[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:10.00,0:14:03.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is Democracy Now democracy now.org \Nthe war and peace report I Dialogue: 0,0:14:03.00,0:03:15.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mean Goodman with their main chair. Dialogue: 0,0:13:35.00,0:04:59.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We turn now to the Vatican where Pope \NFrancis has called for swift Dialogue: 0,0:05:29.00,0:03:22.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,action to save the planet \Nfrom environmental ruin Dialogue: 0,0:14:02.00,0:01:15.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,urging world leaders to hear a quote Dialogue: 0,0:06:05.00,0:12:08.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the cry of the Earth and \Nthe cry of the poor. Dialogue: 0,0:12:08.00,0:05:59.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Earlier today, Dialogue: 0,0:05:59.00,0:08:42.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Vatican published the pope's \Nlong awaited encyclical on the Dialogue: 0,0:08:42.00,0:10:34.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,environment and climate change, Dialogue: 0,0:10:34.00,0:15:14.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Pope. Dialogue: 0,0:15:14.00,0:00:58.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,France has called for a change of \Nlifestyle and rich countries Dialogue: 0,0:02:38.00,0:03:09.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,steeped in a quote Dialogue: 0,0:07:59.00,0:04:31.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,throw away consumer culture Dialogue: 0,0:13:01.00,0:02:26.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and an end to obstructionist attitudes \Nthat sometimes put profit Dialogue: 0,0:08:16.00,0:15:47.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,before the common good. Dialogue: 0,0:16:09.00,0:06:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,NASDAQ. Dialogue: 0,0:07:52.00,0:11:03.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Our house is going to ruin Dialogue: 0,0:05:14.00,0:07:56.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that harms everyone had expressed \Nthrough the poorest Dialogue: 0,0:17:16.00,0:10:59.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my is therefore an appeal \Nfor responsibility, Dialogue: 0,0:10:59.00,0:08:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,based on the past, Dialogue: 0,0:08:30.00,0:01:12.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the guy has given to many crescendo Dialogue: 0,0:13:32.00,0:07:53.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to and keep the Dialogue: 0,0:08:44.00,0:10:55.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in which he was placed Dialogue: 0,0:05:36.00,0:06:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I invite everyone to accept \Nwith open hearts Dialogue: 0,0:09:48.00,0:06:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stock you know I've which follows \Nthe church's social document. Dialogue: 0,0:15:32.00,0:16:03.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hope Francis said. Dialogue: 0,0:16:03.00,0:05:27.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Protecting the planet is a moral \Nand ethical imperative Dialogue: 0,0:10:37.00,0:14:19.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for believers and nonbelievers alike Dialogue: 0,0:03:40.00,0:11:03.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that should supersede political \Nand economic interests. Dialogue: 0,0:11:03.00,0:07:45.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He also dismissed those who argue Dialogue: 0,0:14:05.00,0:17:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that technology will solve all \Nenvironmental problems in the Dialogue: 0,0:17:18.00,0:16:02.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,global hunger and poverty will be \Nresolved simply by market growth Dialogue: 0,0:16:02.00,0:02:27.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,. A major 3 theme of the encyclical \Nas the disparity between rich Dialogue: 0,0:03:07.00,0:06:38.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and poor, Dialogue: 0,0:06:38.00,0:14:48.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he said. Dialogue: 0,0:14:48.00,0:04:29.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Quote Dialogue: 0,0:09:59.00,0:17:32.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we fail to see that some are mired \Nin desperate and degrading Dialogue: 0,0:02:43.00,0:06:25.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,poverty with no way out. Dialogue: 0,0:06:25.00,0:10:48.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,While others have not the faintest \Nidea of what to do with their Dialogue: 0,0:10:48.00,0:02:39.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,possessions Dialogue: 0,0:13:49.00,0:10:32.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,vainly showing off their \Nsupposed superiority Dialogue: 0,0:15:42.00,0:11:15.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and leaving behind them \Nso much waste which Dialogue: 0,0:16:25.00,0:15:16.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if it were the case, Dialogue: 0,0:15:16.00,0:07:57.