1 00:00:00,674 --> 00:00:02,656 So, let me add to the complexity 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:05,246 of the situation we find ourselves in. 3 00:00:05,270 --> 00:00:09,596 At the same time that we're solving for climate change, 4 00:00:09,620 --> 00:00:13,423 we're going to be building cities for three billion people. 5 00:00:14,577 --> 00:00:17,185 That's a doubling of the urban environment. 6 00:00:17,907 --> 00:00:19,580 If we don't get that right, 7 00:00:19,604 --> 00:00:24,135 I'm not sure all the climate solutions in the world will save mankind, 8 00:00:24,807 --> 00:00:28,582 because so much depends on how we shape our cities: 9 00:00:28,606 --> 00:00:30,836 not just environmental impacts, 10 00:00:30,860 --> 00:00:32,496 but our social well-being, 11 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:34,802 our economic vitality, 12 00:00:34,826 --> 00:00:37,625 our sense of community and connectedness. 13 00:00:38,154 --> 00:00:41,325 Fundamentally, the way we shape cities is a manifestation 14 00:00:41,349 --> 00:00:44,008 of the kind of humanity we bring to bear. 15 00:00:44,032 --> 00:00:47,142 And so getting it right is, I think, 16 00:00:47,166 --> 00:00:48,812 the order of the day. 17 00:00:48,836 --> 00:00:52,464 And to a certain degree, getting it right can help us solve climate change, 18 00:00:52,488 --> 00:00:53,640 because in the end, 19 00:00:53,664 --> 00:00:57,092 it's our behavior that seems to be driving the problem. 20 00:00:57,116 --> 00:00:58,994 The problem isn't free-floating, 21 00:00:59,018 --> 00:01:02,924 and it isn't just ExxonMobil and oil companies. 22 00:01:02,948 --> 00:01:04,661 It's us; how we live. 23 00:01:06,341 --> 00:01:07,560 How we live. 24 00:01:08,044 --> 00:01:09,609 There's a villain in this story. 25 00:01:09,633 --> 00:01:13,146 It's called sprawl, and I'll be upfront about that. 26 00:01:13,170 --> 00:01:16,955 But it's not just the kind of sprawl you think of, or many people think of, 27 00:01:16,979 --> 00:01:18,609 as low-density development 28 00:01:18,633 --> 00:01:21,281 out at the periphery of the metropolitan area. 29 00:01:22,132 --> 00:01:26,652 Actually, I think sprawl can happen anywhere, at any density. 30 00:01:27,340 --> 00:01:30,497 The key attribute is that it isolates people. 31 00:01:31,054 --> 00:01:34,944 It segregates people into economic enclaves 32 00:01:34,968 --> 00:01:36,560 and land-use enclaves. 33 00:01:36,584 --> 00:01:38,680 It separates them from nature. 34 00:01:38,704 --> 00:01:41,858 It doesn't allow the cross-fertilization, 35 00:01:41,882 --> 00:01:43,146 the interaction, 36 00:01:43,170 --> 00:01:45,593 that make cities great places 37 00:01:45,617 --> 00:01:47,863 and that make society thrive. 38 00:01:48,389 --> 00:01:53,131 So the antidote to sprawl is really what we all need to be thinking about, 39 00:01:53,155 --> 00:01:57,578 especially when we're taking on this massive construction project. 40 00:01:58,105 --> 00:02:00,590 So let me take you through one exercise. 41 00:02:00,614 --> 00:02:04,380 We developed the model for the state of California 42 00:02:04,404 --> 00:02:07,487 so they could get on with reducing carbon emissions. 43 00:02:08,046 --> 00:02:13,542 We did a whole series of scenarios for how the state could grow, 44 00:02:13,566 --> 00:02:16,689 and this is just one overly simplified one. 45 00:02:16,713 --> 00:02:19,509 We mixed different development prototypes 46 00:02:19,533 --> 00:02:23,344 and said they're going to carry us through the year 2050, 47 00:02:23,368 --> 00:02:28,124 10 million new crew in our state of California. 48 00:02:28,691 --> 00:02:29,943 And one was sprawl. 