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We have all developed this bad habit

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that as long as we have a phone
or computer next to us,

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we will be fully occupied by it.

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Once you have the option to use
your phone or computer, that's it.

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You will definitely choose to
use your phone or computer.

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Every day, a large part of my works
have something to do with the computer.

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But to finish my works,
it has to be done in a studio.

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In our studio, we don't
have an Internet connection.

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We use phones to play some music,
and that's it.

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You can't always hold your phone because
our hands are dirty from working.

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For me it's a really good feeling,
kind of like meditation.

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Even if your body feels tired,
your spirit is totally relaxed.

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No one can escape the era they live in.

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Especially in China, people are interested
in social and politics-related works.

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They love discussing politics.

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And people enjoy looking at works
that have a social meaning.

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They feel those works are more profound.

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But they forget that political artwork
is just one category of many.

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I'm not talking about
Western galleries or Western artists,

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but local artists and
galleries and collectors in China.

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It's hard for artists from the last generation

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to create something without
the discussion of politics and social issues.

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They can't say, "I just want to be
a quiet artist and make what I want."

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It's really difficult for that
generation of artists

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to make this kind of work
and to make a living from it.

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I think artists like me,
who were born in the 1980s,

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we start to have the possibility to say:

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"Ok, you can be a visual artist"

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"and you can make a living this way."

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I think this is great.

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--Hang on. Lift.

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--Slowly, take your hand out, good.

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I hope that in China

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there could be more art that's different.

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Everything an artist does is to
express their sense of freedom,

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to break our ideas free of the
frames that are holding them in.

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That is actually what is political.