We have all developed this bad habit
that as long as we have a phone or computer next to us,
we will be fully occupied by it.
Once you have the option to use your phone or computer, that's it.
You will definitely choose to use your phone or computer.
Every day, a large part of my works have something to do with the computer.
But to finish my works, it has to be done in a studio.
In our studio, we don't have an Internet connection.
We use phones to play some music, and that's it.
You can't always hold your phone because our hands are dirty from working.
For me it's a really good feeling, kind of like meditation.
Even if your body feels tired, your spirit is totally relaxed.
No one can escape the era they live in.
Especially in China, people are interested in social and politics-related works.
They love discussing politics.
And people enjoy looking at works that have a social meaning.
They feel those works are more profound.
But they forget that political artwork is just one category of many.
I'm not talking about Western galleries or Western artists,
but local artists and galleries and collectors in China.
It's hard for artists from the last generation
to create something without the discussion of politics and social issues.
They can't say, "I just want to be a quiet artist and make what I want."
It's really difficult for that generation of artists
to make this kind of work and to make a living from it.
I think artists like me, who were born in the 1980s,
we start to have the possibility to say:
"Ok, you can be a visual artist"
"and you can make a living this way."
I think this is great.
--Hang on. Lift.
--Slowly, take your hand out, good.
I hope that in China
there could be more art that's different.
Everything an artist does is to express their sense of freedom,
to break our ideas free of the frames that are holding them in.
That is actually what is political.