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Thanks for sticking around

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thanks for having a big red X[br]burned into your eyeballs

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for the next three days.

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(Laughter)

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Today I want to talk[br]about the meaning of words,

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how we define them

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and how they, almost as revenge,

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define us.

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The English language[br]is a magnificent sponge.

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I love the English language.[br]I'm glad that I speak it.

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I think you are all lucky[br]to speak it, as well.

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But for all that, it has a lot of holes.

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In Greek, there's a word, "lachesism"

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which is the hunger for disaster.

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You know, when you see[br]a thunderstorm on the horizon

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and you just find yourself[br]rooting for the storm.

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In Mandarin, they have a word "yù yī" --

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I'm not pronouncing that correctly --

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which means the longing[br]to feel intensely again

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the way you did when you were a kid.

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In Polish, they have a word "jouska"

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which is the kind of[br]hypothetical conversation

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that you compulsively[br]play out in your head.

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And finally, in German,[br]of course in German,

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they have a word called "Zielschmerz,"

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which is the dread[br]of getting what you want.

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(Laughter)

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Finally fulfilling a lifelong dream.

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I'm German myself,[br]so I know exactly what that feels like.

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Now, I'm not sure[br]if I would use any of these words

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as I go about my day,

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but I'm really glad they exist.

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But the only reason they exist[br]is because I made them up.

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I am the author of "The Dictionary[br]of Obscure Sorrows,"

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which I've been writing[br]for the last seven years.

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And the whole mission of the project

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is to find holes[br]in the language of emotion

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and try to fill them

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so that we have a way of talking[br]about all those human peccadilloes

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and quirks of the human condition

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that we all feel[br]but may not think to talk about

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because we don't have the words to do it.

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It started watching the end credits[br]of "Saturday Night Live,"

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and I was beset by the most[br]beautiful and haunting melancholy.

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If you ever get a chance[br]to stay up that late,

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I would urge you to watch[br]the end credits of SNL.

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And so, I decided to try[br]to define that emotion.

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And about halfway through this project,

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I defined "sonder,"

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the idea that we all think of ourselves[br]as the main character

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and everyone else is just extras.

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But in reality,[br]we're all the main character,

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and you yourself are an extra[br]in someone else's story.

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And so as soon as I published that,

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I got a lot of response from people

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saying "thank you for giving voice[br]to something I had felt all my life

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but there was no word for that."

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So it made them feel less alone.

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That's the power of words,

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to make us feel less alone.

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And it was not long after that

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that I started to notice sonder

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being used earnestly[br]in conversations online,

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and not long after I actually noticed it,

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I caught it next to me[br]in an actual conversation in person.

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There is no stranger feeling[br]than making up a word

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and then seeing it[br]take on a mind of its own.

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I don't have a word[br]for that yet, but I will.

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(Laughter)

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I'm working on it.

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I started to think[br]about what makes words real,

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because a lot of people ask me,

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the most common thing[br]I got from people is,

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"Well, are these words made up?[br]I don't really understand."

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And I didn't really know what to tell them

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because once sonder started to take off,

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who am I to say what words[br]are real and what aren't.

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And so I sort of felt like Steve Jobs,[br]who described his epiphany

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as when he realized that most of us,[br]as we go through the day,

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we just try to avoid[br]bouncing against the walls too much

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and just sort of get on with things.

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But once you realize that people --

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that this world was built[br]by people no smarter than you,

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then you can reach out[br]and touch those walls

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and even put your hand through them

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and realize that you have[br]the power to change it.

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It's phenomenal.

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So I think from there,[br]that changed how I look at words

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and what makes words real.

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And when people ask me,[br]"Are these words real?"

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I had a variety of answers[br]that I tried out.

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Some of them made sense.[br]Some of them didn't,

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but one of them I tried out was,

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"Well, a word is real[br]if you want it to be real."

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The way that this path is real[br]because people wanted it to be there.

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(Laughter)

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It happens on college[br]campuses all the time.

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It's called a "desire path."

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(Laughter)

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And so, languages[br]are a reflection of desire

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something that they want to be there.

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And it may be the road less traveled,

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but it will get there eventually.

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But that's not really a satisfying answer,

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so I gave up on that one.

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But then I decided,[br]what people are really asking

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when they're asking if a word is real,[br]they're really asking,

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"Well, how many brains[br]will this give me access to?"

