1 00:00:00,779 --> 00:00:02,680 So let me add to the complexity 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:05,457 of the situation we find ourselves in. 3 00:00:05,457 --> 00:00:09,807 At the same time that we're solving for climate change, 4 00:00:09,807 --> 00:00:11,649 we're going to be building cities 5 00:00:11,649 --> 00:00:14,784 for three billion people. 6 00:00:14,784 --> 00:00:18,074 That's a doubling of the urban environment. 7 00:00:18,074 --> 00:00:19,770 If we don't get that right, 8 00:00:19,770 --> 00:00:22,156 I'm not sure all the climate solutions 9 00:00:22,156 --> 00:00:24,990 in the world will save mankind, 10 00:00:24,990 --> 00:00:29,355 because so much depends on how we shape our cities, 11 00:00:29,355 --> 00:00:31,083 not just environmental impacts, 12 00:00:31,083 --> 00:00:32,742 but our social well beling, 13 00:00:32,742 --> 00:00:34,628 our economic vitality, 14 00:00:34,628 --> 00:00:38,226 our sense of community and connectedness. 15 00:00:38,226 --> 00:00:40,741 Fundamentally, the way we shape cities 16 00:00:40,741 --> 00:00:44,260 is a manifestation of the kind of humanity we bring to bear, 17 00:00:44,260 --> 00:00:47,166 and so getting it right is, I think, 18 00:00:47,166 --> 00:00:49,472 the order of the day. 19 00:00:49,472 --> 00:00:52,500 And to a certain degree, getting it right can help us solve climate change, 20 00:00:52,500 --> 00:00:55,022 because in the end, it's our behavior 21 00:00:55,022 --> 00:00:57,243 that seems to be driving the problem. 22 00:00:57,243 --> 00:00:59,144 The problem isn't free-floating, 23 00:00:59,144 --> 00:01:01,049 and it isn't just ExxonMobil 24 00:01:01,049 --> 00:01:03,245 and oil companies, 25 00:01:03,245 --> 00:01:05,195 it's us, 26 00:01:05,195 --> 00:01:06,398 how we live, 27 00:01:06,398 --> 00:01:08,203 how we live. 28 00:01:08,203 --> 00:01:09,791 There's a villain in this story. 29 00:01:09,791 --> 00:01:11,604 It's called sprawl, 30 00:01:11,604 --> 00:01:13,326 and I'll be up front about that, 31 00:01:13,326 --> 00:01:15,865 but it's not just the kind of sprawl you think of or many people think of 32 00:01:15,865 --> 00:01:18,742 as low-density development 33 00:01:18,742 --> 00:01:22,344 out the periphery of the metropolitan area. 34 00:01:22,344 --> 00:01:24,899 Actually, I think that sprawl can happen anywhere 35 00:01:24,899 --> 00:01:29,332 at any density. 36 00:01:29,332 --> 00:01:31,176 The key attribute is that it isolates people. 37 00:01:31,176 --> 00:01:35,056 It segregates people into economic enclaves 38 00:01:35,056 --> 00:01:36,792 and land use enclaves. 39 00:01:36,792 --> 00:01:38,911 It separates them from nature. 40 00:01:38,911 --> 00:01:42,088 It doesn't allow the cross-fertilization, 41 00:01:42,088 --> 00:01:45,817 the interaction that make cities great places 42 00:01:45,817 --> 00:01:48,691 and that make society thrive. 43 00:01:48,691 --> 00:01:53,288 And so the antidote to sprawl is really what we'll need to be thinking about, 44 00:01:53,288 --> 00:01:58,367 especially when we're taking on this massive construction project. 45 00:01:58,367 --> 00:02:01,302 So let me take you through one exercise. 46 00:02:01,302 --> 00:02:01,552 We did this -- 47 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,058 We developed the model for the state of California 48 00:02:06,058 --> 00:02:07,582 so they could get on with reducing 49 00:02:07,582 --> 00:02:08,562 carbon emissions. 