49 00:02:29,967 --> 00:02:33,499 It's just more of the same: shopping malls, subdivisions, 50 00:02:33,523 --> 00:02:34,707 office parks. 51 00:02:34,731 --> 00:02:38,521 The other one was dominated by, not everybody moving to the city, 52 00:02:38,545 --> 00:02:40,228 but just compact development, 53 00:02:40,252 --> 00:02:42,810 what we used to think of as streetcar suburbs, 54 00:02:42,834 --> 00:02:44,073 walkable neighborhoods, 55 00:02:44,097 --> 00:02:48,362 low-rise, but integrated, mixed-used environments. 56 00:02:48,969 --> 00:02:51,405 And the results are astounding. 57 00:02:51,429 --> 00:02:54,592 They're astounding not just for the scale of the difference 58 00:02:54,616 --> 00:02:58,851 of this one shift in our city-making habit 59 00:02:58,875 --> 00:03:03,589 but also because each one represents a special interest group, 60 00:03:04,233 --> 00:03:08,622 a special interest group that used to advocate for their concerns 61 00:03:08,646 --> 00:03:09,811 one at a time. 62 00:03:09,835 --> 00:03:14,934 They did not see the, what I call, "co-benefits" of urban form 63 00:03:14,958 --> 00:03:17,433 that allows them to join with others. 64 00:03:17,457 --> 00:03:19,045 So, land consumption: 65 00:03:19,069 --> 00:03:21,883 environmentalists are really concerned about this, 66 00:03:21,907 --> 00:03:23,092 so are farmers; 67 00:03:23,696 --> 00:03:25,918 there's a whole range of people, 68 00:03:25,942 --> 00:03:29,329 and, of course, neighborhood groups that want open space nearby. 69 00:03:29,861 --> 00:03:31,947 The sprawl version of California 70 00:03:31,971 --> 00:03:35,597 almost doubles the urban physical footprint. 71 00:03:36,429 --> 00:03:39,104 Greenhouse gas: tremendous savings, 72 00:03:39,128 --> 00:03:43,943 because in California, our biggest carbon emission comes from cars, 73 00:03:43,967 --> 00:03:47,667 and cities that don't depend on cars as much 74 00:03:47,691 --> 00:03:50,738 obviously create huge savings. 75 00:03:51,601 --> 00:03:54,677 Vehicle miles traveled: that's what I was just talking about. 76 00:03:54,701 --> 00:03:59,686 Just reducing the average 10,000 miles per household per year, 77 00:03:59,710 --> 00:04:05,040 from somewhere in the mid-26,000 per household, 78 00:04:05,064 --> 00:04:09,944 has a huge impact not just on air quality and carbon 79 00:04:09,968 --> 00:04:12,539 but also on the household pocketbook. 80 00:04:12,563 --> 00:04:15,556 It's very expensive to drive that much, 81 00:04:15,580 --> 00:04:16,972 and as we've seen, 82 00:04:16,996 --> 00:04:19,511 the middle class is struggling to hold on. 83 00:04:20,313 --> 00:04:24,298 Health care: we were talking about how do you fix it once we broke it -- 84 00:04:24,322 --> 00:04:25,481 clean the air. 85 00:04:25,505 --> 00:04:27,496 Why not just stop polluting? 86 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,948 Why not just use our feet and bikes more? 87 00:04:30,972 --> 00:04:34,163 And that's a function of the kinds of cities that we shape. 88 00:04:35,314 --> 00:04:36,706 Household costs: 89 00:04:37,243 --> 00:04:39,541 2008 was a mark in time, 90 00:04:39,565 --> 00:04:43,127 not of just the financial industry running amok. 91 00:04:43,643 --> 00:04:48,302 It was that we were trying to sell too many of the wrong kind of housing: 92 00:04:48,326 --> 00:04:51,277 large lot, single family, distant, 93 00:04:51,301 --> 00:04:55,502 too expensive for the average middle-class family to afford 94 00:04:55,526 --> 00:04:59,128 and, quite frankly, not a good fit to their lifestyle anymore. 95 00:04:59,152 --> 00:05:01,068 But in order to move inventory, 96 00:05:01,466 --> 00:05:04,672 you can discount the financing and get it sold. 97 00:05:04,696 --> 00:05:06,544 I think that's a lot of what happened. 