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We have all developed this bad habit

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that as long as we have a phone[br]or computer next to us,

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we will be fully occupied by it.

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Once you have the option to use[br]your phone or computer, that's it.

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You will definitely choose to[br]use your phone or computer.

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Every day, a large part of my works[br]have something to do with the computer.

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But to finish my works,[br]it has to be done in a studio.

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In our studio, we don't[br]have an Internet connection.

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We use phones to play some music,[br]and that's it.

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You can't always hold your phone because[br]our hands are dirty from working.

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For me it's a really good feeling,[br]kind of like meditation.

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Even if your body feels tired,[br]your spirit is totally relaxed.

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No one can escape the era they live in.

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Especially in China, people are interested[br]in social and politics-related works.

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They love discussing politics.

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And people enjoy looking at works[br]that have a social meaning.

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They feel those works are more profound.

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But they forget that political artwork[br]is just one category of many.

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I'm not talking about[br]Western galleries or Western artists,

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but local artists and[br]galleries and collectors in China.

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It's hard for artists from the last generation

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to create something without[br]the discussion of politics and social issues.

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They can't say, "I just want to be[br]a quiet artist and make what I want."

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It's really difficult for that[br]generation of artists

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to make this kind of work[br]and to make a living from it.

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I think artists like me,[br]who were born in the 1980s,

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we start to have the possibility to say:

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"Ok, you can be a visual artist"

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"and you can make a living this way."

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I think this is great.

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--Hang on. Lift.

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--Slowly, take your hand out, good.

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I hope that in China

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there could be more art that's different.

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Everything an artist does is to[br]express their sense of freedom,

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to break our ideas free of the[br]frames that are holding them in.

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That is actually what is political.