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Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Welcome back, the next talk will be\NJan Kiszka
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on Getting more Debian into our\Ncivil infrastructure.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you Michael.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So my name is Jan Kiszka,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you may not know me, I'm not a Debian\NDeveloper, not a Debian Maintainer.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm just an upstream hacker.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm working for Siemens
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and part of the Linux team there\Nfor now 10 years actually,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more than 10 years.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are supporting our business units\Nin getting Linux into the products successfully
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for that long time, even longer actually.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Today, I'm representing a collaborative\Nproject that has some relationship
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with Debian, and more soon.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,First of all, maybe a surprise to some\Nof you,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our civilization is heavily running on Linux\Nand you may now think about
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this kind of devices where some kind of\NLinux inside,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or you may think of the cloud servers\Nrunning Linux inside.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But actually, this is about devices closer\Nto us.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In all our infrastructure,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there are control systems, there are\Nmanagement systems included
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and many many of them run Linux inside.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe if you are traveling with Deutsche\NBahn to this event these days,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there was some Linux system on the train\Nas well,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as they were on the ???,\Nso on the control side.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Energy generation.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Power plants, they are also run with Linux
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in very interesting ways, in positive ways
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Industry automation, the factories, they\Nhave control systems inside
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and quite a few are running Linux inside.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And also other systems like health care,\Ndiagnostic systems.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These big balls up there, they're magnetic\Nresonance imaging systems,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they're running on Linux for over\Na decade now.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Building automation, not at home but in\Nthe professional building area.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Actually, as I said, the train systems are\Ngoing to be more on Debian soon.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have Debian for quite a while in\Npower generation.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"We", in this case, Siemens.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have the box underneath,\Non the third row,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the industrial switch there is running\NDebian.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the health care device is still\Non Ubuntu, but soon will be Debian as well.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just to give some examples.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These are the areas where we, as a group,\Nand we, as Siemens, are active.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But there are some problems with this.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just take an example from a railway\Nsystem.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Usually, this kind of devices installation,\Nthey have a lifetime
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of 25, 30 years.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It used to be quite simple with these\Nold devices,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,simple in the sense that it was mechanic,\Nit was pretty robust
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was once told that one of these locking\Nsystems,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they were basically left in a box out there\Nfor 50 years and no one entered the ???
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No one touched the whole thing for 50 years
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These times are a little bit over.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nowadays, we have more electronic systems\Nin these systems
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they contain of course software.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What does it mean?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just to give you an idea, how this kind\Nof development looks like in this domain.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So ???
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,development takes quite a long time\Nuntil the product is ready,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,3 to 5 years.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then, in the railway domain, it's mostly\Nabout customizing the systems
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for specific installations of the railway\Nsystems,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not only in Europe, they are kind of messy\Nregarding the differences.\N
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you have specific requirements of the\Ncustomer, the railway operators
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to adjust these systems for their needs.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you see by then,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after 5 years already, a Debian version\Nwould be out of maintenance and
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you add an other year, you can start\Nover again.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, in the development time, you may\Nchange still the system
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but later on, it's getting hard to change\Nthe system ???
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because then the interesting parts start\Nin this domain, not only in this domain,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's safety and security assessment and\Napproval for these systems.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that also takes time.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For example, in Germany, you go for the\NEisenbahn ???
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you ask to get a permission to run\Nthat train on the track
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and if they say "Mmh, not happy with it",\Nyou do it over again
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it takes time
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and if you change something in the\Nsystem, it becomes interesting
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because some of these certification\Naspects become invalid,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you have to redo it.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then of course, these trains on\Nthe installation,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the have a long life as I mentioned\Nbefore.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So how do you deal with this in\Nan electronic device and
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in software-driven devices over\Nthis long phase?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That our challenge