1 00:00:23,025 --> 00:00:24,610 (poignant music) 2 00:00:24,610 --> 00:00:27,285 (awe-inspiring organ music) 3 00:00:27,285 --> 00:00:32,200 (awe-inspiring organ music continues) 4 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:37,400 - I've spent my entire life making pictures, 5 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:39,400 so I don't hold any delusions 6 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:43,440 about the transformative power of artworks. 7 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:47,480 Not enough people ever see them to interrupt the dynamism 8 00:00:47,480 --> 00:00:52,880 and the challenges we face living from day to day. 9 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:55,640 But what they can do, however, 10 00:00:55,640 --> 00:01:01,200 is to invite us to imagine oneself as a subject 11 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:05,240 and an author of a never-ending story 12 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,400 that is still yet to be told. 13 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,680 Now, this is what I've tried to do 14 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:14,600 and tried to accomplish with words, images, 15 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:16,760 and colored glass 16 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:29,825 for right here and for right now. 17 00:01:29,825 --> 00:01:45,022 (gentle upbeat music) (birds chirping) 18 00:01:45,022 --> 00:01:46,560 (stirrer clinking) I came to the cathedral 19 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,400 to have a discussion about the project, 20 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,680 which was to change out the Robert E. Lee 21 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:55,920 and Stonewall Jackson windows. 22 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,600 I understood it was gonna take a lot of thinking, 23 00:01:58,600 --> 00:01:59,840 especially in relationship 24 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:03,040 to the transformation the cathedral was trying to enact. 25 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:08,680 This is a big kind of monumental undertaking, 26 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:10,680 and you have to figure out whether you're gonna be able 27 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:17,057 to meet the moment. 28 00:02:17,057 --> 00:02:17,080 (gentle haunting music) 29 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,600 In the founding documents of the United States, 30 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:23,240 there's a clause that provides for the population 31 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,520 to seek some redress for the grievance that you have. 32 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,920 That's built into the structure of the country, 33 00:02:29,920 --> 00:02:34,360 which means that over time, you're engaged in a process 34 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:41,200 of revision that requires struggle that's ongoing. 35 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:48,053 It's always ongoing. 36 00:02:48,053 --> 00:02:49,920 (crowd applauds and cheers) When Harold Washington 37 00:02:49,920 --> 00:02:54,280 became the first Black mayor elected in Chicago, 38 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:59,600 he said something that struck me at the time, 39 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:00,380 and he said... 40 00:03:00,380 --> 00:03:04,280 - No one, no matter where they live 41 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,560 or how they live is free 42 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:09,920 from the fairness of our administration. 43 00:03:09,920 --> 00:03:13,520 - This is how I came to this idea. 44 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:17,640 It's that "we want fairness, not no foul play." 45 00:03:17,640 --> 00:03:22,960 That seemed to me to be a conceptual relationship 46 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,360 that I thought could do the work 47 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:29,663 that I want these windows to do. 48 00:03:29,663 --> 00:03:36,560 (gentle haunting music continues) 49 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:41,785 This is where humidity is gonna give you some fits. (laughs) 50 00:03:41,785 --> 00:03:42,680 - [Fabricator] Is it running? 51 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:47,465 - No, but the red wasn't completely dry. 52 00:03:47,465 --> 00:03:49,560 - [Fabricator] Oh, it wasn't? 53 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:53,120 - I'm just curious to see if it... 54 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:56,270 There's a heating element in that ceramic coil. 55 00:03:56,270 --> 00:03:58,000 - [Kerry] But there the problem is you gotta stand there 56 00:03:58,000 --> 00:03:58,780 with that. 57 00:03:58,780 --> 00:04:01,945 - I can get a chair. (Kerry and fabricator laugh) 58 00:04:01,945 --> 00:04:02,780 - [Kerry] See, that's just as bad. 59 00:04:02,780 --> 00:04:04,120 - It might be hard to see, 60 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:08,360 but the original concept was done with a colored pencil. 61 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:12,520 The colors we selected from that palette translated well 62 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:16,400 into kind of what becomes a living piece of art 63 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:21,600 that changes every day with the sun and the clouds. 64 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,600 So trying to translate all these different variables 65 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,120 was the most challenging part for me 66 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,600 but also the most gratifying. 67 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,080 (gentle music) 68 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:35,760 - I chose to use a group 69 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:39,000 of anonymous individuals 70 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:43,560 because I think we tend to make celebrities the focal point 71 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:47,640 of any kind of achievement, when for the most part, 72 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:51,920 almost all the achievements we experience 73 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:56,560 are the work of vast numbers 74 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:00,040 of anonymous and unidentified people 75 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:08,288 who put in the work on a day-to-day basis. 76 00:05:08,288 --> 00:05:08,320 (pensive music) (traffic honking) 77 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,760 I was born in 1955. 78 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,720 I was alive to experience the assassination 79 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,160 of the president of the United States, 80 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,640 which, for an eight-year-old, 81 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:23,800 was a shocking occurrence. 82 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:25,400 Two years after that, 83 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,880 we were in the middle of the Watts riots. 84 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,120 By 1968, 85 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,400 I was a witness to the shootouts 86 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,480 between the LA Police Department 87 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,320 and the Black Panther Party. (chopper blades humming) 88 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,680 The Vietnam War was raging. 89 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,120 Martin Luther King Jr. was killed. 90 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,360 Malcolm X was killed. 91 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,080 So you talk about volatility, 92 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:54,720 I'm conditioned by that kind of volatility, 93 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,160 and that's just the political volatility. 