1 00:00:10,141 --> 00:00:15,724 (Bell) 2 00:00:28,427 --> 00:00:30,220 Dear Thay, Dear Sangha 3 00:00:31,286 --> 00:00:33,124 I have two questions. 4 00:00:34,096 --> 00:00:36,142 So my first question is: 5 00:00:37,171 --> 00:00:41,076 I am the last child from the lineage of my ancestors. 6 00:00:42,501 --> 00:00:45,512 And so there is a lot of suffering to transform, 7 00:00:46,142 --> 00:00:51,366 but I was also very lucky to have enough conditions to encounter the Dharma, 8 00:00:52,847 --> 00:00:55,358 and not to be running after survival. 9 00:00:55,358 --> 00:00:56,800 So I could practice. 10 00:00:58,271 --> 00:01:00,560 Now, I just come back from a long journey, 11 00:01:02,082 --> 00:01:07,314 and because I have been far away, as I come back I can see very clearly 12 00:01:08,170 --> 00:01:10,779 how the suffering was built up in our family, 13 00:01:10,779 --> 00:01:15,081 generation after generation through historical conditions. 14 00:01:19,806 --> 00:01:25,541 So I am trying to share with my elders, so that they might also find relief. 15 00:01:28,034 --> 00:01:30,567 But some of them are very hardened. 16 00:01:33,075 --> 00:01:34,968 They have a lot of anger. 17 00:01:35,404 --> 00:01:38,807 They become very mean and very desperate. 18 00:01:41,944 --> 00:01:44,547 And even though I have some understanding, 19 00:01:44,547 --> 00:01:48,487 I know I am also not stable enough in certain situations, 20 00:01:49,466 --> 00:01:53,328 and I do not know anymore what to do to help them. 21 00:01:55,105 --> 00:01:58,887 And I am very worried, because I have seen some of them, 22 00:01:58,887 --> 00:02:02,896 from this generation of my parents, who escaped from the war, 23 00:02:02,896 --> 00:02:07,062 become completely insane and really destroy themselves. 24 00:02:08,890 --> 00:02:10,925 So this is my first question. 25 00:02:12,966 --> 00:02:15,341 And my second question is: 26 00:02:16,262 --> 00:02:22,382 Why is it in the Buddhist tradition, that even until today, 27 00:02:23,530 --> 00:02:27,110 there is still so much discrimination against women? 28 00:02:28,519 --> 00:02:29,817 Thank you. 29 00:02:38,491 --> 00:02:41,824 (Sr. Pine) Dear Thay, our friend is asking two questions. 30 00:02:41,824 --> 00:02:44,933 The first question is a little bit like 31 00:02:44,933 --> 00:02:49,057 the question of the young man about helping his father. 32 00:02:49,057 --> 00:02:53,814 So our friend here is also saying that she can see a lot of suffering, 33 00:02:53,814 --> 00:02:59,394 not only in her parents' generation, but through her ancestors' generations. 34 00:03:00,779 --> 00:03:04,889 She wants to help them, but she sees that they are very hard, 35 00:03:04,889 --> 00:03:09,582 because of the great suffering they have been through in the war. 36 00:03:10,562 --> 00:03:15,197 And they destroy themselves because of the suffering inside. 37 00:03:15,465 --> 00:03:18,177 She wants to know how she can reach them, 38 00:03:18,177 --> 00:03:22,753 how she can help them to go in a more healthy direction. 39 00:03:25,342 --> 00:03:27,565 And her second question is: 40 00:03:27,565 --> 00:03:34,033 Why is there still today so much discrimination against women in Buddhism? 41 00:03:51,925 --> 00:03:55,742 Do you think that in Plum Village, we discriminate against women? 42 00:04:05,995 --> 00:04:07,074 The nuns and... 43 00:04:10,375 --> 00:04:12,986 the female practitioners in Plum Village, 44 00:04:12,986 --> 00:04:15,209 play a very important role... 45 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:25,347 in organizing the life and the practice of the Sangha 46 00:04:29,339 --> 00:04:31,862 and the practice of the larger Sangha. 47 00:04:36,255 --> 00:04:41,761 And the tradition of Bhikshunis still exists in many countries. 48 00:04:43,713 --> 00:04:48,593 There are countries that have lost the Bhikshuni Sangha. 49 00:04:50,307 --> 00:04:54,941 That is not because of Buddhism, but because of Buddhist practitioners. 50 00:04:56,461 --> 00:05:01,371 They allowed that kind of discrimination from society 51 00:05:01,842 --> 00:05:05,190 to penetrate into the community. 52 00:05:11,508 --> 00:05:14,647 In Thailand, in Sri Lanka... 53 00:05:19,540 --> 00:05:21,974 they do not have Bhikshunis anymore. 