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everywhere Dialogue: 0,0:14:07.00,0:02:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would destroy the planet. Dialogue: 0,0:02:10.00,0:18:22.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Environmental groups have welcomed \Nthe pope's action on climate Dialogue: 0,0:18:22.00,0:10:43.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,change Dialogue: 0,0:17:33.00,0:07:37.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just settle on a free oil is the \Nexecutive director of Greenpeace Dialogue: 0,0:08:07.00,0:04:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Italy Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.00,0:16:59.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the globe isn't. Dialogue: 0,0:17:49.00,0:14:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As Greenpeace. Dialogue: 0,0:14:10.00,0:17:53.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have already expressed our gratitude \Nto his holiness because we Dialogue: 0,0:17:53.00,0:04:27.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,need to see climate change as a \Nmostly moral and ethical issue Dialogue: 0,0:11:37.00,0:08:59.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,climate change is already happening Dialogue: 0,0:13:59.00,0:09:42.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and its effects have already been \Ndisastrous on the poorest Dialogue: 0,0:09:42.00,0:18:12.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,countries Dialogue: 0,0:06:53.00,0:17:25.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the poorest people who don't \Nhave the means to defend Dialogue: 0,0:17:25.00,0:12:47.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,themselves from it. Dialogue: 0,0:12:47.00,0:15:59.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are also part of the \Nhuman population who, Dialogue: 0,0:15:59.00,0:06:12.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the least responsibility \Nfor what is happening. Dialogue: 0,0:06:12.00,0:14:34.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Being that they consume less fossil fuels. Dialogue: 0,0:14:34.00,0:07:07.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we are absolutely grateful \Nfor this in cyclical Dialogue: 0,0:13:37.00,0:13:09.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that for us is a source of inspiration. Dialogue: 0,0:12:00.00,0:06:04.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're joined now by 2 guests Naomi \NKlein is the author of this Dialogue: 0,0:06:44.00,0:08:25.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,changes everything, Dialogue: 0,0:08:25.00,0:17:26.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,capitalism versus the climate. Dialogue: 0,0:17:26.00,0:05:59.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She's been invited to \Nspeak at the Vatican, Dialogue: 0,0:05:59.00,0:17:32.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where she will speak at the people \Nand planet first the imperative Dialogue: 0,0:03:03.00,0:17:04.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to change course conference Dialogue: 0,0:05:55.00,0:16:57.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she's joining us by Democracy \NNow video stream Dialogue: 0,0:03:48.00,0:16:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from Canada Dialogue: 0,0:06:19.00,0:05:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and here in New York. Dialogue: 0,0:05:50.00,0:17:23.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nathan Schneider joins us columnist \Nin America magazine a national Dialogue: 0,0:17:23.00,0:10:06.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Catholic weekly magazine published \Nby the Cheshire. Dialogue: 0,0:10:06.00,0:05:17.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you both Dialogue: 0,0:13:07.00,0:09:49.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Naomi let's begin with you Dialogue: 0,0:16:20.00,0:09:53.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,respond to the Pope's encyclical Dialogue: 0,0:14:03.00,0:05:56.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on climate change and the environment. Dialogue: 0,0:11:58.00,0:19:38.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, Dialogue: 0,0:19:38.00,0:06:59.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know. Dialogue: 0,0:06:59.00,0:04:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Good morning. Dialogue: 0,0:04:50.00,0:13:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Iranian and Dialogue: 0,0:10:01.00,0:14:31.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Dialogue: 0,0:18:41.00,0:03:44.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,before I you know I would really like to Dialogue: 0,0:05:15.00,0:10:28.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,express my deep deep sadness and outrage Dialogue: 0,0:16:38.00,0:12:49.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at The Hague crime Dialogue: 0,0:19:19.00,0:17:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Charleston. Dialogue: 0,0:17:10.00,0:09:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is Dialogue: 0,0:12:12.00,0:09:36.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a grief-stricken warning there \Nwere having this conversation. Dialogue: 0,0:09:36.00,0:07:19.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it was an attack on a \Nreligious institution, Dialogue: 0,0:07:19.00,0:03:41.