50 00:02:08,562 --> 00:02:11,768 We did a whole series of scenarios 51 00:02:11,768 --> 00:02:13,669 for how the state could grow, 52 00:02:13,669 --> 00:02:16,867 and this is just one overly simplified one. 53 00:02:16,867 --> 00:02:19,686 We mixed different development prototypes 54 00:02:19,686 --> 00:02:21,563 and said they're going to carry us 55 00:02:21,563 --> 00:02:23,519 through the year 2050, 56 00:02:23,519 --> 00:02:26,518 10 million new crew 57 00:02:26,518 --> 00:02:28,882 in our state of California. 58 00:02:28,882 --> 00:02:30,356 And one was sprawl. 59 00:02:30,356 --> 00:02:31,683 It's just more of the same: 60 00:02:31,683 --> 00:02:34,317 shopping malls, subdivisions, 61 00:02:34,317 --> 00:02:35,284 office parks. 62 00:02:35,284 --> 00:02:36,459 The other one was dominated 63 00:02:36,459 --> 00:02:39,141 by not everybody moving to the city 64 00:02:39,141 --> 00:02:40,498 but just compact development, 65 00:02:40,498 --> 00:02:43,033 what we used to think of as streetcar suburbs, 66 00:02:43,033 --> 00:02:44,437 walkable neighborhoods, 67 00:02:44,437 --> 00:02:45,270 low-rise 68 00:02:45,270 --> 00:02:49,105 but integrated, mixed-used environments. 69 00:02:49,105 --> 00:02:51,639 And the results are astounding. 70 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:55,126 They're astounding not just for the scale of the difference 71 00:02:55,126 --> 00:02:58,978 of this one shift in our city-making habit, 72 00:02:58,978 --> 00:03:01,254 but also because each one represents 73 00:03:01,254 --> 00:03:04,232 a special interest group, 74 00:03:04,232 --> 00:03:08,265 a special interest group that used to advocate for their concerns 75 00:03:08,265 --> 00:03:09,920 one at a time. 76 00:03:09,920 --> 00:03:13,593 They did not see what I call co-benefits 77 00:03:13,593 --> 00:03:15,365 of urban form 78 00:03:15,365 --> 00:03:17,775 that allows them to join with others. 79 00:03:17,775 --> 00:03:19,386 So land consumption. 80 00:03:19,386 --> 00:03:22,449 Environmentalists are really concerned about this. 81 00:03:22,449 --> 00:03:23,624 So are farmers. 82 00:03:23,624 --> 00:03:26,037 There's a whole range of people, 83 00:03:26,037 --> 00:03:29,534 and of course neighborhood groups that want open space nearby. 84 00:03:29,534 --> 00:03:32,541 The sprawl version of California, 85 00:03:32,541 --> 00:03:36,675 it almost doubles the urban, the physical footprint. 86 00:03:36,675 --> 00:03:38,021 Greenhouse gas, 87 00:03:38,021 --> 00:03:39,609 tremendous savings 88 00:03:39,609 --> 00:03:41,301 because, in California, 89 00:03:41,301 --> 00:03:44,212 our biggest carbon emission comes from cars, 90 00:03:44,212 --> 00:03:47,935 and cities that don't depend on cars as much 91 00:03:47,935 --> 00:03:51,705 obviously create huge savings. 92 00:03:51,705 --> 00:03:53,990 Vehicle miles traveled. 93 00:03:53,990 --> 00:03:54,858 That's what I was just talking about. 94 00:03:54,858 --> 00:03:59,866 Just reducing the average 10,000 miles per household per year 95 00:03:59,866 --> 00:04:05,064 from somewhere in the mid 26,000 per household 96 00:04:05,064 --> 00:04:08,426 has a huge impact not just on air quality 97 00:04:08,426 --> 00:04:10,115 and carbon 98 00:04:10,115 --> 00:04:12,844 but also on the household pocketbook. 