction is the fact that, 532 00:45:16,011 --> 00:45:20,248 with fuels, with pesticides and herbicides and industrial chemicals, 533 00:45:20,248 --> 00:45:22,851 with noise and with electromagnetic waves 534 00:45:22,851 --> 00:45:26,855 and with human activity and with structures of control and domination, 535 00:45:26,855 --> 00:45:32,694 Empire is literally and metaphorically poisoning every square inch of the planet. 536 00:45:32,694 --> 00:45:36,998 Yes, life will recover from what we are doing to the planet. 537 00:45:36,998 --> 00:45:38,400 But don't hold your breath. 538 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,335 It's going to take millions of years. 539 00:45:40,335 --> 00:45:45,540 It's going to take an incredible number of human generations. 540 00:45:45,540 --> 00:45:50,879 Trillions of people will live in a biologically impoverished world 541 00:45:50,879 --> 00:45:56,078 if we don't stop our human impacts now. 542 00:45:57,552 --> 00:46:00,822 I spoke with Daniel Quinn about this mass extinction. 543 00:46:00,822 --> 00:46:03,518 He gave me a metaphor that has haunted me since. 544 00:46:04,759 --> 00:46:10,823 We are like people who live in a very tall building. . . brick building. We live on the top floor. 545 00:46:11,399 --> 00:46:21,775 And every day we go out, go down to the lower floors and at random we knock bricks out, take them upstairs to the top, and build higher. 546 00:46:23,578 --> 00:46:28,709 Every day. Downstairs, 200 bricks. Take them upstairs. 547 00:46:30,018 --> 00:46:36,992 And the building is perfectly stable. But it's not going to be stable forever. 548 00:46:36,992 --> 00:46:42,464 Because we are attacking the structural integrity of the building. 549 00:46:42,464 --> 00:46:46,601 Two hundred species a day, day after day after day, year after year. . . 550 00:46:46,601 --> 00:46:49,069 And as our population increases 551 00:46:50,305 --> 00:46:55,043 it's going to turn into 400 species a day, a thousand species a day. 552 00:46:55,043 --> 00:46:59,343 And there's going to come a day when the system is going to collapse. 553 00:46:59,814 --> 00:47:02,374 Two hundred species a day!? 554 00:47:04,152 --> 00:47:06,950 This is calamitous. 555 00:47:07,689 --> 00:47:14,496 We may already be well above 200 bricks each day. And it looks to me like the building is not far from collapse. 556 00:47:14,496 --> 00:47:19,593 Everything in me wants to run out of the building before it comes crashing down around my ears. 557 00:47:19,968 --> 00:47:23,571 But where would I run? Empire now covers the planet. 558 00:47:23,571 --> 00:47:28,304 The building is everywhere. And almost all of us are inside of it. 559 00:47:28,810 --> 00:47:29,902 All of us. 560 00:47:30,478 --> 00:47:33,106 All six and a half billion of us. 561 00:47:34,082 --> 00:47:38,086 One of the hardest things to talk about is the human population explosion. 562 00:47:38,086 --> 00:47:45,583 The friends and neighbors I spoke with all seemed to agree that the enormous increase in human population would soon have to be reckoned with. 563 00:47:45,860 --> 00:47:48,196 We're approaching full tilt, I think, 564 00:47:48,196 --> 00:47:54,226 in terms of what the planet can sustain. 565 00:47:54,869 --> 00:48:00,308 Any species that has outgrown its environment 566 00:48:00,308 --> 00:48:02,544 is pressed for resources. 567 00:48:02,544 --> 00:48:04,346 is it just all going to end, 568 00:48:04,346 --> 00:48:06,414 and is that going to be the solution? 569 00:48:06,414 --> 00:48:10,285 You know, are we gonna become extinct 570 00:48:10,285 --> 00:48:11,653 like the dinosaurs? 571 00:48:11,653 --> 00:48:18,217 Equilibrium will be re-achieved. 572 00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:22,597 Unfortunately, nature is a harsh taskmaster. 573 00:48:22,597 --> 00:48:24,299 Because we're so intelligent, 574 00:48:24,299 --> 00:48:27,369 because we're such a different class of animal, 575 00:48:27,369 --> 00:48:35,477 with such a big brain, we have the ability to understand and foresee and prepare and stuff for these things, 576 00:48:35,477 --> 00:48:37,206 doesn't mean we will. 577 00:48:37,846 --> 00:48:40,982 How will we face into the issue of human population? 578 00:48:40,982 --> 00:48:47,522 I went to speak with William Catton, a professor of Sociology & Human Ecology at Washington State University, 579 00:48:47,522 --> 00:48:53,290 now retired, and author of an amazing book on ecology and human population called Overshoot. 580 00:48:53,728 --> 00:48:57,459 According to Catton's assessment of the carrying capacity of the planet.: 581 00:48:57,832 --> 00:49:00,402 I think the way we're living now, 582 00:49:00,402 --> 00:49:03,705 the world was overpopulated already 583 00:49:03,705 --> 00:49:05,536 by the time of our civil war. 584 00:49:06,474 --> 00:49:10,712 The population at the time of the US Civil War was just over one billion. 585 00:49:10,712 --> 00:49:15,672 So we've now overshot that number by more than 5 billion. As Catton told me.: 586 00:49:16,484 --> 00:49:20,388 It is possible to exceed carrying capacity. But only temporarily. 587 00:49:20,388 --> 00:49:26,020 if you exceed carrying capacity you then damage the environment upon which you're depending. 588 00:49:26,461 --> 00:49:33,367 Looking closely, I've come to see that population numbers for humans, in and of themselves, are only part of the story. 589 00:49:33,902 --> 00:49:37,839 As Catton points out, it's the damage those numbers do that counts. 590 00:49:37,839 --> 00:49:41,331 And that damage is intimately connected to our way of life. 591 00:49:41,843 --> 00:49:45,914 The Earth supports as great a collective mass of ants as it does people. 592 00:49:45,914 --> 00:49:52,787 It can do so because ants aren't building 6000-square-foot homes, driving two hours to their jobs, 593 00:49:52,787 --> 00:49:57,747 buying plasma TV sets, and killing each other with depleted uranium munitions. 594 00:49:58,393 --> 00:50:03,731 We in the developed world have 32 times the footprint on the planet, 595 00:50:03,731 --> 00:50:07,792 on resources... depletion... 32 times a person in india. 596 00:50:10,705 --> 00:50:13,606 I think we all know that though the figure is stunning. 597 00:50:13,942 --> 00:50:19,903 And it ought to make us really think, and start to talk with each other about this. 598 00:50:20,548 --> 00:50:25,508 You talk about how many "energy slaves", per capita, do we have? 599 00:50:27,088 --> 00:50:29,991 In this country we've got something like 70 times 600 00:50:29,991 --> 00:50:34,996 as many energy slaves per capita as people in Bangladesh. 601 00:50:34,996 --> 00:50:39,067 instead of thinking of Bangladesh as the overpopulated country, 602 00:50:39,067 --> 00:50:41,503 if you multiply each of us by seventy 603 00:50:41,503 --> 00:50:47,242 - take that 290 million, or whatever number of us there are now, multiple it be seventy - wow. 604 00:50:47,242 --> 00:50:49,938 We are an overpopulated country. 605 00:50:50,245 --> 00:50:58,050 In those terms, the US is a nation of 21 billion people. And my own three children add 210 to that number. 606 00:50:58,386 --> 00:51:03,691 To speak of population, then, as the root cause of our problem makes little sense to me. 607 00:51:03,691 --> 00:51:13,657 It conjures images of crowded third-world cities and teeming masses of human flesh, while the global impacts of rich first-world lifestyles go unexamined. 608 00:51:15,970 --> 00:51:21,306 Big feet. More and more feet. And more and more feet getting bigger and bigger. 609 00:51:21,709 --> 00:51:26,908 And if these feet just keep on walking, one of these days they're gonna walk right into oblivion. 610 00:51:28,416 --> 00:51:31,351 It cannot be sustained for much longer. 611 00:51:33,755 --> 00:51:37,158 There are any number of catastrophic forces that could lower our numbers, 612 00:51:37,158 --> 00:51:41,424 as oil depletion, climate change and environmental collapses play out. 613 00:51:41,863 --> 00:51:45,799 One thing large populations are especially prone to is disease. 614 00:51:46,668 --> 00:51:51,628 Microbes are gonna have a lot more to do with it than humans have to do with it in the end. 615 00:51:52,407 --> 00:51:57,071 Nature - we're still governed by natural rules, we like to think we're not, but we are - 616 00:51:57,512 --> 00:52:02,074 when you put together the kind of biomass that humans represent on this planet, 617 00:52:02,951 --> 00:52:05,818 we're an asset to somebody. We're a resource. 618 00:52:07,288 --> 00:52:11,725 But it may be possible to meet the situation with consciousness and intention. 619 00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:16,590 Once we get to the peak human population, wherever that is - 620 00:52:16,864 --> 00:52:22,564 I hope it is 8 1/2 billion rather than 12 billion but it's gonna be high - 621 00:52:22,904 --> 00:52:26,774 whenever we get there, what - do we have a vision of what we should do? 622 00:52:26,774 --> 00:52:31,246 I mean, we got to the peak, and there's trouble all around us! 623 00:52:31,246 --> 00:52:33,077 What should we do? 624 00:52:33,648 --> 00:52:43,683 Somehow we've got to devise a way for obtaining a soft landing as we reduce the population from six-plus billion down toward one billion. 625 00:52:43,992 --> 00:52:48,763 If we decide we want to reduce it we can see to it that the reduction occurs 626 00:52:48,763 --> 00:52:54,998 in a more humane way than it will occur if we just try to keep on business as usual. 627 00:52:55,470 --> 00:53:03,036 Humanity has never been in this. This is new. This is new. And this is big. And this is not being talked about. 628 00:53:03,578 --> 00:53:09,574 And because it is not being talked about, we have no clear idea how we might device that softer landing. 629 00:53:10,018 --> 00:53:14,478 Talking about it, then, clearly and honestly, is the first step. 630 00:53:14,989 --> 00:53:19,050 Without that, catastrophe is inevitable. But either way, 631 00:53:19,460 --> 00:53:22,554 Our global population is going to be reduced. 632 00:53:24,365 --> 00:53:29,928 this is what I had to face.: the population of my species is going to be reduced. 633 00:53:30,004 --> 00:53:35,610 I had to face it just like the grizzly bears have had to face it, and the wild salmon have had to face it, 634 00:53:35,610 --> 00:53:40,348 just like the right whales and the piping plovers and the mountain gorillas have had to face it, 635 00:53:40,348 --> 00:53:46,912 just like the great auks and the golden toads and the blackfin cisco had to face it before they went extinct. 636 00:53:47,422 --> 00:53:51,722 And I had to face something else.: I have a choice about how I meet it. 637 00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,529 My friend Lyle gave it some perspective. 638 00:53:54,529 --> 00:54:01,569 The fact is that there have been die-offs of civilizations. There have been collapses of great, mighty civilizations. 639 00:54:01,569 --> 00:54:06,802 Sophisticated, powerful, unbelievable civilizations have collapsed. 640 00:54:07,008 --> 00:54:10,239 And it's a choice. 