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Eu sou Amy Goodman, apresentadora.

Vamos para as notícas do Vaticano,
onde o Papa Francisco convocou uma

ação para salvar o planeta
da ruína ambiental

pedindo aos líderes mundias
que escutem

o "choro" da Terra e o "choro"
dos pobres.

Mais cedo, o Vaticano

publicou a tão esperada encíclica papal
sobre

meio ambiente e mudanças climáticas.

O papa pediu uma

mudança no estilo de vida
e países ricos

joguem fora a cultura do
consumismo

e parem com atitudes que
muitas vezes

colocam o lucro acima do bem
comum.

Nossa casa vai ruir

e isso prejudica a todos

especialmente os mais pobres

o meu é, portanto,
um apelo para a responsabilidade,

baseado no passado,

que Deus deu para todas
as criaturas

manterem o jardim

onde vivem.

very strong into journey

delays half measures

so-called market solutions it very

specifically criticizes

carbon markets a carbon offsetting

everything.

Probably the most significant parliament

that the picture

is the foreign grounding

of

the culture

of frenetic

consumption

in the wealthy world among the wealthy,

and this is a really significant 
because I think large parts

of the climate change discussion

trial they have it all ways and say no,

we just will just have a green growth.

Well just how

well it will consume green products

and

you know this goes a lot deeper 
than that and says no.

We need to get at the

underlying there are used

there are

feeling this cultural frenetic 
conception that is entirely

unsustainable.

Now like you mentioned the fact that 
the pope calls repeatedly in

the encyclical for radical change,

I want to ask you about a specific

citation from the leaked document

that period earlier this week,

he said.

And in a corrupt

culture

we can't believe that laws will 
be enough to change behaviors

that affect the environment,

could you talk specifically about 
that about the laws that he may

be referring to there.

Well,

I think that

when he referring to corruption

and I believe he referring 
to the influence of

polling companies and multinational 
corporations which we also put

out

the encyclical

and I think this is one of the most 
significant thing about the

darkness.

One might expect

of a religious talking 
about climate change

you erased

difference right say

we're,

we're all in this together

and certainly a possibility.

Earth has our common home

but it also recognizes

explicitly the power dynamics

in

capitalism,

which is to say that there 
are forces witnesses

and they're

actively working against

change

and

and that is probably well he's 
referring to when he's talking

about

how there may be lots that 
the laws are enforced.

And you know I do you know the 
laws are also inadequate,

which is also addressed

in the in the dark

and it has a very specific

calls for

know I'm not aware of all 
the environmental law.

I wish to pay the darkness.

I haven't been able to look at,

look at

you know closely enough

and another thing I have 
to say if you know I am.

You know I

have accepted and this invitation to

seek a confidence

which

is a

do you more deeply into the darkness.

Because

there is an understanding that 
it does take time to digest a

document

at this

this multi-layered

and it

requires

that kind of deeper

and I think that this intervention

5 months ahead of the UN climate

conference in Paris

is tremendously significant,

it's going to push political leaders

should go further.

It's gonna be a tool for social movements,

a lot of the language of the kind 
of justice movement has just

been adopted by the pope and you 
you know phrases like ecological

debt.

The pub is talking about the death

well world owes to the poor.

This is a frightening

that comes,

originally

from Ecuador

from the

against drilling in the Amazon

and you know that he's he's.

This is a phrase that was

you never heard in mainstream circles.

Until

now,

just now actually,

I mean,

I've never seen such a mainstream

use of that term.

So it is very important

in that way,

but I mean I have to say 
on a personal level,

that

as as thrilled as I am

that the,

that that that the Vatican 
is leading in this way,

you know this pope is leading this way

and bringing together the fight 
against poverty with

the fight

on climate change.

That doesn't mean

there's a

complete merger between the crime 
and justice movement in the

Vatican,

you know,

I mean obviously there are huge 
differences that remain over

issues

like

is quality

a reproductive rights and freedom

to name just a few.

Nathan Schneider your columnist

with the Catholic weekly America

you've been covering Catholic engagement 
with climate change.

Talk about the scope of this,

I mean just for people to understand 
what this encyclical is the

number of languages.

It's been released and how large it is

and what it means for the 
Catholic community.

Well,

this is really the first 
3rd world and cyclical

you know this is coming from a pope

who was shaped

in really significant ways by economic 
crisis during the Cold War

in Argentina

and

being in the middle of 
a battleground between

between the first and second world powers

it was drafted by

a cardinal from Ghana,

so this is coming from

the side of the world that we 
don't normally hear from

and

it's

very much in line with things 
that popes have been saying

for decades.

You know,

going back to Paul.

The 6th and John Polis second

Benedict,

the 16th,

so a lot of

the content is actually not 
so new for Catholics

but the emphasis and that

that

that that

that the language of climate debt

the language is the recognition 
that there is a

a divide here between the rich 
countries in the poor

and this is a cry

from

the developing world from

what has been

labeled the 3rd world

for change.

We're gonna break and when we come back,

we'll hear

the words of Cardinal

Peter Turks and himself of Ghana.