WEBVTT 00:00:10.141 --> 00:00:15.724 (Bell) 00:00:28.427 --> 00:00:30.220 Dear Thay, Dear Sangha 00:00:31.286 --> 00:00:33.124 I have two questions. 00:00:34.096 --> 00:00:36.142 So my first question is: 00:00:37.171 --> 00:00:41.076 I am the last child from the lineage of my ancestors. 00:00:42.501 --> 00:00:45.512 And so there is a lot of suffering to transform, 00:00:46.142 --> 00:00:51.366 but I was also very lucky to have enough conditions to encounter the Dharma, 00:00:52.847 --> 00:00:55.358 and not to be running after survival. 00:00:55.358 --> 00:00:56.800 So I could practice. 00:00:58.271 --> 00:01:00.560 Now, I just come back from a long journey, 00:01:02.082 --> 00:01:07.314 and because I have been far away, as I come back I can see very clearly 00:01:08.170 --> 00:01:10.779 how the suffering was built up in our family, 00:01:10.779 --> 00:01:15.081 generation after generation through historical conditions. 00:01:19.806 --> 00:01:25.541 So I am trying to share with my elders, so that they might also find relief. 00:01:28.034 --> 00:01:30.567 But some of them are very hardened. 00:01:33.075 --> 00:01:34.968 They have a lot of anger. 00:01:35.404 --> 00:01:38.807 They become very mean and very desperate. 00:01:41.944 --> 00:01:44.547 And even though I have some understanding, 00:01:44.547 --> 00:01:48.487 I know I am also not stable enough in certain situations, 00:01:49.466 --> 00:01:53.328 and I do not know anymore what to do to help them. 00:01:55.105 --> 00:01:58.887 And I am very worried, because I have seen some of them, 00:01:58.887 --> 00:02:02.896 from this generation of my parents, who escaped from the war, 00:02:02.896 --> 00:02:07.062 become completely insane and really destroy themselves. 00:02:08.890 --> 00:02:10.925 So this is my first question. 00:02:12.966 --> 00:02:15.341 And my second question is: 00:02:16.262 --> 00:02:22.382 Why is it in the Buddhist tradition, that even until today, 00:02:23.530 --> 00:02:27.110 there is still so much discrimination against women? 00:02:28.519 --> 00:02:29.817 Thank you. 00:02:38.491 --> 00:02:41.824 (Sr. Pine) Dear Thay, our friend is asking two questions. 00:02:41.824 --> 00:02:44.933 The first question is a little bit like 00:02:44.933 --> 00:02:49.057 the question of the young man about helping his father. 00:02:49.057 --> 00:02:53.814 So our friend here is also saying that she can see a lot of suffering, 00:02:53.814 --> 00:02:59.394 not only in her parents' generation, but through her ancestors' generations. 00:03:00.779 --> 00:03:04.889 She wants to help them, but she sees that they are very hard, 00:03:04.889 --> 00:03:09.582 because of the great suffering they have been through in the war. 00:03:10.562 --> 00:03:15.197 And they destroy themselves because of the suffering inside. 00:03:15.465 --> 00:03:18.177 She wants to know how she can reach them, 00:03:18.177 --> 00:03:22.753 how she can help them to go in a more healthy direction. 00:03:25.342 --> 00:03:27.565 And her second question is: 00:03:27.565 --> 00:03:34.033 Why is there still today so much discrimination against women in Buddhism? 00:03:51.925 --> 00:03:55.742 Do you think that in Plum Village, we discriminate against women? 00:04:05.995 --> 00:04:07.074 The nuns and... 00:04:10.375 --> 00:04:12.986 the female practitioners in Plum Village, 00:04:12.986 --> 00:04:15.209 play a very important role... 00:04:20.160 --> 00:04:25.347 in organizing the life and the practice of the Sangha 00:04:29.339 --> 00:04:31.862 and the practice of the larger Sangha. 00:04:36.255 --> 00:04:41.761 And the tradition of Bhikshunis still exists in many countries. 00:04:43.713 --> 00:04:48.593 There are countries that have lost the Bhikshuni Sangha. 00:04:50.307 --> 00:04:54.941 That is not because of Buddhism, but because of Buddhist practitioners. 00:04:56.461 --> 00:05:01.371 They allowed that kind of discrimination from society 00:05:01.842 --> 00:05:05.190 to penetrate into the community. 00:05:11.508 --> 00:05:14.647 In Thailand, in Sri Lanka... 00:05:19.540 --> 00:05:21.974 they do not have Bhikshunis anymore. 