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is also worth bearing Dialogue: 0,0:10:21.00,0:11:32.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as well as an attack Dialogue: 0,0:17:52.00,0:05:26.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on an African Americans. Dialogue: 0,0:05:26.00,0:11:26.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I Dialogue: 0,0:16:36.00,0:08:29.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know I think that this you \Nknow in the quicker we cannot Dialogue: 0,0:10:29.00,0:14:21.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,overstate the importance of it, Dialogue: 0,0:14:21.00,0:16:43.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the impact that it will have. Dialogue: 0,0:16:43.00,0:09:48.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's hard to respond to a document \Nthat runs a close to 200 pages Dialogue: 0,0:09:48.00,0:05:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,. When it was just released, Dialogue: 0,0:05:30.00,0:08:01.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know I'm right forum Dialogue: 0,0:19:21.00,0:14:42.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,few hours ago Dialogue: 0,0:19:52.00,0:14:33.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where are still Dialogue: 0,0:18:53.00,0:05:14.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dangerous Dialogue: 0,0:08:54.00,0:14:04.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to hear Dialogue: 0,0:05:05.00,0:09:15.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,anybody Dialogue: 0,0:16:05.00,0:04:26.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is Dialogue: 0,0:10:16.00,0:17:07.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very clear. Dialogue: 0,0:17:07.00,0:04:58.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A Dialogue: 0,0:10:08.00,0:09:20.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,door has just been opened and Dialogue: 0,0:13:30.00,0:18:20.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Dialogue: 0,0:10:41.00,0:11:52.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've got strong wind Dialogue: 0,0:19:42.00,0:05:44.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is blowing through Dialogue: 0,0:11:34.00,0:18:04.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where it Dialogue: 0,0:04:45.00,0:18:16.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is now possible to Dialogue: 0,0:07:17.00,0:11:47.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to Dialogue: 0,0:05:48.00,0:18:51.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,say some very powerful truth about \Nthat the real implications Dialogue: 0,0:05:32.00,0:17:43.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of climate change, Dialogue: 0,0:17:43.00,0:13:05.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it really the root causes. Dialogue: 0,0:13:05.00,0:16:36.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think a lot of Dialogue: 0,0:05:07.00,0:05:58.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,discussion about and Dialogue: 0,0:10:08.00,0:17:38.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cyclical Dialogue: 0,0:06:19.00,0:17:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the US media cycle Dialogue: 0,0:04:31.00,0:08:51.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has Dialogue: 0,0:12:21.00,0:18:43.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,focused and will continue to focus Dialogue: 0,0:06:34.00,0:08:06.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the impact on Republican, Dialogue: 0,0:08:06.00,0:10:26.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Dialogue: 0,0:13:56.00,0:15:48.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,while it's not heroes, Dialogue: 0,0:15:48.00,0:05:20.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,many of whom are Catholic, Dialogue: 0,0:05:20.00,0:07:21.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it is certainly Dialogue: 0,0:17:01.00,0:15:22.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a challenge Dialogue: 0,0:09:03.00,0:15:24.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to that demographic. Dialogue: 0,0:15:24.00,0:10:27.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the United States because the \Npope is coming out so clearly Dialogue: 0,0:20:07.00,0:13:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the side of climate science \Nand saying this is real, Dialogue: 0,0:13:50.00,0:19:21.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and this is happening, Dialogue: 0,0:19:21.00,0:15:45.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I think it's too easy to say \Nthat this is just a challenge Dialogue: 0,0:19:55.00,0:13:26.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to Dialogue: 0,0:09:07.00,0:05:19.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rick Santorum. Dialogue: 0,0:05:19.00,0:10:39.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But Dialogue: 0,0:16:29.00,0:11:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,frankly, Dialogue: 0,0:11:10.00,0:19:23.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is also a challenge to Hillary \NClinton and Barack Obama Dialogue: 0,0:11:24.00,0:16:15.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,large part of the green movement Dialogue: 0,0:11:16.00,0:05:07.