99 00:04:12,844 --> 00:04:14,588 It's very expensive to drive that much, 100 00:04:14,588 --> 00:04:17,082 and as we've seen, 101 00:04:17,082 --> 00:04:18,964 the middle class is struggling to hold on. 102 00:04:18,964 --> 00:04:21,329 Health care. 103 00:04:21,329 --> 00:04:24,646 Well you know, we were talking about how do you fix it 104 00:04:24,646 --> 00:04:25,359 once we broke it, 105 00:04:25,359 --> 00:04:26,320 clean the air. 106 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:27,715 Why not just stop polluting? 107 00:04:27,715 --> 00:04:30,172 Why not just use our feet 108 00:04:30,172 --> 00:04:31,199 and bikes more? 109 00:04:31,199 --> 00:04:35,378 And that's a function of the kinds of cities that we shape. 110 00:04:35,378 --> 00:04:36,927 Household costs. 111 00:04:36,927 --> 00:04:39,795 2008 was a mark in time, 112 00:04:39,795 --> 00:04:43,381 not of just financial industry running amok. 113 00:04:43,381 --> 00:04:48,481 It was that we were trying to sell too many of the wrong kind of housing: 114 00:04:48,481 --> 00:04:50,527 large lot, single family, distant, 115 00:04:50,527 --> 00:04:52,801 too expensive for the average middle class family to afford, 116 00:04:52,801 --> 00:04:59,526 and quite frankly not a good fit to their lifestyle anymore. 117 00:04:59,526 --> 00:05:01,466 But in order to move inventory, 118 00:05:01,466 --> 00:05:04,867 you can discount the financing and get it sold. 119 00:05:04,867 --> 00:05:06,738 I think that's a lot of what happened. 120 00:05:06,738 --> 00:05:09,696 Reducing cost by 10,000 dollars -- 121 00:05:09,696 --> 00:05:11,133 remember, in California the median is 50,000 -- 122 00:05:11,133 --> 00:05:14,024 this is a big element. 123 00:05:14,024 --> 00:05:16,677 That's just cars and utility costs. 124 00:05:16,677 --> 00:05:18,628 So the affordable housing advocates, 125 00:05:18,628 --> 00:05:21,066 who often sit off in their silo 126 00:05:21,066 --> 00:05:23,209 separate from the environmentalists, 127 00:05:23,209 --> 00:05:25,747 separate from the politicians, 128 00:05:25,747 --> 00:05:27,361 everybody fighting with everybody, 129 00:05:27,361 --> 00:05:29,599 now begin to see common cause, 130 00:05:29,599 --> 00:05:33,837 and I think the common cause is what really brings about the change. 131 00:05:33,837 --> 00:05:35,276 Los Angeles, 132 00:05:35,276 --> 00:05:36,944 as a result of these efforts, 133 00:05:36,944 --> 00:05:39,789 has now decided to transform itself 134 00:05:39,789 --> 00:05:43,311 into a more transit-oriented environment. 135 00:05:43,311 --> 00:05:45,943 As a matter of fact, since '08, 136 00:05:45,943 --> 00:05:48,775 they voted in 400 billion dollars of bonds for transit 137 00:05:48,775 --> 00:05:51,962 and zero dollars for new highways. 138 00:05:51,962 --> 00:05:53,153 What a transformation: 139 00:05:53,153 --> 00:05:56,255 LA becomes a city of walkers and transit, 140 00:05:56,255 --> 00:05:57,469 not a city of cars. 141 00:05:57,469 --> 00:05:58,315 (Applause) 142 00:05:58,315 --> 00:05:59,488 How does it happen? 143 00:05:59,488 --> 00:06:02,022 You take the least desirable land, the strip. 144 00:06:02,022 --> 00:06:04,224 You add where there's space, transit, 145 00:06:04,224 --> 00:06:08,313 and then you infill mixed use development, 146 00:06:08,313 --> 00:06:10,606 you satisfy new housing demands, 147 00:06:10,606 --> 00:06:12,991 and you make the existing neighborhoods 148 00:06:12,991 --> 00:06:14,312 all around it more complex, 149 00:06:14,312 --> 00:06:16,840 more interesting, more walkable. 