0:00:16.503,0:00:19.650 KARA WALKER: The Psychlorama, you know, 0:00:19.650,0:00:23.204 was a major phenomenon in the 19th century, 0:00:25.040,0:00:27.404 but it's just before cinema, you know. 0:00:28.640,0:00:29.960 It's round. 0:00:29.960,0:00:33.865 So you enter into this rotunda that's lit. 0:00:40.160,0:00:44.720 It's like the peak of the painter's [br]creative enterprise, you know, 0:00:44.720,0:00:47.800 to make the painting surround the viewer 0:00:47.800,0:00:52.280 and to create the illusion of depth and of space 0:00:52.280,0:00:58.484 and to lure the viewer into the [br]feeling of being a part of the scene. 0:01:21.156,0:01:25.468 [Brazilian teacher]: Is there [br]only one story being told here? 0:01:26.835,0:01:29.616 It seems each figure comprises a story. 0:01:30.279,0:01:33.816 At the same time, we’re in a round room? 0:01:35.401,0:01:39.830 Does the story have a beginning or end? 0:01:42.640,0:01:46.640 Most of my work is, the illusion [br]is that it’s about past events. 0:01:46.640,0:01:53.000 The illusion is that it’s simply about a [br]particular point in history and nothing else. 0:01:53.000,0:01:57.640 And it’s really part of the [br]ruse that I tend to like to 0:01:57.640,0:02:03.840 approach the complexities of my [br]own life by distancing myself 0:02:03.840,0:02:07.160 and finding a parallel in something prettier 0:02:07.160,0:02:09.200 and more uh, genteel, 0:02:09.200,0:02:12.507 like that picture of the Old [br]South that’s a stereotype. 0:02:19.200,0:02:21.160 I had started to read the book Gone With the Wind 0:02:21.160,0:02:25.200 and was thrilled, with how, you know, 0:02:25.200,0:02:27.280 engrossing that story was, 0:02:27.280,0:02:29.840 and how grotesque it was at the same time… 0:02:32.840,0:02:35.320 the romance of it, the storytelling, 0:02:35.320,0:02:39.800 it was so rich and epic and [br]that was what I hadn't expected. 0:02:39.800,0:02:44.400 I hadn't expected to be titillated [br]in the way that, you know, 0:02:44.400,0:02:46.628 stories like that are meant to titillate. 0:02:48.240,0:02:52.535 It was so much fodder for [br]the work that I wanted to do. 0:02:57.880,0:03:00.480 The distressing part was always being caught up 0:03:00.480,0:03:03.075 in the voice of the heroine, Scarlet O'Hara. 0:03:04.400,0:03:06.840 Scarlet, in her desperation is, you know, 0:03:06.840,0:03:11.760 digging up dried-up roots and [br]tubers down by the slaves’ quarters 0:03:11.760,0:03:15.000 and she's overcome by a "niggery" scent? 0:03:16.104,0:03:17.674 and vomits? 0:03:19.640,0:03:22.880 And it's scenes like that, that you know, 0:03:22.880,0:03:29.640 might go washed over by the sort of [br]vast, epic structure of the story, 0:03:29.640,0:03:31.469 but that is an epic moment. 0:03:38.560,0:03:43.000 A lot of my work has been about the unexpected… 0:03:44.701,0:03:46.640 that kind of wanting to be the heroine 0:03:46.640,0:03:50.373 and yet wanting to kill the [br]heroine at the same time. 0:03:55.520,0:04:00.600 And, that kind of dilemma, that push and pull, 0:04:00.600,0:04:07.801 is the underlying turbulence that I [br]bring to each of the pieces that I make. 0:04:15.160,0:04:18.560 The silhouette lends itself to, you know, 0:04:18.560,0:04:23.534 avoidance of the subject, you know, [br]not being able to look at it directly. 0:04:30.200,0:04:34.720 My earliest memory of uh, wanting to be an artist– 0:04:34.720,0:04:38.440 uh, I was three, I was sitting on my dad’s lap 0:04:38.440,0:04:40.920 and he was drawing in his studio 0:04:40.920,0:04:45.200 which was the garage of our [br]house in Stockton, California. 0:04:45.200,0:04:47.720 And I remember thinking to myself that I, 0:04:47.720,0:04:49.408 I wanted to do what he did. 0:04:51.440,0:04:54.200 And he used to give me chalk [br]to draw on the sidewalk, 0:04:54.200,0:04:58.734 and you know he would you [br]know document my creations. 0:05:02.400,0:05:06.240 When we moved from California to Georgia, 0:05:06.240,0:05:10.119 I know that I was having nightmares [br]about moving to the South. 0:05:10.760,0:05:14.480 You know, the South already [br]was a place loaded with, 0:05:14.480,0:05:19.361 like I said, mythology, but also a [br]reality of, you know, viciousness. 0:05:21.680,0:05:24.720 It was just such a frightening prospect,[br] 0:05:25.240,0:05:29.400 to be sort of borderline [br]between child and teenager 0:05:29.400,0:05:33.935 and going into an environment where [br]black kids are being targeted. 0:05:41.200,0:05:45.845 Stone Mountain, Georgia is where [br]I did most of my growing up. 0:05:46.640,0:05:50.973 It’s like a Mount Rushmore type of [br]thing, of the confederate heroes. 0:05:52.320,0:05:55.800 That is pretty significant. 0:05:55.800,0:05:59.640 Stone Mountain was a haven for the Ku Klux Klan. 0:06:02.480,0:06:06.781 So that place had a little bit more resonance. 