98 00:05:06,568 --> 00:05:09,234 Reducing cost by 10,000 dollars -- 99 00:05:09,258 --> 00:05:12,095 remember, in California the median is 50,000 -- 100 00:05:12,119 --> 00:05:14,000 this is a big element. 101 00:05:14,024 --> 00:05:16,653 That's just cars and utility costs. 102 00:05:16,677 --> 00:05:20,877 So the affordable housing advocates, who often sit off in their silos 103 00:05:20,901 --> 00:05:25,365 separate from the environmentalists, separate from the politicians, 104 00:05:25,389 --> 00:05:27,367 everybody fighting with everyone, 105 00:05:27,391 --> 00:05:29,309 now begin to see common cause, 106 00:05:29,333 --> 00:05:32,769 and I think the common cause is what really brings about the change. 107 00:05:33,837 --> 00:05:36,717 Los Angeles, as a result of these efforts, 108 00:05:36,741 --> 00:05:39,765 has now decided to transform itself 109 00:05:39,789 --> 00:05:43,161 into a more transit-oriented environment. 110 00:05:43,185 --> 00:05:44,919 As a matter of fact, since '08, 111 00:05:44,943 --> 00:05:48,892 they've voted in 400 billion dollars of bonds for transit 112 00:05:48,916 --> 00:05:51,765 and zero dollars for new highways. 113 00:05:51,789 --> 00:05:52,957 What a transformation: 114 00:05:52,981 --> 00:05:56,312 LA becomes a city of walkers and transit, 115 00:05:56,336 --> 00:05:57,515 not a city of cars. 116 00:05:57,539 --> 00:05:58,546 (Applause) 117 00:05:58,570 --> 00:05:59,770 How does it happen? 118 00:05:59,794 --> 00:06:01,931 You take the least desirable land, the strip, 119 00:06:01,955 --> 00:06:04,002 you add where there's space, transit 120 00:06:04,026 --> 00:06:08,289 and then you infill mixed-use development, 121 00:06:08,313 --> 00:06:10,496 you satisfy new housing demands 122 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:12,511 and you make the existing neighborhoods 123 00:06:12,535 --> 00:06:14,000 all around it more complex, 124 00:06:14,024 --> 00:06:15,929 more interesting, more walkable. 125 00:06:16,840 --> 00:06:19,073 Here's another kind of sprawl: 126 00:06:19,787 --> 00:06:23,295 China, high-density sprawl, what you think of as an oxymoron, 127 00:06:23,319 --> 00:06:26,753 but the same problems, everything isolated in superblocks, 128 00:06:26,777 --> 00:06:30,305 and of course this amazing smog that was just spoken to. 129 00:06:30,329 --> 00:06:33,558 Twelve percent of GDP in China now is spent 130 00:06:33,582 --> 00:06:35,779 on the health impacts of that. 131 00:06:35,803 --> 00:06:39,068 The history, of course, of Chinese cities is robust. 132 00:06:39,092 --> 00:06:40,344 It's like any other place. 133 00:06:40,368 --> 00:06:43,380 Community was all about small, local shops 134 00:06:43,404 --> 00:06:47,547 and local services and walking, interacting with your neighbors. 135 00:06:47,571 --> 00:06:49,695 It may sound utopian, but it's not. 136 00:06:49,719 --> 00:06:51,686 It's actually what people really want. 137 00:06:51,710 --> 00:06:53,257 The new superblocks -- 138 00:06:53,281 --> 00:06:57,201 these are blocks that would have 5,000 units in them, 139 00:06:57,225 --> 00:07:01,037 and they're gated as well, because nobody knows anybody else. 140 00:07:01,061 --> 00:07:04,561 And of course, there isn't even a sidewalk, no ground floor shops -- 141 00:07:04,585 --> 00:07:06,449 a very sterile environment. 142 00:07:07,018 --> 00:07:11,634 I found this one case here in one of the superblocks 143 00:07:11,658 --> 00:07:14,884 where people had illicitly set up shops in their garages 144 00:07:14,908 --> 00:07:18,606 so that they could have that kind of local service economy. 