150 00:06:16,840 --> 00:06:19,588 Okay. Here's another kind of sprawl: 151 00:06:19,588 --> 00:06:22,068 China, high density sprawl, 152 00:06:22,068 --> 00:06:24,355 what you think of as an oxymoron, but the same problems, 153 00:06:24,355 --> 00:06:27,054 everything isolated in superblocks, 154 00:06:27,054 --> 00:06:30,605 and of course this amazing smog that was just spoken to. 155 00:06:30,605 --> 00:06:36,130 Twelve percent of GDP in China now is spent on the health impacts of that. 156 00:06:36,130 --> 00:06:38,187 The history, of course, of Chinese cities is robust. 157 00:06:38,187 --> 00:06:40,306 It's like any other place. 158 00:06:40,306 --> 00:06:43,419 Community was all about small, local shops and local services 159 00:06:43,419 --> 00:06:45,978 and walking, 160 00:06:45,978 --> 00:06:47,571 interacting with your neighbors. 161 00:06:47,571 --> 00:06:49,824 It may sound utopian, but it's not. 162 00:06:49,824 --> 00:06:51,814 It's actually what people really want. 163 00:06:51,814 --> 00:06:53,509 The new superblocks, 164 00:06:53,509 --> 00:06:57,452 these are blocks that would have 5,000 units in them, 165 00:06:57,452 --> 00:07:01,316 and they're gated as well, because nobody knows anybody else. 166 00:07:01,316 --> 00:07:03,545 And of course, there isn't even a sidewalk, 167 00:07:03,545 --> 00:07:06,995 no ground floor shops, a very sterile environment. 168 00:07:06,995 --> 00:07:10,280 I found this one case 169 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:11,817 here in one of the superblocks 170 00:07:11,817 --> 00:07:15,066 where people had illicitly set up shops in their garages 171 00:07:15,066 --> 00:07:19,132 so that they could have that kind of local service economy. 172 00:07:19,132 --> 00:07:23,411 The desire of people to get it right is there. 173 00:07:23,411 --> 00:07:27,361 We just have to get the planners on board and the politicians. 174 00:07:27,361 --> 00:07:28,118 All right. 175 00:07:28,118 --> 00:07:31,150 Some technical planning stuff. 176 00:07:31,150 --> 00:07:34,189 Xianching is a city of 30 million people. 177 00:07:34,189 --> 00:07:36,674 It's almost as big as California. 178 00:07:36,674 --> 00:07:38,552 This is a small growth area. 179 00:07:38,552 --> 00:07:42,187 They wanted us to test the alternative to sprawl 180 00:07:42,187 --> 00:07:45,277 in several cities across China. 181 00:07:45,277 --> 00:07:48,378 This is for four and a half million people. 182 00:07:48,378 --> 00:07:50,497 The takeaway from this image is 183 00:07:50,497 --> 00:07:51,798 every one of those circles 184 00:07:51,798 --> 00:07:55,280 is a walking radius around a transit station, 185 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:59,024 massive investment in metro and BRT 186 00:07:59,024 --> 00:08:01,379 and a distribution that allows everybody 187 00:08:01,379 --> 00:08:04,321 to work within walking distance of that. 188 00:08:04,321 --> 00:08:06,447 The red area, this is a blow-up. 189 00:08:06,447 --> 00:08:09,627 All of a sudden, our principles called for green space 190 00:08:09,627 --> 00:08:13,558 preserving the important ecological features. 