641 00:54:10,978 --> 00:54:18,453 it's a choice that we can decide to succeed or fail. And i'm going to go ahead and decide to succeed, thank you 642 00:54:18,453 --> 00:54:21,217 And i'd really like it if you'd come with me. 643 00:54:23,424 --> 00:54:28,384 What choices do we now have? What would that success Lyle speaks of look like? 644 00:54:28,963 --> 00:54:34,924 What is inevitable at this point? And what remains to be created, if only we awaken to our power? 645 00:54:36,270 --> 00:54:41,230 Most importantly, why have we not already awakened? 646 00:54:42,610 --> 00:54:48,883 And you know something? The more you talk about your problems the easier they are to solve. 647 00:54:48,883 --> 00:54:52,720 This bottling things up inside is bad! 648 00:54:52,720 --> 00:54:56,087 We can't survive apart from the earth. 649 00:54:56,691 --> 00:54:58,818 And so. . . we're killing it! 650 00:54:59,427 --> 00:55:08,236 i think part of looking at things exactly the way they are is feeling how isolated 651 00:55:08,236 --> 00:55:13,341 and alienated we have become from ourselves, 652 00:55:13,341 --> 00:55:16,878 from the people around us, and from the natural world. 653 00:55:16,878 --> 00:55:25,479 And when you look at that, and experience that, the natural response is deep grief. 654 00:55:26,254 --> 00:55:29,052 Deep grief at the loss of connection. 655 00:55:39,467 --> 00:55:42,231 There are other issues we could have looked at. 656 00:55:45,072 --> 00:55:47,700 How do we face into all of this information? 657 00:55:48,543 --> 00:55:52,673 It looks as though our very survival as a species is now in question. 658 00:55:54,315 --> 00:55:59,878 As I gaze unflinchingly at the world situation, the information goes right into my body. 659 00:56:00,221 --> 00:56:01,916 I feel shaken to the core. 660 00:56:02,457 --> 00:56:04,118 I feel like running away. 661 00:56:04,559 --> 00:56:08,120 I feel, at times, like I've been hit head on. 662 00:56:09,063 --> 00:56:10,963 I know I'm not alone. 663 00:56:11,399 --> 00:56:15,733 I wish I had some magic potion. I wish I had some easy fix. 664 00:56:16,103 --> 00:56:19,334 I wish I could just tell you that everything is going to be OK. 665 00:56:20,274 --> 00:56:22,743 But of course I can't tell you that. 666 00:56:22,743 --> 00:56:26,770 And probably, deep down, you already know that. 667 00:56:28,382 --> 00:56:30,680 What chance do I really have, doctor? 668 00:56:32,086 --> 00:56:37,758 Mr. Marshall, I have no desire to mislead you. 669 00:56:37,758 --> 00:56:41,489 I'm sure you realize that recovery is not a sure thing. 670 00:56:43,798 --> 00:56:48,803 Thirty-six years after the first Earth Day, forty-four years after Silent Spring, 671 00:56:48,803 --> 00:56:53,604 the planet is closer now to ecological meltdown than it has ever been. 672 00:56:54,942 --> 00:57:01,782 If what we want is to stop the destruction of the life of this planet, then what we have been doing has not been working. 673 00:57:01,782 --> 00:57:04,182 We will have to do something else. 674 00:57:05,853 --> 00:57:08,879 When we stay focused on the question, "what do we do?" 675 00:57:10,091 --> 00:57:15,586 we don't ask the more basic questions about "how did we get here?" 676 00:57:17,765 --> 00:57:28,075 And if we don't ask those questions i don't think we've got much chance of effecting 677 00:57:28,075 --> 00:57:33,035 the kind of radical change that we're going to have to effect if we're going to make it. 678 00:57:33,347 --> 00:57:38,046 Well, i appreciate your being so frank with me, Dr Swenson. 679 00:57:39,353 --> 00:57:42,447 I guess I don't have to tell you how i feel. 680 00:57:43,591 --> 00:57:48,462 From my experience, talking about how we feel is exactly what we need to be doing. 681 00:57:48,462 --> 00:57:51,363 And we'll also need to question some assumptions. 682 00:57:52,066 --> 00:57:58,472 One assumption I question is the one that tells us that, since scientists can help us understand the situation, 683 00:57:58,472 --> 00:58:02,135 they are automatically equipped to tell us how to "solve" it. 684 00:58:02,677 --> 00:58:07,637 But there are forces at work in the world that cannot be understood through a microscope. 685 00:58:09,450 --> 00:58:15,150 What are the forces that brought us to this point? And what are the forces that keep us stuck here? 686 00:58:16,090 --> 00:58:19,582 I went to speak with the people who are trying to answer these questions. 687 00:58:21,162 --> 00:58:27,226 I realized that I would have to step outside of the culture, so that I could see it from a new perspective. 688 00:58:28,302 --> 00:58:35,042 Deep inside the tangle of problems that threatens the entire world there rages a boundless blaze of cultural fire, 689 00:58:35,042 --> 00:58:38,910 the locomotive power for the cultural train we're all now riding.: 690 00:58:39,580 --> 00:58:44,950 an engine not of steam or diesel, but of story, and myth, habit and belief. 691 00:58:45,319 --> 00:58:47,412 An engine racing out of control. 692 00:58:47,922 --> 00:58:51,085 It's time to look more closely at the culture of Empire. 693 00:58:51,492 --> 00:58:53,585 So, how did we get into this mess? 694 00:58:54,061 --> 00:58:57,997 wow. That's a cosmic question. 695 00:58:58,499 --> 00:59:07,897 Many analysts think it started about ten thousand years ago when humans began to engage in a new and fundamentally unsustainable style of food production. 696 00:59:08,342 --> 00:59:12,278 What we invented was something that I call totalitarian agriculture, 697 00:59:12,546 --> 00:59:19,787 which is predicated on the notion that it all belongs to us. 698 00:59:19,787 --> 00:59:24,792 We can kill off anything we don't want on the land, put a fence around the land. 699 00:59:24,792 --> 00:59:29,497 We can grow the food we want on the land and Nobody else can touch it. 700 00:59:29,497 --> 00:59:35,834 That slippery slope that we're on right now. . . we started walking on that ten thousand years ago. 701 00:59:37,471 --> 00:59:44,111 And it is because of an inherent problem in "agriculture". "Agriculture" really depends on disturbance. 702 00:59:44,111 --> 00:59:49,116 There's no way you can do "agriculture" without doing that catastrophic damage. 703 00:59:49,116 --> 00:59:53,246 So it makes "agriculture" fundamentally unsustainable. 704 00:59:54,288 --> 00:59:58,392 The surplus from this new way of getting food had immediate effects. 705 00:59:58,392 --> 01:00:04,098 It has fueled this tremendous population growth of ours. 706 01:00:04,098 --> 01:00:07,966 Our growing population is always catching up with our food production. 707 01:00:08,803 --> 01:00:11,567 We have a food race on our hands. 708 01:00:11,806 --> 01:00:17,144 We grow more food and the population increases. So we grow more food. 709 01:00:17,144 --> 01:00:19,547 It's a race that can't be won. 710 01:00:19,547 --> 01:00:27,154 On top of that, totalitarian agriculture also consigned its practitioners to a life of hard work and poor health. 711 01:00:27,154 --> 01:00:33,527 As a species, we had food before us for all of our history, which is two hundred. . . three hundred thousand years. 712 01:00:33,527 --> 01:00:38,487 When you look at ten thousand years it's relatively minor in that space. 713 01:00:38,999 --> 01:00:40,668 But we were hunter-gatherers. 714 01:00:40,668 --> 01:00:46,300 So nature grew our food in its way. As opposed to our way, which is "agriculture". 715 01:00:47,508 --> 01:00:49,840 We didn't grow food. Food grew. 716 01:00:51,345 --> 01:00:55,281 it's hard for people to accept the fact that 717 01:00:57,918 --> 01:01:05,326 the more you base your society on agriculture, the harder you work. 718 01:01:05,326 --> 01:01:09,230 if we look at archaeological sites around the world - and people have done this - 719 01:01:09,230 --> 01:01:11,665 in all the locations - this is not a cultural issue - 720 01:01:11,665 --> 01:01:17,404 in all the locations where agriculture began, in Asia, the Mid-East, South America, and Central America, 721 01:01:17,404 --> 01:01:20,207 we will find people who are stunted, short, 722 01:01:20,207 --> 01:01:24,345 their teeth are invariable gone because of the carbohydrates they're eating turn into sugars 723 01:01:24,345 --> 01:01:25,946 and rot their teeth out, 724 01:01:25,946 --> 01:01:32,351 they're misshapen, they're asymmetrical, they show every evidence of suffering all sorts of disease. 725 01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:40,895 this new type of agriculture both required and allowed more settlement, and with that came the beginnings of wealth and inequality. 726 01:01:40,895 --> 01:01:47,868 if you go to pre-agricultural towns you'll see a series of houses, all about the same size. 727 01:01:47,868 --> 01:01:56,076 And almost instantly, when agriculture occurred, you can go to any town, in any agricultural site in the world, not just in Western culture, 728 01:01:56,076 --> 01:02:01,749 and see a few very large houses with granaries connected to them, and a whole series of smaller houses. 729 01:02:01,749 --> 01:02:06,709 That kind of social inequity began almost immediately with agriculture. 730 01:02:07,888 --> 01:02:15,090 As Quinn and Manning point out, early agricultural peoples were not better off than their hunter-gatherer predecessors. 731 01:02:15,329 --> 01:02:16,990 this was news to me. 732 01:02:17,264 --> 01:02:23,760 The psychologist and cultural analyst Chellis Glendinning points to other consequences of settlement and agriculture. 733 01:02:24,205 --> 01:02:28,869 Before, when women were moving around, and very athletic, and carrying their babies, 734 01:02:29,977 --> 01:02:34,114 and having a diet that wasn't so high in carbohydrates, 735 01:02:34,114 --> 01:02:37,084 and nursing their babies for long periods of time, 736 01:02:37,084 --> 01:02:39,687 then women didn't ovulate very often. 737 01:02:39,687 --> 01:02:44,692 But when women became sedentary, women began to have regular cycles. 738 01:02:44,692 --> 01:02:47,561 And so, more babies were born. And so guess what? 739 01:02:47,561 --> 01:02:52,794 Then you have to make more farms. And then you have to expand the area that's fenced off. 740 01:02:53,434 --> 01:02:57,972 And then, ooh, maybe you're going to meet up with someone else who's coming that way, another group. 741 01:02:57,972 --> 01:02:59,963 And so then you have to have a war. 742 01:03:00,875 --> 01:03:05,938 We're taught to regard agriculture and settlement as the normal and natural way for humans to live. 743 01:03:06,447 --> 01:03:15,480 So it was a bit of a shock, to learn how these basic cultural changes were the fundamental cause of so many of the problems that have dogged us through the centuries. 744 01:03:16,156 --> 01:03:19,990 Derrick Jensen speaks to the end result of all of this cultural change. 745 01:03:20,527 --> 01:03:26,300 I think one of the best lines i ever wrote was that "forests precede us and deserts dog our heels." 746 01:03:26,300 --> 01:03:32,106 When I think of - or when you think of - the plains and hillsides of Iraq, 747 01:03:32,106 --> 01:03:37,169 is the first thing that you normally think of cedar forests so thick the sunlight never touches the ground? 748 01:03:37,978 --> 01:03:39,613 I think for most of us that's not the case. 749 01:03:39,613 --> 01:03:47,247 But the first written myth of this culture is Gilgamesh cutting down those forests to make cities. 750 01:03:48,789 --> 01:03:53,749 Cities. Settlements begat villages which begat towns which begat cities. 