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Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Welcome back, the next talk will be\NJan Kiszka
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on Getting more Debian into our\Ncivil infrastructure.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you Michael.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So my name is Jan Kiszka,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you may not know me, I'm not a Debian\NDeveloper, not a Debian Maintainer.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm just an upstream hacker.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm working for Siemens
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and part of the Linux team there\Nfor now 10 years actually,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more than 10 years.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are supporting our business units\Nin getting Linux into the products successfully
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for that long time, even longer actually.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Today, I'm representing a collaborative\Nproject that has some relationship
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with Debian, and more soon.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,First of all, maybe a surprise to some\Nof you,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our civilization is heavily running on Linux\Nand you may now think about
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this kind of devices where some kind of\NLinux inside,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or you may think of the cloud servers\Nrunning Linux inside.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But actually, this is about devices closer\Nto us.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In all our infrastructure,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there are control systems, there are\Nmanagement systems included
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and many many of them run Linux inside.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe if you are traveling with Deutsche\NBahn to this event these days,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there was some Linux system on the train\Nas well,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as they were on the ???,\Nso on the control side.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Energy generation.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Power plants, they are also run with Linux
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in very interesting ways, in positive ways
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Industry automation, the factories, they\Nhave control systems inside
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and quite a few are running Linux inside.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And also other systems like health care,\Ndiagnostic systems.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These big balls up there, they're magnetic\Nresonance imaging systems,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they're running on Linux for over\Na decade now.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Building automation, not at home but in\Nthe professional building area.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Actually, as I said, the train systems are\Ngoing to be more on Debian soon.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have Debian for quite a while in\Npower generation.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"We", in this case, Siemens.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have the box underneath,\Non the third row,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the industrial switch there is running\NDebian.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the health care device is still\Non Ubuntu, but soon will be Debian as well.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just to give some examples.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These are the areas where we, as a group,\Nand we, as Siemens, are active.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But there are some problems with this.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just take an example from a railway\Nsystem.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Usually, this kind of devices installation,\Nthey have a lifetime
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of 25, 30 years.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It used to be quite simple with these\Nold devices,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,simple in the sense that it was mechanic,\Nit was pretty robust
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was once told that one of these locking\Nsystems,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they were basically left in a box out there\Nfor 50 years and no one entered the ???
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No one touched the whole thing for 50 years
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These times are a little bit over.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nowadays, we have more electronic systems\Nin these systems
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they contain of course software.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What does it mean?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just to give you an idea, how this kind\Nof development looks like in this domain.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So ???
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,development takes quite a long time\Nuntil the product is ready,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,3 to 5 years.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then, in the railway domain, it's mostly\Nabout customizing the systems
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for specific installations of the railway\Nsystems,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not only in Europe, they are kind of messy\Nregarding the differences.\N
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you have specific requirements of the\Ncustomer, the railway operators
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to adjust these systems for their needs.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you see by then,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after 5 years already, a Debian version\Nwould be out of maintenance and
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you add an other year, you can start\Nover again.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, in the development time, you may\Nchange still the system
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but later on, it's getting hard to change\Nthe system ???
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because then the interesting parts start\Nin this domain, not only in this domain,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's safety and security assessment and\Napproval for these systems.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that also takes time.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For example, in Germany, you go for the\NEisenbahn ???
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you ask to get a permission to run\Nthat train on the track
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and if they say "Mmh, not happy with it",\Nyou do it over again
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it takes time
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and if you change something in the\Nsystem, it becomes interesting
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because some of these certification\Naspects become invalid,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you have to redo it.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then of course, these trains on\Nthe installation,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the have a long life as I mentioned\Nbefore.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So how do you deal with this in\Nan electronic device and
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in software-driven devices over\Nthis long phase?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's our challenge
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and just one example and there are\Nmore in this area.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At the same time, what we see now is\Nthese fancy buzzwords
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from cloud business entering\Nour conservative, slowly moving domain.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We talk about IoT, industrial IoT, so\Nconnected devices.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We talk about edge computing, it means\Ngetting the power of the cloud
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the device in the field, closer to\Nwhere the real things happen.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, networking becomes a topic.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the past, you basically built a system,\Nyou locked it up physically
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you never touched it again, except\Nthe customer complains that
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there were some bug inside.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These days, the customer asks us to\Ndo a frequent update.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And actually the customers ???\Nask for this.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you have to have some security\Nmaintenance concept in this
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which means regular updates, regular fixes
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that is of course ???\Nfor this kind of doing the way you have
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,slow running and long running\Nsupport cycles.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To summarize, there's a very long time\Nwe have to maintain our devices in the field
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so far, this was mostly done\Nindividually.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So each company, and sometimes quite\Nfrequently also inside the company,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,each product group, development ???\Ndid it individually.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So everyone was having their own kernel,\Neveryone was having their own base system,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was easy to build up so it should be\Neasy to maintain.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Of course it's not.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This was one thing, one important thing.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then, of course, we not always are\Ncompletely happy