191 00:08:13,558 --> 00:08:15,743 And then those other streets in there 192 00:08:15,743 --> 00:08:17,614 are auto-free streets. 193 00:08:17,614 --> 00:08:21,545 So instead of bulldozing, leveling the site, 194 00:08:21,545 --> 00:08:22,971 and building right up to the river, 195 00:08:22,971 --> 00:08:25,056 this green edge was something 196 00:08:25,056 --> 00:08:27,484 that really wasn't normative in China 197 00:08:27,484 --> 00:08:29,775 until these set of practices 198 00:08:29,775 --> 00:08:33,294 began experimentation there. 199 00:08:33,294 --> 00:08:35,272 The urban fabric, small blocks, 200 00:08:35,272 --> 00:08:37,911 maybe 500 families per block. 201 00:08:37,911 --> 00:08:39,311 They know each other. 202 00:08:39,311 --> 00:08:41,521 The street perimeter has shops 203 00:08:41,521 --> 00:08:43,466 so there's local destinations. 204 00:08:43,466 --> 00:08:45,687 And the streets themselves become smaller 205 00:08:45,687 --> 00:08:47,539 because there are more of them. 206 00:08:47,539 --> 00:08:49,550 Very simple, 207 00:08:49,550 --> 00:08:51,641 straightforward urban design. 208 00:08:51,641 --> 00:08:54,874 Now here you have something I dearly love. 209 00:08:54,874 --> 00:08:56,172 Think of the logic. 210 00:08:56,172 --> 00:08:58,646 If only a third of the people have cars, 211 00:08:58,646 --> 00:09:03,127 why do we give 100 percent of our streets to cars? 212 00:09:03,127 --> 00:09:05,865 What if we gave 70 percent of the streets 213 00:09:05,865 --> 00:09:08,485 to car-free, to everybody else, 214 00:09:08,485 --> 00:09:11,027 so that the transit could move well for them, 215 00:09:11,027 --> 00:09:12,365 so that they could walk, so they could bike? 216 00:09:12,365 --> 00:09:13,202 (Applause) 217 00:09:13,202 --> 00:09:17,834 Why not have geographic equity 218 00:09:17,834 --> 00:09:21,272 in our circulation system? 219 00:09:21,272 --> 00:09:23,772 And quite frankly, 220 00:09:23,772 --> 00:09:24,986 cities would function better. 221 00:09:24,986 --> 00:09:25,957 No matter what they do, 222 00:09:25,957 --> 00:09:28,237 no matter how many ring roads they build in Beijing, 223 00:09:28,237 --> 00:09:31,337 they just can't overcome complete gridlock. 224 00:09:31,337 --> 00:09:34,926 So this is an auto-free street, 225 00:09:34,926 --> 00:09:35,952 mixed use along the edge. 226 00:09:35,952 --> 00:09:37,630 It has transit running down the middle. 227 00:09:37,630 --> 00:09:40,884 I'm happy to make that transit autonomous vehicles, 228 00:09:40,884 --> 00:09:43,817 but maybe I'll have a chance to talk about that later. 229 00:09:43,817 --> 00:09:47,895 So there are seven principles that have now been adopted 230 00:09:47,895 --> 00:09:50,618 by the highest levels in the Chinese government, 231 00:09:50,618 --> 00:09:51,970 and they're moving to implement them. 232 00:09:51,970 --> 00:09:55,924 And they're simple, 233 00:09:55,924 --> 00:09:57,250 and they are globally, I think, universal principles. 234 00:09:57,250 --> 00:09:58,639 One is to preserve the natural environment, 235 00:09:58,639 --> 00:10:01,504 the history, and the critical agriculture. 236 00:10:01,504 --> 00:10:03,780 Second is mix. 237 00:10:03,780 --> 00:10:05,274 Mixed use is popular, 238 00:10:05,274 --> 00:10:07,686 but when I say mix, I mean mix incomes, 239 00:10:07,686 --> 00:10:11,596 mix age groups as well as mixed land use. 240 00:10:11,596 --> 00:10:13,213 Walk. 241 00:10:13,213 --> 00:10:16,100 There's no great city that you don't enjoy walking in. 242 00:10:16,100 --> 00:10:17,614 You don't go there. 