751 01:03:54,295 --> 01:03:59,300 Totalitarian and catastrophic agriculture, the accumulation of wealth and power, 752 01:03:59,300 --> 01:04:05,139 and increases in population all came together to give rise to a new form of human culture.: 753 01:04:05,139 --> 01:04:08,575 the culture of cities, the culture of civilization, 754 01:04:08,575 --> 01:04:10,270 the culture of Empire. 755 01:04:10,778 --> 01:04:21,722 I realized, as I was writing the newest book, Endgame, that i'd been bashing civilization for probably, eh, ten years now. 756 01:04:21,722 --> 01:04:24,825 And i'd never defined it. I didn't know what i was talking about. 757 01:04:24,825 --> 01:04:33,324 And so I define it in that book as a way of life characterized by the growth of cities. 758 01:04:34,368 --> 01:04:41,241 I've defined a city as a collection of people living in numbers large enough to require the importation of resources. 759 01:04:41,241 --> 01:04:45,846 A city could be defined, almost, as a human ecosystem that grossly exceeds 760 01:04:45,846 --> 01:04:48,747 the carrying capacity of its local environment. 761 01:04:49,817 --> 01:04:59,426 As Jensen and Catton point out, because cities exceed the carrying capacity of their local environment, and because they require the importation of resources, 762 01:04:59,426 --> 01:05:06,133 then those who live in cities are locked into the inevitability of getting those resources from somewhere else, 763 01:05:06,133 --> 01:05:11,093 from somebody else, by whatever means is necessary. 764 01:05:12,206 --> 01:05:14,575 Often that means is trade. 765 01:05:14,575 --> 01:05:22,349 But trade requires transport, and transport requires energy, and energy has to come from somewhere, and it eventually runs out. 766 01:05:22,349 --> 01:05:27,286 And trade requires willing partners. But people do not always want to trade. 767 01:05:27,654 --> 01:05:32,682 When trade breaks down, and you need those resources, what remains is war. 768 01:05:34,028 --> 01:05:36,826 We now need oil to keep our cities going. 769 01:05:37,097 --> 01:05:40,968 Watch the bidding war rage from trade floors to battlefields. 770 01:05:40,968 --> 01:05:44,529 Watch the Pentagon plan and the patriots act. 771 01:05:45,906 --> 01:05:50,911 Let's stop for a second and regroup. I told you I've had to challenge some assumptions. 772 01:05:50,911 --> 01:05:57,684 We've been doing agriculture and expanding and growing and building cities and accumulating material wealth for so long now 773 01:05:57,684 --> 01:06:01,288 that it just feels like this is how things are supposed to be. 774 01:06:01,288 --> 01:06:08,387 But how can a way of life that is destroying its own support systems be considered "how things are supposed to be"? 775 01:06:09,596 --> 01:06:19,471 "...they did eat every herb of the land, and all the fruit of the trees, and there remained not any green thing... " Exodus 10.:1 5 776 01:06:23,343 --> 01:06:24,469 Let's move on. 777 01:06:25,579 --> 01:06:33,687 Once our native human intelligence and creativity was combined with the defining impulses of empire, things began to snowball. 778 01:06:33,687 --> 01:06:40,127 We kept using more and more sophisticated technology so we could put off the inevitable. 779 01:06:40,127 --> 01:06:42,721 Which is.: we've got physical limits. 780 01:06:43,063 --> 01:06:47,768 Using the power of technology, we could break through the limits and laws and rules 781 01:06:47,768 --> 01:06:52,728 that kept the community of life in balance for millions of years . . . temporarily. . . 782 01:06:53,140 --> 01:06:58,378 Rules! All the time rules! i'm sick of 'em. 783 01:06:58,378 --> 01:07:01,081 Offscreen Narrator.: Excuse me for interrupting, boys and girls, 784 01:07:01,081 --> 01:07:05,185 but maybe you would like to find out just what it would be like if there were no rules. 785 01:07:05,185 --> 01:07:07,087 But how could we do that? 786 01:07:07,087 --> 01:07:09,715 By going someplace where there are no rules. 787 01:07:09,957 --> 01:07:12,126 There's no such place. 788 01:07:12,126 --> 01:07:16,230 But maybe there is a way we could go to a place without rules. 789 01:07:16,230 --> 01:07:17,397 how? 790 01:07:17,397 --> 01:07:23,461 By using our imagination. Now let's all pretend real hard. . . 791 01:07:25,506 --> 01:07:28,041 And pretend we did. 792 01:07:28,041 --> 01:07:32,279 thinking we had no limits, our power to control went right to our heads. 793 01:07:32,279 --> 01:07:35,442 As historian and "geologian" Thomas Berry put it.: 794 01:07:57,504 --> 01:08:02,464 What i say goes, see? i'm the law around here! 795 01:08:02,809 --> 01:08:05,369 (laughs) 796 01:08:06,580 --> 01:08:12,815 But the belief in the power to control has proceeded on some faulty assumptions about the limits of science. 797 01:08:40,981 --> 01:08:43,450 I've been confused about technology. 798 01:08:43,450 --> 01:08:49,122 I've heard all my life that technologies themselves are neutral, that it all depends on how we use them, 799 01:08:49,122 --> 01:08:54,354 that they can be used for good or ill, depending on the wisdom and intelligence of the user. 800 01:08:54,828 --> 01:08:57,296 But, as Jerry Mander explains.: 801 01:08:57,296 --> 01:09:02,301 That's completely wrong. You can do an analysis of every technology 802 01:09:02,301 --> 01:09:09,376 and find its beneficial aspects and its negative aspects. 803 01:09:09,376 --> 01:09:17,647 The idea that it's just about the way we use it is absurd. Because these are built-in factors. 804 01:09:18,185 --> 01:09:23,145 As an example, the difference between nuclear and solar is more than in how we use them. 805 01:09:23,657 --> 01:09:28,528 Each technology has built-in characteristics that determine how they end up being used, 806 01:09:28,528 --> 01:09:29,962 and who uses them, 807 01:09:29,962 --> 01:09:31,231 and for what. 808 01:09:31,231 --> 01:09:35,402 Military scientists are not now working on a solar powered warhead. 809 01:09:35,402 --> 01:09:39,236 And neither am I looking to put a nuclear water heater on my roof. 810 01:09:40,907 --> 01:09:45,867 Because of this misunderstanding, it's easy to get trapped in the myth of the technofix. . . 811 01:09:46,446 --> 01:09:52,886 Ever since that division of humans and human space away from the rest of the world, 812 01:09:52,886 --> 01:09:57,846 there's been one problem arising from that situation after another, you know. 813 01:09:58,458 --> 01:10:02,292 "Oh dear, we have to pipe in more water for the more farms", you know. 814 01:10:03,130 --> 01:10:05,499 "Oh dear, now we have to travel great distances". 815 01:10:05,499 --> 01:10:08,559 "Oh dear, now we need more resources, we need more land". 816 01:10:09,102 --> 01:10:13,507 Whatever. It's been one technological fix after another. 817 01:10:13,507 --> 01:10:19,146 And then as soon as you try to answer something with some kind of a technological fix that doesn't really go to the root of the problem 818 01:10:19,146 --> 01:10:20,480 then there's going to be new problems. 819 01:10:20,480 --> 01:10:22,749 And then it just rolls along. 820 01:10:22,749 --> 01:10:28,922 And so now, I mean, you look at the state of the world now and half the people in the world are living in urban areas. 821 01:10:28,922 --> 01:10:31,458 so how do you answer that? 822 01:10:31,458 --> 01:10:35,128 And the population explosion has gone to such an extreme. 823 01:10:35,128 --> 01:10:39,326 How do you answer that, but with another technological fix? 824 01:10:39,700 --> 01:10:42,169 Half the people in the world live in cities. 825 01:10:42,169 --> 01:10:47,174 And cities, by definition, exceed the carrying capacity of their local environments. 826 01:10:47,174 --> 01:10:49,267 I don't think most people know this. 827 01:10:49,609 --> 01:10:53,705 But you'll agree that to make up your mind fairly you have to know all the facts. 828 01:10:54,214 --> 01:10:56,444 See, I don't think you know all the facts. 829 01:10:57,617 --> 01:11:02,577 If we knew all the facts we'd have discarded the myth of the technofix a long time ago. 830 01:11:02,889 --> 01:11:10,864 To my eye our crisis, at its deepest levels, is a crisis not of technology but of meaning and purpose. 831 01:11:10,864 --> 01:11:17,738 We keep acting like all we need do is throw more technology at it while we fall to understand, or even see, 832 01:11:17,738 --> 01:11:25,702 the clearly cultural issues that doom to fantastic failure these ever more desperate attempts to keep the present system going. 833 01:11:26,346 --> 01:11:30,784 We've been pretending for so long we've forgotten what we once knew.: 834 01:11:30,784 --> 01:11:34,982 you can't survive in the long run if you don't follow the laws of life. 835 01:11:36,156 --> 01:11:42,396 As we settled into agriculture and civilization, agriculture and civilization settled into us. 836 01:11:42,396 --> 01:11:45,098 We fenced ourselves off from the world. . . 837 01:11:45,098 --> 01:11:48,969 And everything inside the fence became what we needed to survive. 838 01:11:48,969 --> 01:11:55,135 And everything outside the fence became threatening, wild, you know, uncontrollable, keep it out! 839 01:11:55,842 --> 01:11:59,379 And our technologies cut us off from our own experience. . . 840 01:11:59,379 --> 01:12:06,420 We can build a culture that sits between us and the world. 841 01:12:06,420 --> 01:12:11,491 And it mediates our behavior toward the world. 842 01:12:11,491 --> 01:12:14,227 And it mediates what we do and what we perceive. 843 01:12:14,227 --> 01:12:19,499 If you have a spear, it becomes a lot easier. You don't have to kill somebody right in front of you. 844 01:12:19,499 --> 01:12:24,204 You can kill somebody thirty feet away. And that distance makes it easier to kill. 845 01:12:24,204 --> 01:12:31,445 And if you've been sent into war with a B2 bomber strapped to your back and an array of high-tech sensors at your fingertips, 846 01:12:31,445 --> 01:12:38,214 you can kill Iraqis with no more thought or feeling than you might have wasting the Covenant on your X-Box at home. 847 01:12:40,787 --> 01:12:44,858 this disconnection from the world, from other people and other creatures, 848 01:12:44,858 --> 01:12:48,624 altered our relationships, and left us confused and wounded. 849 01:13:16,456 --> 01:13:22,229 At what point do we stop and listen? And if we stop and listen, what will we be able to hear? 850 01:13:22,229 --> 01:13:30,500 Disconnection has stopped our ears. The planet's voice barely registers. Our minds are clogged with stories. 851 01:13:30,871 --> 01:13:36,309 Central to my understanding of the world is this.: all cultures are based on stories. 852 01:13:36,309 --> 01:13:42,215 The culture of civilization and empire comes with its own unique set of beliefs and impulses. 853 01:13:42,215 --> 01:13:46,515 Listen to some of the stories that have brought us to our present predicament. 