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Environmental groups have welcomed the pope's action on climate
steeped in a quote
poverty with no way out.
on the globe isn't.
to change course conference
and poor,
that should supersede political and economic interests.
from Canada
has
is now possible to
Iranian and
anybody
discussion about and
and that harms everyone had expressed through the poorest
express my deep deep sadness and outrage
But
and it is certainly
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action to save the planet from environmental ruin
you know I'm right forum
of climate change,
I invite everyone to accept with open hearts
the culture
say some very powerful truth about that the real implications
Nathan Schneider joins us columnist in America magazine a national
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the Vatican published the pope's long awaited encyclical on the
where she will speak at the people and planet first the imperative
the cry of the Earth and the cry of the poor.
Being that they consume less fossil fuels.
delays half measures
and here in New York.
in the US media cycle
While others have not the faintest idea of what to do with their
on the impact on Republican,
he said.
I want to ask you about a specific
changes everything,
well it will consume green products
and the poorest people who don't have the means to defend
consumption
in the wealthy world among the wealthy,
Good morning.
we can't believe that laws will be enough to change behaviors
denying the urgency of the science.
to
which is also worth bearing
culture
underlying there are used
Our house is going to ruin
climate denial is not just about denying the science is also about
throw away consumer culture
citation from the leaked document
and
in Italy
and that is probably well he's referring to when he's talking
is a
polling companies and multinational corporations which we also put
before the common good.
One might expect
capitalism versus the climate.
everything.
the guy has given to many crescendo
You know I
environment and climate change,
in which he was placed
should go further.
I think that
he said.
to hear
this multi-layered
to that demographic.
Rick Santorum.
which is to say that there are forces witnesses
you know this pope is leading this way
to name just a few.
And it was an attack on a religious institution,
countries
and
stock you know I've which follows the church's social document.
. When it was just released,
The pub is talking about the death
that that that the Vatican is leading in this way,
been adopted by the pope and you you know phrases like ecological
we fail to see that some are mired in desperate and degrading
and
Thank you both
door has just been opened and
cyclical
very clear.
as well as an attack
of frenetic
overstate the importance of it,
Pope.
measure that will encourage speculation and rapid consumption
in really significant ways by economic crisis during the Cold War
for believers and nonbelievers alike
I haven't been able to look at,
capitalism,
I've got strong wind
possessions
the encyclical
based on the past,
a lot of the language of the kind of justice movement has just
and it
He also dismissed those who argue
that kind of deeper
so-called market solutions it very
it is also a challenge to Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama
know I'm not aware of all the environmental law.
because
I mean just for people to understand what this encyclical is the
large part of the green movement
where it
you know this goes a lot deeper than that and says no.
climate change is already happening
explicitly the power dynamics
Vatican,
It's gonna be a tool for social movements,
Yes,
which is also addressed
We're joined now by 2 guests Naomi Klein is the author of this
on climate change.
Earlier today,
the encyclical for radical change,
a grief-stricken warning there were having this conversation.
of
from
as as thrilled as I am
in Argentina
focused and will continue to focus
is the foreign grounding
an inadequate
Because
at this
There are also part of the human population who,
actively working against
well world owes to the poor.
and an end to obstructionist attitudes that sometimes put profit
feeling this cultural frenetic conception that is entirely
And I think a lot of
Naomi let's begin with you
just now actually,
for decades.
you erased
and
to and keep the
requires
We turn now to the Vatican where Pope Francis has called for swift
that for us is a source of inspiration.
and I think this is one of the most significant thing about the
vainly showing off their supposed superiority
and this is happening,
while it's not heroes,
And you know I do you know the laws are also inadequate,
and its effects have already been disastrous on the poorest
urging world leaders to hear a quote
mean Goodman with their main chair.
on climate change and the environment.
that technology will solve all environmental problems in the
from Ecuador
would destroy the planet.
We have already expressed our gratitude to his holiness because we
it's
there are
the impact that it will have.