243 00:10:17,614 --> 00:10:20,446 The places you go on vacation are places you can walk. 244 00:10:20,446 --> 00:10:22,561 Why not make it everywhere? 245 00:10:22,561 --> 00:10:26,044 Bike is the most efficient means of transportation we know. 246 00:10:26,044 --> 00:10:30,278 China has now adopted policies that put six meters of bike lane 247 00:10:30,278 --> 00:10:31,793 on every street. 248 00:10:31,793 --> 00:10:35,759 They're serious about getting back to their biking history. 249 00:10:35,759 --> 00:10:37,238 (Applause) 250 00:10:37,238 --> 00:10:39,564 Complicated planner you see here. 251 00:10:39,564 --> 00:10:40,830 Connect. 252 00:10:40,830 --> 00:10:44,126 It's a street network that allows many routes 253 00:10:44,126 --> 00:10:46,207 instead of singular routes 254 00:10:46,207 --> 00:10:48,359 and provides many kinds of streets 255 00:10:48,359 --> 00:10:51,308 instead of just one. 256 00:10:51,308 --> 00:10:52,326 Ride. 257 00:10:52,326 --> 00:10:54,659 We have to invest more in transit. 258 00:10:54,659 --> 00:10:56,457 There's no silver bullet. 259 00:10:56,457 --> 00:10:59,341 Autonomous vehicles are not going to solve this for us. 260 00:10:59,341 --> 00:11:03,659 As a matter of fact, they're going to generate more traffic, 261 00:11:03,659 --> 00:11:04,769 more VMT 262 00:11:04,769 --> 00:11:06,641 than the alternative. 263 00:11:06,641 --> 00:11:07,422 And focus. 264 00:11:07,422 --> 00:11:10,011 We have a hierarchy of the city 265 00:11:10,011 --> 00:11:12,107 based on transit 266 00:11:12,107 --> 00:11:14,697 rather than the old armiture of freeways. 267 00:11:14,697 --> 00:11:17,695 It's a big paradigm shift, 268 00:11:17,695 --> 00:11:20,549 but those two things have to get reconnected in ways 269 00:11:20,549 --> 00:11:25,626 that really shape the structure of the city. 270 00:11:25,626 --> 00:11:28,031 So I'm very hopeful. 271 00:11:28,031 --> 00:11:30,540 In California, in the United States, 272 00:11:30,540 --> 00:11:32,736 China, these changes are well accepted. 273 00:11:32,736 --> 00:11:35,259 I'm hopeful for two reasons. 274 00:11:35,259 --> 00:11:37,604 One is most people get it. 275 00:11:37,604 --> 00:11:39,308 They understand intrinsically 276 00:11:39,308 --> 00:11:41,973 what a great city can and should be. 277 00:11:41,973 --> 00:11:44,918 And the second is 278 00:11:44,918 --> 00:11:46,890 that the kind of analysis we can bring to bear now 279 00:11:46,890 --> 00:11:50,127 allows people to connect the dots, 280 00:11:50,127 --> 00:11:53,481 allows people to shape political coalitions 281 00:11:53,481 --> 00:11:54,816 that didn't exist in the past. 282 00:11:54,816 --> 00:11:58,697 That allows them to bring into being the kinds of communities we all need. 283 00:11:58,697 --> 00:12:00,064 Thank you. 284 00:12:00,064 --> 00:12:08,051 (Applause) 285 00:12:08,051 --> 00:12:11,479 Chris Anderson: So okay, autonomous driving, self-driving cars. 286 00:12:11,479 --> 00:12:14,380 A lot of people are very excited about them. 287 00:12:14,380 --> 00:12:18,585 What are your concerns or issues about them? 288 00:12:18,585 --> 00:12:21,278 Peter Calthorpe: Well, you know, I think there's almost too much hype here. 289 00:12:21,278 --> 00:12:25,190 First is, everybody says, well we're going to get rid of a lot of cars. 290 00:12:25,190 --> 00:12:28,017 What they don't say is you're going to get a lot more vehicle miles. 