94 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:00,320 That's not to mention the kind of neighborhood challenges 95 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,640 that you have to negotiate 96 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:06,240 in order to make it from one day to the next. 97 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:10,000 All those things contribute to a perception 98 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:13,400 of how you move through the world, 99 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:20,621 survive in the world, and what your expectations can be. 100 00:06:20,621 --> 00:06:20,640 (slow solemn music) 101 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:24,760 That's the backdrop against which I as an artist 102 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:28,560 have to conceptualize the imagery I'm gonna produce 103 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:43,251 and the value I think it will have for the culture. 104 00:06:43,251 --> 00:06:47,840 (slow solemn music continues) They read beautifully. 105 00:06:47,840 --> 00:06:54,260 - It is cool when you walk up the aisle, and you watch it, 106 00:06:54,260 --> 00:06:55,920 and it's a different light coming out 107 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:57,380 of this bay than all the others. 108 00:06:57,380 --> 00:06:58,440 - Yeah, well, they're different. 109 00:06:58,440 --> 00:06:59,400 I mean, if you... 110 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,360 I mean they're not anywhere near as fragmented 111 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:07,000 as most of the other images in all the other windows. 112 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:11,040 They present themselves with a clarity. 113 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:16,400 It does what I wanted it to do. (laughs) 114 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,960 Formally, the movement from the bottom 115 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,680 to the top is really important 116 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:27,040 because it's like down here on the ground in the crucible 117 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,800 where all of these sort of needs 118 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:33,480 and desires are fought for 119 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,360 is where the heat is always generated. 120 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:40,040 And as we achieve more of the kinds 121 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:45,120 of ideal conditions we look for, 122 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:50,320 it requires less of that kind of energy and agitation. 123 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,080 Although in the upper part, 124 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:57,680 there's a kind of oscillating back-and-forth dynamic 125 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:01,320 between the colors and the whiteness 126 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,200 of some of the glass shapes 127 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,480 so that even in that upper part 128 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:10,120 that seems chromatically more tranquil, 129 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,320 there's still an incredible amount of energy 130 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:15,120 and back and forth going on. 131 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:16,560 I wanted that too, 132 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:27,377 that achievement doesn't necessarily mean complacency. 133 00:08:27,377 --> 00:08:28,800 (gentle haunting music) If you look at history, 134 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,880 the success that the United States enjoys is accompanied 135 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,440 by a legacy of brutality, 136 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:39,200 not just here in the United States, but all over the place. 137 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,280 Out of the crucible of all of that violence, 138 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:46,000 all the warfare, all the colonial impositions, 139 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,120 out of the crucible of all of that, 140 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:53,080 we got a chance to live. 141 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:58,120 And the chance to live that we got makes us obligated 142 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:02,680 to do whatever we can to guarantee that those processes 143 00:09:02,680 --> 00:09:06,080 that were played out before we arrived 144 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,360 are not repeated in the same way 145 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:13,600 from the moment we are here on. 146 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:17,126 That's what the replacement of those windows means. 147 00:09:21,505 --> 00:09:34,418 (solemn music) 148 00:09:34,418 --> 00:09:44,049 (solemn music continues) (solemn music fading) 149 00:09:50,778 --> 00:09:52,720 Hi, my name is Julie Mehretu. 150 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:59,120 And I was really blessed to be featured by Art21 in 2009. 151 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:01,600 Susan Sollins was directing at the time, 152 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,120 and I was really fortunate enough to have met her. 153 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,440 What an incredible person to  have started such a project. 154 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:11,960 And the archive of films of  artists' practice in the depth of 155 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:16,360 research that has gone into the  archive of Art21 is incredible. 156 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,720 It's an immense resource for any young artist 157 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:22,520 and any practicing artist who wants to look into 158 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,560 all these various practices and forms of making. 159 00:10:25,560 --> 00:10:27,080 I grew up in the Midwest, 160 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:28,520 and I know more than, 161 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:34,440 as does anyone coming from cities that are not either New York or Los Angeles 162 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:38,440 that are not these primal coastal art centers, 163 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:43,120 the value of the smaller museums and collections. 164 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,440 And when I grew up, you didn't have the MCA in Chicago, 165 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:50,160 you didn't have MOCAD in Detroit, you didn't have an art center in Grand Rapids. 166 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:54,160 There really was nothing outside of the DIA and the Art Institute. 167 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:56,840 And these were encyclopedic type of museums. 168 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:02,560 And now, yes, you have many more of these contemporary art museums all over this country, 169 00:11:02,560 --> 00:11:07,840 but many students still don't have access to the form of education and the form of practice 170 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:09,640 that this archive offers. 171 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:13,360 And that's what I think is one of the richest aspects of this, 172 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:20,040 is the kind of depth of education and access you can have into these various practices. 173 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,520 And that's only going to  move the whole field forward. 174 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:24,400 So thank you, Art21. 175 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:30,000 Thank you Susan Sollins for an incredible vision in having commenced this incredible project, 176 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,840 and I hope that you'll consider to support this immense project. 177 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,612 Thank you so much.