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with what the free software gives us.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are some needs to make things\Nmore robust,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to make things more secure, reliable.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we have to work with these components\Nand improve them, mostly upstream,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that, of course, is not a challenge\Nwe have to address in this area.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And catch up with a trend coming in from\Nthe service space on the cloud space.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So with this challenge…
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was the point where we, in this case,\Na number of big users of
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,industrial open source systems,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,came together and created a new\Ncollaborative project.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's what you do in the open source\Narea.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This project is called Civil Infrastructure\NPlatform.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's under the umbrella of the Linux\NFoundation,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there are many projects of the Linux\NFoundation you may have seen,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but most of them are more in the area\Nof cloud computing
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or in the area of media.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Automotive computing, this one is actually\Neven more conservative than the other ones
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's also comparably small.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Our goal is to build this open source\Nbase layer for these application scenarios
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,based on free software, based on Linux.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We started two years ago.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's basically our structure, to give\Nyou an idea.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Member companies, the 3 on the top are\Nfounding platinum companies,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hitachi, Toshiba and Siemens.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have Codethink and Plat'Home\Non board,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we had them on board for the first time\Nas well.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Renesas joined us and just recently also\NMoxa.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So if you compare this with other\Ncollaborative projects,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's a pretty small one, comparatively\Nsmall one,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so our budget is also limited.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's still decent enough, but, well,\Nwe are growing.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And based on this budget, we have\Nsome developers being paid,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ben is paid this way, you will see\Nlater on why.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we have people working from\Nthe companies in the communities
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we are ramping up on working with\Ncommunities
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to improve the base layers for our needs.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everything is open source, we have\Na GitLab repo as well and
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can look up there what's going on there.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, the main areas of activities where\Nwe are working on right now.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,4 areas.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Kernel maintenance,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we started with declaring one kernel as\Nthe CIP kernel to have
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an extended support phase for this kernel\Nof 10 years.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is what we're aiming for, which is\Nfeasible already
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for some enterprise distros\Nin a specific area
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but here we are talking about an industrial\Narea, an embedded area
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so there is some challenge.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm saying 10 years, there's sometimes\Nwritten 15 years,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we will see after 10 years if we follow\Non to this.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Along with this, of course, comes the need\Nfor real time support.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Currently, it's a separated branch, but\Nit's going to be integrated eventually
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to have the PREEMPT_RT branch \N??? doing this.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As I mentioned before, Ben is currently\Nour 4.4 CIP kernel maintainer.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the core, basically where we\Nstarted activities.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We continued in extending this on\Ntest infrastructure,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so we invested a bit in improving on\N??? infrastructure,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we are now ramping up an internal\N??? just to enable
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the kernel testing of course.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then, that's actually what I'd like\Nto talk about today a bit more,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's a CIP core.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The kernel alone doesn't make a system,\Nyou need a user space,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you need a user land and that's basically\Nwhere we are now focusing on,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ramping up.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Our activity is to define this CIP core,\Nmeans a base system,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,user space base system which you want\Nto maintain as long as the kernel,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so an other 10 years thing.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Our group had a couple of members which\Nwere already familiar with Debian before.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it was pretty easy for that group\Nto decide on
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,choosing Debian as the base source\Nfor our core, CIP core package.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, why was Debian chosen?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, it has an outstanding maturity and\Na focus on stability,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so we are pretty much aligned regarding\Nhow conservative we see certain things
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is a positive thing for us.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It has very professional security properties\Nbut we also rely on heavily.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And also another interesting aspect for us\Nis the license hygiene that you are after
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to ensure that there is only free software\Nin these packages
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that is properly documented.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We, when we are using and redistributing\Nsoftware,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in contrast to, for example, the service space
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when you don't usually redistribute things,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we are redistributing devices, so we are\Nredistributing software,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we have to take care of the licenses\Nthat we are redistributing
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that we are compliant with all these\Nlicenses included.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it's very important for us that this is\Na consistent picture we get from the package.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Someone looked at this already, we are still\Nlooking ourselves on this
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but that's a very important thing.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,With these characters, we chose Debian\Nas the base system.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, what does it mean right now?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are currently in the process to select\Nthe core packages from the Debian packages
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is still a little bit of ???\Nobviously.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we are already working with Debian on\Ncertain long term support aspects
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just to mention 2 activities,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we were sponsoring already the staging\Nrepo for security master.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Actually I'm ??? aware of the current\Nstate of the project
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but we got the feedback that it's\Napparently a valuable thing for LTS activity
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We just joined LTS platinum sponsoring\Nand we are now involved in discussion
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for this extended LTS activity,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so anything beyond 5 years
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in the end, that's what we committed\Nto our users.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We want to ensure that for the base system\Nthe 10 years is reached.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Of course, ideally, in the community,\Nnot only based on our personal activities
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but in the end, we have to fill the gap
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that's basically our commitment\Non this.