291 00:12:28,017 --> 00:12:31,277 You're going to get a lot more cars moving on streets. 292 00:12:31,277 --> 00:12:33,278 There will be more congestion. 293 00:12:33,278 --> 00:12:34,796 CA: Because they're so appealing, 294 00:12:34,796 --> 00:12:37,228 you can drive while reading or sleeping. 295 00:12:37,228 --> 00:12:38,695 PC: Couple reasons. Couple reasons. 296 00:12:38,695 --> 00:12:41,141 One is, if they're privately owned, 297 00:12:41,141 --> 00:12:43,159 people will travel greater distances. 298 00:12:43,159 --> 00:12:45,077 It'll be a new lease on life to sprawl. 299 00:12:45,077 --> 00:12:47,115 If you can work on your way to work, 300 00:12:47,115 --> 00:12:49,512 you can live in more remote locations. 301 00:12:49,512 --> 00:12:51,766 It'll revitalize sprawl 302 00:12:51,766 --> 00:12:54,470 in a way that I'm deeply frightened. 303 00:12:54,470 --> 00:12:56,347 Taxis: 304 00:12:56,347 --> 00:12:59,788 about 50 percent of the surveys 305 00:12:59,788 --> 00:13:00,495 say that people won't share them. 306 00:13:00,495 --> 00:13:01,195 If they don't share them, 307 00:13:01,195 --> 00:13:05,825 you can end up with a 90 percent increase in vehicle miles traveled. 308 00:13:05,825 --> 00:13:08,125 If you share them, 309 00:13:08,125 --> 00:13:11,670 you're still at around 30 percent increased in VMT. 310 00:13:11,670 --> 00:13:13,873 CA: Sharing them meaning having multiple people riding at once 311 00:13:13,873 --> 00:13:15,824 in some sort of intelligent ride-sharing. 312 00:13:15,824 --> 00:13:18,908 PC: Yeah, so the Uber share without a steering wheel. 313 00:13:18,908 --> 00:13:22,287 The reality is, the efficiency of vehicles, 314 00:13:22,287 --> 00:13:24,361 you know, you can do it with or without a steering wheel. 315 00:13:24,361 --> 00:13:25,397 It doesn't matter. 316 00:13:25,397 --> 00:13:28,114 They claim that they're the only ones that are going to be efficient electric, 317 00:13:28,114 --> 00:13:29,313 but that's not true. 318 00:13:29,313 --> 00:13:31,327 But the real bottom line 319 00:13:31,327 --> 00:13:33,676 is that walking, biking and transit 320 00:13:33,676 --> 00:13:37,146 are the way cities and communities thrive, 321 00:13:37,146 --> 00:13:39,855 and putting people in their private bubbles, 322 00:13:39,855 --> 00:13:41,826 whether they have a steering wheel or not, 323 00:13:41,826 --> 00:13:44,009 is the wrong direction. 324 00:13:44,009 --> 00:13:45,013 And quite frankly, 325 00:13:45,013 --> 00:13:48,472 the image of an AV on its way to McDonald's 326 00:13:48,472 --> 00:13:50,457 to pick up a pack 327 00:13:50,457 --> 00:13:52,494 without its owner, 328 00:13:52,494 --> 00:13:56,227 just being sent off on these kinds of random errands 329 00:13:56,227 --> 00:13:57,762 is really frightening to me. 330 00:13:57,762 --> 00:14:01,208 CA: Well thank you for that, and I have to say the images you showed 331 00:14:01,208 --> 00:14:03,660 of those mixed use streets, really inspiring, really beautiful. 332 00:14:03,660 --> 00:14:05,228 Thank you for your work. 333 00:14:05,228 --> 00:14:06,754 PC: Thank you. CA: Thank you. 334 00:14:06,754 --> 00:14:07,668 (Applause)