0:06:07.930,0:06:09.440 It was just so in your face. 0:06:09.440,0:06:11.658 There was no real hiding the fact. 0:06:14.640,0:06:19.640 You know, what black stands for in white America, 0:06:19.640,0:06:23.280 what white stands for in white [br]America are all loaded with 0:06:23.280,0:06:29.560 our deepest psychological [br]perversions and fears and longings. 0:06:37.560,0:06:41.240 Most of the pieces, I guess, have [br]to do with exchanges of power, 0:06:41.240,0:06:44.729 attempts to steal power away from others. 0:06:51.400,0:06:53.680 I was tracing outlines of… 0:06:53.680,0:06:56.196 of profiles you know thinking about uh, uh, 0:06:56.196,0:07:01.800 uh, physiognomy and racist sciences and minstrelsy 0:07:01.800,0:07:06.400 and the shadow and, and the dark side of the soul. 0:07:06.400,0:07:10.000 And and I thought well you [br]know I’ve got black paper here 0:07:10.000,0:07:14.240 and I was making silhouette paintings [br]but they weren’t the same thing. 0:07:14.240,0:07:17.920 And, and it seemed like the most obvious answer, 0:07:17.920,0:07:19.800 it took me forever to come to, just, 0:07:19.800,0:07:24.800 just to make a cut in the [br]surface of this black thing. 0:07:24.800,0:07:27.720 You know I had this black paper [br]and if I just made a cut in it, 0:07:27.720,0:07:33.680 I was creating a hole, you know and it was [br]like the whole world was in there for me. 0:07:47.760,0:07:50.280 I've always been interested in the melodramatic, 0:07:50.280,0:07:55.760 in outrageous gestures. I love history paintings… 0:07:56.360,0:07:59.160 this artistic, painterly conceit, 0:07:59.160,0:08:02.520 which is to make a painting a stage, 0:08:02.520,0:08:07.600 and to think of your characters, [br]your portraits or whomever, 0:08:07.600,0:08:09.527 as characters on that stage… 0:08:15.160,0:08:21.840 and to freeze-frame a moment [br]that is full of pain and blood[br] 0:08:21.840,0:08:24.112 and guts and drama and glory. 0:08:28.000,0:08:32.781 This work is two parts research [br]and one part paranoid hysteria. 0:08:37.000,0:08:38.440 It’s called “INSURRECTION. 0:08:38.440,0:08:41.524 Our tools were rudimentary, yet we pressed on”… 0:08:43.600,0:08:48.240 an image of a slave revolt [br]in the antebellum south uh, 0:08:48.240,0:08:52.840 where the house slaves got after their master 0:08:52.840,0:08:56.000 with their utensils of every day life 0:08:56.000,0:08:58.120 and really it started with a sketch of, 0:08:58.120,0:09:02.805 of a series of slaves disemboweling [br]a master with a soup ladle. 0:09:04.440,0:09:10.645 My reference in my mind was the surgical [br]theater paintings of Thomas Eakins. 0:09:12.920,0:09:15.840 Overhead projectors created a space where 0:09:15.840,0:09:21.200 the viewer’s shadow would also [br]be projected into the scene 0:09:21.200,0:09:25.406 so that maybe they would [br]you know, become implicated. 0:09:34.200,0:09:36.800 Overhead projectors are a didactic tool, 0:09:36.800,0:09:39.640 they’re a schoolroom tool, so they’re about, 0:09:39.640,0:09:42.936 I mean in my thinking they’re [br]about conveying facts. 0:09:44.040,0:09:49.446 The work that I do is about [br]projecting fictions into those facts. 0:10:10.680,0:10:17.480 I began to love the kind of self-promotion [br]surrounding the work of the silhouette artist. 0:10:17.480,0:10:18.640 You know they would have to uh, 0:10:18.640,0:10:22.480 show up in different towns [br]and advertise their skills 0:10:22.480,0:10:28.360 and sometimes very overblown language [br]describing their incredible skills, 0:10:28.360,0:10:29.433 you know able to cut you know in, in uh, 0:10:31.200,0:10:35.160 less than a minute you know, ten [br]seconds for your, your sitting, 0:10:35.160,0:10:38.600 for your likeness, accurate likenesses. 0:10:39.480,0:10:42.472 And I also begun to question this [br]whole idea of accurate likenesses. 0:10:47.000,0:10:50.309 The work takes on this narrative structure, 0:10:51.000,0:10:56.308 creates all the elements of the [br]story and I just need the viewer, 0:10:57.943,0:11:04.000 like an author needs a reader, you know, to [br]fill-in the rest of the tension of the story. 0:11:19.137,0:11:24.214 This is a book I made in 1997, [br]called “Freedom: A Fable. 0:11:25.120,0:11:29.240 A Curious Interpretation of the Wit [br]of a Negress in Troubled Times.” 0:11:34.280,0:11:38.400 The negress, as a term that I apply to myself, 0:11:38.400,0:11:41.360 is a real and artificial construct. 0:11:41.360,0:11:47.948 Everything I'm doing is trying to skirt [br]the line between fiction and reality. 0:11:53.920,0:11:58.080 It’s not just an examination of [br]race relations in America today. 0:11:58.080,0:11:59.480 I mean, that's a part of it. 0:11:59.480,0:12:01.640 It's a part of being an [br]African American woman artist, 0:12:01.640,0:12:07.480 but it's about how do you make [br]representations of your world, 0:12:07.480,0:12:09.701 given what you've been given?