145 00:07:18,630 --> 00:07:23,387 The desire of people to get it right is there. 146 00:07:23,411 --> 00:07:26,699 We just have to get the planners on board and the politicians. 147 00:07:27,162 --> 00:07:30,969 All right. Some technical planning stuff. 148 00:07:30,993 --> 00:07:34,166 Chongqing is a city of 30 million people. 149 00:07:34,190 --> 00:07:36,553 It's almost as big as California. 150 00:07:36,577 --> 00:07:38,267 This is a small growth area. 151 00:07:38,291 --> 00:07:41,903 They wanted us to test the alternative to sprawl 152 00:07:41,927 --> 00:07:44,701 in several cities across China. 153 00:07:45,072 --> 00:07:48,354 This is for four-and-a-half million people. 154 00:07:48,378 --> 00:07:50,309 What the takeaway from this image is, 155 00:07:50,333 --> 00:07:52,982 every one of those circles is a walking radius 156 00:07:53,006 --> 00:07:54,622 around a transit station -- 157 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:58,235 massive investment in metro and BRT, 158 00:07:58,944 --> 00:08:01,276 and a distribution that allows everybody 159 00:08:01,300 --> 00:08:03,911 to work within walking distance of that. 160 00:08:03,935 --> 00:08:06,232 The red area, this is a blow-up. 161 00:08:06,256 --> 00:08:09,413 All of a sudden, our principles called for green space 162 00:08:09,437 --> 00:08:13,127 preserving the important ecological features. 163 00:08:13,151 --> 00:08:17,478 And then those other streets in there are auto-free streets. 164 00:08:17,502 --> 00:08:21,125 So instead of bulldozing, leveling the site 165 00:08:21,149 --> 00:08:23,212 and building right up to the river, 166 00:08:23,236 --> 00:08:27,460 this green edge was something that really wasn't normative in China 167 00:08:27,484 --> 00:08:30,055 until these set of practices 168 00:08:30,079 --> 00:08:32,633 began experimentation there. 169 00:08:33,063 --> 00:08:35,018 The urban fabric, small blocks, 170 00:08:35,042 --> 00:08:37,658 maybe 500 families per block. 171 00:08:37,682 --> 00:08:38,951 They know each other. 172 00:08:38,975 --> 00:08:41,338 The street perimeter has shops 173 00:08:41,362 --> 00:08:43,284 so there's local destinations. 174 00:08:43,308 --> 00:08:45,663 And the streets themselves become smaller, 175 00:08:45,687 --> 00:08:47,217 because there are more of them. 176 00:08:47,241 --> 00:08:48,792 Very simple, 177 00:08:48,816 --> 00:08:51,371 straightforward urban design. 178 00:08:51,395 --> 00:08:54,605 Now, here you have something I dearly love. 179 00:08:54,629 --> 00:08:55,903 Think of the logic. 180 00:08:56,352 --> 00:08:58,499 If only a third of the people have cars, 181 00:08:58,523 --> 00:09:02,287 why do we give 100 percent of our streets to cars? 182 00:09:02,928 --> 00:09:06,107 What if we gave 70 percent of the streets 183 00:09:06,131 --> 00:09:08,306 to car-free, to everybody else, 184 00:09:08,330 --> 00:09:10,575 so that the transit could move well for them, 185 00:09:10,599 --> 00:09:12,924 so that they could walk, so they could bike? 186 00:09:12,948 --> 00:09:14,346 Why not have -- 187 00:09:14,370 --> 00:09:15,823 (Applause) 188 00:09:15,847 --> 00:09:18,000 geographic equity 189 00:09:18,024 --> 00:09:20,395 in our circulation system? 190 00:09:20,698 --> 00:09:24,091 And quite frankly, cities would function better. 191 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:25,770 No matter what they do, 192 00:09:25,794 --> 00:09:28,224 no matter how many ring roads they build in Beijing, 193 00:09:28,248 --> 00:09:31,176 they just can't overcome complete gridlock. 194 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:34,888 So this is an auto-free street, mixed use along the edge. 195 00:09:35,666 --> 00:09:37,525 It has transit running down the middle. 