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because Dialogue: 0,0:19:27.00,0:20:19.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is a rebuke of a slow action Dialogue: 0,0:19:30.00,0:17:21.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very specifically Dialogue: 0,0:21:21.00,0:15:32.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,says that Dialogue: 0,0:07:53.00,0:05:37.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,climate denial is not just about denying \Nthe science is also about Dialogue: 0,0:07:07.00,0:15:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,denying the urgency of the science. Dialogue: 0,0:15:30.00,0:16:51.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The document is Dialogue: 0,0:21:01.00,0:16:03.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very strong into journey Dialogue: 0,0:06:14.00,0:06:16.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,delays half measures Dialogue: 0,0:11:06.00,0:10:58.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so-called market solutions it very Dialogue: 0,0:15:08.00,0:08:20.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,specifically criticizes Dialogue: 0,0:15:30.00,0:10:12.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,carbon markets a carbon offsetting Dialogue: 0,0:12:33.00,0:19:43.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an inadequate Dialogue: 0,0:10:34.00,0:16:27.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,measure that will encourage speculation \Nand rapid consumption Dialogue: 0,0:08:28.00,0:16:58.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everything. Dialogue: 0,0:16:58.00,0:10:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Probably the most significant parliament Dialogue: 0,0:15:20.00,0:08:51.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the picture Dialogue: 0,0:12:31.00,0:19:42.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is the foreign grounding Dialogue: 0,0:12:13.00,0:16:33.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of Dialogue: 0,0:05:44.00,0:05:55.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the culture Dialogue: 0,0:10:25.00,0:19:25.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of frenetic Dialogue: 0,0:06:56.00,0:19:56.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,consumption Dialogue: 0,0:06:57.00,0:20:19.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the wealthy world among the wealthy, Dialogue: 0,0:20:19.00,0:11:33.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and this is a really significant \Nbecause I think large parts Dialogue: 0,0:16:23.00,0:14:25.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the climate change discussion Dialogue: 0,0:18:15.00,0:17:37.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,trial they have it all ways and say no, Dialogue: 0,0:17:37.00,0:18:39.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we just will just have a green growth. Dialogue: 0,0:18:39.00,0:18:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well just how Dialogue: 0,0:06:51.00,0:20:12.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well it will consume green products Dialogue: 0,0:09:43.00,0:17:23.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Dialogue: 0,0:11:34.00,0:16:47.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know this goes a lot deeper \Nthan that and says no. Dialogue: 0,0:16:47.00,0:19:38.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We need to get at the Dialogue: 0,0:07:29.00,0:07:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,underlying there are used Dialogue: 0,0:14:20.00,0:09:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there are Dialogue: 0,0:13:01.00,0:17:54.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,feeling this cultural frenetic \Nconception that is entirely Dialogue: 0,0:21:44.00,0:17:05.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,unsustainable. Dialogue: 0,0:16:36.00,0:12:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now like you mentioned the fact that \Nthe pope calls repeatedly in Dialogue: 0,0:12:10.00,0:06:43.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the encyclical for radical change, Dialogue: 0,0:06:43.00,0:20:04.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to ask you about a specific Dialogue: 0,0:08:05.00,0:10:37.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,citation from the leaked document Dialogue: 0,0:16:47.00,0:08:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that period earlier this week, Dialogue: 0,0:08:50.00,0:20:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he said. Dialogue: 0,0:20:50.00,0:18:31.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And in a corrupt Dialogue: 0,0:07:22.00,0:15:42.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,culture Dialogue: 0,0:07:03.00,0:11:37.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we can't believe that laws will \Nbe enough to change behaviors Dialogue: 0,0:19:07.00,0:21:49.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that affect the environment, Dialogue: 0,0:21:49.00,0:20:13.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,could you talk specifically about \Nthat about the laws that he may Dialogue: 0,0:20:13.00,0:09:35.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be referring to there. Dialogue: 0,0:21:46.00,0:08:47.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, Dialogue: 0,0:08:47.00,0:16:47.