854 01:13:46,586 --> 01:13:49,256 "There's never quite enough" 855 01:13:49,256 --> 01:13:50,624 "We're innately flawed" 856 01:13:50,624 --> 01:13:53,493 "it's heresy today to say, 'let's stop growing"' 857 01:13:53,493 --> 01:13:55,161 "Hard work is morally virtuous" 858 01:13:55,161 --> 01:13:56,463 "More is better" 859 01:13:56,463 --> 01:13:59,766 "The physical world as i see it is everything" 860 01:13:59,766 --> 01:14:02,235 "We can solve any problem" 861 01:14:02,235 --> 01:14:06,740 "I mean... they actually say that the way to be happy is to own more stuff" 862 01:14:06,740 --> 01:14:11,478 "We are to subdue the earth and have dominion over it" 863 01:14:11,478 --> 01:14:16,783 "We own. . . we own the planet. We own everything here. We own these resources" 864 01:14:16,783 --> 01:14:21,354 "Humans have rights. Nothing else has rights" 865 01:14:21,354 --> 01:14:27,224 "There are many times in which people just don't want to be told that such-and-such a place is off-limits to them" 866 01:14:27,894 --> 01:14:32,194 Living with stories like this, is it any wonder we're devouring the planet? 867 01:14:33,033 --> 01:14:37,026 In some ways we're kind of - we're in a culture of two-year-olds. 868 01:14:37,704 --> 01:14:41,708 Where we just won't look at the limits. 869 01:14:41,708 --> 01:14:49,740 Dominion over the Earth, in Genesis, didn't mean to leave this pillaged and smoking. 870 01:14:50,684 --> 01:14:54,211 Daniel Quinn has named some of the basic stories of Empire. 871 01:14:54,588 --> 01:14:58,391 The ambient voice of our culture tells us that 872 01:14:58,391 --> 01:15:03,997 this is the best that humans could ever hope for. 873 01:15:03,997 --> 01:15:06,666 What we've got right now, where we're going. 874 01:15:06,666 --> 01:15:08,827 It's just unsurpassable. 875 01:15:09,402 --> 01:15:13,640 Ergo, any alternative has got to be worse. 876 01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:17,310 There were other civilizations besides ours; 877 01:15:17,310 --> 01:15:20,580 they did not think that they had the one right way to live, 878 01:15:20,580 --> 01:15:24,017 and that everyone in the world should be made to live that way. 879 01:15:24,017 --> 01:15:27,020 We're taught to think that we are Humanity. 880 01:15:27,020 --> 01:15:33,526 if there are other people out there that are different from us, well they're degenerates, 881 01:15:33,526 --> 01:15:36,296 or they're just not as far advanced as we are. 882 01:15:36,296 --> 01:15:40,700 We came along, and began doing things, 883 01:15:40,700 --> 01:15:42,463 and building civilization, 884 01:15:42,802 --> 01:15:46,397 and this is the way humans were meant to live from the beginning. 885 01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:50,141 Which is one reason why we can't give it up. 886 01:15:51,911 --> 01:15:55,904 Here, perhaps, is the most dangerous story of them all. . . 887 01:15:57,384 --> 01:16:06,526 We are superior to all other creatures and our lives are independent of theirs. 888 01:16:06,526 --> 01:16:15,491 Narrator.: Through his intellect man has developed a superiority over every other form of animal life. 889 01:16:17,537 --> 01:16:22,909 with the stories of Empire in place, civilization was ready to spread around the planet. 890 01:16:22,909 --> 01:16:27,013 Ran Prieur explains the core idea of "The Parable of the Tribes", 891 01:16:27,013 --> 01:16:33,316 which reveals how the culture of Empire prevailed in a process of cultural evolution that selects for power. 892 01:16:33,687 --> 01:16:36,456 imagine there's a bunch of tribes that are living together peacefully. 893 01:16:36,456 --> 01:16:42,929 And one of the tribes, for some reason, instead of living in balance and in peace, 894 01:16:42,929 --> 01:16:48,697 they decide that they're going to make a bunch of weapons and conquer the next tribe and turn them into slaves. 895 01:16:49,736 --> 01:16:51,966 The next tribe has three choices. 896 01:16:53,239 --> 01:16:59,701 if they run away the paradigm of the violent tribe expands into their territory. 897 01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:05,985 if they submit into slavery the paradigm of the violent tribe expands into their territory. 898 01:17:05,985 --> 01:17:11,825 if they build weapons to fight back the paradigm of the violent tribe expands into their territory. 899 01:17:11,825 --> 01:17:20,028 And that just goes on until the whole world is made up of people who make weapons and fight and enslave other people. 900 01:17:21,468 --> 01:17:25,438 After ten thousand years of this, we've forgotten who we are. . . 901 01:17:25,438 --> 01:17:30,398 How could three million years of human life be meaningless? 902 01:17:30,710 --> 01:17:36,282 The way people were living at that time, during that vast period,: 903 01:17:36,282 --> 01:17:43,882 they were living in a way in which humans could live for millions of years. 904 01:17:44,557 --> 01:17:49,517 Tens of millions of years. And that's something! 905 01:17:50,096 --> 01:17:56,035 Man, now we're saying "how many decades can we have?" 906 01:17:56,035 --> 01:18:00,267 And if we go on living this way, it's not many. 907 01:18:04,144 --> 01:18:07,881 It strikes me as critical that we remember who we really are. 908 01:18:07,881 --> 01:18:12,719 We have these huge brains and a great capacity for innovation and adaptation. 909 01:18:12,719 --> 01:18:17,679 But we can get trapped inside of stories and fantasies that block us from our own greatness. 910 01:18:18,324 --> 01:18:26,065 Well, human beings can act either as members of climax ecosystems, 911 01:18:26,065 --> 01:18:30,136 where we integrate ourselves into everything else that's going on, 912 01:18:30,136 --> 01:18:33,206 or we can act as invasive species, like the cane toad. 913 01:18:33,206 --> 01:18:41,170 The classic example of human beings acting as an invasive species, of course, is Europeans over the last five hundred years or so. 914 01:18:42,215 --> 01:18:47,220 It doesn't have to be this way. Not all human cultures have followed this path. 915 01:18:47,220 --> 01:18:54,854 When I look closely, what I see is that human capacities and characteristics have always been medlated by the larger society. 916 01:18:55,929 --> 01:18:57,294 Always. 917 01:18:58,832 --> 01:19:05,795 One person I spoke with who discussed our present predicament in terms of inherent human characteristics was Richard Manning. 918 01:19:06,272 --> 01:19:11,110 to survive in our hunter-gatherer days. . . a very narrow field of vision. 919 01:19:11,110 --> 01:19:16,082 You had to be concerned with what was happening around you in the immediate hundred yards. 920 01:19:16,082 --> 01:19:21,454 You had to be worried about what was going to happen in the next ten seconds or five minutes. 921 01:19:21,454 --> 01:19:25,258 Where was that tiger going to come from that was going to bite your neck and kill you? 922 01:19:25,258 --> 01:19:28,795 So our strongest instincts are geared to the immediate. 923 01:19:28,795 --> 01:19:32,832 Our adrenaline doesn't start to flow when we read about global warming. 924 01:19:32,832 --> 01:19:35,665 It starts to flow when somebody put a fist in our face. 925 01:19:36,636 --> 01:19:42,008 And yet the Haudenosaunee evolved a culture that balanced those strong instincts. 926 01:19:42,008 --> 01:19:46,179 They make decisions based on their impact on the seventh generation. 927 01:19:46,179 --> 01:19:49,315 Contrast that with the culture of Empire. 928 01:19:49,315 --> 01:19:54,020 What we've never been able to do is recognize a limit coming from thirty or forty years out 929 01:19:54,020 --> 01:19:55,455 and behave accordingly. 930 01:19:55,455 --> 01:20:01,121 And so we haven't seen climate change coming. And most people don't see oil depletion coming. 931 01:20:01,961 --> 01:20:06,165 And there are other forces in the universe that play out over the long term. 932 01:20:06,165 --> 01:20:12,005 Exponential growth and population dynamics can both unfold over generations making them, 933 01:20:12,005 --> 01:20:16,509 for humans blinded by their own culture, difficult to see. 934 01:20:16,509 --> 01:20:19,879 William Catton explains another long-term process. 935 01:20:19,879 --> 01:20:27,253 C. Wright Mills of Columbia University - kind of a maverick - gave a nice physiological definition of fate. 936 01:20:27,253 --> 01:20:38,965 Fate is what happens when innumerable people make innumerable small decisions about other matters that have a collective, cumulative effect that Nobody intended. 937 01:20:38,965 --> 01:20:42,302 Ok. That's what's happened when we overpopulated the world. 938 01:20:42,302 --> 01:20:50,437 Nobody intended to overpopulate the world. Nobody intended to pollute the oceans. Nobody intended to start the greenhouse effect. 939 01:20:52,111 --> 01:20:55,648 So this is part of what I've come to about how we got here.: 940 01:20:55,648 --> 01:20:59,419 a snarl of assumptions and behaviors and beliefs and stories 941 01:20:59,419 --> 01:21:02,288 that form the backbone of the culture of Empire, 942 01:21:02,288 --> 01:21:06,122 a fusion of forces that severed us from the laws of life. 943 01:21:06,559 --> 01:21:09,796 this culture tells us that we can live apart from those laws. 944 01:21:09,796 --> 01:21:12,332 Without limits. Without rules. 945 01:21:12,332 --> 01:21:16,936 But doing so has left us, and the planet, battered and beaten. 946 01:21:16,936 --> 01:21:20,770 It isn't working out the way we've been taught to think it will. 947 01:21:22,108 --> 01:21:25,545 Offscreen Narrator.: Well boys and girls, how do you like living without rules? 948 01:21:25,545 --> 01:21:27,246 I hate it! 949 01:21:27,246 --> 01:21:30,016 This is no fun. 950 01:21:30,016 --> 01:21:32,450 It stinks. 951 01:21:34,220 --> 01:21:43,390 Over and over I've had to ask.: why do we keep destroying the planet, even now, when the evidence that we are doing so is overwhelming? 952 01:21:43,930 --> 01:21:48,735 The first thing to note is that all of these historical forces are still in play. 953 01:21:48,735 --> 01:21:52,238 And some new forces have arisen in our time. 954 01:21:52,238 --> 01:21:57,198 It's sobering to consider that we're trapped in an economy that must grow or die. 955 01:21:57,543 --> 01:22:01,914 The economy will, can and must continue to grow. 956 01:22:01,914 --> 01:22:06,078 Now of course this is an absurdity. Because we live on a finite spherical planet. 957 01:22:07,153 --> 01:22:10,748 so there's only so much stuff to chew up and spit out. 958 01:22:11,824 --> 01:22:16,022 We're assaulted by corporately controlled media that keep us delusional. 959 01:22:16,496 --> 01:22:23,459 People tend to think that they have a choice about what information they take from television. 960 01:22:24,404 --> 01:22:32,011 And we are sitting and receiving a form of information, which is very very powerful. It comes in the form of images. 961 01:22:32,011 --> 01:22:34,002 And once the images go in, they don't come out. 962 01:22:34,414 --> 01:22:37,717 it's almost science fiction in its implications. 963 01:22:37,717 --> 01:22:42,155 It's Big Brother. And yet we think it's perfectly normal. 964 01:22:42,155 --> 01:22:47,160 As people's real lives become more and more degraded and unsatisfying 965 01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:54,328 and petty and vulgar and irritating and sterile, 966 01:22:55,501 --> 01:23:01,841 then the appeals of those glorified images became all the more powerful. 967 01:23:01,841 --> 01:23:05,211 There's a great line be Zygmunt Bauman that - 968 01:23:05,211 --> 01:23:10,583 he says that rational people will go quietly and meekly into a gas chamber 969 01:23:10,583 --> 01:23:13,074 if only you allow them to believe it's a bathroom. 