196 00:09:37,549 --> 00:09:40,653 I'm happy to make that transit autonomous vehicles, 197 00:09:40,677 --> 00:09:43,587 but maybe I'll have a chance to talk about that later. 198 00:09:43,611 --> 00:09:47,334 So there are seven principles that have now been adopted 199 00:09:47,358 --> 00:09:50,058 by the highest levels in the Chinese government, 200 00:09:50,082 --> 00:09:51,877 and they're moving to implement them. 201 00:09:51,901 --> 00:09:53,063 And they're simple, 202 00:09:53,087 --> 00:09:55,700 and they are globally, I think, universal principles. 203 00:09:55,724 --> 00:09:59,377 One is to preserve the natural environment, the history 204 00:09:59,401 --> 00:10:01,368 and the critical agriculture. 205 00:10:02,306 --> 00:10:03,629 Second is mix. 206 00:10:03,653 --> 00:10:06,170 Mixed use is popular, but when I say mixed, 207 00:10:06,194 --> 00:10:08,633 I mean mixed incomes, mixed age groups 208 00:10:08,657 --> 00:10:11,149 as well as mixed-land use. 209 00:10:12,190 --> 00:10:13,344 Walk. 210 00:10:13,368 --> 00:10:16,388 There's no great city that you don't enjoy walking in. 211 00:10:16,412 --> 00:10:17,730 You don't go there. 212 00:10:17,754 --> 00:10:20,306 The places you go on vacation are places you can walk. 213 00:10:20,330 --> 00:10:22,092 Why not make it everywhere? 214 00:10:22,561 --> 00:10:26,133 Bike is the most efficient means of transportation we know. 215 00:10:26,506 --> 00:10:30,254 China has now adopted policies that put six meters of bike lane 216 00:10:30,278 --> 00:10:31,607 on every street. 217 00:10:31,631 --> 00:10:35,573 They're serious about getting back to their biking history. 218 00:10:35,597 --> 00:10:37,053 (Applause) 219 00:10:37,077 --> 00:10:39,380 Complicated planner-ese here: 220 00:10:39,404 --> 00:10:40,733 connect. 221 00:10:40,757 --> 00:10:44,269 It's a street network that allows many routes 222 00:10:44,293 --> 00:10:46,104 instead of singular routes 223 00:10:46,128 --> 00:10:49,675 and provides many kinds of streets instead of just one. 224 00:10:50,752 --> 00:10:52,096 Ride. 225 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,430 We have to invest more in transit. 226 00:10:54,454 --> 00:10:56,229 There's no silver bullet. 227 00:10:56,253 --> 00:10:59,317 Autonomous vehicles are not going to solve this for us. 228 00:10:59,341 --> 00:11:04,507 As a matter of fact, they're going to generate more traffic, more VMT, 229 00:11:04,531 --> 00:11:05,893 than the alternative. 230 00:11:05,917 --> 00:11:07,131 And focus. 231 00:11:07,155 --> 00:11:11,311 We have a hierarchy of the city based on transit 232 00:11:11,335 --> 00:11:14,498 rather than the old armature of freeways. 233 00:11:14,522 --> 00:11:16,672 It's a big paradigm shift, 234 00:11:17,245 --> 00:11:19,912 but those two things have to get reconnected 235 00:11:19,936 --> 00:11:24,456 in ways that really shape the structure of the city. 236 00:11:25,443 --> 00:11:27,676 So I'm very hopeful. 237 00:11:27,700 --> 00:11:32,473 In California, the United States, China -- these changes are well accepted. 238 00:11:32,497 --> 00:11:35,132 I'm hopeful for two reasons. 