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that Dialogue: 0,0:21:07.00,0:17:09.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when he referring to corruption Dialogue: 0,0:21:59.00,0:15:23.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I believe he referring \Nto the influence of Dialogue: 0,0:08:14.00,0:20:27.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,polling companies and multinational \Ncorporations which we also put Dialogue: 0,0:20:27.00,0:22:17.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,out Dialogue: 0,0:10:58.00,0:22:38.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the encyclical Dialogue: 0,0:13:39.00,0:15:32.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I think this is one of the most \Nsignificant thing about the Dialogue: 0,0:15:32.00,0:08:23.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,darkness. Dialogue: 0,0:08:23.00,0:10:24.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One might expect Dialogue: 0,0:15:04.00,0:18:56.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of a religious talking \Nabout climate change Dialogue: 0,0:13:27.00,0:07:58.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you erased Dialogue: 0,0:15:28.00,0:13:49.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,difference right say Dialogue: 0,0:17:19.00,0:22:19.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we're, Dialogue: 0,0:22:19.00,0:14:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we're all in this together Dialogue: 0,0:17:41.00,0:22:32.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and certainly a possibility. Dialogue: 0,0:22:32.00,0:12:14.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Earth has our common home Dialogue: 0,0:18:24.00,0:17:36.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it also recognizes Dialogue: 0,0:11:37.00,0:12:39.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,explicitly the power dynamics Dialogue: 0,0:16:39.00,0:20:49.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Dialogue: 0,0:10:40.00,0:09:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,capitalism, Dialogue: 0,0:09:11.00,0:13:13.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is to say that there \Nare forces witnesses Dialogue: 0,0:17:53.00,0:22:53.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they're Dialogue: 0,0:12:54.00,0:12:55.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actively working against Dialogue: 0,0:21:45.00,0:13:46.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,change Dialogue: 0,0:19:56.00,0:10:17.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Dialogue: 0,0:08:08.00,0:20:21.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that is probably well he's \Nreferring to when he's talking Dialogue: 0,0:20:21.00,0:10:02.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about Dialogue: 0,0:19:52.00,0:13:56.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how there may be lots that \Nthe laws are enforced. Dialogue: 0,0:13:56.00,0:11:59.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you know I do you know the \Nlaws are also inadequate, Dialogue: 0,0:11:59.00,0:11:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is also addressed Dialogue: 0,0:15:30.00,0:11:51.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the in the dark Dialogue: 0,0:15:21.00,0:08:03.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it has a very specific Dialogue: 0,0:22:53.00,0:23:34.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,calls for Dialogue: 0,0:11:15.00,0:20:07.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know I'm not aware of all \Nthe environmental law. Dialogue: 0,0:20:07.00,0:10:39.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wish to pay the darkness. Dialogue: 0,0:10:39.00,0:20:20.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I haven't been able to look at, Dialogue: 0,0:20:20.00,0:09:41.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,look at Dialogue: 0,0:18:42.00,0:20:13.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know closely enough Dialogue: 0,0:23:43.00,0:08:36.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and another thing I have \Nto say if you know I am. Dialogue: 0,0:08:36.00,0:13:56.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know I Dialogue: 0,0:18:46.00,0:08:39.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have accepted and this invitation to Dialogue: 0,0:14:49.00,0:18:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,seek a confidence Dialogue: 0,0:14:31.00,0:21:01.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which Dialogue: 0,0:08:12.00,0:12:32.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is a Dialogue: 0,0:18:12.00,0:12:34.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do you more deeply into the darkness. Dialogue: 0,0:12:34.00,0:15:54.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because Dialogue: 0,0:18:25.00,0:21:48.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there is an understanding that \Nit does take time to digest a Dialogue: 0,0:22:48.00,0:08:59.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,document Dialogue: 0,0:12:39.00,0:17:29.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at this Dialogue: 0,0:09:00.00,0:08:51.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this multi-layered Dialogue: 0,0:11:02.00,0:23:12.