970 01:23:15,755 --> 01:23:21,091 And I've lost all hope that my government is capable of looking clearly at the situation. 971 01:23:25,565 --> 01:23:32,872 Sadly, it looks as though much of our educational system leaves us totally unprepared to question the dominant culture. 972 01:23:32,872 --> 01:23:37,877 It numbs our critical thinking skills, instead of developing them. 973 01:23:37,877 --> 01:23:48,185 And it goes along with technical, industrialized society because you need to turn people into interchangeable machine parts 974 01:23:48,554 --> 01:23:52,820 where you can pull one person out, stick another person in the same spot. 975 01:23:53,359 --> 01:23:58,194 Narrator.: These children are being taught to accept uncritically whatever they're told. 976 01:23:58,731 --> 01:24:01,199 Questions are not encouraged. 977 01:24:02,201 --> 01:24:07,006 I've certainly never been encouraged to question how our culture creates disconnection. 978 01:24:07,006 --> 01:24:12,745 Every one of us is living in this little comfortable bubble that's completely disconnected 979 01:24:12,745 --> 01:24:18,584 from the real world of animals and plants and soil and water and natural forces 980 01:24:18,584 --> 01:24:23,289 that produces everything that's of any meaning whatsoever on this planet. 981 01:24:23,289 --> 01:24:28,728 If your experience is that your food comes from the grocery store, 982 01:24:28,728 --> 01:24:30,930 and that your water comes from a tap, 983 01:24:30,930 --> 01:24:34,467 you will defend to the death the system that brings those to you. 984 01:24:34,467 --> 01:24:36,102 Because your life depends on it. 985 01:24:36,102 --> 01:24:38,871 If your experience is that your water comes from a stream 986 01:24:38,871 --> 01:24:41,507 and that your food comes from a land base, 987 01:24:41,507 --> 01:24:45,967 you will defend to the death that stream and that land base because your life depends on it. 988 01:24:47,480 --> 01:24:55,855 Systems of manipulation and exploitation. Structures of disconnection and delusion. Institutions of domination and deceit. 989 01:24:55,855 --> 01:24:59,689 I had to ask.: who would create such things? 990 01:25:00,393 --> 01:25:04,730 Only people who have become almost wholly disconnected from their world. 991 01:25:04,730 --> 01:25:07,733 People who have forgotten who they once were. 992 01:25:07,733 --> 01:25:10,395 People who have been deeply wounded. 993 01:25:11,971 --> 01:25:14,540 We've gotten lost in a hall of mirrors. 994 01:25:14,540 --> 01:25:24,083 Everything that we receive - everything we see, hear, smell, taste, feel - originates in, or is mediated by, humans and machines. 995 01:25:24,083 --> 01:25:28,621 That affects our consciousness. It gives us an inflated sense 996 01:25:28,621 --> 01:25:32,358 of our own importance and of what reality is. 997 01:25:32,358 --> 01:25:37,096 As if, because we've made it, It makes it most real. 998 01:25:37,096 --> 01:25:44,937 As any narcissist knows, it's endless. We can never get enough of that: enough of that reflection of ourselves. 999 01:25:44,937 --> 01:25:47,667 What we're really aching for is real relationship. 1000 01:25:49,575 --> 01:25:57,216 Our animal bodies, I think, formed by the Earth itself, want and require a real relationship to the world. 1001 01:25:57,216 --> 01:25:59,252 To the water, wind and soil. 1002 01:25:59,252 --> 01:26:04,212 To the animals, plants and fellow humans that comprise the community into which we were born. 1003 01:26:05,124 --> 01:26:10,084 But we're stuck in the hall of mirrors. And we've begun to lose our sanity. 1004 01:26:10,730 --> 01:26:16,335 So that you see the beginning of something like dissociation, like post-traumatic stress disorder, 1005 01:26:16,335 --> 01:26:19,905 like schizophrenia, like multiple personalities, you know. 1006 01:26:19,905 --> 01:26:28,938 You see that the fragmentation in the world today is being mirrored in all of these kind of very severe psychological disorders. 1007 01:26:29,615 --> 01:26:35,187 if you're in that sort of solitary confinement you're going to start hallucinating. 1008 01:26:35,187 --> 01:26:40,192 And you may end up believing strange things. 1009 01:26:40,192 --> 01:26:42,820 Like the idea that humans are superior. 1010 01:26:44,096 --> 01:26:51,604 Acting out of that belief of superiority, of entitlement, of invincibility, Empire has conquered the world. 1011 01:26:51,604 --> 01:26:56,375 But that conquering has bounced back on the conquerors, leaving everyone wounded. 1012 01:26:56,375 --> 01:27:03,716 if the world, the system that we're living in, is harming other people, 1013 01:27:03,716 --> 01:27:06,619 then that's something that, you know, you can't live with that. 1014 01:27:06,619 --> 01:27:12,825 So if you look at the people who have been assimilated into Empire, 1015 01:27:12,825 --> 01:27:15,461 and if you look at the Imperialists themselves, 1016 01:27:15,461 --> 01:27:21,764 you find an incredible dissociation from reality. 1017 01:27:22,735 --> 01:27:27,239 Dissociated from the reality of the planet, we don't act on its behalf. 1018 01:27:27,239 --> 01:27:35,581 Feeling for nature is diminishing to the degree that people are less desiring 1019 01:27:35,581 --> 01:27:39,352 and less able to influence policy about nature, 1020 01:27:39,352 --> 01:27:42,515 to do anything to protect nature, to have any feeling for nature. 1021 01:27:42,988 --> 01:27:46,719 it's hard to have feeling for it if you never have any contact with it. 1022 01:27:47,360 --> 01:27:50,429 And it's hard to have any contact with the rest of the world 1023 01:27:50,429 --> 01:27:53,432 because we're living like an animal in a cage. 1024 01:27:53,432 --> 01:27:55,798 Just think about an animal in a zoo. 1025 01:27:56,902 --> 01:28:04,775 An animal's deprived of the very things that keep that animal going.: the smells, the sights, the sounds, the instincts, the hunting. 1026 01:28:05,544 --> 01:28:09,480 And they become psychotic. Literally psychotic. 1027 01:28:10,216 --> 01:28:14,587 I think that we've done something to ourselves that is exactly analogous to that. 1028 01:28:14,587 --> 01:28:19,125 We've put ourselves in a cage - this cage of civilization, of cities. 1029 01:28:19,125 --> 01:28:21,560 And it's made us, in a way, psychotic. 1030 01:28:21,560 --> 01:28:26,932 That - if you would have a group of hunter- gatherers - and this has happened a lot - 1031 01:28:26,932 --> 01:28:34,673 hunter-gatherers watch behavior of people in our society, they would think we were crazy for the way we behave. 1032 01:28:34,673 --> 01:28:36,004 Because we are. 1033 01:28:37,510 --> 01:28:43,749 I stop. I listen. I watch the world. The disconnection is everywhere. 1034 01:28:43,749 --> 01:28:54,455 You learn it as a child. You learn to not feel the kind of pain that is inflicted upon you by the lack of connection. 1035 01:28:55,194 --> 01:28:58,595 By being in a crib by yourself in a dark room. 1036 01:28:59,031 --> 01:29:05,438 By not having the breastfeeding. By not having the constant contact with other people's bodies. 1037 01:29:05,438 --> 01:29:11,877 Television viewing for children, and I think to some degree for adults, 1038 01:29:11,877 --> 01:29:23,022 is a training for more hyperactive lifestyles and hyperactive informational systems. 1039 01:29:23,022 --> 01:29:33,466 And that is putting people into a kind of emotional psychological state, which makes it impossible to relate to nature. 1040 01:29:33,466 --> 01:29:36,335 So, I mean, it's concrete alienation again. 1041 01:29:36,335 --> 01:29:46,579 most of us don't have a human community where we can rest and feel safe and feel like "i'm going to be taken care of". 1042 01:29:46,579 --> 01:29:54,887 in our culture there's so many things that are set up to stop us from connecting directly. 1043 01:29:54,887 --> 01:29:58,691 If you go to a bar- we take this for granted - if you go to a bar it's dark. 1044 01:29:58,691 --> 01:30:00,522 There's really loud music playing. 1045 01:30:01,861 --> 01:30:08,289 Because if it were quiet and there were good light people would get freaked out to have to deal with each other so directly. 1046 01:30:11,604 --> 01:30:14,340 Our economy thrives on this. 1047 01:30:14,340 --> 01:30:20,040 It's pretty easy to sell stuff to people who are so disconnected from the things that they most need. 1048 01:30:20,713 --> 01:30:24,513 The stores are filled with bandages for the wounds of Empire. 1049 01:30:26,018 --> 01:30:28,621 There are other ways to look at this wounding. 1050 01:30:28,621 --> 01:30:36,795 Derrick Jensen sees the dominant culture as an abusive system, leaving its members suffering from Complex Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. 1051 01:30:36,795 --> 01:30:42,968 What happens if you're not traumatized once or twice, but if you're actually in captivity for a long time? if you're held as prisoner? 1052 01:30:42,968 --> 01:30:47,973 One of the things that happens is you become afraid of all relationships and you have to control everything around you. 1053 01:30:47,973 --> 01:30:53,946 You forget that mutual relationships are possible and you begin to believe that all relationships are based upon hierarchy. 1054 01:30:53,946 --> 01:30:56,482 Because that was your experience. 1055 01:30:56,482 --> 01:31:03,455 And you come to believe that all relationships are based on power. And, of course, when we look around that's what we see. 1056 01:31:03,455 --> 01:31:12,765 So we are too frightened to enter into a relationship with these trees, with all of our neighbors. 1057 01:31:12,765 --> 01:31:16,098 And so we call them resources: those to be exploited. 1058 01:31:17,303 --> 01:31:22,575 Everything within an abusive family structure is set up to protect the abuser. Everything. 1059 01:31:22,575 --> 01:31:30,141 And by the same token, everything within this culture is setup to protect the rich. That's what this culture is about. 1060 01:31:31,784 --> 01:31:38,424 Why do so many victims of abuse stay with their abusers? 1061 01:31:38,424 --> 01:31:45,965 Because they're identified with the system. And they've been taught since they were very - since early on - that everything is about protecting that system. 1062 01:31:45,965 --> 01:31:52,071 with civilization, we've been taught to identify with this larger whole that isn't us. 1063 01:31:52,071 --> 01:32:00,171 We identify more strongly as "civilized" than we do as living beings. 1064 01:32:02,047 --> 01:32:06,352 Over the years I've begun to break my own identification with the dominant culture, 1065 01:32:06,352 --> 01:32:10,356 to reconnect with myself as a living creature walking the Earth. 1066 01:32:10,356 --> 01:32:14,493 I'm still not finished with the task. A daunting challenge. 1067 01:32:14,493 --> 01:32:18,452 And yet one of the most rewarding things I've ever done. 1068 01:32:20,065 --> 01:32:23,694 I've also learned to view this culture through the lens of addiction. 1069 01:32:24,536 --> 01:32:34,468 Addiction is based on continually seeking more of what it is we don't really want. 1070 01:32:35,214 --> 01:32:38,775 And therefore, never being fully satisfied. 