54 00:05:23,234 --> 00:05:29,113 And many of the people in these countries try to restore the order of Bhikshunis. 55 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,331 So Buddhists are not practicing well enough. 56 00:05:36,706 --> 00:05:41,599 That is why we have to do better than the former generations. 57 00:05:44,526 --> 00:05:47,181 And Thây is one of those who try... 58 00:05:50,302 --> 00:05:51,579 to restore... 59 00:05:56,046 --> 00:05:57,747 to restore the spirit, 60 00:05:59,899 --> 00:06:07,057 the initial, the primitive original spirit of Buddhism, 61 00:06:07,718 --> 00:06:09,457 because the Buddha... 62 00:06:15,090 --> 00:06:17,732 removed all kind of discrimination. 63 00:06:18,700 --> 00:06:24,491 He received all kinds of people, all kinds of race, all kinds of caste 64 00:06:25,261 --> 00:06:29,199 into his community. 65 00:06:31,194 --> 00:06:32,843 And he welcomed... 66 00:06:34,443 --> 00:06:36,721 women to become Bhikshuni. 67 00:06:39,954 --> 00:06:44,533 He was a real revolutionary in his own time. 68 00:06:45,767 --> 00:06:48,644 So difficult, but he was able to do it. 69 00:06:49,776 --> 00:06:52,545 So we who are the continuation of the Buddha, 70 00:06:52,545 --> 00:06:58,120 should practice well enough in order to maintain his heritage, 71 00:07:01,744 --> 00:07:03,894 to preserve his heritage. 72 00:07:03,894 --> 00:07:05,205 No discrimination! 73 00:07:13,604 --> 00:07:16,750 Suffering is overwhelming. 74 00:07:20,961 --> 00:07:22,956 And there are those of us... 75 00:07:25,781 --> 00:07:28,216 who came out of the Vietnam war, 76 00:07:34,494 --> 00:07:35,751 full of wounds. 77 00:07:37,769 --> 00:07:42,262 We have seen our brother, our father, our mother, our sister 78 00:07:42,481 --> 00:07:46,347 killed and destroyed during the war. 79 00:07:47,523 --> 00:07:49,913 We have seen many of them imprisoned 80 00:07:52,102 --> 00:07:54,346 and tortured during the war. 81 00:07:56,897 --> 00:07:59,805 Foreign ideologies, foreign weapons 82 00:08:00,030 --> 00:08:02,943 had been brought in from all over the world 83 00:08:04,679 --> 00:08:06,728 to destroy us, to kill us. 84 00:08:07,093 --> 00:08:11,444 And we were forced into a situation like that for a long time. 85 00:08:16,580 --> 00:08:21,315 And each of us, each Vietnamese of the new generation 86 00:08:21,996 --> 00:08:25,969 carries within himself or herself that kind of suffering. 87 00:08:31,616 --> 00:08:34,523 And after forty years of exile, 88 00:08:36,152 --> 00:08:39,162 Thây has been able to go home for a few times, 89 00:08:40,314 --> 00:08:44,880 organizing retreats in order to help heal the wounds of the war... 90 00:08:49,166 --> 00:08:53,221 in people, in the younger generations. 91 00:08:54,489 --> 00:08:57,328 He tried to do his best, 92 00:08:58,740 --> 00:09:04,256 and he tried to do it as a Sangha, not as a person. 93 00:09:08,653 --> 00:09:13,223 Thây went back to Vietnam not as an individual, 94 00:09:15,533 --> 00:09:17,204 but as a community. 95 00:09:17,591 --> 00:09:22,117 300 practitioners went back to Vietnam with Thây 96 00:09:23,213 --> 00:09:26,329 for the first time after forty years of exile. 97 00:09:27,137 --> 00:09:28,483 That was in... 98 00:09:29,637 --> 00:09:34,700 2005... right? 99 00:09:36,310 --> 00:09:38,267 2005. 100 00:09:42,708 --> 00:09:47,264 We had hundreds of monastics and lay practitioners coming with us. 101 00:09:48,598 --> 00:09:51,913 And our practice was very solid. 102 00:09:54,718 --> 00:09:55,891 Imagine... 103 00:09:57,660 --> 00:09:59,671 a hotel in Hanoi, 104 00:10:02,558 --> 00:10:04,206 where we stayed. 105 00:10:07,796 --> 00:10:13,409 Secret police came and observed us, because they were afraid of us. 106 00:10:20,226 --> 00:10:23,186 Everywhere we go, they follow us. 107 00:10:24,689 --> 00:10:28,718 They want to know what we are telling people, what we are doing. 108 00:10:30,033 --> 00:10:33,497 They are forced to allow Thây to come home, 109 00:10:34,650 --> 00:10:36,701 but they are afraid... 110 00:10:39,112 --> 00:10:41,834 that we may say something, 111 00:10:47,340 --> 00:10:52,817 that we may urge the people in Vietnam to say something against them. 112 00:11:02,172 --> 00:11:06,423 And several hundreds of us practiced with solidity. 