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it Dialogue: 0,0:13:33.00,0:23:13.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,requires Dialogue: 0,0:11:04.00,0:12:35.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that kind of deeper Dialogue: 0,0:20:06.00,0:12:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I think that this intervention Dialogue: 0,0:16:08.00,0:11:20.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,5 months ahead of the UN climate Dialogue: 0,0:18:20.00,0:16:41.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,conference in Paris Dialogue: 0,0:24:21.00,0:20:13.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is tremendously significant, Dialogue: 0,0:20:13.00,0:18:55.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's going to push political leaders Dialogue: 0,0:08:46.00,0:11:57.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,should go further. Dialogue: 0,0:11:57.00,0:10:59.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's gonna be a tool for social movements, Dialogue: 0,0:10:59.00,0:24:02.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a lot of the language of the kind \Nof justice movement has just Dialogue: 0,0:09:53.00,0:13:37.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,been adopted by the pope and you \Nyou know phrases like ecological Dialogue: 0,0:15:47.00,0:09:48.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,debt. Dialogue: 0,0:09:48.00,0:20:09.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The pub is talking about the death Dialogue: 0,0:13:00.00,0:14:22.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well world owes to the poor. Dialogue: 0,0:14:22.00,0:14:23.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a frightening Dialogue: 0,0:20:33.00,0:19:54.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that comes, Dialogue: 0,0:19:54.00,0:13:55.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,originally Dialogue: 0,0:14:06.00,0:10:47.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from Ecuador Dialogue: 0,0:22:47.00,0:11:08.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the Dialogue: 0,0:24:18.00,0:18:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,against drilling in the Amazon Dialogue: 0,0:16:01.00,0:22:32.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you know that he's he's. Dialogue: 0,0:22:32.00,0:08:54.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a phrase that was Dialogue: 0,0:19:34.00,0:23:06.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you never heard in mainstream circles. Dialogue: 0,0:23:06.00,0:14:47.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Until Dialogue: 0,0:24:37.00,0:13:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,now, Dialogue: 0,0:13:18.00,0:15:29.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just now actually, Dialogue: 0,0:15:29.00,0:18:59.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, Dialogue: 0,0:18:59.00,0:11:41.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've never seen such a mainstream Dialogue: 0,0:17:41.00,0:24:42.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,use of that term. Dialogue: 0,0:24:42.00,0:12:14.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it is very important Dialogue: 0,0:21:04.00,0:15:35.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in that way, Dialogue: 0,0:15:35.00,0:15:07.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I mean I have to say \Non a personal level, Dialogue: 0,0:15:07.00,0:19:07.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that Dialogue: 0,0:12:18.00,0:09:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as as thrilled as I am Dialogue: 0,0:21:20.00,0:09:52.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the, Dialogue: 0,0:09:52.00,0:09:14.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that that that the Vatican \Nis leading in this way, Dialogue: 0,0:09:14.00,0:18:15.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know this pope is leading this way Dialogue: 0,0:14:56.00,0:18:59.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and bringing together the fight \Nagainst poverty with Dialogue: 0,0:18:00.00,0:24:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the fight Dialogue: 0,0:12:01.00,0:23:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on climate change. Dialogue: 0,0:23:11.00,0:19:12.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That doesn't mean Dialogue: 0,0:24:53.00,0:16:04.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's a Dialogue: 0,0:19:44.00,0:11:47.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,complete merger between the crime \Nand justice movement in the Dialogue: 0,0:11:47.00,0:20:37.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Vatican, Dialogue: 0,0:20:37.00,0:23:37.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, Dialogue: 0,0:23:37.00,0:20:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean obviously there are huge \Ndifferences that remain over Dialogue: 0,0:20:40.00,0:13:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,issues Dialogue: 0,0:17:11.00,0:20:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like Dialogue: 0,0:24:21.00,0:19:22.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is quality Dialogue: 0,0:23:23.00,0:14:15.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a reproductive rights and freedom Dialogue: 0,0:09:26.00,0:24:46.