This is a frightening
which
So we are absolutely grateful for this in cyclical
Quote
seek a confidence
and bringing together the fight against poverty with
the 16th,
so a lot of
of a religious talking about climate change
that
specifically criticizes
France has called for a change of lifestyle and rich countries
everywhere
Peter Turks and himself of Ghana.
that the picture
We urge you to stay with us.
and it has a very specific
In the United States because the pope is coming out so clearly
difference right say
I mean,
The document is
carbon markets a carbon offsetting
in the in the dark
Hope Francis said.
darkness.
number of languages.
but I mean I have to say on a personal level,
Well,
and leaving behind them so much waste which
the side of the world that we don't normally hear from
debt.
many of whom are Catholic,
You know,
at the least responsibility for what is happening.
and you know that he's he's.
. A major 3 theme of the encyclical as the disparity between rich
Protecting the planet is a moral and ethical imperative
is
5 months ahead of the UN climate
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respond to the Pope's encyclical
of the climate change discussion
if it were the case,
frankly,
you know I think that this you know in the quicker we cannot
Now like you mentioned the fact that the pope calls repeatedly in
at The Hague crime
in
It's hard to respond to a document that runs a close to 200 pages
We need to get at the
that period earlier this week,
that the language of climate debt
Probably the most significant parliament
a challenge
A
This is
like
my is therefore an appeal for responsibility,
global hunger and poverty will be resolved simply by market growth
we're,
Catholic weekly magazine published by the Cheshire.
themselves from it.
She's been invited to speak at the Vatican,
just settle on a free oil is the executive director of Greenpeace
we just will just have a green growth.
and certainly a possibility.
use of that term.
it really the root causes.
this is really the first 3rd world and cyclical
As Greenpeace.
on an African Americans.
need to see climate change as a mostly moral and ethical issue
and they're
the fight
you know this is coming from a pope
do you more deeply into the darkness.
we'll hear
trial they have it all ways and say no,
conference in Paris
change
but it also recognizes
there is an understanding that it does take time to digest a
Well just how
before I you know I would really like to
you know closely enough
It's been released and how large it is
have accepted and this invitation to
dangerous
I've never seen such a mainstream
so this is coming from
that affect the environment,
the language is the recognition that there is a
in Charleston.
few hours ago
but I think it's too easy to say that this is just a challenge
it is a rebuke of a slow action
very specifically
a divide here between the rich countries in the poor
you never heard in mainstream circles.
and
you know.
is blowing through
complete merger between the crime and justice movement in the
where are still
how there may be lots that the laws are enforced.
originally
to
the words of Cardinal
and
going back to Paul.
and I think that this intervention
on the side of climate science and saying this is real,
I wish to pay the darkness.
the content is actually not so new for Catholics
be referring to there.
it's going to push political leaders
and this is a really significant because I think large parts
a cardinal from Ghana,
look at
about
out
that comes,
you know,
issues
And in a corrupt
very strong into journey
in that way,
when he referring to corruption
with the Catholic weekly America
that the,
says that
unsustainable.
change
between the first and second world powers
Well,
Nathan Schneider your columnist
could you talk specifically about that about the laws that he may
and I believe he referring to the influence of
We're gonna break and when we come back,
The 6th and John Polis second
we're all in this together
Earth has our common home
This is a phrase that was
from the
document
calls for
who was shaped
Until
That doesn't mean
you've been covering Catholic engagement with climate change.
a reproductive rights and freedom
and this is a cry
I mean obviously there are huge differences that remain over
and another thing I have to say if you know I am.
the developing world from
for change.
it was drafted by
against drilling in the Amazon
is tremendously significant,
is quality
now,
very much in line with things that popes have been saying
So it is very important
and
there's a
what has been
being in the middle of a battleground between
but the emphasis and that
and what it means for the Catholic community.
Talk about the scope of this,
Benedict,
that
labeled the 3rd world
that that