113 00:11:07,157 --> 00:11:10,929 And the way we walk, the way we breathe the way we eat our breakfast, 114 00:11:12,442 --> 00:11:17,929 the way we encounter the people in the hotel 115 00:11:18,321 --> 00:11:23,020 and those who come to see us, including secret police men, 116 00:11:25,366 --> 00:11:26,901 reflect our practice. 117 00:11:28,254 --> 00:11:33,968 And the hotels where we live look like a practice center. 118 00:11:35,235 --> 00:11:40,062 There is mindfulness. There is peace, brotherhood, sisterhood. 119 00:11:41,004 --> 00:11:42,711 And they were very impressed. 120 00:11:46,058 --> 00:11:52,526 And one time we did walking meditation around Hoan Kiem Lake. 121 00:11:54,589 --> 00:11:57,474 It was the first time the people of the city saw 122 00:11:58,435 --> 00:12:03,661 such a large number of people walking with peace, joy and happiness. 123 00:12:04,043 --> 00:12:06,327 They were very struck by the sight. 124 00:12:07,348 --> 00:12:10,513 It had a very big impact on the population. 125 00:12:11,672 --> 00:12:13,931 They saw solid practitioners. 126 00:12:15,390 --> 00:12:18,800 And we were able to share the practice with so many people... 127 00:12:20,257 --> 00:12:23,756 in our public talks and in our retreats. 128 00:12:27,820 --> 00:12:29,704 And after that we organised... 129 00:12:32,406 --> 00:12:34,245 ceremonies of prayers. 130 00:12:37,192 --> 00:12:42,178 We prayed for the many millions of people that died during the war. 131 00:12:43,290 --> 00:12:46,729 And thousands and thousands of people came and practiced with us, 132 00:12:48,340 --> 00:12:49,878 and prayed together. 133 00:12:50,810 --> 00:12:54,502 And we promised each other that never ever again 134 00:12:55,110 --> 00:12:58,745 we would accept such a war of ideology, 135 00:13:01,583 --> 00:13:05,804 and kill each other with foreign weapons and foreign ideologies. 136 00:13:07,416 --> 00:13:09,497 And that was possible. 137 00:13:10,144 --> 00:13:15,243 So we practiced to help with the healing of the whole country. 138 00:13:19,437 --> 00:13:21,617 So my answer here is: 139 00:13:22,945 --> 00:13:25,745 In order to succeed... 140 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:31,123 in your attempt to help 141 00:13:33,660 --> 00:13:39,368 you have to...do it with a Sangha. 142 00:13:40,688 --> 00:13:42,809 You have to belong to a Sangha. 143 00:13:43,381 --> 00:13:46,280 You need to have brothers and sisters in the practice. 144 00:13:48,034 --> 00:13:51,702 We have to be powerful enough to be able to handle the suffering. 145 00:13:52,803 --> 00:13:55,004 There is a lot of garbage. 146 00:13:58,159 --> 00:14:03,555 And since many of us do not know how to transform garbage into flowers, 147 00:14:07,165 --> 00:14:11,608 making good use of suffering in order to create peace and healing, 148 00:14:12,425 --> 00:14:15,242 we need a Sangha to support us to do so. 149 00:14:17,805 --> 00:14:21,780 So practicing alone, self transformation is already difficult, 150 00:14:22,371 --> 00:14:25,612 let alone the transformation of others. 151 00:14:27,010 --> 00:14:28,522 That is why... 152 00:14:33,209 --> 00:14:39,058 we have to know, we have to see that we should try to build a Sangha, 153 00:14:40,118 --> 00:14:45,333 to be with a Sangha, to contribute to the building of a Sangha. 154 00:14:46,118 --> 00:14:50,925 Without Sangha, you cannot do much work of transformation and healing. 155 00:14:51,732 --> 00:14:56,251 Even the Buddha could not do much without a Sangha. 156 00:14:57,660 --> 00:15:02,006 And that is why, after Enlightenment, the first thing he thought of, 157 00:15:02,006 --> 00:15:07,010 was to go and identify elements of his Sangha. 158 00:15:08,891 --> 00:15:10,397 You have to do the same. 159 00:15:11,662 --> 00:15:14,062 And Thây is very aware of that. 160 00:15:16,050 --> 00:15:21,200 Thây knew that if he went home alone, he would not be able to do anything. 161 00:15:23,704 --> 00:15:26,594 So he put forth a condition: 162 00:15:27,695 --> 00:15:31,843 "I will go back only if you allow me to go with my Sangha." 163 00:15:37,964 --> 00:15:44,268 So with the Sangha we will have a collective energy powerful enough... 164 00:15:45,655 --> 00:15:49,608 to take care of our suffering, transform our suffering. 165 00:15:54,735 --> 00:15:55,901 Good luck! 166 00:16:03,445 --> 00:16:10,292 (Bell)