00:05:23.234 --> 00:05:29.113 And many of the people in these countries try to restore the order of Bhikshunis. 00:05:31.200 --> 00:05:34.331 So Buddhists are not practicing well enough. 00:05:36.706 --> 00:05:41.599 That is why we have to do better than the former generations. 00:05:44.526 --> 00:05:47.181 And Thây is one of those who try... 00:05:50.302 --> 00:05:51.579 to restore... 00:05:56.046 --> 00:05:57.747 to restore the spirit, 00:05:59.899 --> 00:06:07.057 the initial, the primitive original spirit of Buddhism, 00:06:07.718 --> 00:06:09.457 because the Buddha... 00:06:15.090 --> 00:06:17.732 removed all kind of discrimination. 00:06:18.700 --> 00:06:24.491 He received all kinds of people, all kinds of race, all kinds of caste 00:06:25.261 --> 00:06:29.199 into his community. 00:06:31.194 --> 00:06:32.843 And he welcomed... 00:06:34.443 --> 00:06:36.721 women to become Bhikshuni. 00:06:39.954 --> 00:06:44.533 He was a real revolutionary in his own time. 00:06:45.767 --> 00:06:48.644 So difficult, but he was able to do it. 00:06:49.776 --> 00:06:52.545 So we who are the continuation of the Buddha, 00:06:52.545 --> 00:06:58.120 should practice well enough in order to maintain his heritage, 00:07:01.744 --> 00:07:03.894 to preserve his heritage. 00:07:03.894 --> 00:07:05.205 No discrimination! 00:07:13.604 --> 00:07:16.750 Suffering is overwhelming. 00:07:20.961 --> 00:07:22.956 And there are those of us... 00:07:25.781 --> 00:07:28.216 who came out of the Vietnam war, 00:07:34.494 --> 00:07:35.751 full of wounds. 00:07:37.769 --> 00:07:42.262 We have seen our brother, our father, our mother, our sister 00:07:42.481 --> 00:07:46.347 killed and destroyed during the war. 00:07:47.523 --> 00:07:49.913 We have seen many of them imprisoned 00:07:52.102 --> 00:07:54.346 and tortured during the war. 00:07:56.897 --> 00:07:59.805 Foreign ideologies, foreign weapons 00:08:00.030 --> 00:08:02.943 had been brought in from all over the world 00:08:04.679 --> 00:08:06.728 to destroy us, to kill us. 00:08:07.093 --> 00:08:11.444 And we were forced into a situation like that for a long time. 00:08:16.580 --> 00:08:21.315 And each of us, each Vietnamese of the new generation 00:08:21.996 --> 00:08:25.969 carries within himself or herself that kind of suffering. 00:08:31.616 --> 00:08:34.523 And after forty years of exile, 00:08:36.152 --> 00:08:39.162 Thây has been able to go home for a few times, 00:08:40.314 --> 00:08:44.880 organizing retreats in order to help heal the wounds of the war... 00:08:49.166 --> 00:08:53.221 in people, in the younger generations. 00:08:54.489 --> 00:08:57.328 He tried to do his best, 00:08:58.740 --> 00:09:04.256 and he tried to do it as a Sangha, not as a person. 00:09:08.653 --> 00:09:13.223 Thây went back to Vietnam not as an individual, 00:09:15.533 --> 00:09:17.204 but as a community. 00:09:17.591 --> 00:09:22.117 300 practitioners went back to Vietnam with Thây 00:09:23.213 --> 00:09:26.329 for the first time after forty years of exile. 00:09:27.137 --> 00:09:28.483 That was in... 00:09:29.637 --> 00:09:34.700 2005... right? 00:09:36.310 --> 00:09:38.267 2005. 00:09:42.708 --> 00:09:47.264 We had hundreds of monastics and lay practitioners coming with us. 00:09:48.598 --> 00:09:51.913 And our practice was very solid. 00:09:54.718 --> 00:09:55.891 Imagine... 00:09:57.660 --> 00:09:59.671 a hotel in Hanoi, 00:10:02.558 --> 00:10:04.206 where we stayed. 00:10:07.796 --> 00:10:13.409 Secret police came and observed us, because they were afraid of us. 00:10:20.226 --> 00:10:23.186 Everywhere we go, they follow us. 00:10:24.689 --> 00:10:28.718 They want to know what we are telling people, what we are doing. 00:10:30.033 --> 00:10:33.497 They are forced to allow Thây to come home, 00:10:34.650 --> 00:10:36.701 but they are afraid... 00:10:39.112 --> 00:10:41.834 that we may say something, 00:10:47.340 --> 00:10:52.817 that we may urge the people in Vietnam to say something against them. 00:11:02.172 --> 00:11:06.423 And several hundreds of us practiced with solidity. 