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to name just a few. Dialogue: 0,0:21:47.00,0:16:39.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nathan Schneider your columnist Dialogue: 0,0:21:09.00,0:11:22.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the Catholic weekly America Dialogue: 0,0:23:22.00,0:25:26.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you've been covering Catholic engagement \Nwith climate change. Dialogue: 0,0:25:26.00,0:11:19.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Talk about the scope of this, Dialogue: 0,0:11:19.00,0:15:32.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean just for people to understand \Nwhat this encyclical is the Dialogue: 0,0:15:32.00,0:18:43.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,number of languages. Dialogue: 0,0:18:43.00,0:19:45.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's been released and how large it is Dialogue: 0,0:25:15.00,0:10:48.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what it means for the \NCatholic community. Dialogue: 0,0:15:38.00,0:17:48.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, Dialogue: 0,0:17:48.00,0:10:31.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is really the first \N3rd world and cyclical Dialogue: 0,0:18:01.00,0:12:03.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know this is coming from a pope Dialogue: 0,0:22:53.00,0:23:24.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who was shaped Dialogue: 0,0:10:35.00,0:25:08.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in really significant ways by economic \Ncrisis during the Cold War Dialogue: 0,0:12:19.00,0:14:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Argentina Dialogue: 0,0:24:50.00,0:13:41.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Dialogue: 0,0:25:11.00,0:12:34.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,being in the middle of \Na battleground between Dialogue: 0,0:21:45.00,0:19:57.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between the first and second world powers Dialogue: 0,0:24:07.00,0:12:09.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was drafted by Dialogue: 0,0:20:19.00,0:19:01.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a cardinal from Ghana, Dialogue: 0,0:19:01.00,0:11:03.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so this is coming from Dialogue: 0,0:15:43.00,0:11:36.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the side of the world that we \Ndon't normally hear from Dialogue: 0,0:19:36.00,0:25:56.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Dialogue: 0,0:14:17.00,0:19:57.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's Dialogue: 0,0:24:37.00,0:26:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very much in line with things \Nthat popes have been saying Dialogue: 0,0:13:21.00,0:15:52.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for decades. Dialogue: 0,0:15:52.00,0:20:02.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, Dialogue: 0,0:20:02.00,0:22:13.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going back to Paul. Dialogue: 0,0:22:13.00,0:20:35.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The 6th and John Polis second Dialogue: 0,0:25:35.00,0:14:56.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Benedict, Dialogue: 0,0:14:56.00,0:14:57.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the 16th, Dialogue: 0,0:14:57.00,0:12:58.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so a lot of Dialogue: 0,0:20:08.00,0:21:41.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the content is actually not \Nso new for Catholics Dialogue: 0,0:25:11.00,0:21:43.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but the emphasis and that Dialogue: 0,0:26:03.00,0:14:34.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that Dialogue: 0,0:26:24.00,0:20:05.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that that Dialogue: 0,0:16:56.00,0:15:38.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the language of climate debt Dialogue: 0,0:19:08.00,0:16:01.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the language is the recognition \Nthat there is a Dialogue: 0,0:19:31.00,0:19:54.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a divide here between the rich \Ncountries in the poor Dialogue: 0,0:23:24.00,0:24:45.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and this is a cry Dialogue: 0,0:12:16.00,0:20:16.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from Dialogue: 0,0:23:46.00,0:16:28.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the developing world from Dialogue: 0,0:24:58.00,0:20:49.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what has been Dialogue: 0,0:26:19.00,0:13:31.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,labeled the 3rd world Dialogue: 0,0:23:51.00,0:15:02.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for change. Dialogue: 0,0:22:12.00,0:18:14.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're gonna break and when we come back, Dialogue: 0,0:18:14.00,0:15:35.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we'll hear Dialogue: 0,0:19:55.00,0:24:16.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the words of Cardinal Dialogue: 0,0:15:17.00,0:15:20.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Peter Turks and himself of Ghana. Dialogue: 0,0:15:20.00,0:19:52.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We urge you to stay with us.