1071 01:32:39,151 --> 01:32:44,156 There's a deep need. There's a deep hole, a deep longing, 1072 01:32:44,156 --> 01:32:50,129 a deep fear, a deep grief, a deep rage. 1073 01:32:50,129 --> 01:32:55,134 And so there's food, there's cigarettes, there's alcohol, there's drugs, there's computers, 1074 01:32:55,134 --> 01:33:00,606 there's TV, there's movies, there's shopping, there's music. . .it's endless. 1075 01:33:00,606 --> 01:33:10,249 Chellis Glendinning.: All of that, that we've now determined people can be addicted to, it's like a technological fix. 1076 01:33:10,249 --> 01:33:18,123 So as long as that's working, why would I stop? I won't stop. An alcoholic doesn't stop. 1077 01:33:18,123 --> 01:33:22,753 A drug addict doesn't stop as long as it's working. But you reach a point where it doesn't work any more. 1078 01:33:23,829 --> 01:33:30,636 After centuries of abuse, disconnection, delusion and addiction, it looks as though we're desperate to hit bottom. 1079 01:33:30,636 --> 01:33:39,144 it's almost as if we're wanting to hit bottom so hard that we either shift or die. 1080 01:33:39,144 --> 01:33:41,772 Cause it's not worth continuing like this. 1081 01:33:42,514 --> 01:33:47,886 so many people are so very, very unhappy. And they want this nightmare to end. 1082 01:33:47,886 --> 01:33:58,194 And they don't recognize that the death that they want is a cultural death, and is a spiritual and metaphorical death. 1083 01:33:59,531 --> 01:34:02,868 That would explain why we continue to foul our nest. 1084 01:34:02,868 --> 01:34:07,237 If what we want is to hit bottom, we've found the perfect means to get us there. 1085 01:34:07,639 --> 01:34:08,128 Denial. 1086 01:34:08,240 --> 01:34:08,831 Denial. 1087 01:34:08,941 --> 01:34:09,464 Denial. 1088 01:34:09,575 --> 01:34:10,200 Denial. 1089 01:34:10,309 --> 01:34:11,139 Denial. 1090 01:34:11,243 --> 01:34:12,232 Denial. 1091 01:34:12,344 --> 01:34:17,082 Denial in huge neon letters that blink on and off 1092 01:34:17,082 --> 01:34:20,574 like the old Rocky and Bullwinkle credits at the end of the show! 1093 01:34:22,287 --> 01:34:27,960 Again I stop. And listen. And watch as I move through the landscape of Empire. 1094 01:34:27,960 --> 01:34:31,263 The denial is so thick that you could cut it with a paper knife. 1095 01:34:31,263 --> 01:34:34,600 If only you weren't still using it to frost that cake. 1096 01:34:34,600 --> 01:34:39,605 Denial takes tremendous energy. And if you have to work really, really hard 1097 01:34:39,605 --> 01:34:47,137 to not acknowledge the fact that this culture's killing everything, 1098 01:34:47,679 --> 01:34:49,840 you're not going to have much energy left over. 1099 01:34:50,582 --> 01:34:56,155 It's the energy I freed up when I stepped out of my own denial that has made this documentary possible. 1100 01:34:56,155 --> 01:35:01,115 The more I let down my defenses, the more I find the power to look more deeply at the world. 1101 01:35:01,994 --> 01:35:09,301 And when I look I find the story of "somehow", a fantasy that keeps us passive in the face of the world situation. 1102 01:35:09,301 --> 01:35:13,772 "We've muddled through things before. And somehow we'll muddle through this one." 1103 01:35:13,772 --> 01:35:15,507 "somehow, everything's ok." 1104 01:35:15,507 --> 01:35:18,076 somehow? How do we get there? You know? 1105 01:35:18,076 --> 01:35:23,173 It's like - it doesn't do any good to fantasize if there's no way to get from here to there. 1106 01:35:24,616 --> 01:35:30,680 Is there a way to get from here to there? And where is there, exactly? Where do go from here? 1107 01:35:31,557 --> 01:35:37,928 As world events break through our walls of denial, voices of helplessness and resignation fill the air. 1108 01:35:38,530 --> 01:35:42,296 Voice 1 : If we knew some way to get out of it we would. But we don't. 1109 01:35:42,701 --> 01:35:44,498 Voice 2: Whatever's gonna happen is gonna happen. 1110 01:35:44,870 --> 01:35:47,498 Voice 3: There's gonna have to be some sort of catastrophic event. 1111 01:35:47,873 --> 01:35:51,844 Voice 4: A meltdown of all of these systems that we've been depending on. 1112 01:35:51,844 --> 01:35:58,750 Voice 5: We figure there's no way to stop the train from heading off the end of the bridge, you know. We're just gonna go down screaming. 1113 01:35:58,750 --> 01:36:04,656 Voice 6: And finally you just say, "Aww fuck it. this is. . . you know. . . let's just fuck it. Who cares?" 1114 01:36:04,656 --> 01:36:11,289 Voice 7: You know, we might as well go out and party and have a good time. Because the world's not going anywhere good. 1115 01:36:14,299 --> 01:36:18,292 this system feels like a trap, a madhouse, a prison. 1116 01:36:18,971 --> 01:36:23,308 With resignation this profound, It seems as though there is little left to do 1117 01:36:23,308 --> 01:36:24,309 but to make the prison 1118 01:36:24,309 --> 01:36:26,709 as comfortable as is possible. 1119 01:36:31,083 --> 01:36:36,355 Narrator.: Personalized. And with accessories engineered to our personalized taste. 1120 01:36:36,355 --> 01:36:39,153 For convenience. For comfort. 1121 01:36:40,626 --> 01:36:42,958 For convenience and safety. 1122 01:36:43,795 --> 01:36:45,786 With protection from rain. 1123 01:36:48,800 --> 01:36:53,430 Blocking out the wintry gale with comforting warmth. 1124 01:36:56,308 --> 01:37:00,301 To hold out the searing heat with cooling comfort. 1125 01:37:02,281 --> 01:37:08,987 Capitalist culture is telling us to buy. And we will feel better if we buy more... 1126 01:37:08,987 --> 01:37:17,262 . . .that we are incomplete and that we need to fill this emptiness within us by consuming. 1127 01:37:17,262 --> 01:37:19,753 Consume, consume, consume. 1128 01:37:21,066 --> 01:37:24,369 We've looked now at the train that is hurtling us to destruction, 1129 01:37:24,369 --> 01:37:26,171 at the tracks that constrain us, 1130 01:37:26,171 --> 01:37:29,107 at the locomotive power that drives us to oblivion. 1131 01:37:29,107 --> 01:37:32,838 And we see more clearly now exactly where we are headed. 1132 01:37:33,312 --> 01:37:35,047 It all adds up to this.: 1133 01:37:35,047 --> 01:37:40,417 this culture is not only killing the planet, It is destroying us as human beings. 1134 01:37:43,155 --> 01:37:46,454 The train plunges forward at blinding speed. 1135 01:37:47,559 --> 01:37:49,459 "Charlie stole the handle. " 1136 01:37:50,729 --> 01:37:52,629 So who are we going to be? 1137 01:37:57,035 --> 01:38:02,268 First Psychologist.: In the film I see a man standing on the ledge. Do you think he really wants to live? 1138 01:38:02,941 --> 01:38:04,966 Second Psychologist.: The answer, of course, is yes. 1139 01:38:08,280 --> 01:38:12,239 I don't think humans are going to go extinct. We can't kill ourselves off. 1140 01:38:13,185 --> 01:38:17,622 I just don't see any plausible way it could happen. . . 1141 01:38:19,057 --> 01:38:20,993 well. . . I guess. . . yeah. . . 1142 01:38:20,993 --> 01:38:27,265 What we could - what might happen is the earth could get into a serious runaway greenhouse effect 1143 01:38:27,265 --> 01:38:30,369 that could turn the whole planet like the planet Venus. 1144 01:38:30,369 --> 01:38:33,202 Where it's like a thousand degrees and full of methane. 1145 01:38:43,815 --> 01:38:49,054 A powerful creative tension arises when we hold two things at the same time.: 1146 01:38:49,054 --> 01:38:54,014 a clear assessment of where we are, and a clear vision of where we want to go. 1147 01:38:54,993 --> 01:38:58,087 I don't see that the culture of Empire has either. 1148 01:38:58,630 --> 01:39:03,434 Trapped in a fantasy of domination and control, any clear assessment of the world 1149 01:39:03,434 --> 01:39:07,871 gets trampled underfoot in the mad march toward the scam of progress. 1150 01:39:08,540 --> 01:39:15,878 Traumatized by disconnection and abuse, the people of Empire now hold visions that are unhinged and insane. 1151 01:39:17,215 --> 01:39:24,245 Born and raised in captivity, we're now so institutionalized that few of us can even see the prison bars. 1152 01:39:25,057 --> 01:39:27,183 But we all know our cell numbers. 1153 01:39:28,760 --> 01:39:32,531 Waking on the train, we find that we don't know where we are. 1154 01:39:32,531 --> 01:39:34,829 And we don't know where we're going. 1155 01:39:35,433 --> 01:39:39,894 We hear the whistle blowing. And we can see the world speeding by. 1156 01:39:40,739 --> 01:39:43,138 Some of us want to stop the train. 1157 01:39:43,941 --> 01:39:47,308 We want to get off before it reaches the end of the line. 1158 01:39:48,180 --> 01:39:52,138 But we have no clear idea how to get from here to there. 1159 01:39:57,556 --> 01:40:07,955 The secret plan is that we're going to go on this way, no matter what, for as long as we can. 1160 01:40:08,532 --> 01:40:16,871 I likened it to the secret plan in Nazi Germany. It was an open secret. 1161 01:40:17,909 --> 01:40:27,307 Everyone knew that those Jews weren't going off to resorts or to have picnics in the woods. 1162 01:40:27,886 --> 01:40:31,456 But no one talked about it. And no one talks about this either. 1163 01:40:31,456 --> 01:40:33,358 This is scary! We're in a democracy! 1164 01:40:33,358 --> 01:40:36,995 We're in the biggest democracy on the planet and we're not getting informed. 1165 01:40:36,995 --> 01:40:40,799 And we're not looking, either. We're not asking. 1166 01:40:40,799 --> 01:40:49,832 As civilization has provided more and more for us, it's made us more and more infantile. 1167 01:40:50,108 --> 01:40:58,450 So that we are less and less able to think for ourselves, less and less able to provide for ourselves. 1168 01:40:58,450 --> 01:41:04,656 And this makes us more of a herd. . . where you develop more of a herd mentality. . . 1169 01:41:04,656 --> 01:41:10,686 where we take our cues from the people around us, from the authority figures around us. 1170 01:41:27,312 --> 01:41:29,246 The situation is desperate. 1171 01:41:29,246 --> 01:41:38,022 It's the World-Wide Eco-Slam, where climate Crash goes head-to-head with The Peak oil kid and Overshoot tears into Mass Extinction. 1172 01:41:38,022 --> 01:41:42,983 It's the Smackdown at the End of the Universe and tickets go on sale this Friday. 1173 01:41:44,262 --> 01:41:47,299 The American lifestyle is unsustainable. 1174 01:41:47,299 --> 01:41:50,701 That means that it can't be sustained. 1175 01:41:50,701 --> 01:41:52,532 It's coming to an end. 1176 01:41:53,438 --> 01:42:00,606 Remember how thirty years ago we looked to the future and said "thirty years from now, if we don't act, we're going to be in trouble"? 1177 01:42:01,478 --> 01:42:05,279 Well it's now and we are because we didn't. 1178 01:42:06,183 --> 01:42:09,087 The fundamental laws of life have been broken. 1179 01:42:09,087 --> 01:42:12,147 The consequences of that are now apparent. 1180 01:42:13,625 --> 01:42:19,757 Remember the Secret Plan.: the dominant culture is not going to stop until it destroys everything. 1181 01:42:20,432 --> 01:42:21,421 It can't. 1182 01:42:21,866 --> 01:42:27,498 It's built on a foundation of faulty assumptions. I see no way that it can be reformed. 1183 01:42:28,106 --> 01:42:32,975 It can only be discarded, so that something new can grow in its place. 1184 01:42:34,512 --> 01:42:36,639 We have to look at this. 1185 01:43:05,710 --> 01:43:10,482 We've got to understand that we are part of a living community. 