00:11:07.157 --> 00:11:10.929 And the way we walk, the way we breathe the way we eat our breakfast, 00:11:12.442 --> 00:11:17.929 the way we encounter the people in the hotel 00:11:18.321 --> 00:11:23.020 and those who come to see us, including secret police men, 00:11:25.366 --> 00:11:26.901 reflect our practice. 00:11:28.254 --> 00:11:33.968 And the hotels where we live look like a practice center. 00:11:35.235 --> 00:11:40.062 There is mindfulness. There is peace, brotherhood, sisterhood. 00:11:41.004 --> 00:11:42.711 And they were very impressed. 00:11:46.058 --> 00:11:52.526 And one time we did walking meditation around Hoan Kiem Lake. 00:11:54.589 --> 00:11:57.474 It was the first time the people of the city saw 00:11:58.435 --> 00:12:03.661 such a large number of people walking with peace, joy and happiness. 00:12:04.043 --> 00:12:06.327 They were very struck by the sight. 00:12:07.348 --> 00:12:10.513 It had a very big impact on the population. 00:12:11.672 --> 00:12:13.931 They saw solid practitioners. 00:12:15.390 --> 00:12:18.800 And we were able to share the practice with so many people... 00:12:20.257 --> 00:12:23.756 in our public talks and in our retreats. 00:12:27.820 --> 00:12:29.704 And after that we organised... 00:12:32.406 --> 00:12:34.245 ceremonies of prayers. 00:12:37.192 --> 00:12:42.178 We prayed for the many millions of people that died during the war. 00:12:43.290 --> 00:12:46.729 And thousands and thousands of people came and practiced with us, 00:12:48.340 --> 00:12:49.878 and prayed together. 00:12:50.810 --> 00:12:54.502 And we promised each other that never ever again 00:12:55.110 --> 00:12:58.745 we would accept such a war of ideology, 00:13:01.583 --> 00:13:05.804 and kill each other with foreign weapons and foreign ideologies. 00:13:07.416 --> 00:13:09.497 And that was possible. 00:13:10.144 --> 00:13:15.243 So we practiced to help with the healing of the whole country. 00:13:19.437 --> 00:13:21.617 So my answer here is: 00:13:22.945 --> 00:13:25.745 In order to succeed... 00:13:28.000 --> 00:13:31.123 in your attempt to help 00:13:33.660 --> 00:13:39.368 you have to...do it with a Sangha. 00:13:40.688 --> 00:13:42.809 You have to belong to a Sangha. 00:13:43.381 --> 00:13:46.280 You need to have brothers and sisters in the practice. 00:13:48.034 --> 00:13:51.702 We have to be powerful enough to be able to handle the suffering. 00:13:52.803 --> 00:13:55.004 There is a lot of garbage. 00:13:58.159 --> 00:14:03.555 And since many of us do not know how to transform garbage into flowers, 00:14:07.165 --> 00:14:11.608 making good use of suffering in order to create peace and healing, 00:14:12.425 --> 00:14:15.242 we need a Sangha to support us to do so. 00:14:17.805 --> 00:14:21.780 So practicing alone, self transformation is already difficult, 00:14:22.371 --> 00:14:25.612 let alone the transformation of others. 00:14:27.010 --> 00:14:28.522 That is why... 00:14:33.209 --> 00:14:39.058 we have to know, we have to see that we should try to build a Sangha, 00:14:40.118 --> 00:14:45.333 to be with a Sangha, to contribute to the building of a Sangha. 00:14:46.118 --> 00:14:50.925 Without Sangha, you cannot do much work of transformation and healing. 00:14:51.732 --> 00:14:56.251 Even the Buddha could not do much without a Sangha. 00:14:57.660 --> 00:15:02.006 And that is why, after Enlightenment, the first thing he thought of, 00:15:02.006 --> 00:15:07.010 was to go and identify elements of his Sangha. 00:15:08.891 --> 00:15:10.397 You have to do the same. 00:15:11.662 --> 00:15:14.062 And Thây is very aware of that. 00:15:16.050 --> 00:15:21.200 Thây knew that if he went home alone, he would not be able to do anything. 00:15:23.704 --> 00:15:26.594 So he put forth a condition: 00:15:27.695 --> 00:15:31.843 "I will go back only if you allow me to go with my Sangha." 00:15:37.964 --> 00:15:44.268 So with the Sangha we will have a collective energy powerful enough... 00:15:45.655 --> 00:15:49.608 to take care of our suffering, transform our suffering. 00:15:54.735 --> 00:15:55.901 Good luck! 00:16:03.445 --> 00:16:10.292 (Bell)