0:00:09.780,0:00:13.840 [Marcel Dzama: Organizing Chaos] 0:00:25.360,0:00:27.200 So these costumes are quite old. 0:00:27.200,0:00:27.940 [LAUGHS] 0:00:32.500,0:00:34.640 This one was just a halloween costume. 0:00:34.640,0:00:35.140 [LAUGHS] 0:00:44.280,0:00:46.100 I guess I have a hoarder tendency. 0:00:47.460,0:00:51.040 That was the one thing I didn’t adapt to[br]in being a New Yorker, 0:00:51.050,0:00:57.000 to get rid of things as quickly[br]as your small apartment allows. 0:01:07.060,0:01:09.540 I'm originally from Winnipeg, Canada. 0:01:10.020,0:01:14.220 The winters are quite cold,[br]and last for almost half the year. 0:01:14.760,0:01:16.830 It’s hard to get together to socialize 0:01:16.830,0:01:22.500 because there's this barrier of weather[br]that keeps you isolated. 0:01:24.420,0:01:27.380 I used to color a lot as a kid. 0:01:30.620,0:01:33.520 I would draw a lot of Universal monsters. 0:01:33.520,0:01:36.540 Any of those characters[br]like The Wolfman and Dracula. 0:01:41.220,0:01:44.240 And then created my own world[br]to have something to do. 0:01:53.460,0:01:56.520 The thing with living in Winnipeg is,[br]especially in the winter, 0:01:56.520,0:01:59.990 the horizon and the land just kind of...[br]they just dissolved into each other. 0:01:59.990,0:02:03.190 So you would see this,[br]almost like a blank page. 0:02:03.190,0:02:07.871 And if someone would walk into it,[br]it would look like a blank piece of paper 0:02:07.871,0:02:08.871 with a figure. 0:02:08.880,0:02:13.760 And so I think that really[br]subconsciously influenced my style. 0:02:19.310,0:02:22.640 When I was in art school,[br]I was still living in my parents' place. 0:02:22.650,0:02:27.910 I did have quite a bit of larger works[br]on board from my grandfather's farm. 0:02:27.910,0:02:29.350 He took apart a barn 0:02:29.350,0:02:33.800 and I used a lot of the panels from that[br]and painted on it with house paint. 0:02:35.720,0:02:37.100 Then there was a house fire. 0:02:39.580,0:02:43.300 I basically lost all of my work from the past 0:02:43.300,0:02:45.680 and most of my possessions. 0:02:46.940,0:02:51.019 So, I started drawing on hotel stationery 0:02:51.019,0:02:54.350 and that ended up being my thesis. 0:02:54.350,0:02:56.380 ["The Royal Art Lodge" collaborative work] 0:03:00.900,0:03:03.680 Those were the works that[br]I would start to get known for, 0:03:03.680,0:03:08.980 this isolated background[br]with just a few figures. 0:03:12.400,0:03:16.560 After the house fire there was[br]this real feeling of loss. 0:03:16.560,0:03:19.940 But, on the other hand,[br]there was also this possibility-- 0:03:19.940,0:03:24.500 and, in some ways, also made it easier[br]to move to New York. 0:03:34.480,0:03:38.540 I used to have more of a red and brown palette. 0:03:38.540,0:03:41.360 I'm definitely going through a blue period. 0:03:46.280,0:03:51.060 I did some political work in the Bush years,[br]during the Iraq war. 0:03:51.060,0:03:53.880 In Trump years, I kind of felt like, 0:03:53.880,0:03:59.070 to go to sleep, I needed this exorcism of[br]the news media that I had taken in that day. 0:03:59.070,0:04:01.000 So I needed to get it out. 0:04:09.940,0:04:16.940 --I included the Dada image because[br]they had the disgust of World War I. 0:04:17.420,0:04:23.260 --So I thought it was good timing for the[br]disgust of what’s going on right now [LAUGHS] 0:04:23.260,0:04:25.420 --in our political age. 0:04:26.140,0:04:29.400 --I think it's gotten me in a[br]bit of a downward spiral. 0:04:32.120,0:04:35.300 After the Sandy Hook shooting,[br]I stopped drawing guns. 0:04:35.300,0:04:38.670 And then once Trump got in, I felt like it, 0:04:38.670,0:04:43.680 as some sort of resistance symbol,[br]I brought it back. 0:04:44.780,0:04:47.000 The revolution is going to be female. 0:04:52.860,0:04:53.820 --Switch it up. 0:05:02.620,0:05:07.700 When I moved to New York,[br]I found the work getting much more claustrophobic. 0:05:07.700,0:05:10.160 I wanted to put some sort of order to it. 0:05:10.160,0:05:15.620 I found these old dance magazines and[br]realized I should put them in dance positions. 0:05:16.980,0:05:20.290 That's how I put some[br]organization to the chaos 0:05:20.290,0:05:22.060 of this claustrophobia. 0:05:28.540,0:05:33.260 I even turned a lot of the creatures[br]into costumes for humans. 0:05:33.260,0:05:36.180 I thought of it more as a stage[br]from that point. 0:05:37.580,0:05:41.360 More of a dance element,[br]kind of almost like a Broadway show. 0:05:51.780,0:05:56.400 This has been a few artists that I like to[br]reference in my work quite a bit. 0:05:56.400,0:06:00.520 Duchamp, Goya, William Blake, Picabia--[br]definitely my heroes. 0:06:00.520,0:06:01.520 [LAUGHS] 0:06:07.420,0:06:11.300 Picabia, had done this ballet,[br]where there was this polka-dotted character. 0:06:11.300,0:06:15.580 That really inspired me to move into[br]more of a polka-dotted direction. 0:06:26.320,0:06:30.080 I did this just after the school shooting[br]in Florida. 0:06:30.090,0:06:33.330 Emma Gonzalez did this really powerful speech 0:06:33.330,0:06:38.580 and Fox News was trying to bring her down[br]with some sort of criticism. 0:06:38.580,0:06:43.600 So, I drew this group of[br]conspiracy theory people 0:06:43.600,0:06:46.320 and this circus surrounding this young lady. 0:06:53.160,0:06:55.380 I start quite late in the studio. 0:06:57.340,0:07:00.220 The more interesting ideas[br]come out of my work 0:07:00.220,0:07:01.490 in that witching hour. 0:07:01.490,0:07:05.640 I feel that's where that world is set--[br]that I've created. 0:07:09.240,0:07:10.320 There's more of a flow, 0:07:10.320,0:07:16.100 because I have one foot in subconscious[br]and one in reality. 0:07:17.060,0:07:18.860 I try not to censor myself. 0:07:18.860,0:07:22.700 So I just let whatever at the top of my head[br]come out. 0:07:24.310,0:07:26.700 Butterflies have come into the work. 0:07:26.700,0:07:28.440 Moths and different insects. 0:07:30.140,0:07:34.140 I always keep it open to[br]whatever the mood is. 0:07:36.640,0:07:39.680 There's this possibility of[br]anything can happen.