239 00:11:35,156 --> 00:11:37,235 One is, most people get it. 240 00:11:37,259 --> 00:11:39,141 They understand intrinsically 241 00:11:39,165 --> 00:11:41,807 what a great city can and should be. 242 00:11:41,831 --> 00:11:46,672 The second is that the kind of analysis we can bring to bear now 243 00:11:46,696 --> 00:11:49,424 allows people to connect the dots, 244 00:11:49,936 --> 00:11:52,905 allows people to shape political coalitions 245 00:11:52,929 --> 00:11:54,358 that didn't exist in the past. 246 00:11:54,719 --> 00:11:58,459 That allows them to bring into being the kinds of communities we all need. 247 00:11:58,483 --> 00:11:59,672 Thank you. 248 00:11:59,696 --> 00:12:06,273 (Applause) 249 00:12:08,018 --> 00:12:11,455 Chris Anderson: So, OK: autonomous driving, self-driving cars. 250 00:12:11,479 --> 00:12:14,824 A lot of people here are very excited about them. 251 00:12:15,443 --> 00:12:18,402 What are your concerns or issues about them? 252 00:12:18,426 --> 00:12:21,568 Peter Calthorpe: Well, I think there's almost too much hype here. 253 00:12:21,592 --> 00:12:25,166 First is, everybody says we're going to get rid of a lot of cars. 254 00:12:25,190 --> 00:12:28,484 What they don't say is you're going to get a lot more vehicle miles. 255 00:12:28,508 --> 00:12:31,055 You're going to get a lot more cars moving on streets. 256 00:12:31,079 --> 00:12:32,948 There will be more congestion. 257 00:12:32,972 --> 00:12:35,280 CA: Because they're so appealing -- 258 00:12:35,304 --> 00:12:37,358 you can drive while reading or sleeping. 259 00:12:37,382 --> 00:12:38,879 PC: Well, a couple of reasons. 260 00:12:38,903 --> 00:12:42,874 One is, if they're privately owned, people will travel greater distances. 261 00:12:42,898 --> 00:12:44,839 It'll be a new lease on life to sprawl. 262 00:12:44,863 --> 00:12:46,878 If you can work on your way to work, 263 00:12:46,902 --> 00:12:48,969 you can live in more remote locations. 264 00:12:48,993 --> 00:12:51,535 It'll revitalize sprawl 265 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:53,892 in a way that I'm deeply frightened. 266 00:12:53,916 --> 00:12:55,770 Taxis: 267 00:12:55,794 --> 00:12:59,542 about 50 percent of the surveys say that people won't share them. 268 00:12:59,566 --> 00:13:00,940 If they don't share them, 269 00:13:00,964 --> 00:13:06,161 you can end up with a 90 percent increase in vehicle miles traveled. 270 00:13:06,597 --> 00:13:07,918 If you share them, 271 00:13:07,942 --> 00:13:11,472 you're still at around a 30 percent increase in VMT. 272 00:13:11,496 --> 00:13:14,534 CA: Sharing them, meaning having multiple people riding at once 273 00:13:14,558 --> 00:13:16,534 in some sort of intelligent ride-sharing? 274 00:13:16,558 --> 00:13:19,089 PC: Yeah, so the Uber share without a steering wheel. 275 00:13:19,113 --> 00:13:22,962 The reality is, the efficiency of vehicles -- you can do it 276 00:13:22,986 --> 00:13:25,477 with or without a steering wheel, it doesn't matter. 277 00:13:25,501 --> 00:13:28,994 They claim they're the only ones that are going to be efficient electric, 278 00:13:29,018 --> 00:13:30,172 but that's not true. 279 00:13:30,196 --> 00:13:33,766 But the real bottom line is that walking, biking and transit 280 00:13:33,790 --> 00:13:36,954 are the way cities and communities thrive. 281 00:13:36,978 --> 00:13:39,785 And putting people in their private bubbles, 282 00:13:39,809 --> 00:13:42,106 whether they have a steering wheel or not, 283 00:13:42,130 --> 00:13:43,701 is the wrong direction. 284 00:13:43,725 --> 00:13:44,876 And quite frankly, 285 00:13:44,900 --> 00:13:50,579 the image of an AV on its way to McDonald's to pick up a pack 286 00:13:50,603 --> 00:13:52,287 without its owner, 287 00:13:52,311 --> 00:13:56,021 just being sent off on these kind of random errands 288 00:13:56,045 --> 00:13:57,442 is really frightening to me. 289 00:13:57,466 --> 00:14:00,824 CA: Well, thank you for that, and I have to say, the images you showed 290 00:14:00,848 --> 00:14:04,024 of those mixed-use streets were really inspiring, really beautiful. 291 00:14:04,048 --> 00:14:06,207 PC: Thank you. CA: Thank you for your work. 292 00:14:06,231 --> 00:14:07,690 (Applause)