1186 01:43:10,482 --> 01:43:14,786 We're not the masters of the living community. We're not the guardians of the living community. 1187 01:43:14,786 --> 01:43:24,262 We are just another species. And we have the power to destroy that community. 1188 01:43:24,262 --> 01:43:27,425 And when we do that we destroy ourselves. 1189 01:43:27,899 --> 01:43:33,905 if we don't figure out what our place in the universe is 1190 01:43:33,905 --> 01:43:36,931 we're not going to have a place in the universe. 1191 01:43:46,751 --> 01:43:51,656 I have read many books about the world situation. And I have noticed a curious thing.: 1192 01:43:51,656 --> 01:43:53,556 the Happy Chapter". 1193 01:43:54,959 --> 01:44:00,765 After an entire book of dire prognostications and appalling facts comes the chapter at the end 1194 01:44:00,765 --> 01:44:05,837 that says that if we only do this and this and that we'll find the solution, 1195 01:44:05,837 --> 01:44:11,469 that while there is much to give us concern, there is also much about which we can be hopeful. 1196 01:44:13,011 --> 01:44:15,280 I don't like happy chapters. 1197 01:44:15,280 --> 01:44:17,248 They've lulled me back to sleep. 1198 01:44:17,248 --> 01:44:21,116 They suggest that somebody somewhere somehow is handling it. 1199 01:44:21,786 --> 01:44:23,617 I can just go on with my life. 1200 01:44:24,122 --> 01:44:28,821 And hey, we've got thirty years or so, right? That's lots of time. 1201 01:44:30,228 --> 01:44:33,026 I'm sorry, folks, but I think time's up. 1202 01:44:34,032 --> 01:44:36,660 I have no happy chapter to offer you. 1203 01:44:37,268 --> 01:44:39,668 No list of quick and painless fixes. 1204 01:44:40,872 --> 01:44:44,672 No plan that will keep the train rolling forever on this track. 1205 01:44:45,310 --> 01:44:47,801 I see no way for that to happen. 1206 01:44:48,847 --> 01:44:54,342 If there is going to be a happy chapter, we shall have to write it together, 1207 01:44:55,487 --> 01:45:01,949 with the rest of the community of life, on the pages of the living world. 1208 01:45:02,894 --> 01:45:06,131 I sometimes have dreams about my grandchildren coming also. 1209 01:45:06,131 --> 01:45:08,466 And these dreams sometimes turn unpleasant. 1210 01:45:08,466 --> 01:45:12,771 Because the grandchildren come and they come from a North Carolina and from a California 1211 01:45:12,771 --> 01:45:15,573 that is polluted, the air they can't breathe. 1212 01:45:15,573 --> 01:45:18,843 And they say, "Granddad, did you let that happen?" 1213 01:45:18,843 --> 01:45:20,712 And they're angry when they get there. 1214 01:45:20,712 --> 01:45:24,204 I think they're going to look back and shake their heads and say, 1215 01:45:26,151 --> 01:45:28,381 'what happened to those people? 1216 01:45:28,887 --> 01:45:33,290 How did they lose sight of such basic things?" 1217 01:45:44,769 --> 01:45:50,608 There is a new story arising in the world.: the story of the Great Turning, 1218 01:45:50,608 --> 01:45:58,982 the turning away from a culture of domination and death, and the turning toward a culture that is life-sustaining and life-renewing. 1219 01:45:59,651 --> 01:46:03,382 All over the planet, people are now telling this story. 1220 01:46:03,988 --> 01:46:08,948 The Buddhist scholar and deep ecologist Joanna Macy tells this story in her workshops. 1221 01:46:09,727 --> 01:46:14,130 The writer and activist David Korten tells it in his book by the same name. 1222 01:46:14,599 --> 01:46:19,559 It's a story to be told by our descendents, looking back on this present time. 1223 01:46:20,805 --> 01:46:24,609 Will we be the monsters of our great- grandchildren's nightmares? 1224 01:46:24,609 --> 01:46:33,677 Or will we walk, as the story of the Great Turning says, as heroes and healers in the epic poetry of those still-unborn voices? 1225 01:46:34,385 --> 01:46:38,323 Will we be reviled for our entitled, destructive ways? 1226 01:46:38,323 --> 01:46:42,160 Or will we be lovingly remembered in the songs of our descendents 1227 01:46:42,160 --> 01:46:48,066 as they recount the story of this lost and very wounded tribe that stepped back from the abyss 1228 01:46:48,066 --> 01:46:51,365 and found its way home to the community of living souls? 1229 01:46:53,204 --> 01:46:54,466 We get to choose. 1230 01:46:56,174 --> 01:46:58,165 Who are we going to be? 1231 01:47:00,011 --> 01:47:03,982 Part of me still wishes that someone would just take care of it, you know. 1232 01:47:03,982 --> 01:47:08,753 That it's their job. That's what we pay them for. 1233 01:47:08,753 --> 01:47:11,313 They're supposed to be the wise parents of us. 1234 01:47:12,090 --> 01:47:18,654 it's going to come as a really rude awakening when people realize that a) they can't and b) they won't. 1235 01:47:19,364 --> 01:47:29,103 I don't think life for most Americans, despite our affluence, is all that it's been cracked up to be. 1236 01:47:29,507 --> 01:47:32,374 And people are afraid to talk about that. 1237 01:47:33,845 --> 01:47:39,083 they're afraid they're the only ones that are experiencing deep dissatisfaction. 1238 01:47:39,083 --> 01:47:41,419 it's really so sad, you know. 1239 01:47:41,419 --> 01:47:46,291 You look at - and particularly American culture is emblematic of this - 1240 01:47:46,291 --> 01:47:51,829 go to a typical shopping mall and look at the people around you and the environment around you. 1241 01:47:51,829 --> 01:48:01,170 And the utter shallowness and hopelessness of it all is profoundly depressing. 1242 01:48:07,779 --> 01:48:08,643 Look. 1243 01:48:09,414 --> 01:48:10,779 Is this who are we? 1244 01:48:11,316 --> 01:48:15,685 Consumers? Shoppers? Workers? Voters? 1245 01:48:16,321 --> 01:48:21,782 Does our identity lie in Nielsen numbers and box office receipts and the Gross Domestic Product? 1246 01:48:22,193 --> 01:48:26,664 Are we on this Earth to sell cheeseburgers to each other and yell at our children 1247 01:48:26,664 --> 01:48:30,600 and drive around in clown cars and fall asleep in front of the tube? 1248 01:48:31,035 --> 01:48:37,838 Are we destroying the planet, as Dmitry Orlov asks, just "to be somewhat more comfortable for a little while"? 1249 01:48:38,943 --> 01:48:43,903 I keep having to remind myself.: this culture is not humanity. 1250 01:48:44,616 --> 01:48:49,520 It is only one culture out of the tens of thousands that used to exist on this planet. 1251 01:48:49,520 --> 01:48:53,012 Only one culture out of the many that are still hanging on. 1252 01:48:53,558 --> 01:48:59,530 That it has overrun the world means nothing about its rightness, its greatness, or its destiny. 1253 01:48:59,530 --> 01:49:04,535 It means only that we live in a system of social evolution that selects for short-term power 1254 01:49:04,535 --> 01:49:10,303 rather than for compassion, or for sanity, or for long-term survival. 1255 01:49:12,143 --> 01:49:15,510 I think we are much more than we've ever been allowed to believe. 1256 01:49:16,948 --> 01:49:24,150 Denied the connection and meaning that nourishes us, we've grown small and stunted in the shallow soil of this culture. 1257 01:49:24,989 --> 01:49:28,447 It's time to revitalize that ground of our being. 1258 01:49:30,695 --> 01:49:38,002 What really is important, and what adds value and what adds... you know. . . 1259 01:49:38,002 --> 01:49:40,869 what does a life well-lived look like? 1260 01:49:41,572 --> 01:49:49,638 Humans have a history of living much more in touch with the natural world, with the planet. 1261 01:49:50,148 --> 01:49:54,608 Much more sustainable. 1262 01:49:55,353 --> 01:49:56,843 Much more spiritual. 1263 01:49:57,555 --> 01:49:58,954 Much more communal. 1264 01:49:59,624 --> 01:50:00,892 That's who we are. 1265 01:50:00,892 --> 01:50:05,386 As all of this starts to shift and change and disintegrate and collapse, 1266 01:50:06,164 --> 01:50:10,435 there's the opportunity, in fact, to come back to ourselves. 1267 01:50:10,435 --> 01:50:16,032 To grow up, fundamentally, as people and as a culture. 1268 01:50:18,509 --> 01:50:20,909 We're in a time of initiation, folks. 1269 01:50:21,512 --> 01:50:27,747 A mass initiation at the level of culture itself. A vision quest for the collective mind. 1270 01:50:28,653 --> 01:50:33,658 this culture's arrogance, its adolescent sense of invincibility and entitlement, 1271 01:50:33,658 --> 01:50:42,691 must be sloughed off to make room for a more mature sense of interdependence with, and responsibility to, the community of life. 1272 01:50:43,201 --> 01:50:45,226 this is the work of initiation. 1273 01:50:46,604 --> 01:50:51,871 Stepping into this cultural maturity, we will take our rightful place in the community of life. 1274 01:50:52,276 --> 01:50:55,040 And we will fall back in love with the world. 1275 01:50:55,913 --> 01:50:59,007 We can do this. But only if we choose to. 1276 01:51:00,084 --> 01:51:04,145 Only if we lay down our weapons in this insane war against the world. 1277 01:51:04,789 --> 01:51:09,055 Only if we surrender control and move back into relationship. 1278 01:51:21,672 --> 01:51:24,675 You want unlimited growth? You can have it. 1279 01:51:24,675 --> 01:51:26,643 All you've ever wished for and more. 1280 01:51:27,178 --> 01:51:33,378 Growth in relationship and experience. In self-awareness and spirit and love and community and connection. 1281 01:51:33,851 --> 01:51:37,343 Growth in purpose and meaning. Growth in vision. 1282 01:51:38,389 --> 01:51:44,562 When we step back into the community of life, we will find out immediately what has always been true.: 1283 01:51:44,562 --> 01:51:46,792 all of life's on our side. 1284 01:51:47,532 --> 01:51:50,935 We'll have polar bears on our team. And elm trees. 1285 01:51:50,935 --> 01:51:54,427 And condors and salmon and dragonflies and plankton. 1286 01:51:55,006 --> 01:52:00,239 We'll walk with the wind and the water, with mountains underfoot and stars overhead. 1287 01:52:00,778 --> 01:52:06,341 The tiger's blood will course through our veins. The horse's breath will fill our lungs. 1288 01:52:06,884 --> 01:52:13,187 We'll be more connected to real power than we've ever dreamt possible in our sick fantasy of domination. 1289 01:52:13,958 --> 01:52:16,859 "Power with." Not "power over." 1290 01:52:17,428 --> 01:52:22,832 The power of a species that has passed through initiation and into maturity. 1291 01:52:26,671 --> 01:52:30,038 I think we need to look at what is it we want 1292 01:52:30,908 --> 01:52:35,446 and see if civilization as we've created it is giving us that. 1293 01:52:35,446 --> 01:52:38,549 And if it's not, what might give us that? 1294 01:52:38,549 --> 01:52:40,484 What does it mean to dismantle civilization? 1295 01:52:40,484 --> 01:52:45,615 What it means is depriving the rich of the ability to steal from the poor and to destroy the world. 1296 01:52:46,224 --> 01:52:48,226 I can't give a better definition than that. 1297 01:52:48,226 --> 01:52:57,101 There's no real reason why the entire country of the United States couldn't face reality. 1298 01:52:57,101 --> 01:53:00,571 You just have to drop the idea of capitalism. 1299 01:53:00,571 --> 01:53:06,110 You have to drop the idea of corporations running things. 1300 01:53:06,110 --> 01:53:09,238 You have to drop the idea of economic growth. 