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Because I think that's[br]a lot of how we look at language.

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A word is essentially a key

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that gets us into certain people's heads,

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and if it gets us into one brain,

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it's not really worth it,

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not really worth knowing.

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Two brains, eh, it depends on who it is.

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A million brains, OK, now we're talking.

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And so a real word is one that gets you[br]access to as many brains as you can.

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That's what makes it worth knowing.

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Incidentally, the realest word of all[br]by this measure is this.

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[O.K.]

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That's it.

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The realest word we have.

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That is the closest thing we have[br]to a master key.

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That's the most commonly[br]understood word in the world,

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no matter where you are.

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The problem with that is,

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no one seems to know[br]what those two letters stand for.

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(Laughter)

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Which is kind of weird, right?

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I mean, it could be a misspelling[br]of "all correct," I guess,

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or "old kinderhook."

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No one really seems to know,[br]but the fact that it doesn't matter

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says something about[br]how we add meaning to words.

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The meaning is not[br]in the words themselves.

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We're the ones[br]that pour ourselves into it.

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And I think, when we're all searching[br]for meaning in our lives,

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and searching for the meaning of life,

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I think words have[br]something to do with that.

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And I think if you're looking[br]for the meaning of something,

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the dictionary is a decent place to start.

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I saw an interview with[br]the religious scholar Reza Aslan.

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He was describing a misunderstanding

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that many people have about religion.

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He said that what a religion is

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is basically a set of[br]symbols and metaphors

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that people pour themselves into

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to try to express something inexpressible.

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Religion is essentially just a language.

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That's all it is.

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It's a container for whatever[br]meanings we bring to it.

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And that got me thinking ...

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What if language was a kind of religion.

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That would mean that this[br]is basically our holy book.

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And if you think of the creation story,

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it's really more of a definition story.

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In the beginning, there was chaos[br]upon the waters of the Earth

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and then God separated[br]the land from the sea,

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the fish from the birds, man from woman,

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the eternal from the ephemeral.

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That's all in these pages.

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That's what a definition is.

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And so, if we're looking[br]for meaning in the world,

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this is our faith, this is our holy book.

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Because the reality is,

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and the point of this holy book,

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and the point of, I think, all holy books,

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is that it brings a sense of order

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to a very chaotic universe.

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Our view of things is so limited

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and the universe is so complicated

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that we have to come up[br]with patterns and shorthands

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and try to figure out[br]a way to interpret it

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and be able to get on with our day.

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And that's why we need words to do that,

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to give meaning to our lives.

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But even more than that,

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we need words to contain us,[br]to define ourselves.

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And that is, I think, a lot[br]of how we use words right now,

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we're all sort of begging[br]to be defined, in certain ways.

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And I think especially now,[br]with technology and globalization,

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it's so easy to get lost in the fog.

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Each of us is undefined, in a way,

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and the world is becoming[br]ever more undefined.

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And so, I think a lot[br]of the structures that we look to

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to try to contain ourselves

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look like this.

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Both in the sense[br]of "pound" and "hashtag."

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(Laughter)

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It's trying to box ourselves in[br]in certain ways

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and say, to look for certain entries[br]and certain categories

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and say, "Yes, that's me."

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What we do is look at other people

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and say, "You're like me ...

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And so, we are an 'us'."

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And that gives us meaning.

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That's just a way of borrowing meaning.

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The problem is that a lot of that[br]depends on institutions

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and there are so many of us now,

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and life is now so complicated and chaotic

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that we have to wall ourselves off.

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We're becoming[br]fundamentalists in our faith.

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Literalists.

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Because we all feel these categories[br]start to fall apart.

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Have you noticed how many[br]of our conversations now

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are about the definitions of words?

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I don't know how many times I've seen[br]a conversation on the Huffington Post

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that starts "Are you a feminist?"

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"What does 'feminist' mean?"

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"Who on this debate stage[br]is the real progressive?"

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"What does 'socialist' mean?"

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"Who is a 'fascist'?"

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"Who is a 'woman'?"

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Caitlyn Jenner.

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"Who is 'black'?" Rachel Dolezal.

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These are the kind of conversations[br]we have all the time,

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but they're not really about meaning.

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They're about how we package the world.

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And so, I think the end result

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is that we end up[br]looking something like this,

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where we allow words to define us.

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We forget that all words are made up.

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They're just models of how the world[br]could be or should be,

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and so, we're all withdrawing[br]in our own communities of concern,

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speaking in our own languages

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when in fact, the world is more than that.

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I think all of us feel

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that the categories that we use[br]to give our lives meaning

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don't necessarily fit us all that well.

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And so, we have to explain to people that,

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that, "Yes, I subscribe to this,

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but that doesn't define me.

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We have to keep doing this over and over,

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negotiating how we fit[br]into the categories that we have.

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I think a lot of us feel boxed in

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by how we use these words.

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We forget that words are made up.

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It's not just my words.[br]All words are made up,

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but not all of them mean something.

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And so I think what I'd like to --

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The image I have of where we are today,

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I think of Anne Frank.

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Because she was in her little[br]apartment in Amsterdam

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and in a time when everyone around her

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was trying to organize humanity

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in a way that made sense[br]with clean lines and brutal efficiency,

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she was on the inside,[br]organizing her own humanity.

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I think there's something[br]really beautiful about that,

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because a lot of it was[br]about her own confusion

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and her own vulnerability.

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And I think that's why we need[br]a new kind of language

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that looks a little more like this.

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Because each of us could be anyone.

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At any given time,[br]we are not just one person,

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we are many people at once.

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And so, we have to get more in line[br]with how the world actually is,

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not to get too caught up in the models[br]that we've imposed on the world.

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GPS devices tend to warn you,

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reminding you that the map you see[br]is not the real world,

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so don't run into a lake.

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(Laughter)

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And I think we need the same reminder,

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that the map is not the real world

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and so if we run into these problems,

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we have an option[br]to define things for ourself;

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we don't necessarily[br]just have to borrow the meanings

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that give meaning to our lives.

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It is possible --

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and I know this because[br]I've been doing it the last seven years --

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to come up with new metaphors

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that make the invisible visible.

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There's something[br]really beautiful about that.

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And I think if we got[br]in a better relationship with chaos,

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if we stopped trying to oversimplify

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the interior storm[br]that all of us are facing

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and the confusion and the vulnerability,

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and how complicated the world really is,

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then we could feel[br]a little more comfortable in our skin

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and we wouldn't have to withdraw

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within the categories[br]that we allow to define us.

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And we could take the power[br]back from our words

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and define them.

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I think that's a little more[br]healthy relationship.

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I don't know how many conversations[br]would be benefited by someone --

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Like the game Catch Phrase,

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where you're given[br]the actual topic you're talking about,

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so the challenge is,[br]"Don't say that word."

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I think if we all did that,[br]we would be a little better off.

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Because it would allow[br]certain lexical fluidity

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that I think we're losing now.

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We're all just sort of[br]trapped in our own lexicons

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that don't necessarily correlate[br]with people who aren't already like us,

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and so I think I feel us drifting apart[br]a little more every year,

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the more seriously we take words.

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Because remember, words are not real.

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They don't have meaning. We do.

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I think it's important to remember that.

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And if we took some sense[br]of creativity and authorship

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in inventing who we are,

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that is possible.

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It is possible to try to reach[br]for richer metaphors.

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This world has never been as complicated,

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and our lives have never been[br]more complicated than they are right now.

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And so, instead of reaching[br]for the nearest standardized word,

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or just begging to be[br]diagnosed with something,

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it is worth actually being present,

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in sadness, for example.

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In the chaos of emotion.

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I think that's worth doing.

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I think we need new lenses

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to help contextualize the chaos[br]that we face all the time.

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And if we do that,

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if each of us is willing[br]to actually define who it is we are

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with some sense of creativity,

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I think the world could look[br]a little more like this.

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Really messy.

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I think we are really messy people

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and the world is a really messy world.

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And I think this would not be so bad,

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us pouring out of these institutions,

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which are weakening all the time,

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and meeting each other as we are,

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in all our vulnerability,

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wearing our emotions on our sleeves.

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And I think,

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as messy as it is,

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it would be a little more[br]fulfilling to do that.

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And I'd like to leave you with a reading

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from one of my favorite philosophers,

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Bill Watterson, who created[br]"Calvin and Hobbes."

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He said,

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"Creating a life that reflects[br]your values and satisfies your soul

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is a rare achievement.

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To invent your own life's meaning

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is not easy,

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but it is still allowed,

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and I think you'll be[br]happier for the trouble."

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Thank you.

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(Applause)