1301 01:53:10,348 --> 01:53:12,373 It could be done. it could be done. 1302 01:53:15,553 --> 01:53:21,626 There was a great tradition among the Cheyenne dog soldiers called the picket pin and stake. 1303 01:53:21,626 --> 01:53:26,864 they would get a tanned rope, called a dog rope, and a picket pin, 1304 01:53:26,864 --> 01:53:34,972 that's used to stake horses to the ground, and they would attach the picket pin to the sash, 1305 01:53:34,972 --> 01:53:37,975 the dog rope that was attached to them. 1306 01:53:37,975 --> 01:53:41,913 And then in battle they would drive the picket stake into the ground. 1307 01:53:41,913 --> 01:53:46,417 And that was done as a mark of resolve. Because once it's driven, you can't leave 1308 01:53:46,417 --> 01:53:53,557 until either you're dead, or you're relieved by another dog soldier, or the battle's over and everyone is safe. 1309 01:53:53,557 --> 01:53:57,194 so the question i ask people is, you know, at what point, 1310 01:53:57,194 --> 01:53:59,219 you know, where will you drive your picket pin? 1311 01:53:59,931 --> 01:54:03,264 Where will you stake yourself out and say "i'm not going to retreat any more"? 1312 01:54:15,813 --> 01:54:18,077 Our descendents are watching us. 1313 01:54:18,916 --> 01:54:20,440 How will we be? 1314 01:54:22,019 --> 01:54:26,979 It's time to be thoughtful, coming together to learn about the world as it really is. 1315 01:54:27,658 --> 01:54:31,062 Reading between the lies. Doing the math. 1316 01:54:31,062 --> 01:54:33,053 Studying the world situation. 1317 01:54:33,864 --> 01:54:35,593 There will be a quiz. 1318 01:54:36,634 --> 01:54:41,901 A paradigm shift will require that we question our deepest and most fundamental assumptions. 1319 01:54:42,573 --> 01:54:49,877 And that will require that we take our current worldview gently in our arms and hold it while it breathes its last. 1320 01:54:51,882 --> 01:54:55,453 Step into a new story. Walk away from the pyramids. 1321 01:54:55,453 --> 01:54:59,287 Get out of the crumbling building. Break out of prison. 1322 01:55:00,024 --> 01:55:04,984 Choose your favorite metaphor. Choose your own adventure. But choose. 1323 01:55:06,297 --> 01:55:08,632 It's time to be truthful. 1324 01:55:08,632 --> 01:55:16,741 Millions of sensual pulsing animal bodies are now living trapped and used and starved in cities and cubicles 1325 01:55:16,741 --> 01:55:22,805 and sweatshops and food courts and traffic jams and suburbs and public school classrooms. 1326 01:55:23,614 --> 01:55:27,380 People who are not rich and white already know this. 1327 01:55:28,119 --> 01:55:32,613 What would happen if we let ourselves feel our feelings about all of this? 1328 01:55:33,457 --> 01:55:37,359 The entire community of life on this planet is now being threatened. 1329 01:55:38,562 --> 01:55:43,329 Where do we stick our picket pins? Where do we take a stand? 1330 01:55:44,035 --> 01:55:48,199 When do we find the courage to let ourselves feel what's going on? 1331 01:55:49,373 --> 01:55:54,333 Our feelings are the swiftest path back to our forgotten selves. 1332 01:55:55,880 --> 01:55:57,939 It's time to be open and humble. 1333 01:55:58,682 --> 01:56:05,087 There are huge forces at work in the world, both seen and unseen. It's time to ask for help. 1334 01:56:06,023 --> 01:56:11,689 Ask the ancestors. Ask the gods. Ask your God. 1335 01:56:12,363 --> 01:56:18,165 Go outside and lie down on the Earth and ask the land, and the sky, and the life of this place. 1336 01:56:19,537 --> 01:56:21,732 And then listen for a response. 1337 01:56:22,773 --> 01:56:28,746 Listen to the voices of soil and stone, wind and water, the voices of cirrus clouds 1338 01:56:28,746 --> 01:56:33,884 and chickadees, of red squirrels and wood beetles and Russian olives and hickories. 1339 01:56:33,884 --> 01:56:40,483 The world will tell us what it knows, if only we will be still. And listen. 1340 01:56:41,525 --> 01:56:42,685 And then speak. 1341 01:56:43,494 --> 01:56:46,827 It's time to show up in our own lives and tell the truth. 1342 01:56:47,431 --> 01:56:51,367 It's time to talk about the world situation with everyone we see. 1343 01:56:52,002 --> 01:56:58,237 We're all in this together. What a relief it'll be, to discover that we are not alone. 1344 01:56:59,977 --> 01:57:02,913 It's time to act with great intention. 1345 01:57:02,913 --> 01:57:08,486 There is work aplenty to do in this weary world, and people engaged in that work. 1346 01:57:08,486 --> 01:57:11,080 Find those people. Join in. 1347 01:57:11,689 --> 01:57:16,786 Save rivers and stop bulldozers and stand up at city council meetings to tell your truth. 1348 01:57:17,328 --> 01:57:20,431 Share skills. Evolve local communities. 1349 01:57:20,431 --> 01:57:26,836 Move from agriculture to permaculture and grow your own food. Learn about medicinal herbs. 1350 01:57:27,505 --> 01:57:34,673 As Derrick Jensen says, "we need it all." Find your work, and do it. It's time. 1351 01:57:35,813 --> 01:57:37,940 But what about that speeding train? 1352 01:57:38,949 --> 01:57:41,918 How will the Great Turning turn? 1353 01:57:43,053 --> 01:57:49,226 We can wait for the train to crash on its own and hope that it doesn't kill us, and everything else. 1354 01:57:49,226 --> 01:57:54,598 But with the children grown, perhaps we can come together and decide to dismantle, 1355 01:57:54,598 --> 01:57:57,101 joyfully and with conscious intent, 1356 01:57:57,101 --> 01:58:02,368 the rusty and dangerous old swing-set of a culture that no longer serves us. 1357 01:58:03,207 --> 01:58:05,609 this may seem an impossible task. 1358 01:58:05,609 --> 01:58:10,103 But if the alternative is extinction, then we have nothing to lose. 1359 01:58:11,282 --> 01:58:16,153 We humans once knew how to live on this planet. A few still do. 1360 01:58:16,153 --> 01:58:20,487 And that's the good news. It can be done. 1361 01:58:21,258 --> 01:58:24,455 We can do way, way better than Empire. 1362 01:58:35,706 --> 01:58:38,402 Let's jump off the train and build a boat. 1363 01:58:38,876 --> 01:58:44,439 The train is constrained to rigid tracks and its momentum makes it almost impossible to steer. 1364 01:58:44,915 --> 01:58:48,851 But the boat? Ah, the boat is a very different thing. 1365 01:58:49,320 --> 01:58:54,121 Boats set sail into the unknown, subject only to wind and wave and weather. 1366 01:58:54,892 --> 01:59:00,558 Boats can be lifeboats, preserving wisdom and understanding while the storm rages overhead. 1367 01:59:01,098 --> 01:59:06,058 Boats can be arks, safeguarding the life of the world as the floodwaters rise. 1368 01:59:06,837 --> 01:59:16,576 And boats can carry us into adventure, away from the shores of the current paradigm and to those unseen shores of a future not yet written. 1369 01:59:17,181 --> 01:59:19,917 find your people and build a boat. 1370 01:59:19,917 --> 01:59:24,980 Build a local community to serve the world and preserve the life of a piece of land. 1371 01:59:25,522 --> 01:59:33,520 Or set sail in the wider world, interrupting the destruction, healing the wounds, crafting connections and changing minds. 1372 01:59:34,064 --> 01:59:37,835 Build a boat. A lifeboat. An ark. 1373 01:59:37,835 --> 01:59:42,670 A galleon of adventure and imagination destined for unknown lands. 1374 01:59:43,607 --> 01:59:44,904 Build it now. 1375 01:59:45,709 --> 01:59:47,176 The ice is melting. 1376 01:59:48,145 --> 01:59:50,079 The waters are rising. 1377 01:59:51,582 --> 01:59:54,449 We're going to have to let go of the shore. 1378 01:59:55,653 --> 02:00:00,057 I do not know if I will survive the crash of industrial civilization 1379 02:00:00,057 --> 02:00:04,255 or the impacts of the climate change that that civilization has unleashed. 1380 02:00:05,062 --> 02:00:09,658 I do know this.: I have a choice about how I meet it. 1381 02:00:10,167 --> 02:00:12,032 I have a choice. 1382 02:00:12,636 --> 02:00:14,194 We have a choice. 1383 02:00:15,205 --> 02:00:22,446 I can meet it with a burger in my hand, a French fry in my mouth, and a cold drink spilling onto my jeans. 1384 02:00:22,446 --> 02:00:28,316 Or I can meet it with consciousness, integrity, and the sense of purpose that is my birthright. 1385 02:00:29,320 --> 02:00:36,026 I can meet it on the far side of initiation, a mature and related member of the community of life, 1386 02:00:36,026 --> 02:00:41,589 standing tall, doing my best to protect and serve this Earth that I love. 1387 02:00:42,966 --> 02:00:44,866 this is the course I've chosen. 1388 02:00:45,235 --> 02:00:47,032 this is my picket pin.: 1389 02:00:47,638 --> 02:00:51,074 I will show up and I will tell my truth. 1390 02:00:52,242 --> 02:00:56,576 But it's hard to sail alone, when the seas rage so fiercely. 1391 02:00:57,448 --> 02:01:01,509 If you sail with me, we shall both be made stronger. 1392 02:01:01,885 --> 02:01:06,288 And when others join us, then our crew will be made strong indeed. 1393 02:01:07,958 --> 02:01:11,860 Together, we will set forth, to find that new land. 1394 02:01:13,997 --> 02:01:16,363 What a way to go. . . 1395 02:01:17,000 --> 02:01:18,627 // Let's build a boat // 1396 02:01:20,404 --> 02:01:22,565 // In case the waters rise // 1397 02:01:23,474 --> 02:01:24,941 // Let's build a boat // 1398 02:01:27,344 --> 02:01:29,980 // Clouds they gather in the skies // 1399 02:01:29,980 --> 02:01:31,447 // Let's build a boat // 1400 02:01:33,350 --> 02:01:35,944 // For when the storm comes // 1401 02:01:36,320 --> 02:01:37,787 // Let's build a boat // 1402 02:01:39,390 --> 02:01:42,257 // For when the rain it beat like drums // 1403 02:01:42,593 --> 02:01:45,729 // Oh the levee will get pounded // 1404 02:01:45,729 --> 02:01:49,533 // Now the people are out having fun // 1405 02:01:49,533 --> 02:01:52,469 // Someday our work will pay off // 1406 02:01:52,469 --> 02:01:55,706 // We will float others will be overcome // 1407 02:01:55,706 --> 02:01:57,901 // But you can't outrun the water // 1408 02:01:58,709 --> 02:02:02,008 // Oh you can't outrun the water // 1409 02:02:02,379 --> 02:02:07,510 // You can't outrun the water // 1410 02:02:08,185 --> 02:02:09,652 // Let's build a boat // 1411 02:02:46,523 --> 02:02:47,990 // Let's build a boat // 1412 02:02:49,827 --> 02:02:52,762 // Take me to the other slde // 1413 02:02:53,130 --> 02:02:54,597 // Let's build a boat // 1414 02:02:55,466 --> 02:02:59,203 // Be forewarned this is no easy ride // 1415 02:02:59,203 --> 02:03:01,000 // Let's build a boat // 1416 02:03:02,706 --> 02:03:05,809 // Big enough for all of us // 1417 02:03:05,809 --> 02:03:07,276 // Let's build a boat // 1418 02:03:09,012 --> 02:03:10,614 // One that's good enough // 1419 02:03:10,614 --> 02:03:12,349 // One that we can trust // 1420 02:03:12,349 --> 02:03:15,419 // Oh the levee will get pounded // 1421 02:03:15,419 --> 02:03:18,445 // Oh the people are out having fun // 1422 02:03:19,089 --> 02:03:21,992 // Someday our work will pay off // 1423 02:03:21,992 --> 02:03:25,128 // We will float others will be overcome // 1424 02:03:25,128 --> 02:03:27,323 // But you can't outrun the water // 1425 02:03:28,265 --> 02:03:31,564 // Oh you can't outrun the water // 1426 02:03:31,902 --> 02:03:37,033 // You can't outrun the water // 1427 02:03:37,908 --> 02:03:39,375 // Let's build a boat //